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    1. Re: [FOLKS] Memories
    2. Kim & Mike Paul
    3. Evelyn: I well remember those iron on patterns you mentioned! Actually, they are still available at many places. They still sell them where I work, in fact, I was looking at some the other day. I bought some a while back, and the pattern was of Sun Bonnet Sue, they were so cute! I learned the art of embroidery when I was in high school, but have not really done much with it lately. I do counted cross stitch, and I also know how to knit and crochet. I wonder if embroidery is a lost art, you don't see much of it as you used to. Evelyn, you sure did bring back a lot of memories when you mentioned those iron-on patterns! Kim

    02/12/2004 07:26:50
    1. [FOLKS] Memories
    2. evelyn b cooper
    3. Do any of you remember the iron on patterns women ordered? My mother got many of these to iron on to pillow cases, sheets, and doilies, then embroidered following the pattern. Very pretty. Mom wasn't much of a cook, but great at embroidery and crocheting. Thankfully I was teachable and enjoyed recreating various items, though never as good as mom. That was then. No longer have that skill but still have some potholders mom crocheted. Evelyn in Colorado ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

    02/12/2004 03:22:24
    1. Re: [FOLKS] Reading Old Newspapers
    2. evelyn b cooper
    3. Hi Susanne, Looking at old newspapers for me is a trip down memory lane, to what seemed like a simpler, slower age. What a great way to spend a quiet afternoon at the library. Even my oldest daughter (born in 1964) enjoys it. Evelyn in Colorado On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 15:16:51 EST [email protected] writes: > Yesterday I had the pleasure of reading some old (1940 to 1977) > Michigan > Newspapers. Was looking for Obits. > > Well it happened that I had to past the 'Dress Patterns in the > Newspaper". > Do you remember when they were there? I enjoyed the view the 'old' > style > clothing, as I was looking for the obits. Yes I did find two very > nice ones. > > Almost felt like 'sending for ' a patterns!! > > Susanne > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

    02/12/2004 02:09:02
    1. Re: [FOLKS] Hartland Town Historian
    2. evelyn b cooper
    3. Linda, The last I knew the historian was Mr. Norm LaJoie. The address is 9035 Ridge Road, Gasport, NY 14067-9705 Evelyn in Colorado On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:51:28 -0500 "Linda B. Boyatzies" <[email protected]> writes: > Does anyone know if there is an historian for the Town of Hartland? > If so, who is it and how can I get in touch with him/her? > > Thanks > Linda > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

    02/12/2004 02:03:33
    1. Fw: [FOLKS] Phoebe's 1857 Diary - Pt. 3
    2. Kim & Mike Paul
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kim & Mike Paul To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 12:59 AM Subject: [FOLKS] Phoebe's 1857 Diary - Pt. 3 Wednesday, February 17 Sewed in the morning. Called on Outwater's. Where to ask for a chance for Mother to go to Charlotte. About 20 at our house, a good time, but not as yesterday. The girls would not do what they know to be their duty. We felt good on their account, oh that the Lord would enable them to come out and be separated from the world. Mother went to Charlotte. Thursday, February 18 Thursday. Albert and Fitzer took down 8 girls to the one oclock prayer meeting at Charlotte. We had a good time. Mary (Maggie?) Fish and Alice spoke. I took tea at B. Barbor's. 6 of the children sick, came with him to the school house. Had a good time. I spoke because I was happy and could not be still. Albert and Philip spoke, I never knew them to feel it. Friday, February 19 A very cold day. No mail though. I sewed upon my black velvet. In the evening I wrote a composition on influence. I feel at peace but the evil one is on hand to tell me that because I do not feel quite as much in prayer at some times that I am not forgiven, that religion in my heart is only a fancy, but I know better, still I wish I had brighter evidence of any acceptance with God. Saturday, February 22 *Note- I did not correct the dates of the entries, I left them as they were, K* Went to Lockport. Mary A. Fish at home, went with her to meeting, had a good time. Our boys felt well. James Barbor means to seek religion. At Mrs. Outwater's all the girls have the cross, I pray earnestly that they may be whole hearted Christians. I do not feel as I wish I did. Sunday, February 23 Went to Charlotte with Mrs. Ransom, tried hard for subscribers but did not make out much. About 150 staid for class meeting at the school house in the evening. Mary Fish united with the church, a good feeling. Albert came home with me and sat about an hour. William, Father staid all night. Monday, February 23 Monday. I made my new hood. At John Whitingtons. Mr. Staats here to dinner. I put the horse in the cutter and Mother and I called on Mrs. J. Moore and took her some yarn. Mr. Anderson and Mrs. Kimberly H. At night the boys took a load to Charlotte and Mother. Not so good a time as the last. Tuesday, February 25 Sewed most of the