EGAD! This is an example of the old saying that "haste DOES make waste!" I rushed that off when I saw that more town histories in New York - especially Oneida - were available! William Saltar (1757-1853) moved to the area in around 1802. A source said that he was an officer in the U. S. Bank in Utica, but they have no record of that. His son-in-law - Benjamin Walker - aide and adopted son of the Baron von Steuben was the president. My source (HISTORICAL AND GENEALOGICAL MISCELLANY by John Stillwell) also said that in 1796 the condition of the Indians was so unsatisfactory that Joseph Saltar (Wm.'s father) was with others appointed to attend to the lands assigned to the Indians. Wm. Saltar and two other men were appointed commissioners to sell their lands. I haven't found that anywhere else, either! <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Thank you for these town histories! My great, great grandfather William Saltar, lived in the area and for his last years in Trenton/Oldenbarnveld with his daughter, Sarah Saltar Mappa. I have tried "forever" to find out what he did for a living!!! Does anyone by chance know where "else" I should look? Thanks. Alice Pryor <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Alice, can you give us an idea of dates on these two? Cheryl Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA] More town histories for New York (oneida andOnondaga Counties) > My great, great grandfather > William Saltar, lived in the area and for his last years in > Trenton/Oldenbarnveld with his daughter, Sarah Saltar Mappa. I have > tried "forever" to find out what he did for a living!!! Does anyone by > chance know where "else" I should look? > > Thanks. > > Alice Pryor > > > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/718 - Release Date: 3/11/2007 > 9:27 AM > >

More town histories for New York have been added to my web site as follows: Oneida County The towns of Agusta, Annsville, Ava, Boonville, Camden, New Hartford, Rome, Steuben, Vienna and Westmoreland. Onondaga County The town of Van Buren All New York history files at my web site may be found from this link: http://history.rays-place.com/ny/index.htm Other recient additions for New York include: 8 town histories in Lewis County. The 1860 Gazetteer of New York State for Queens and Richmond Counties. Completion of the 661 biographies that I had for Jefferson County. Cheers Ray Brown http://www.rays-place.com

Kathy, I found the record, and agree it doesn't make sense. I would think that there is a mistake in the source they have listed. They are posting things so fast that some errors are slipping through. Even so, I'm really enjoying the expanded material. I have family who are still printers in Rome, so this was interesting to me. Cheryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Stonecipher" <katstone87@hotmail.com> To: <nyoneida@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:55 AM Subject: [NYONEIDA] Rome Directory Lookup, Please > Does anyone have access to the Rome Directories and could do a look up for > me. I am trying to locate my 2nd great-grandfather, Charles H. Mason. I > believe he was in Rome, NY in 1855-1859. I recently found a mention of > him in Ancestry.com's New York Genealogical Records, 1675-1920; however > the source mentioned does not make sense. The database has him living in > 1857, Rome, Oneida, NY, occupation Printer; but the source is the 1827 > Directory of Rochester, page 66. > > I do not see how he can be in the 1827 Directory of Rochester in 1857 :-). > I am wondering if he could possibly be in the 1857 Rome Directory and > possibly 1858 and 1859 directories, if they exist. > > Thanks for any help. > > Kathy Stonecipher > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/710 - Release Date: 3/4/2007 > 1:58 PM > >

