Sandy, 1870 found them under Colk.... COLK, STEPHEN (1870 U.S. Census) New York , ONEIDA, 3-WD ROME, Age 43, Male, Race: White, Born: VT Series: M593 Roll: 1059 Page: 582 Stephen, 43 farmer, per est 800, born VT Lucinda, 47 keeping house, NY Elizabeth, 20 at home NY Asa, 15 at home NY George, 13 at home NY Charles, 8 at home NY Thomas McGill, 26, farm laborer Canada, his parents were of foreign birth Interesting, while searching for Stephen, came upon a 74 year old Lucinda Cook, in Oneida, town of August, born MA. living with a George Allen (Lawyer) family. No relationship was given. Jennifer In a message dated 6/30/2004 9:07:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Looking for informaton on Stephen Cook b 5/27/1827 d 4/5/1899 buried Lowell Cemetery, Westmoreland, NY. He married Lucinda ? b 7/12/1822 d 12/31/1898. They lived in Vernon, NY in 1880 census and had a son Aca S b 1855 and a son Joseph M b 1859 d 3/11/1861. Any information would help, thank you. Sandy

Sandy, Here they are in the 1860, a few more children..... COOK, STEPHEN (1860 U.S. Census) New York , ONEIDA, VERNON, Age 35, Male, Race: White, Born: MA Series: M653 Roll: 824 Page: 698 Stephen, 35, Farmer, real est 1000, pers est 300, born MA Lucinda, 37 born NY Lucinda E., 10 NY Israel, 9 NY Harriett, 7 NY Stephen A., 5 NY George C., 3 NY Joseph M., 8/12 NY Jennifer In a message dated 6/30/2004 9:07:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Looking for informaton on Stephen Cook b 5/27/1827 d 4/5/1899 buried Lowell Cemetery, Westmoreland, NY. He married Lucinda ? b 7/12/1822 d 12/31/1898. They lived in Vernon, NY in 1880 census and had a son Aca S b 1855 and a son Joseph M b 1859 d 3/11/1861. Any information would help, thank you. Sandy

Looking for informaton on Stephen Cook b 5/27/1827 d 4/5/1899 buried Lowell Cemetery, Westmoreland, NY. He married Lucinda ? b 7/12/1822 d 12/31/1898. They lived in Vernon, NY in 1880 census and had a son Aca S b 1855 and a son Joseph M b 1859 d 3/11/1861. Any information would help, thank you. Sandy _________________________________________________________________ MSN 9 Dial-up Internet Access fights spam and pop-ups – now 3 months FREE! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/

Susan, Found a William Stillman in 1790 CT census Wethersfield. There are Robbins on it as well. But again, it only gives name of head of household and how many living in house by age. If you think this would be helpful, please let us know. Also found a W. Stillman in Oneida cnty in 1810. Jennifer In a message dated 6/29/2004 11:19:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: One problem is that there is a need to establish the link between Josiah born 9/16/1739 in Wethersfield, CT, married I think in CT in 1762-63 and died 5/13/1809 in Westmoreland or Whitestown, NY and his son William. Westmoreland and Whitestown are in Oneida Co, NY. William I believe was born in 1777 in Wethersfield, CT, married Betsy and then Sarah Stebbins (mother of my g-g-g-grandmother Betsy Elizabeth Stillman Stafford) in Deansboro, NY and died in Kirklan, Oneida Co, NY. Josiahs wife was Comfort Robbins. She was born 2/16/1738 in Wwethersfield, CT and died 2/21/1804 in Westmoreland, Oneida Co, NY.