day. In the evening I went with Albert to East Wilson. The members are very cold, but we were enabled to work with faith. It was a beautiful night, though cold. We enjoyed the ride. The Lord was with us, I felt it was good to see the Lord there. There were eight forward for prayers. Wednesday, February 26 Sewed upon my black waist. Called upon S. to ask them to go to meeting at night, a load of ten went. I told Albert that I was not free. Elisa Fish converted, Elisa, Mary, Alice spoke. I never heard Father Pray or speak so much. My mind was at peace. **Phoebe's father, Rev. Enoch Williams, was a Methodist Episcopal Circuit Rider Preacher. He had the Newfane curcuit. K** Thursday, February 27 Finished my black waist. Phoebe A. Barbor, my namesake, went to glory. I trust I may meet her there. I went to see her at night. Cut out some collars and then back to prayer meeting. The Spirit was there and we felt it good to wait on the Lord. Mary and Alice spoke, feeling that God has blessed me all the while and that he put the words in my mouth. Friday, February 28 I went to Phoebe Barbor's funeral, Henry and Hattie came. Henry took Mother to see Dr. Cresswell. I had a letter from H.L.J. **Henry L. Johnson, her beau, the other Henry is one of her brothers. K** It was the best for months, it is some satisfaction to know that he clears me from all blame or coolness. I wrote to Him, but did not finish. Saturday, February 27 Prepared the parlor for us to sit in at night. Went to make flowers. I went to the school house in the evening but few there. Fitzer took me home. I took a part but it was a heavy cross on account of what the boys said. I fear I feel they laugh too much. It is very muddy. Henry made up his mind to stay till Monday. Sunday, February 28 It stormed hard. Hatty, Henry and self went to Charlotte, it was better to come back. Mrs. Mary Baxter and Sovina Sherman paid for their papers. Albert spent the afternoon and evening with us, we spent it profitably. He feels that he is with his friends when he is with us. Monday, March 1 Very stormy, but I washed but did not hang out. Henry made a start for home but came back. Eleanor, Alice, Robbert, Margaret, George, Henry, Mary J. B., William, Martha and Mary Jane spent the evening with us as we closed for prayer, had a good time think all were pleased. I prayed at prayer this evening with all that were present this evening. Knelt. Tuesday, March 2 Rinsed up the clothes, but could not put them out of doors, sewed and made flowers. Henry went home. Mary Jane and Hattie and self went to Beebes to visit, had a good time. Wednesday, March 3 Cooked for Friday and donation. Called on Mrs. W. Leamon. Took Mother for donation. At last, they were not over civil on the whole as it was very cold and snowed and we could not get no one to get to our house. We felt much disappointed. Two more days and I shall have entered on my long dreaded year. If Henry could put off our marriage year, I think I should be happy. Thursday, March 4 Dried the clothes. Mother called upon the sick all day, very cold, the coldest yet. Went to prayer meeting, very dull. 9 years tonight since I first spoke in meeting. How little have I grown in grace all that time. I am but a babe in Christ, still I feel I grew. Sunday, March 7 Went to Charlotte with Mr. Barbor, back with Mr. Wilson. Albert called, we went with Mother to meeting. Philip took Hattie. Brother Staats came back with us, we had a good class meeting though there was not many out. Tuesday, March 9 Henry came with Miss Jones for Hatty. I called on Mrs. W. Leamon and John Whitington. Sewed on the shirts, no letter from Father. My mind is happy, I feel that is good to serve the Lord. I want to be wholy is, I feel very anxious for Margaret, if she would give up and serve the Lord. Wednesday, March 10 Mended my dress and did several other jobs, dried the clothes. The boys drawing straws from Mr. Gifford's, to take to go to East Wilson, so Albert staid the evening. We finished the shirts. Thursday, March 11 Went to prayer meeting, afterwards went with Margaret to S. Decher's to see the babe. It died at midnight. I lit up the school house. Ironed and did up Alberts shirt. Not many at prayer meeting, but the Lord was there. I am very happy in the work and think I never was so woefull but oh, this cloud that so oppresses. Friday, March 12 Friday. I sewed and at night, Margaret and self went to East Wilson along and I staid at her Father's to sleep, she thinks she is forgiven to God, be the Glory, I hope she will Believe more fully that she is, we had a good time. Though a hard walk, we where home by 10. Saturday, March 13 I was home to eat breakfast. Albert called for his things. Mother and Philip went to William Decher's funeral. It thawed fast. I patched my first shoe. My mind anything but at rest. I want to hear from Father and to know if Henry will go to Lima, but I try to cast my burden on the Lord, knowing that he will work all things for the good of those who trust in him, which I try to do. Sunday, March 14 A miserable day, all mud or water. Margaret called and Albert, and it was so muddy, he did not go to East Wilson or the school house. We had a very pleasant time, he felt he had to leave us and we to