The "Ir" in Irish could have been an "F" for Fish. John S Wilkinson, Rome, New York "You only live once. But if you do it right, once is enough." -----Original Message----- From: nyoneida-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyoneida-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Neal F. Carrier Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 11:10 AM To: nyoneida@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA] Irish Creek Reservation Well, let me try to respond again, hope it doesn't get hung up waiting for approval. The reference to "Irish Creek Reservation" came from an 1890 obituary for a Lott Sexton who died in Annsville. It said his family came to the Town of Lee in 1806 and settled on the Reservation. It also mentions a creek in the obit so maybe Fish Creek reservation was earlier known as Irish Creek. Neal On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:47:12 -0500, Carol Bain <cbain44@twcny.rr.com> wrote: > There is an Irish Creek listed in Montgomery County, but I don't know > if there was a reservation by that name. Carol > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathleen L. Last" <kllast@juno.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 5:27 PM > Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA] Irish Creek Reservation > > >> I haven't heard of the Irish Creek Reservation. >> >> On the 1907 Atlas, it shows FISH Creek Reservation. It runs along >> both sides of Fish Creek, in both the towns of Lee and Annsville, >> north west portion of Lee is shows starting in the vicinity of Point >> Rock and running south. >> >> I have maps of 1858, 1874 and 1907. 1907 is the only one that shows >> the patent areas, and this Fish Creek Reservation. The others don't. >> >> Kathy >> >> >> On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:06:32 -0500 "Neal F. Carrier" >> <carrier@americu.net> writes: >>> Does anyone know where the Irish Creek Reservation was in the Town >>> of Lee in the early 1800's? >>> If so, what was the source of that name? >>> >>> ------------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, let me try to respond again, hope it doesn't get hung up waiting for approval. The reference to "Irish Creek Reservation" came from an 1890 obituary for a Lott Sexton who died in Annsville. It said his family came to the Town of Lee in 1806 and settled on the Reservation. It also mentions a creek in the obit so maybe Fish Creek reservation was earlier known as Irish Creek. Neal On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:47:12 -0500, Carol Bain <cbain44@twcny.rr.com> wrote: > There is an Irish Creek listed in Montgomery County, but I don't know if > there was a reservation by that name. > Carol > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathleen L. Last" <kllast@juno.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 5:27 PM > Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA] Irish Creek Reservation > > >> I haven't heard of the Irish Creek Reservation. >> >> On the 1907 Atlas, it shows FISH Creek Reservation. It runs along both >> sides of Fish Creek, in both the towns of Lee and Annsville, north west >> portion of Lee is shows starting in the vicinity of Point Rock and >> running south. >> >> I have maps of 1858, 1874 and 1907. 1907 is the only one that shows the >> patent areas, and this Fish Creek Reservation. The others don't. >> >> Kathy >> >> >> On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:06:32 -0500 "Neal F. Carrier" >> <carrier@americu.net> writes: >>> Does anyone know where the Irish Creek Reservation was in the Town of >>> Lee >>> in the early 1800's? >>> If so, what was the source of that name? >>> >>> -------------------------------

Does anyone have access to the Rome Directories and could do a look up for me. I am trying to locate my 2nd great-grandfather, Charles H. Mason. I believe he was in Rome, NY in 1855-1859. I recently found a mention of him in Ancestry.com's New York Genealogical Records, 1675-1920; however the source mentioned does not make sense. The database has him living in 1857, Rome, Oneida, NY, occupation Printer; but the source is the 1827 Directory of Rochester, page 66. I do not see how he can be in the 1827 Directory of Rochester in 1857 :-). I am wondering if he could possibly be in the 1857 Rome Directory and possibly 1858 and 1859 directories, if they exist. Thanks for any help. Kathy Stonecipher

Does anyone know the death date and parentage of Letty (Celestia) Thomas, wife of John T. Thomas. In 1920, they lived at 108 W. Fox St., in Rome, NY. Letty was the adopted daughter of Hyzer Williams of Westernville. There is an inscription for Letty (no date) in Wright Settlement Cemetery. Her husband John T. Thomas died in 1946, so I am guessing she died later and there was no one to post her death date on the stone. Thanks Roy

There is an Irish Creek listed in Montgomery County, but I don't know if there was a reservation by that name. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen L. Last" <kllast@juno.com> To: <nyoneida@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA] Irish Creek Reservation >I haven't heard of the Irish Creek Reservation. > > On the 1907 Atlas, it shows FISH Creek Reservation. It runs along both > sides of Fish Creek, in both the towns of Lee and Annsville, north west > portion of Lee is shows starting in the vicinity of Point Rock and > running south. > > I have maps of 1858, 1874 and 1907. 1907 is the only one that shows the > patent areas, and this Fish Creek Reservation. The others don't. > > Kathy > > > On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:06:32 -0500 "Neal F. Carrier" > <carrier@americu.net> writes: >> Does anyone know where the Irish Creek Reservation was in the Town of >> Lee >> in the early 1800's? >> If so, what was the source of that name? >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I haven't heard of the Irish Creek Reservation. On the 1907 Atlas, it shows FISH Creek Reservation. It runs along both sides of Fish Creek, in both the towns of Lee and Annsville, north west portion of Lee is shows starting in the vicinity of Point Rock and running south. I have maps of 1858, 1874 and 1907. 1907 is the only one that shows the patent areas, and this Fish Creek Reservation. The others don't. Kathy On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:06:32 -0500 "Neal F. Carrier" <carrier@americu.net> writes: > Does anyone know where the Irish Creek Reservation was in the Town of > Lee > in the early 1800's? > If so, what was the source of that name? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Does anyone know where the Irish Creek Reservation was in the Town of Lee in the early 1800's? If so, what was the source of that name?