Susan, Don't know if this will help .... seems like the ages may fit.. According to the 1800 Census, Josiah Stillman was living in "Westmoreland Town of Oneida County New York" He was the head of Household. In his household were 2 free white males aged 16-26 William would be ca. 23 in 1800 1 free white male aged 45 and over Josiah would be ca. 61 1 free white female aged 10-16 1 free white female aged 45 and over. Comfort would be ca. 62 no slaves Index information: STILLMAN, JOSIAH (1800 U.S. Census) New York , ONEIDA, NO TWP LISTED, Series: M32 Roll: 23 Page: 179 These were the only two entries that my search came up with for all of US Years 1790-1820 and 1860-1930. I use Heritage Quest to access the Federal Census records. You may want to re post specifically to have someone with Ancestry.com or Genealogy.com to see if they can access William in the 1830-1850 (HQ d/n have those years indexed, although I can view them given the page numbers, etc. ). STILLMAN JOSIAH NY ONEIDA NO TWP LISTED 1800 STILLMAN JOSIAH 35 M W NJ NJ BURLINGTON BEVERLY 1860 I will attach the 1800 image, so you can see. It's a beautiful nice image, he is the first one listed and it clearly states where he was living in 1800. Even if DAR won't accept census information, you'll have the image for your records. Perhps you could try contacting Westmoreland Town hall to get a start on where to find land records, or the Oneida County Historical Society? [email protected] If I find anything else on William, I'll let you know. Jennifer In a message dated 6/29/2004 11:19:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: 6/29/2004 Dear Fellow Group Members, I would like please your assistance, opinions, etc about questions I have about my ancestors Josiah Stillman and William Stillman. Here is my quandray: I am attempting to put Josiah Stillman, an ancestor of mine, into the Daughters of the American Revolution. I have found out that they will not accept as adequate proof the book, The Stillman Family compiled by Francis D. Stillman, Jr. in 1969 because it either does not have sources with it or the copy I gave them did not have sources with it. The book is about George Stillman and his descendants. One problem is that there is a need to establish the link between Josiah born 9/16/1739 in Wethersfield, CT, married I think in CT in 1762-63 and died 5/13/1809 in Westmoreland or Whitestown, NY and his son William. Westmoreland and Whitestown are in Oneida Co, NY. William I believe was born in 1777 in Wethersfield, CT, married Betsy and then Sarah Stebbins (mother of my g-g-g-grandmother Betsy Elizabeth Stillman Stafford) in Deansboro, NY and died in Kirklan, Oneida Co, NY. Josiahs wife was Comfort Robbins. She was born 2/16/1738 in Wwethersfield, CT and died 2/21/1804 in Westmoreland, Oneida Co, NY. My otherproblem is that the DAR would like residency proof of Josiah when he served in the Revolutionary War. I have him living in Sandisfield, Mass, Westmoreland and Whitestown, NY but no years for these locations. DAR will not accept his war record as proof of residency. It says in Josiahs war record this: 1st Lieutenant Capt Elijah Deming's 11th Co(North Co in Sandisfield), 1st Berkshire Co Regt of Mass. militia; list of officers chosen by the several companies in said regiment as returned by Mark Hopkins and others, field officers, dated Great Barrington, March 26, 1776, as ordered in Council May 6, 1776, that said officers be commissioned, reported commissioned May 6, 1776, also Lieutenant, Capt Samuel Wolcotts Co, Col. Hopkins Regt services between 7/16/1776 and 85/1776 16 days; Company marched to Highlands, NY; roll sworn to in Berkshire Co. also Lieutenant Capt Elijah Deming's Co, Col Ashleys(Berkshire Co) Regt entered service 7/8/1777, discharged 7/21/1777, service 14 days, Company called out at the request of Maj Gen Schuyler and ordered to march to Fport Edward. It is my desire to address these questions posed by the DAR and I would like your help and advise in doing so. It is my thought to try and obtain a will for Josiah Stillman which might mention his son William but have no idea about obtaining land records to prove his residency. Am not sure if census records would be of use either. Thank you for your help. I apologize for the long e-mail. Hope to hear from you. Susan DeHart ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== Contact the List Manager at [email protected] Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/

I have a group photo of the "Blue Bell Operators" NY Telephone Co. in Utica. It was a female basketball team of enployees around 1918-1920. My aunt, Sylva Roberts, has written these names on the back: M. FRANCISCO, R. SNELL, K. FLYNN, C. MYERS, S. LERCH, M. REISBERG. If you are a relative of any of the above and would like a copy, I would be happy to send it to you. Corinne Anderson <[email protected]>

