HI: I recently found an obit. on my 2nd great uncle and was surprised to learn that he died in the State Penitentary in Syracuse in 1895. He been running a counterfeiting plant in his home in Canastota, Oneida Co., NY. Does anyone know how I would go about finding more information on him? I believe he might have been sent to the pentitentary in 1892. Can I get copies of his trial records and would the penitentary have records that I might obtain copies of? Debbie

Hi I am still researching these lines, Mott, Brower, Shear, Billings, Ufford, Harger, Campbell and related lines. I have a great deal of information to share and would love to talk with anyone researching these families. We are talking primarily 1800's and early 1900's. Debbie

In a message dated 11/20/2003 5:03:45 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I thought to send this for anyone who may have ancestors in the 117th NY Vol, and not aware that Enlistment and Declaration of Intent papers are accessible and printable online at the Hamilton College, Clinton, NY website. They also have reunion booklets, letters from a soldier, Journal, and more. Its wonderful to have a copy of them, which also list some physical features like height and the guardians name if the soldier was under age. Below is the main page and direct link. Laura http://clrc.org/digital/digindex.shtml http://library.hamilton.edu/collections/civil_war/go.php?scrid=117th I had no problem with the two sites...highlighted and then cut/paste and got right into the info. It is well presented in various manners, by place of birth, place of enlistment, occupation; although I did not find all four of the Herrnecker brothers, due to creative spelling and such, did find enlistment of Phillip Hinniger...one of the multiple spellings on his pay records from the 117th. Marion in AZ

Thanks for the notes about Kernan Farm. Is Kernan the name of a family who once lived at the farm ? Mark

Does anyone know what or where the Kernan farm in Whitesboro is ? Reference: Kate (Catharine Fitzsimons - d/o Thomas and Catharine O'Neil Fitzsimon's ) married James Doyle and lived on the Kernan farm at Whitesboro, NY He died around 1898 and she moved to Utica but soon died of pneumonia in Jan. 1899. Children Jim and Nellie (Helen - married Frank Lawson) Mark

Try this for the main link if the one with ".shtml" at the end didn't work: Sally http://clrc.org/digital/digindex.htm --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Laura Perkins <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:51:16 -0500 Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] 117th NYVol Inf. Enlistment papers Message-ID: <[email protected]> I thought to send this for anyone who may have ancestors in the 117th NY Vol, and not aware that Enlistment and Declaration of Intent papers are accessible and printable online at the Hamilton College, Clinton, NY website. They also have reunion booklets, letters from a soldier, Journal, and more. Its wonderful to have a copy of them, which also list some physical features like height and the guardians name if the soldier was under age. Below is the main page and direct link. Laura http://clrc.org/digital/digindex.shtml http://library.hamilton.edu/collections/civil_war/go.php?scrid=117th

It worked fine for me and I was able to find papers for a relative. Thanks. G. M. Freeman Vincit Qui Se Vincit Laura wrote in part: I thought to send this for anyone who may have ancestors in the 117th NY Vol, and not aware that Enlistment and Declaration of Intent papers are accessible and printable online at the Hamilton College, Clinton, NY website. ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Sorry list. Laura's e-mail did not work. Hi Laura, I never asked you if you were related to my Perkins. I am editor on the Herkimer site. I sent for my file on Silas Perkins with the 117th who enlisted in Augusta, NY in 1853 (I would have to look up exact date.) Silas is related to two different Perkins who I believe are unrelated. Silas married Mary Perkins so that her name became Mary Perkins Perkins. Later after the Civil War, Silas and family lived in Brookfield area. I have a picture of him - but not in uniform. Any of this familiar to you. Betsy Perkins-Voorhees Herkimer

I thought to send this for anyone who may have ancestors in the 117th NY Vol, and not aware that Enlistment and Declaration of Intent papers are accessible and printable online at the Hamilton College, Clinton, NY website. They also have reunion booklets, letters from a soldier, Journal, and more. Its wonderful to have a copy of them, which also list some physical features like height and the guardians name if the soldier was under age. Below is the main page and direct link. Laura http://clrc.org/digital/digindex.shtml http://library.hamilton.edu/collections/civil_war/go.php?scrid=117th