Hi, Seeking death date or burial permit for John COOK b. ca 1772 Falkbery [sp?], CT, who died after 1860 and was over 88 years old in possibly Westmoreland, Oneida Co., NY; or Orangetown, Rockland Co., NY; or Harrington, Bergen Co., NJ. Please see 1850-1870 censuses below. Was the father of John COOK's b. ca 1772, John COOK, who served from CT in the Revolutionary War? Thanks in advance, Jan Jordan <jnrose@webtv.net> === This is a rough draft; additions and corrections are welcomed. 1st generation John COOK b. ca 1772 CT [my 4 great grand uncle], father and mother b. CT ===  2nd generation a) Dwight Ray COOK [1807-1878] m. Mary Etta LEONARD [1810-1894] [of Ilion, Herkimer Co., NY, Whitestown, Oneida Co., NY, Westmoreland, Madison Co., NY, and Mohawk, NY. * b) Jonas COOK b. 1811 m. Catharine [Oneida Co., NY deed involving Jonas P. for PLATT COOK and Lyman WORLOCK. I have censuses 1840 Oneida Co., NY, 1860 Bergen Co., NJ with John COOK age 88 living with Johnas P. COOK b. 1811, 1880 Jonas P. b. 1811 is still in Bergen Co., NJ, a widower] * c) ?Stella COOK? m. Mr. WASHBURN [1850 John COOK, age 77 living with her] ===  3rd generation b) Ransom D. COOK [1828-1896] m. Mary WILSON [1834-1933] of Westmoreland, and Walesville, Oneida Co., NY, Saratoga Co., NY, New York City, Kings Co., NY, and Mohawk, Herkimer Co., NY. ==  4th generation b1) Ellen M. COOK b. 1840 m. Edwin J. CHURCH and d. probably before 1880. b2) Josephine COOK b. 1844 m. 1) Mr. GRAHAM, m. 2) Mr. DEWHURST. b3) Elbert G. COOK b. 1848 [occ. Justice of the Peace] m. Sophia REICHLING or REICKLING [1880, 1900 Rockland Co., NY censuses]. b4) Mary Augusta COOK b. 1851 m. Mr. SUTTON of NJ. ===  5th generation b3) Rosella COOK 1880 Rockland Co., NY census living with parents, etc. ================================== ======  1850 United States Federal Census Name: John Cook Age: 77 Estimated birth year: abt 1773 Birth Place: Connecticut Gender: Male New York, Westmoreland, Oneida HOUSEHOLD:  Household of STELLA WASHBURN age 58 b. MA COOK, JOHN age 77occ: Farmer b. CT (next door) COOK, JONAS P age 39 occ: Mechanic b. NY v-$200 COOK, CATHERINE  age 33 b. NY COOK, ELLEN age 9 b. NY COOK, JOSEPHINE age 6 b. NY COOK, ELBERT G age 2 b. NY COOK, RANSOM age 22 occ: Mechanic b. NY =======================================  CENSUS: 1860; Census Place: Harrington, Bergen, New Jersey; Roll: M653_683; Page: 0; Image: 193. John Cook Harrington, Bergen, NJ 88 1771 Connecticut Male Johnas P Cook Harrington, Bergen, NJ 48 1811 New York Male Catharine F Cook Harrington, Bergen, NJ 43 1816 Lenix Oneida County Female Josaphene Cook Harrington, Bergen, NJ 16 1843 Lenix Oneida County Female Elbert Cook Harrington, Bergen, NJ 12 1847 LEN Male Augusta Cook Harrington, Bergen, NJ 10 1849 LEN Female Henry Churchill Harrington, Bergen, NJ 25 1834 LEN Male Darius Berry Harrington, Bergen, NJ 21 1838 LEN =====================================  1870 United States Federal Census   (looks like JONAS was JAMES in this census) Name: Catherine Cook Estimated birth year: abt 1817 Age: 53  Birthplace: New York  Orangetown, Rockland, New York Race: White  Gender: Female  Value of real estate: View image Post Office: Piermont  HOUSEHOLD: Note: all b. NY COOK, JAMES B. age 59 occ: Track Supervisor RR  v-$5000 COOK, CATHERINE age 53 COOK, ELBERT G age 22 occ: RR Engineer COOK, MARY A age 18  (MARY AUGUSTA?).