6/29/2004 Dear Fellow Group Members, I would like please your assistance, opinions, etc about questions I have about my ancestors Josiah Stillman and William Stillman. Here is my quandray: I am attempting to put Josiah Stillman, an ancestor of mine, into the Daughters of the American Revolution. I have found out that they will not accept as adequate proof the book, The Stillman Family compiled by Francis D. Stillman, Jr. in 1969 because it either does not have sources with it or the copy I gave them did not have sources with it. The book is about George Stillman and his descendants. One problem is that there is a need to establish the link between Josiah born 9/16/1739 in Wethersfield, CT, married I think in CT in 1762-63 and died 5/13/1809 in Westmoreland or Whitestown, NY and his son William. Westmoreland and Whitestown are in Oneida Co, NY. William I believe was born in 1777 in Wethersfield, CT, married Betsy and then Sarah Stebbins (mother of my g-g-g-grandmother Betsy Elizabeth Stillman Stafford) in Deansboro, NY and died in Kirklan, Oneida Co, NY. Josiahs wife was Comfort Robbins. She was born 2/16/1738 in Wwethersfield, CT and died 2/21/1804 in Westmoreland, Oneida Co, NY. My otherproblem is that the DAR would like residency proof of Josiah when he served in the Revolutionary War. I have him living in Sandisfield, Mass, Westmoreland and Whitestown, NY but no years for these locations. DAR will not accept his war record as proof of residency. It says in Josiahs war record this: 1st Lieutenant Capt Elijah Deming's 11th Co(North Co in Sandisfield), 1st Berkshire Co Regt of Mass. militia; list of officers chosen by the several companies in said regiment as returned by Mark Hopkins and others, field officers, dated Great Barrington, March 26, 1776, as ordered in Council May 6, 1776, that said officers be commissioned, reported commissioned May 6, 1776, also Lieutenant, Capt Samuel Wolcotts Co, Col. Hopkins Regt services between 7/16/1776 and 85/1776 16 days; Company marched to Highlands, NY; roll sworn to in Berkshire Co. also Lieutenant Capt Elijah Deming's Co, Col Ashleys(Berkshire Co) Regt entered service 7/8/1777, discharged 7/21/1777, service 14 days, Company called out at the request of Maj Gen Schuyler and ordered to march to Fport Edward. It is my desire to address these questions posed by the DAR and I would like your help and advise in doing so. It is my thought to try and obtain a will for Josiah Stillman which might mention his son William but have no idea about obtaining land records to prove his residency. Am not sure if census records would be of use either. Thank you for your help. I apologize for the long e-mail. Hope to hear from you. Susan DeHart

Found this in the 1870. DECKER, JOHN P (1870 U.S. Census) New York , ONEIDA, DEERFIELD, Age 26, Male, Race: White, Born: FRAN Series: M593 Roll: 1058 Page: 196 Only found son John in Deerfield John 26 Tailor born France Mary 25 Keeping House born NY both had parents of foreign birth. will send image separately. Jennifer In a message dated 6/29/2004 7:04:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I am looking for a DECKER family from the Deerfield, Oneida NY area c. 1850-80. Particularly the family Of Jean Pierre and Mary DECKER . Could someone please tell me which Catholic church would have been in the Deerfield Oneida NY area from about 1855-1890. I found a Mary Decker living with a John Schilz ( her son in law) family in the 1880 NY Deerfield , Oneida NY census. I have located the DECKER family in the 1850 Oneida Deerfield NY census also. My great great grandmother was Isabella Decker Schlegel (1832- 1882) of Erie CO. Lancaster NY and I have reason to believe that this is her. She married Joseph Schlegel in abt. 1855 . Thank you . _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== Contact the List Manager at [email protected] Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/

The 1860 shows them in Deerfield. However the enumerator must have been in a rush, only used initials. DECKER, J (1860 U.S. Census) New York , ONEIDA, DEERFIELD, Age 51, Male, Race: White, Born: FRAN Series: M653 Roll: 826 Page: 449 J. Decker 51Tailor 800/200 estates born FRAnce M.D. 47 FRA A D 21 Tailores FRA JD 16 Tailor FRA DD 14 FRA MD 9 NY MD 12 NY MD 8 NY MD 6 NY I've attached the image and will look in the 1870. Jennifer In a message dated 6/29/2004 7:04:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I am looking for a DECKER family from the Deerfield, Oneida NY area c. 1850-80. Particularly the family Of Jean Pierre and Mary DECKER . Could someone please tell me which Catholic church would have been in the Deerfield Oneida NY area from about 1855-1890. I found a Mary Decker living with a John Schilz ( her son in law) family in the 1880 NY Deerfield , Oneida NY census. I have located the DECKER family in the 1850 Oneida Deerfield NY census also. My great great grandmother was Isabella Decker Schlegel (1832- 1882) of Erie CO. Lancaster NY and I have reason to believe that this is her. She married Joseph Schlegel in abt. 1855 . Thank you . _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== Contact the List Manager at [email protected] Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/