have him go, but it is for his good and the Church. Monday, March 15 Raining and thawing. The snow most gone. I washed, but did not hang out the clothes. Fitzer cannot decide what to do this summer. I mended my red quilt and in the evening wrote to Henry so that I shall have one ready to send as soon as I hear from him. The more I think of it, the more I feel that he must go to Lima. He is 24 today. Poor fellow, 2 years ago he was here. I do long to hear from him. Tuesday, March 16 This morning at 4 oclock, A. Outwater came for Mother, his wife was very sick. Fitzer went for Dr. Raymond. I altered Mother's light delance dress. Still thawing. Wednesday, March 17 Mother and Fanny went to Mr. Barbor's, he very sick. The mud very deep. I papered up my room and put it tidy, but did not sort my things, or take things from other rooms. Tomorrow is prayer meeting, what shall we do for a leader, I fear much for the lambs of the flock. Thursday, March 18 Today I hung out the clothes, got them dryed, sorted, and b(?) 48 of Mother's. I find I have letters from 32. Mr. J. Alberdy and Mr. Clark took dinner. Fitzer went with them to Mr. Solnance. Margaret Leman took tea, I went home with her. Sam Decher took us to watch his girl. To muddy for meeting. Friday, March 19 I ironed in the forenoon. In the afternoon, to the school house, it was the first day of school, home with some letters, back again, then to C. Snick(?) had a long talk with Mary Jane and her Mother on religion, then to the post office, talked with Theodore, then to see Mrs. Titus and went with her to call on Mrs. Thomas. The general mind of the girl is serious, we both thought of having our own meeting. Saturday, March 20 Huled some wheat, it was good. Finished my room and cleaned the other rooms. W.J. Robb came to see me, had a pleasant time. H. Decher is better. Mrs. O'Hara is very alone. Mrs. Ransom walked to Mrs. O'Hara's. I finished the ironing. Sunday, March 21 Called on Mrs. Bowen and Mrs. McKnight. Talked with them on the subject of religion. Went to the school house, not many out. We appear to be running down, I enjoyed. My mind at class still I feel discouraged. I have tried to pray that my heart may be full of love to God so that I may speak with the spirit and the understanding also to the girls on Tuesday. Monday, March 22 I washed and ironed and cleaned up the back room and did some sewing, everything moved out of sight. The boys went fishing and Mother calling. Tuesday, March 23 The day was pleasant. I went with A. Outwater to Lockport to see if I could get work. Spent the day with Mrs. Blair, her daughter gave me a pair of pickled dish glass. Mr. H. was at our house. I called on Mrs. Decher, Hatty, was better, and on Mr. O'Hara's, had a good time, then to meeting at the school house and watched at Mrs. Decher's.

    02/11/2004 04:54:48
    1. [FOLKS] Father's 1938 trip to Europe Pt. 13 (end)n
    2. Vee L. Housman
    3. 1938 TRIP TO FRANCE AND SWITZERLAND February 11, 2004 The next few days were glorious as Daddy showed us some of the sights of New York City. The most memorable one was our tour through the huge Rockefeller Center. Since it was less than ten days before Christmas the entire center was decorated for the holidays. Christmas trees decorated with ornaments and dripping with icicles were in every lobby and everywhere you went you were reminded of the glorious Christmas season. There's no doubt that all of our family were a bit overwhelmed by the vastness of the center and all of the things to see. In looking through the Rockefeller Center Guided Tour Book that Daddy had saved and put in his scrapbook, there are things that we probably saw that I don't really remember. One was a ship model of the Queen Mary! The model was twenty-two feet long, the longest model in the world, valued at $48,000 in 1938. Another thing we might have seen was what was described in the guide book as "Radio Facsimile, the lesser known of radio's two lusty off springs (the other being Television) . . ." The article goes on to describe how printed material can be reproduced, transmitted and received on a set designed for the home. I wonder if that's now called a Fax machine! I do recall the Radio City Music Hall. Somehow I knew or was told that it was the home of the famous Rockettes. Now whether we actually got to see their marvelous review or not, I can't remember. But I certainly recall that it was probably in the Radio City Music Hall building where I had the biggest thrill in my entire life. I recall that we were being guided through a display hall in which were a number of tall boxes that resembled the floor model radio sets of the day. But there was a difference. The boxes had a lid at the top and when you opened it up on its hinges, there was a lighted screen in front of you. It looked like a movie screen and on the screen you could see people moving around and could hear them talking like in a movie. The guide told us that it was a television set. And the next thing I knew the guide asked if there was anyone who wanted to appear on television. Of course being seven years old I immediately raised my hand and said "Me, me, me!!!" The guide took me into a brightly lighted booth where he had me sit on a stool. He asked what my name was, I told him and when he asked me where I lived, I told him I lived in Niagara Falls, New York. I just KNEW that he would be impressed with how far we had traveled just to get to New York City. Now I don't know if he smiled or not, but I certainly remember feeling so very important at that moment knowing that my parents and my sister were actually watching me and hearing me on something called a television set. Now I don't know what was more exciting to me in New York City. Was it the Rockefeller Center and the Radio City Music Hall and being on TV in 1938 or was it our trip to Macy's Department Store at Christmas time? Daddy took us to Macy's to see their animated Christmas storefront display and into the store where they had the most marvelous things for sale. From my point of view I was in paradise! The store was decorated to the teeth for the holidays and when we visited the toy section, I almost fainted dead away when I saw the large sturdily built wooden playhouse that had been set up and was for sale. I was allowed to stroll through all of the rooms of the playhouse all by myself, I was allowed to sit down on the little chairs if I wanted to and even now, I would pack everything up and move into that magnificent playhouse if all of my things would fit into it! It was a child's dream come true. It may have been that evening that Daddy treated us to the most unusual dinner we had ever had or could have even imagined. On the outside the restaurant appeared to be just a little one on East 52nd Street called the Swedish Rathskeller Restaurant. Their business card claimed that they served the "World Famous Swedish Hors d'Oeuvres Smorgasbord" I thought it odd that we had to go downstairs from the sidewalk level to get into the restaurant since I knew that it meant we were going into the cellar of the building. But once inside I realized that it was a rather fancy restaurant where we were greeted with a sight none of us had ever seen before. There was an unending buffet bar piled sky high with the likes of shrimp, maybe oysters and certainly other food that we had never tasted before. Daddy instructed us after we were seated at our table that all that we needed to do is to go up to the buffet table with our plates and help ourselves to whatever food we wanted to taste. I certainly can't recall what I put on my plate but I have an idea that I piled it sky high. I had never seen so much food at once and I had never known that there was such a place where you could eat as much as you wanted at only one price. In my mind I can still picture the Swedish Rathskeller Restaurant located in a cellar in New York City. It was probably the next day that Daddy checked the four of us out of the fabulous Roosevelt Hotel, packed us into a cab to Grand Central Station where we boarded the train back home. I'm certain that during the long train trip back to Niagara Falls, my thoughts were on all of the stories that I could tell my second grade teacher and the kids in my class at Pacific Avenue School about my unbelievable trip to New York City.

    02/11/2004 04:01:08
    1. [FOLKS] Hartland Town Historian
    2. Linda B. Boyatzies
    3. Does anyone know if there is an historian for the Town of Hartland? If so, who is it and how can I get in touch with him/her? Thanks Linda

    02/11/2004 02:51:28
    1. [FOLKS] Phoebe's 1857 Diary, Pt 6
    2. Kim & Mike Paul
    3. Saturday, May 22 Mother took up the carpet. I cut out two shnort night gowns out of fours yards of unbleached Factory(?), 10 cents per yard. Finished Fanny's stocking that is one pair of twine and began her a pair of wollen ones for herself, walked over to Mrs. Ransom's. Sunday, May 23 Wrote to Mary and Lucy. I thought I had laid Henry on one side but I find today he is in all my thoughts. Whatever I do, could I have seen this two years ago, what a different course I should have taken. Monday, May 24 I put a new curtain to my bonet. I remade the curtain to Mother's bonet. Mother washed. I did a few chores, and then had a ride to the PO (Post Office). I could not help thinking of Henry and me viewing the past, Still I feel that I am better off than I should be if I was married to a man that could so easily say farewell, I feel as though someone else had an influence over him, if so and that should lose its power then he will be vexed enough at his words to me but it will be too late then. Tuesday, May 25 Tuesday. Mother ironed. I did the dishes, made the beds, and twisted my yarn. It rained in the afternoon. I cut out Fanny's buff opener and trimed it with lace. Wednesday, May 26 It rained all day. Mary Totten married to Joseph Gould. I sewed upon Fanny's spencer. The boys went fishing with A. Outwater. Thursday, May 27 Mother fell and sprained her lame ankle. I got dinner and had did most of the work. I stood it pretty well but was very tired and went to bed early. A letter received June the first I find that God as been pleased to give a fine healthy son to Mary, they are all doing well, it weighed 11 lbs. Friday, May 28 Mother very lame and we did as little moving as possible, and sewed the rest of the time. After supper, I called on Mrs. Outwater. We had a letter from Hester, she is better. It also contained the news of the death of several of those I knew. Saturday, May 29 I helped with the work all day. Did the baking and mopped. I feel thankfull to God that I am so much better and especially now Mother is hurt. Sunday, May 30 All at Charlotte but Fitzer and self. I sent home Rachels dress. I went to School two years ago, I went with Henry J. How often I think of him and yet I know he has woed me ill. Br. Staats came for the night, we had a pleasant time. Both the boys where away. I began a letter to Jacob. Monday, May 31 I began Fanny's green bonnet, helped fold the clothes and did the other work. I feel badly for our girls dress, seems to have taken all their thoughts. I want more of an earnest spirit of prayer. Tuesday, June 1 Awoke at 4 A.M. and read an hour in chemistry. Ironed all morning. After dinner went a ride and then to W. Leaman's. Finnished Fanny's bonnet. Had a letter from Mary, she has another son. May, God spare them long to be a blessing to each other. Only three of us at our meeting, but God was there, I trust. M. Leaman though taken up much with dresses, trying to seek the Lord. Wednesday, June 2 Mother, Fanny and self went to Lockport by way of the gulf and around home by Mr. Alberty's. We where very tired. How many things put me in mind of two years ago when I went with the boys and Henry Johnson, by the gulf. Thursday, June 3 I sewed. Fitzer whitewashed. I did the dishes. After supper, twisted some yarn. At John Whitington's. Friday, June 4 Helped at housecleaning all day, put ready for churning. Mr. Leaman came for a while, we sat in my room and bathed of our prospects for Lima and studies. Heard from East Saginaw through the minister. Saturday, June 5 Baked and helped about the house till 5 and then lay down till 6 and then went to see Electa McNight. How I wish she was a Christian. I do not feel as well as usual. Sunday, June 6 Very rainy in the morning. Sat and fine in the afternoon. After supper Fitzer and M.E. Leaman took a walk to the woods. It was very pleasant. I have not been there before in almost 3 years. Monday, June 8 We washed and did up the summer coats for the boys. It was very windy, but we got them dry. After- wards, I finnished my letter to Jacob. Father and Mother made out Henry L. Johnson's bill and sent it to Mr.-office. How I felt, Dear Fellow, I wish we had never met but I trust it is for the best. Tuesday, June 9 Mother and I ironed and I went to see Mrs. Whitington, took tea with her, came home and found we had company, a Mr. Simpkins. The preacher from Nebraska. William Totter staid here all night. Five girls came to the meeting, we had a good time, and so did Mother. Wednesday, June 10 I cleaned the out side of the parlor windows. J. Simpkins was here till dinner. Fitzer took him to town and Mother to Mrs. Anderson's. I ironed. Mr. St. John was buried. Father preached. John Streland's funeral sermon. M.E. Leaman called to see if I could ride in the evening, but it was too wet. Thursday, June 11 It rained all day, in the afternoon, the hardest I ever saw. For a while, I was quite sick, sewed in the afternoon. Mary's boy is two weeks old today. I am very anxious to have her come home. Friday, June 12 I finished Mother's Braime bonnet. Went to the office. Called at Mrs. Douglasses to see Mary Bennet. Went over to see Abraham Outwater's to swing but it was so late we did not swing. How often I think of Henry, I would like to be on friendly terms with him, I feel to pray for him that he may turn to the Lord and enjoy his favors, he did once, I feel that I am in the hands of the Lord. Saturday, June 12 Mother went to Lockport. I cleaned my room and the other upstairs. Mended Fanny's cable bedspread, put up the new blinds. Miss Sarah Jane Gates came home with Mother it was very damp and cold. Sunday, June 13 Very wet with a fog. All at home. Miss Gates and self went to the school house. When we came home, Albert Thomas was there. We spent a happy and proffitable evening. Father asking us better questions. If I could but forget my love for Henry, how much Happier I would be but I loved him too much to forget so easily. Monday, June 14 Brother Staats came, we had a pleasant lively day. We had a swing at 4 P.M. S. and I went home. I commenced Mother's corded skirt in the evening. All the girls came to swing. I tried to ride Betty, but she did not like it, but Jerry let me. Thursday, June 18 Mrs. McCollum came, Mrs. Moore, Mrs. C.C. Ranker, Mrs. McNight, Mrs. Himberly, Mrs. Anderson, called and then Mary Jane Sovich and Bertha Warren, Sarah Jane, Fitzer and self went to Warren's to meeting, it was very pleasant, but the meeting was dull. I spoke and prayed. Friday, June 19 Sarah Jane went home. I finished the skirt an washed it all. The girls that came to swing called. Put the lining into Fanny's bonnet. Disappointed at not hearing from Mary. Saturday, June 20 I borrowed one dollar from A. Outwater. Verry hot today. Mother and Fanny went to Sovina's with Father. I did the work and Ironed some. M. Leaman came and staid all night. The boys went swimming. Sunday, June 21 A verry hot day. Fitzer at home all morning. Philip went to Albert's. I went out to Sunday School. Susan Perry and M. Outwater with M. Leaman, made a Call. I felt verry sore all day. Old thoughts will come of one I loved. Monday, June 22 The raised the sho--. I mopped the upstairs and washed. Susan Perry came after some butter. I sold two pounds and one half. I am to be paid on Saturday. I am very tired and far from well. I wish I had more of the love of God. I do not feel badly that I gave hime my love. Mary's babe is...George. Tuesday, June 23 I folded my clothes and made a hooped skirt. Sat with Mrs. Whitington and she came to see me. Had two letters for Mother and one from Jacob for me. A good meeting at Mrs. Douglasses. Saew Helen. 1 year tonight since Henry first waited on me. Wednesday, June 24 I churned and ironed. Sold Mrs. Perry 5 pounds of butter at 14 cents a pound. Martha Streets took dinner with me. Father and Mother came home, the boys at swing at B. Barbor'sd I sat alone all the evening. And how many thoughts filled my heart. Thursday, June 25 Mother unpacked her things. I cleaned the hall windows. Mother and I called on Margaret Leaman. Friday, June 26 We cleaned the butery and I stained the five cup board, Philip's stand, Mother's, and the one from the parlor bedroom and varnished them. Margaret Leaman called. I went with her to see Mrs. Whitington. Saturday, June 27 We washed the paint and put down our carpet. How thankfull I am that I am able to do my share. It is very hot. The boys hoeing corn, they went swimming in the evening. Sunday, June 28 Fitzer, self, with Philip went to Charlotte. I called on Mrs. Skinner in the afternoon, then to the school house. Brother Staats staid at our house. It rained last night. I desire to know more of the love of Jesus that I may be more unto Salvation and know how to share the temptations of life. Monday, June 29 Made self a muslin spencer and in the evening washed. It was very hot, but we had finished by ten oclock.

    02/11/2004 02:32:06
    1. [FOLKS] Reading Old Newspapers
    2. Yesterday I had the pleasure of reading some old (1940 to 1977) Michigan Newspapers. Was looking for Obits. Well it happened that I had to past the 'Dress Patterns in the Newspaper". Do you remember when they were there? I enjoyed the view the 'old' style clothing, as I was looking for the obits. Yes I did find two very nice ones. Almost felt like 'sending for ' a patterns!! Susanne

    02/11/2004 08:16:51
    1. [FOLKS] Grandma's Scrapbooks
    2. Kim & Mike Paul
    3. Dear Group: In one of her posts, Vee mentioned a scrapbook of her father's. That reminded me of the two scrapbooks my grandmother made when she was a young woman. My grandmother Clickner loved the movies and she collected pictures of the movie stars from the silent movie era through the 30's and early forties. When Grandma passed away, Mom and I went throught her estate to see what she had. We were in the upstairs attic, and I couldn't believe what was up there! There were racks of vintage clothing, several boxes of antique sheet music, and the scrapbooks. I almost passed by those gems, but my curiosity got the better of me and I took a look. There was Mary Pickford, Joan Crawford, and others. I was enthralled, and I kept looking over the scrapbooks. In the same box I found two brown envelopes, I opened them up, and out came 8 by 10's of the great movie stars. There was even one of Judy Garland, one of my favorite actresses. There was even a picture of Lillian Gish, and that was personally autographed by Lillian herself. Some of the other photos were autographed, but the autographs were stamped on. I have the scrapbooks now, and unfortunately, some of the pages are yellowing from age. I have them stored away from light. There was also a picture of the great Rudolph Valentino. I have started a scrapbook of my own, it is a family heritage scrapbook. I took a couple of classes in scrapbooking and now I'm hooked. What a great way to combine two hobbies, crafting and genealogy! Kim

    02/10/2004 06:22:12
    1. [FOLKS] Phoebe's 1857 Diary, Pt. 5
    2. Kim & Mike Paul
    3. Saturday, April 17 Albert brought me home. It was a pleasant time for a ride. Did the upstairs. Washed, mended my light dress, finished my dark apron like my skirt. Called on Mrs. Whitington and on Mrs. Outwater, took some tea. Sunday, April 18 A beautiful day. Mother and Fanny rode with John Whitington, Father and self with A. Outwater. I was taken sick and could not stay in church. Went to the Water, saw 10 converts immersed. Cornelia Gifford was one. Way too sick to see the Methodists. At the Church there was 2 sprinkled and one poured and eight immersed. I took dinner at John B., then walked home. Monday, April 19 Mother went on a load of wood to Lockport. I washed the white clothes, finished Fanny's dress like Mother's. Wrote to Henry, Mother took it to town. Tuesday, April 20 Began Rachels dress, but by 9 A.M., was taken with a violent chill and I did not come out of the fever till 4 P.M. Had to send word to the girls that I was too sick to have a meeting. A verry bad day. Wednesday, April 21 Did not get up till 10 A.M. Sewed the rest of the day, but went to bed early. Thursday, April 22 I had a chill at 5 A.M., which lasted till 7 A.M., and fever and sat most of the day. Margaret Leaman and Mrs. Perry spent the afternoon with us. Martha Sheets and Eleanor O'Hara called. Friday, April 23 Pretty miserable. Made one sleave of Rachels dress and went to bed early, had Fitzer bring me a warm, flat, felt vey ill, lay awake most of the night. In earnest prayer that I might be reconciled to die, myself, I felt it would be far better. But poor Henry, just when he thinks I am his to be taken from him. I pray God to strengthen and bless all connected with me. Saturday, April 25 At one oclock P.M., the chill came on, at three, I called the boys, they light the fire and then with Mother, got me down stairs, I was very ill, sent for the Dr., he called it intermittent fever, with congestion of the bowels. I think I cannot stand many such days. Dear Father and Mother and Henry. May God support them. Elisa Fish called, it was quarterly meeting. Sunday, April 26 I slept with Mother, a poor night. Today, the fever is off, I sat up most of the day. 3 girls called and Mrs. Outwater, Mrs. Ransom, and Elisa Fish. Eleven where baptised at the school house. W. Sisson came here to dinner. Monday, April 27 I had but a slight chill, but such a fever, bad from midnight, but did not vomit this time. I told Mother I thought I was going to a better world than this, she think feared it. John McNitt staid the night and W. Bennet called. Henry has scarcely been out of my thoughts. Dear fellow, I trust he will get here before I die if that is the Lord's will that I should go now. Tuesday, April 28 I did not get up till seven, of course out of my stupor till then. Several called to see me. On the whole, I think I am better. Margaret was the only girl out this evening. She went away in tears, she thought I was going the way of all the earth. The Lord has been better to me than all my fears, and though I did not sleep much, I have had no chill, and but little fever. In the afternoon, I walked part way down the garden. I turned the heel of my stocking. Thursday, April 28 quite smart, so that Mother left me with Mrs. Perry and went to Lockport. Mrs. Peniel and Mr. Robb went to be married. By night, I was quite tired. Finished Rachels dress. It looks well. Friday, April 29 Not so well. Mrs. McNitt called. I made a few flowers but was nervous all day. Just as we where going to bed, some boys where on the veranda. Went to try and get the boys out. It was too much ecitement. I could not go to sleep for it. But at half past 12, I put in a few minutes, I was awake by the morning partly starting up before our door. I could not sleep the rest of the night. Saturday, May 1 A little better. I made a few flowers and walked down the garden. My mouth is still sore. My first thought this morning was the first of May is come, now I can took for Henry. Sunday, May 2 Sunday. I wrote to Henry to pass time for I love to write to him. I am a little better. If it was not for My Dear Parents and Henry, I could wish to Burst these bonds and fly away. To those bright and endless day, I try to commit my cares to God, but feel as though some thing unhappy waits for me. Monday, May 3 I got up quite early for me, made several flowers. Alice called and while she was here, a chill came on, it was about 6 P.M. and lasted with the fever till 1 A.M. Tuesday, May 4 5 A.M. I arose from the stupor and sat up the rest of the evening. Had a leter from Henry,who in the most sumnary manner bids me farewell, I wrote to him directly. I was calm but I wrote plain and with affection. Dear fellow, he still thinks how much, but he is throwing away, but I do not think he is engaged to another yet. Wednesday, May 5 I got up quite early wrote another sheet today. Fitzer took it to Olcott. In the evening I had a chill. The fever was very bad. I had slept but one hour the night before so was very tired. I have lade my burden before the Lord, and feel that he will guide me. Thursday, May 6 Lay in a stupor most of the day. At night the Dr. came and pronounced it typhoid. He left something to make me sleep. Many people call every day and show great interest. My mind is at ease. The Lord will guide me. If I only knew that Henry was directed, help him as he was once, I should be happy. Friday, May 7 The Dr. called and hoped I was better. I was in a fever then but it did not last so long, or my head will ache so badly as it has. My thoughts have been with my letter. I feel I have done write. I have prayed to be directed and I think I shall. Saturday, May 8 I was stupid most of the day. The Dr. thinks he has it upon the right course of medicine for me, but I cannot take any tonic. Dear Mother is almost worn down, I fear for her she looks badly. I hope my letter has reached Henry. If he is in a happy state of mind, I know he will feel differently towards me. I was notout of bed, in all today. Sunday, May 9 I kept to my bed all day. At night I had a chill but it was more of an in(?). A good many called to see me. My head was very painful. Mother did not rest much. Mr. Solviance called and enquired of the state of my mind. Monday, May 10 Mother washed. I lay quite still all day. Simeon tried to run away and take all his things, but was found out before he left the farm. I only sat up long enough to have my bed made. Tuesday, May 11 I was very sick most of the evening, the Dr. called and said I must keep