Greetings Listers! I was wondering if someone who frequented the paper archives would be so kind to do an obit lookup for me. Picking at straws trying to learn details of my Grt. Grandmother Tina. A. COOPER COLE. She was from Vienna and born2/28/1855 to Alden C. Cooper and wife. She married Thomas G. Cole jr. on 9/15 or 25/1872. She died 5/14/1882. She left a husband and son Edward, and Homer, perhaps died bearing him. She was buried with her folks in the North Bay Lawn Cemetery instead of with her husband who is buried in Camden. Any help appreciated. Regards, David in NW Fl., but an Oneida native!

Last year I requested the obituary of CHESTER LAVERN NEPHEW of Lakewood, Jefferson Co., Colorado, from an RAOGK volunteer. Chester names a sister Wilma Archer of Utica, NY so I thought I should share this obituary: CHESTER LAVERN NEPHEW, 70 of Lakewood, died 1 Feb. 1991, in the Hospice of St. John. A memorial service was 5 Feb. in lakewood First Assembly of god church. The body was cremated. mr. hephew a native of Batavia, Ny was retired from the air Force. He was a member of Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 5061 and the Lions Club. survivors include his wife, Mary; three daughters, Rita Nephew of Holden, Jean Chavez of lakewood and diane lang of Santa Maria, Calif; two btothers, Carl of California and Russell of Batavia; a sister WILMA ARCHER of Utica, NY; five grandchildren and 5 great grandchildren. Deanna

Hi Folks Our family name is Birge & I was wobdering if the Gibson tree folks had any guesses why W. Birge Gibson may have gotten that name. Was his mother a Birge? Thanks Scott Birge Latham, NY 12110 -----Original Message----- From: dharguess@coastline.edu To: nyoneida@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [NYONEIDA] Bronson Cemetery in Vernon Thank you so much. That is quite a difference and all those names are in my set of the Gibson Family. Dale I have an internet copy of Vernon Center Cemetery(AKA BRONSON CEMETERY) College Hill Rd., Town of Vernon that I made June 1999. I am wondering why the 2007 listings differ in quite a few names and dates? My list for GIBSON: Gibson,Elijah (7 Apr 1819- 24 Nov 1889) Gibson,Elijah B. Gibson, Erasmus D. (1854-1936) Gibson,Err (1849- 1918) Gibson, Frank D. (1893-1976) Gibson,Isabella (21 May 1819-24 Nov 1889) Gibson,James W. (7 Nov 1808- 1 Jul 1871) Gibson, M. Leroy (1 Jan 1881-21 Jan 1890) Gibson, Matthew W. (ABT. 1824- 21 Sept 1870) Gibson, Neva B. (1880-1960) Gibson, Norman D. (27 Nov 1851-25 Apr 1866) Gibson, Vernon D. (1879-1956) Gibson, W. Birge (1 Jun 1873- 26 Aug 1954) There is no PETERS name. C. Anderson , Searching BRONSON , LENT, BELLINGER surnames. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess@coastline.edu> To: <nyoneida@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: [NYONEIDA] Bronson Cemetery in Vernon > Does anyone know how I can get access to a list of graves at the Bronson > Cemetery in Vernon? I am trying to find Gibson and Peters graves. > > I am also looking for a marriage between Alfred Collins and Elizabeth > (Betsy) that were probably married around 1853. I am trying to find > Elizabeth's maiden name and her parents. > > And lastly, I am looking for the parents of a Isabelle Mc Michael b: May > 21, 1819 probably in or around Vernon. > > Thanks, > > Dale > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