I am looking for a DECKER family from the Deerfield, Oneida NY area c. 1850-80. Particularly the family Of Jean Pierre and Mary DECKER . Could someone please tell me which Catholic church would have been in the Deerfield Oneida NY area from about 1855-1890. I found a Mary Decker living with a John Schilz ( her son in law) family in the 1880 NY Deerfield , Oneida NY census. I have located the DECKER family in the 1850 Oneida Deerfield NY census also. My great great grandmother was Isabella Decker Schlegel (1832- 1882) of Erie CO. Lancaster NY and I have reason to believe that this is her. She married Joseph Schlegel in abt. 1855 . Thank you . _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

I am trying to find the death of a Thomas Dennison that lived in or around the Utica area in the 1930 . talk in the family is that Thomas died in 1936 but no one knows when . I do know he was born in 1868 in Illinios. He lived in MA for a while with his family . He and his family moved to NY around 1915 . He is list with his wife Delia Brousseau Dennison in the 1920 Census with 3 of their children and one grandson Thomas J. Orr . In the late 1920 early 30's Thomas left his wife I can't find him in teh 1930 Census . But in Delia Dennison's obit it says Thomas died in 1936 . I was hoping someone in the Utica area could help me find the day he died and where he is buried . any information is appreciated . Tee Hadley NY

Looking for the details of the birth registration of IRVING C WILLIAMS - born in Steuben on 28th February, 1863.

Treaties With Oneida Indians This page might fill in some information on the treaties. Janice

Cora, The below site has history on the Brotherton Reservation in Burlington Co., NJ. Perhaps Jonathan continued to look after their affairs when they moved north to NY State. http://www.southjerseynews.com/issues/july/m070403k.htm Brotherton seems to have been created by New Jersey. Have you tried contacting the NJ State Archives in Trenton? Roy -----Original Message----- From: Cora L McDonnell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 10:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYONEIDA-L] Oneida Bible Society and Oneida Indians Dear List, My mother-in-law had an old Bible which belonged to her ggggrandfather Jonathan C. JOHNSTON. Printed in 1819, Jonathan wrote inside the cover, "Jonathan Johnston, his book the gift of the Oneida Bible Society 1820." It is a small (4 in by 7 in) leather bound Bible with the initials "O.B.S." stamped into the front cover. He also listed the names/birth dates of himself, his wife (Nancy) and their nine children. Jonathan and Nancy are buried in the Hastings Cemetery, Oswego County, NY. From 1850 census records, the family must have moved to Oswego County about 1835. Jonathan was born in New Jersey (wish I knew what county), and Nancy was born in Schohaire County, NY. Can anyone tell me where to find information about the Oneida Bible Society? Did the Society do missionary work among the Indians tribes living in Oneida County? I have reason to believe that Jonathan was an Indian agent in Oneida County during the 1820s. An old 1938 Syracuse newspaper clipping, that my mother-in-law had saved, showed a photo of an old man, her uncle Thomas ROBINSON, looking at Indian Treaties which belonged to his grandfather Jonathan C. JOHNSTON. The article told the following about Johnston: "...Jonathan Johnston, who in 1822 was a government Indian agent in New Jersey. Most interesting of the documents is a copy of a treaty drawn in Green Bay, Mich., between Indians living in that region and clans of the Oneida, Stockbridge, St. Regis and Tuscarora Indians of New York State. The treaty was drawn in 1822 while Robertson's copy was made and certified the next year before one John W. Quinney of the town of Stockbridge in Oneida County. It provides for the sale of lands by the Menomini Indians of the vicinity of Green Bay, Wis., to the New York State tribes which wished to settle in that vicinity. The tribes of this state agreed to pay the Wisconsin Indians $3,000 for the lands in question. The treat bears the "x's" of the chiefs of the tribes concerned together with their names in English and the Indian languages. On the rear of the treaty is its approval signed by President James Munroe in 1823. Other papers in Robinson's possession deal with business affairs of the Brotherton Indians of New Jersey." I would appreciate hearing any ideas you might have about locating an Indian agent in the 1820s. Several years ago I wrote to NARA about Jonathan C. Johnston, Indian agent. They replied that they had no records concerning him. Best wishes, Cora McDonnell [email protected] ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== Contact the List Manager at [email protected] Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/