Hello List: Are there records relating to school teachers in New Hartford that anyone can access or that you could direct me to.? Mary Fitzsimons, age 26 can be found in the 1870 census for New Hartford (dwelling 610) TEACHING SCHOOL. Mary went on eventually to to marry John Butler (Florence) and move to MO. (She was his 4th wife) Might there be any other records relating to her employment as a teacher - such as where she taught - when she started - where she was trained etc... ? Also her father Thomas Fitzsimons age 62 Farmer is head of household living with her and her step mother Catharine age 57. Catharine may have been married to a Barry before Thomas Fitzsimons (though she is marked in some census as his first wife) Patrick Barry is living with Thomas as the step son before his death in the Civil War. I also am wondering if Thomas died in New Hartford ? I can't find him on a cemetery list on the Oneida Caounty NY Genweb site. How complete is that ? This 1870 census is the last time that I can positively identify him in any census. They were Catholic I believe. As a reference for anyone with these names - Thomas' first wife, ( Mary's mother ), was Catharine O'Neil Fitzsimons who is buried at the Irish Settlement Cemetery in Newport, Herkimer County. Died 1848 age 36 (born in Ireland) I believe that Catharine is the sister of Mary O'Neil Dillon w/o Patrick Dillon. Their parents were Perry and Catherine (Casey or Lasey) O'Neil of Ireland. THANKS, Mark Brown [email protected] 1870 New Hartford, Oneida County, NY (Dwelling 610) Thomas Fitzsimons 62 Farmer Ireland Catharine 57 Keeping House Ireland Mary 26 Teaching School New York

I am seeking more information regarding an Ezra TYREL\TERRILL. He was the son of Samuel Tyrel of Hebron, Washington Co., New York. Ezra was born in Hebron, July 16, 1782, and resided there all of his life until he moved to Whitestown around 1820. He resided there until he died sometime around 1840-1842. His wife was Lois HASKINS, (very probably) the daughter of Abraham HASKINS of Westmoreland. Ezra & Lois were married in Hebron around 1810. They had a daughter, Julia Ann TYREL, who had a child, Anna Marie BATES in 1835 in Whitestown. I have been unable to find any information regarding Julia Ann's husband at all. I have almost exhausted all means on finding him, if he exists at all. There is evidence that Anna Marie was born out of wedlock... If anyone would have information regarding any part of this family and would share, it would be greatly appreciated! Michael Seamans

I am seeking information on Abraham HASKINS, born in Litchfield, Connecticut, September 20, 1755. From the information that I have, he married a Hannah STOCKWELL and then a Lois WEBB. He resided in Egremont, Massachusetts for a period of time in the 1780-1790s timeperiod before moving to Hebron, Washington Co., New York. He resided there until around 1818-1820, where he moved to Westmoreland, Oneida Co., New York. He died there March 4, 1826. I am seeking more information regarding this ancestor, specifically I am trying to confirm who his spouse(s) were and trying to get solid link between him and his daughter, Lois Haskins, who was born in 1791, probably in Egremont, Mass. If anyone has information on this person & would share, I would be most grateful! Michael Seamans

Thank You for posting that web site for Le Raysville. I found out something about another family member. They owned property there. Thanks again