I think because his father's name was Elijah Birge Gibson (could be off a generation). I am finding the name Birge all through the generations so am trying to discover the connection. It goes way back. Dale Hi Folks Our family name is Birge & I was wobdering if the Gibson tree folks had any guesses why W. Birge Gibson may have gotten that name. Was his mother a Birge? Thanks Scott Birge Latham, NY 12110

Thank you so much. That is quite a difference and all those names are in my set of the Gibson Family. Dale I have an internet copy of Vernon Center Cemetery(AKA BRONSON CEMETERY) College Hill Rd., Town of Vernon that I made June 1999. I am wondering why the 2007 listings differ in quite a few names and dates? My list for GIBSON: Gibson,Elijah (7 Apr 1819- 24 Nov 1889) Gibson,Elijah B. Gibson, Erasmus D. (1854-1936) Gibson,Err (1849- 1918) Gibson, Frank D. (1893-1976) Gibson,Isabella (21 May 1819-24 Nov 1889) Gibson,James W. (7 Nov 1808- 1 Jul 1871) Gibson, M. Leroy (1 Jan 1881-21 Jan 1890) Gibson, Matthew W. (ABT. 1824- 21 Sept 1870) Gibson, Neva B. (1880-1960) Gibson, Norman D. (27 Nov 1851-25 Apr 1866) Gibson, Vernon D. (1879-1956) Gibson, W. Birge (1 Jun 1873- 26 Aug 1954) There is no PETERS name. C. Anderson , Searching BRONSON , LENT, BELLINGER surnames. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess@coastline.edu> To: <nyoneida@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: [NYONEIDA] Bronson Cemetery in Vernon > Does anyone know how I can get access to a list of graves at the Bronson > Cemetery in Vernon? I am trying to find Gibson and Peters graves. > > I am also looking for a marriage between Alfred Collins and Elizabeth > (Betsy) that were probably married around 1853. I am trying to find > Elizabeth's maiden name and her parents. > > And lastly, I am looking for the parents of a Isabelle Mc Michael b: May > 21, 1819 probably in or around Vernon. > > Thanks, > > Dale > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To Dale Which Peters graves are you looking for. I am related to a large family of Peters' who came to Vernon in the latter part of the 19th century from England. Most of them are buried at the Sunset Hill Cemetery in Clinton, NY. If you would like to contact me off line I would be happy to give you more information on the Peters line. _wldblume2@aol.com_ (mailto:wldblume2@aol.com) Dorothy Peters Tainter <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

I have an internet copy of Vernon Center Cemetery(AKA BRONSON CEMETERY) College Hill Rd., Town of Vernon that I made June 1999. I am wondering why the 2007 listings differ in quite a few names and dates? My list for GIBSON: Gibson,Elijah (7 Apr 1819- 24 Nov 1889) Gibson,Elijah B. Gibson, Erasmus D. (1854-1936) Gibson,Err (1849- 1918) Gibson, Frank D. (1893-1976) Gibson,Isabella (21 May 1819-24 Nov 1889) Gibson,James W. (7 Nov 1808- 1 Jul 1871) Gibson, M. Leroy (1 Jan 1881-21 Jan 1890) Gibson, Matthew W. (ABT. 1824- 21 Sept 1870) Gibson, Neva B. (1880-1960) Gibson, Norman D. (27 Nov 1851-25 Apr 1866) Gibson, Vernon D. (1879-1956) Gibson, W. Birge (1 Jun 1873- 26 Aug 1954) There is no PETERS name. C. Anderson , Searching BRONSON , LENT, BELLINGER surnames. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harguess, Dale" <dharguess@coastline.edu> To: <nyoneida@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: [NYONEIDA] Bronson Cemetery in Vernon > Does anyone know how I can get access to a list of graves at the Bronson > Cemetery in Vernon? I am trying to find Gibson and Peters graves. > > I am also looking for a marriage between Alfred Collins and Elizabeth > (Betsy) that were probably married around 1853. I am trying to find > Elizabeth's maiden name and her parents. > > And lastly, I am looking for the parents of a Isabelle Mc Michael b: May > 21, 1819 probably in or around Vernon. > > Thanks, > > Dale > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYONEIDA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >