My Grandmother taught me to make pasties when I was a little girl. My grandmother's mother-in-law taught her. The crust recipe is the best I have ever seen, I never used a recipe, but have been asked for it several times. My normal response would be just make a STIFF pie crust. I tend to make mine to flaky then they fall apart when u pick them up We just layer the ground round, potatoes (sliced) and a slice or 2 of onion to the top. We fold the edges over, so that when you eat them you have a handle. I cut mine in half and pour ketchup into the middle. YUM . You can also make them as a pie, not as good in my opinion, cause half the fun of eating them is picking them up. :) Pasties originated in Cornwall, England. It was what the miners would have for lunch, They never ate the edge because they couldn't wash their hands and it would be toxic from the coal. The edges were left for the fairies, gnomes, what ever, so they would keep the miners safe. Some times they would put fruit in the other end so they would have desert. They are poplar in UP Michigan because alot of the Cornish miners settled there. My ancestors settled in Lackawanna Co, Pa. I don't think they are as popular down there as they are Michigan. Patty