My husband and I are fortunate enough that we will be able to travel to mid-NY the first week of August, but it will be to 3 counties and time will be somewhat limited. I'm gathering everything I can so we won't waste a moment or regret not doing something at the last stop. Our major interest is Constantia where the CARRs and FRANCISCOs lived. William Taylor Francisco was a mason and lived in the town just a few years, just long enough to be on a federal census and for his first born to meet and marry Nancy Louise Carr, daughter of Francis and Phela Delpha (Heath) Carr, who arrived 1830ish and remained until Francis died 9 Nov. 1883 and is buried in the Trinity Episcopal Church there. His youngest daughter, Lydia Carr Roy, and her husband Joseph A. ROY, also died and I assume are buried in the same churchyard. Lydia A. Roy died 30 Dec. 1910 and Joseph died 11 April 1926. A grandson, Francis Peter or Peter Francis Francisco, remained with his grandparents or in the same area until at least 1892 when he was found on the Constantia census. By 1900 he was elsewhere. I've been to Albany and know the drill there for marriages, but this is rather early and I wonder where exactly in Oswego marriage records might be found? Would it be better to go to the town hall or the city courthouse...if there is one? From the looks of the church photo on the Constantia church site, I would say the church does not have records there, so where would they be kept? I see only a mailing addres for the historical society. I would like to visit it. Is there a way to meet someone to look at records? I have rented film from the FHC and did find some land records for the CARR family, but so few tidbits...selling of land, but not the buying of that land. Any guidance would help us on our brief visit. Shirley Maynard

Really can't be of much help, however I googled for the OBS and found this, Guide to the Religious and Benevolent Societies and Organizations Collection: O-R http://webtext.library.yale.edu/diviflat/divinity.034-O-R.htm Oneida Bible Society Place of Publication: Utica, NY Dates: 1813-1814 Box: 14 Subject Categories: Bible and tract societies Comments: If you haven't already, you may want to try the OCHS at: Click here: Oneida County Historical Society they may know something about it. Jennifer In a message dated 6/23/2004 11:02:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Dear List, My mother-in-law had an old Bible which belonged to her ggggrandfather Jonathan C. JOHNSTON. Printed in 1819, Jonathan wrote inside the cover, "Jonathan Johnston, his book the gift of the Oneida Bible Society 1820." It is a small (4 in by 7 in) leather bound Bible with the initials "O.B.S." stamped into the front cover. He also listed the names/birth dates of himself, his wife (Nancy) and their nine children. Jonathan and Nancy are buried in the Hastings Cemetery, Oswego County, NY. From 1850 census records, the family must have moved to Oswego County about 1835. Jonathan was born in New Jersey (wish I knew what county), and Nancy was born in Schohaire County, NY. Can anyone tell me where to find information about the Oneida Bible Society? Did the Society do missionary work among the Indians tribes living in Oneida County? I have reason to believe that Jonathan was an Indian agent in Oneida County during the 1820s. An old 1938 Syracuse newspaper clipping, that my mother-in-law had saved, showed a photo of an old man, her uncle Thomas ROBINSON, looking at Indian Treaties which belonged to his grandfather Jonathan C. JOHNSTON. The article told the following about Johnston: "...Jonathan Johnston, who in 1822 was a government Indian agent in New Jersey. Most interesting of the documents is a copy of a treaty drawn in Green Bay, Mich., between Indians living in that region and clans of the Oneida, Stockbridge, St. Regis and Tuscarora Indians of New York State. The treaty was drawn in 1822 while Robertson's copy was made and certified the next year before one John W. Quinney of the town of Stockbridge in Oneida County. It provides for the sale of lands by the Menomini Indians of the vicinity of Green Bay, Wis., to the New York State tribes which wished to settle in that vicinity. The tribes of this state agreed to pay the Wisconsin Indians $3,000 for the lands in question. The treat bears the "x's" of the chiefs of the tribes concerned together with their names in English and the Indian languages. On the rear of the treaty is its approval signed by President James Munroe in 1823. Other papers in Robinson's possession deal with business affairs of the Brotherton Indians of New Jersey." I would appreciate hearing any ideas you might have about locating an Indian agent in the 1820s. Several years ago I wrote to NARA about Jonathan C. Johnston, Indian agent. They replied that they had no records concerning him. Best wishes, Cora McDonnell [email protected] ==== NYONEIDA Mailing List ==== Contact the List Manager at [email protected] Oneida Co Surname page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/oneida.html List Rules http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~myplace/mailing.html Oneida Co Genealogical & Historical Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyoneida/

Dear List, My mother-in-law had an old Bible which belonged to her ggggrandfather Jonathan C. JOHNSTON. Printed in 1819, Jonathan wrote inside the cover, "Jonathan Johnston, his book the gift of the Oneida Bible Society 1820." It is a small (4 in by 7 in) leather bound Bible with the initials "O.B.S." stamped into the front cover. He also listed the names/birth dates of himself, his wife (Nancy) and their nine children. Jonathan and Nancy are buried in the Hastings Cemetery, Oswego County, NY. From 1850 census records, the family must have moved to Oswego County about 1835. Jonathan was born in New Jersey (wish I knew what county), and Nancy was born in Schohaire County, NY. Can anyone tell me where to find information about the Oneida Bible Society? Did the Society do missionary work among the Indians tribes living in Oneida County? I have reason to believe that Jonathan was an Indian agent in Oneida County during the 1820s. An old 1938 Syracuse newspaper clipping, that my mother-in-law had saved, showed a photo of an old man, her uncle Thomas ROBINSON, looking at Indian Treaties which belonged to his grandfather Jonathan C. JOHNSTON. The article told the following about Johnston: "...Jonathan Johnston, who in 1822 was a government Indian agent in New Jersey. Most interesting of the documents is a copy of a treaty drawn in Green Bay, Mich., between Indians living in that region and clans of the Oneida, Stockbridge, St. Regis and Tuscarora Indians of New York State. The treaty was drawn in 1822 while Robertson's copy was made and certified the next year before one John W. Quinney of the town of Stockbridge in Oneida County. It provides for the sale of lands by the Menomini Indians of the vicinity of Green Bay, Wis., to the New York State tribes which wished to settle in that vicinity. The tribes of this state agreed to pay the Wisconsin Indians $3,000 for the lands in question. The treat bears the "x's" of the chiefs of the tribes concerned together with their names in English and the Indian languages. On the rear of the treaty is its approval signed by President James Munroe in 1823. Other papers in Robinson's possession deal with business affairs of the Brotherton Indians of New Jersey." I would appreciate hearing any ideas you might have about locating an Indian agent in the 1820s. Several years ago I wrote to NARA about Jonathan C. Johnston, Indian agent. They replied that they had no records concerning him. Best wishes, Cora McDonnell [email protected]

As you can see this was posted on the New London Conn. list. The site has many sets of postcards from upstate N.Y. including Utica and two sets of Trenton Falls. Neal Carrier Floyd, NY ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Date sent: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 20:20:29 -0400 To: [email protected] Subject: New London Stereoscopic Views Hi, Everybody, I hope the dads out there had a great Father's Day! I was just browsing around the Internet and found the Robert Dennis Collection of stereoviews. It's a huge collection of northeastern stereoviews, and it has a section for "New London, Tolland and Windham counties". I tried using the search engine, but the drop down menu was easier to navigate. There also are a good many specific towns, such as Hartford. I'm still a big fan of hand colored vintage postcards, but there is something intriguing about stereoviews. For one thing, they are 3-D views of landscapes our ancestors may have seen, and most are older than the oldest view postcard. Here's the link to the "browse" page: http://digital.nypl.org/dennis/stereoviews/browse.html ______________________________ ------- End of forwarded message -------

Thank you very much Ms Jennifer, I appreciate you taking the time to do the lookups for me. My grandfather never was interested in the "old country" so he never asked or paid attention when the family gathered. So my info on this family is limited to a death cert, the 1860, 1870, 1880, and 1900 censuses and a little bit of info that my grandmother gathered from some of grandpa's cousins. For whatever reason I never got around to checking the 1910, so thank you very much for that bit of info. Not sure about Margaret Cassidy. In 1870, it looks like Patrick's wife (suspected brother of Edward) is Mary, with a son Michael and daughter Catherine. The other Cassidy "up the road" in the 1900 census looks like the same Margaret that you found in 1910 except she has all three of her children living with her at the time, none of them a Michael or Catherine. So I'm not sure how they fit into the puzzle. I can't make out Julia's immigration date in 1910 either (and they didn't bother to include it the 1900). It almost looks like the last digit could be a 4, maybe 1854. As for Julia Halligan, in 1860 she should be about 17, if the birthday info in the 1900 census is correct, so if any of the Julia's that you found correspond to "my" Julia it would probably be one of the 20-somethings but I wouldn't know how to check at the moment. What I need to find is Edward & Julia's marriage certificate but am not sure where to check. My grandmother attempted to find info from the church and the town clerk but she apparently was unsuccessful. However, that was many years ago and I don't remember if she had the data from the census that I have collected which should give me a better idea of their marriage year. I may need to try again and see if anything turns up. I was also thinking of doing some searching of the NY State census. Since I don't know what info was collected in those censuses, do you think that there might be any good info that might be gleaned from them? Well thanks again for all the help. Steve

Does anyone know where I would find Church records for Camden, from the early 1800's? Kathy Johnson