Am willing to do Chicago IL Tribune obit lookups in trade for obit lookups that I need. I need obit lookups for the following Stanford, Edwin Thomas d) 02/28/1899 in NY-Annsville, Omeida Co Stanford, Amanda Josephine d) 02/13/1854 in NY-Annsville, Oneida Co Stanford, Cyrus E d) 02/02/1845 in NY-Annsville, Oneida Co Stanford, Dency M d) 04/26/1892 in NY-Annsville, Oneida Co Stanford, Eunice Morton d) 05/17/1847 in NY-Annsville, Oneida Co Stanford, Franklin d) 04/02/1877 in NY-Annsville, Oneida Co Stanford, Hiram d) 02/16/1893 in NY-Annsville, Oneida Co Stanford, Jonathan d) 02/02/1845 in NY-Annsville, Oneida Co Stanford, Mary Stone d) 05/09/1875 in NY-Annsville, Oneida Co Stanford, Minerva Louisa d) 03/04/1862 in NY-Annsville, Oneida Co Bowen, Deborah Montague d) Abt. 04/1865 in NY-Camden, Oneida Co Bull, Marcia West d) 12/25/1856 in NY-Camden, Oneida Co Munson, Levi d) Abt. 1815 in NY-Camden, Oneida Co Munson, Mary Cooley d) Abt. 1829 in NY-Camden, Oneida Co Stanford, Jonathan d) 12/18/1888 in NY-Camden, Oneida Co Stanford, Lusena Hannay d) 8/10/1914 in NY-Camden, Oneida Co Cooley, Elias d) 12/31/1864 in NY-Hanover, Oneida Co Cooley, Sarah d) 04/19/1842 in NY-Hanover, Oneida Co Cooley, Sarah Alden d) 03/15/1848 in NY-Hanover, Oneida Co Montague, Deborah Fay d) Abt. 07/1845 in NY-New Hartford, Oneida Co Montague, Eleanor Minor d) 03/18/1839 in NY-New Hartford, Oneida Co Montague, Mary Eleanor d) 11/20/1882 in NY-New Hartford, Oneida Co Montague, Ruth Lucas d) 08/13/1813 in NY-New Hartford, Oneida Co Montague, Uriel d) Abt. 06/1812 in NY-New Hartford, Oneida Co Parkhurst, Usual d) 10/9/1930 in NY-Oneida Co Dryer, Charles Henry d) 10/8/1937 in NY-Rome. Oneida Co, City Hospital Cooley, Alexander d) 07/06/1837 in NY-Utica, Oneida Co Parkhurst, Philura Wilcox d) 1/8/1917 in NY-Utica, Oneida Co Scranton, Lyman d) Abt. 10/1869 in NY-Utica, Oneida Co Stanford, Francis Benjamin d) 6/21/1910 in NY-Westmorland, Oneida Co Eames, Joseph d) Abt. 1788 in NY-Whitestown, Oneida Co Johnson, Eunice Cooley d) 09/01/1819 in NY-Whitestown, Oneida Co PLEASE EMAIL ME PRIVATELY AT [email protected] Jim Dlask 4538 N Avers Chicago IL 60625

----- Original Message ----- From: "ElizabethAnn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 6:13 AM Subject: [NYJEFFER] New 1941 Map LaRaysville NY > During the expansion of Fort Drum, New York in the > early 1940's numerous properties were acquired by the > government. This expansion resulted in the loss of the > villages: LeRaysville, Sterlingville, and Woods Mills. > This is the first of 3 maps that will depict those > "lost villages" as they existed in 1941. > > Click on the map to see it full size. Please be > patient as this map is rather large. Also if you click > on a numbered circle on the full map, you will see the > property owner as listed in the 1941 Tax Rolls. > > http://www.nnygenealogy.com/FortDrum/leraysvilleMain.htm > [email protected] > > > ===== > Rejoyce in the Lord > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

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Source is 'Utica Daily Press' Mon. morning 8 Sept. 1919: "TRENTON VETERAN IS DEAD John Hughes Was One of Foremost Citizens of Town SERVED AS VILLAGE PRESIDENT End Comes After Brief Illness-Was Native of Wales, but Came to America When 14 Years Old-Served in Civil War-Was Interested in Civic and Fraternal Affairs in Village and Town photograph Trenton Veteran Whose Death Occurred After Brief Illness Barneveld, Sept. 7-At his home here yesterday occurred the death of John Hughes, at the age of 84 years, one of the oldest and most respected citizens of Trenton. He had been ill only a short time. John HUGHES was born in Anglesea, North Wales, in December, 1824. When he was 14 years old he came to America on a sailing vessel which required six weeks to make the trip. After working in New York City one summer went to Trenton. Here he worked for Addison Fuller and learned the trade of a carriage painter. He worked with Mr. Fuller quite a number of years and in 1860 succeeded him in business. For nearly 50 years he worked at carriage marking, at which he was an expert. With the exception of a time that he was in the army, Mr. Hughes had conducted this business every since in the old shop of his former employer. Early in 1862 Mr. Hughes enlisted in the One Hundred and Seventeenth Regiment, for three years, being a member of Company F. under Capt. Steves. He served with the regiment for over a year, taking part in a number of battles. He then became sick of fever and was transferred to the Veteran Reserve Corps for the Ninth Regiment. In this he served as corporal and the regiment did guard duty in and about Washington. He was mustered out at Washington June 19, 1865, a few days after the One Hundred and Seventeenth was mustered out. Mr. Hughes was a member of Post Thomas, No. 39, G. A. R., in which he served longest as chaplain and in which he had held every office but that of commander. He was a member of the Oneida County Veterans' Association. In 1868 Mr. Hughes was made a Mason in Remsen Lodge, No. 677, F. & A.M. In this he had served as warden, junior deacon and master of ceremonies. He was one of the directors of the Trenton Library Association and sold the plot of ground on which the library stands. In politics he was Republican nd served as President of the village in 1885, 1886 and again in 1897. He was one of the school trustees in Trenton for many years. Mr. Hughes attended the Unitarian Church. He was a very industrious man, well known and highly esteemed in the community in which most of his life had been spent. In 1858 he married Emma [Susan] JONES of Trenton, who died a few years ago. His children are Edwin of Trenton, Frank R. of Chicago, George of Syracuse, Charles S., who is an architect in Auburn, and Jennie, wife of H.E. McINTOSH of Trenton. The funeral will be held privately at the house Tuesday at 2:30 o'clock. Short Masonic service at the grave." He is my 2nd great grandfather. THANKS :-) to hammer for this lookup. Jan Hughes Jordan in VT

Today it is time to show up at a local Veterans Memorial Event in your community. It is more important today to show we care to Vets & our troops who may live to become VETS> Pleas get connected to these Men & Women who give so much of themselves for us. Go to a ceremony and personally say thank you with a hand shake. Jim Hartigan Camillus, NY

There is index fiche for BMD in Syracuse's Local History room. Jim Hartigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Crego" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:40 PM Subject: RE: [NYONEIDA-L] Birth certs in Utica churches > David, > > You can get a copy of the original birth certificate (not a copy from > Utica's register)from the NY State if you meet their requirements: > > See website at > http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/vr/forms/genealogy.htm > > They say they will issue the certificate if it is 75 years old and the > person is deceased. > > You can also look up the birth in the NY State Vital Records Index in > NYC, Albany, Rochester and perhaps elsewhere. This isn't as complete as > the certificate, but will give you name, date and birthplace. I've > found it very accurate when I've compared it to the actual certificates. > Also if you are not quite sure the birth occurred in Utica, the index > will tell you if the event really occurred in New Hartford or some other > neighboring town. > > Regarding church records, they do not contain birth records, but usually > have baptismal records. Depending on the denomination and time period, > some baptismal records do contain birth date as well as baptismal date. > When requesting certificates from the church, be sure to ask for all > information included on the original register. Otherwise, you may get > only the baptismal date. > > Hope this helps. > > Roy > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Critchley [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:00 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] Birth certs in Utica churches > > > I am researching a family in Utica and need a copy of > a birth certificate for 1919. Since the clerk's > office in Utica makes it so hard for people to obtain > birth certificates, unless you can prove to their > satisfaction that you are related to the person, is an > alternative approach of writing directly to the > churches in Utica feasible? Presumably, they will > have copies of birth certificates as well, and may not > impose such tight conditions on people seeing their > own records as does the city authorities in Utica. > Any thoughts on this? Thanks. > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > Contact the List Manager at [email protected] > Oneida Co Surname page > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html > List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html > Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/ > > > > > > ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== > Contact the List Manager at [email protected] > For List Rules visit http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/1006 click on Mailing List > Visit the Oneida County Mailing List Surname Page at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/1006/oneida.html > Visit the Oneida Co NYGenWeb Page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida >

My name is Renné Harrington Shoultes Blocker. My great grandmother was Clarissa Julette DAVIS. I have seen her name on censuses as Clarissa. I have seen her name in family obituaries as Clara. Her headstone lists her name as Clarice. Clarissa, aka, Clara, Clarice DAVIS, was born 1864 in Sangerfield, OneidaCounty, N.Y. and she died May 30, 1917 in Ogdensburg, N.Y. She married Horace G. LATHROP around 1878-1879. I find Clarissa and Horace in an 1880 census of Champion, Jefferson County, N.Y. They have a one year old daughter, Eva ,in this census which is why I surmise they married btwn 1878-79. Shortly after the 1880 census they moved to Oberlin, Kansas. I believe their son Milton was born there in 1881. Clarissa had Walter LATHROP there in 1887 and a daughter Florence who was born Dec.16,1889 in Oberlin, Ks. There last son, Clayton LATHROP was born back in N.Y in 1896 so the LATHROPS were probably only in Kansas for maybe 10-15 yrs. To recap: Clarissa had 5 children: Eva, Milton, Walter, Florence, Clayton. I know virtually nothing about Clarissa DAVIS'S family such as her parents or siblings. I would be grateful for any information anybody can supply me. Thank you in advance. Renné ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!