on the Amonia. Mother was very sick, too, we both vomited a good deal. At night I got Fitzer to take me into the parlor and he lay on the floor. Wednesday, May 12 Lay in a stupor till 3 P.M., no appetite after that. I got up and changed my clothes and sat in the big chair afterwards. Mother is better, around today. I hope it is not chill fever she has. Thursday, May 13 I had another chill. When will the last be. I look forward with dread of a chill and with joy to. Saturday because then I hope Henry will be here. Friday, May 14 The Dr. came say he will change my medicin and try a t(?) with dobens powders. The boys are still hunting the cave. What will tomorrow bring. His Henry on the way, I hope I shall be free from a chill so as to give him a free greeting. Saturday, May 15 Lay in a stupor till 3 P.M., but thought when I could of Henry, then I got up. Though I feared a chill yet I wished to watch for him. I missed my chill the first time. Brother Henry came. Sunday, May 16 Henry and Fanny went with Father to Warren's. Fitzer went on foots. Philip to Charlotte. I had very bad pains in my limbs and could not lie down, they jumped so. Margaret Leamon called to see me. Henry went home in the afternoon. I felt as though I had done right by H.L.J. though he has done me very wrong. I trust he will be guided in all his ways. Monday, May 17 The boys in search of the cow. The ox very sick, a rainy day. I have a load on my mind that I cannot shake off. I have had no chill but I am in a good deal of pain. Tuesday, May 18 All the neighbors turned out to scour the woods for Duffy, the ox very sick. I had a letter from Henry L.J. in which he desires to be free. Of course I have no wish to hold a man to his promise when he wishes to be free. I love as clearly as ever the night I promised to love but Henry is so changed an he never would write to me as he does. I can hardly fancy he is the man I promised. May God not lay sin to his change for breaking a promise as we made. Wednesday, May 19 I felt badly but ran some pleat in Fitzer's shirt, also knit some. I slept upstairs for the first time with. Elsia Fish, Fanny taken with the hooping cough. Thursday, May 20 Sewed and knit on Fanny's stocking and finished the cloak of my own. Two girls called in the evening, they staid verry late. I can hardly realise that Henry has proved so faultless to his vows. It seems strange not to pray for him as the one in whoom I had the most trust in. Friday, May 21 Finished my own yarn, doubled some more, did not sew any. Cut out two peticoats. Made the 3 beds upstairs.

    02/10/2004 05:50:32
    1. [FOLKS] Re: NYNIAGAR-FOLKS-D Digest V04 #30
    2. Jane Achbach
    3. Hi Vee and All, Speaking of the heirlooms, I had something wonderful happen this week. My cousin's wife up in Tuscola Co. MI has asked me to help assist her with another line of my family. My grandparents were married there in 1906. In 1911 their house burnt and all of the wonderful memories were destroyed - or so I thought until this week. Lucy sent me a pic of my grandparents on their wedding day. Her 92 year old mother-in-law found it in a album that had belonged to my grandpa's sister! We were thrilled beyond words! Had it not been for family genealogy, no matter which branch on the trees we would not have obtained this wonderful picture! So every little morsel is important to someone! I have also discovered by taking pictures of gravesites helps the next generation avoid tromping for hours on end looking for gravesites like I did. The diary is a wonderful addition to your family! How lucky you are! Jane in FL

    02/10/2004 03:18:21
    1. [FOLKS] Father's 1938 trip to EuropePt. 12
    2. Vee L. Housman
    3. 1938 TRIP TO FRANCE AND SWITZERLAND February 10, 2004 The ultimate day arrived when Daddy and the Queen Mary would be sailing into the New York harbor on December 15, 1938. I doubt that Mother could have made any sort of arrangements for getting the three of us to the pier in time and getting us past Customs and so once again I'm assuming the that company provided us with the transportation and taking care of all of the details. After all, it was Mother's thirty-fifth birthday that day and she still had to keep her 12-year old daughter Norma and her 7-year-old daughter Vee in tow. And the next thing I knew I was standing in the middle of a massive milling crowd at the pier waiting for the Queen Mary to sail the last few moments to tie up at the pier. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the ship. It was surrounded by many tugboats that were guiding it into port. The ship was so huge it made the tugboats look like little toy boats alongside it. It looked like a gigantic floating hotel. I bet it was three times bigger than Hotel Niagara in Niagara Falls. Not only that but it was longer then three and a half football fields. I couldn't believe that anything that big could actually float on the water. As it came closer and closer I had to crane my neck up higher and higher to see the top of it. Starting where the ship was floating on the water, it had a black hull about four stories high. You could see rows and rows of portholes in them. Then there were several more stories higher up that were painted white. They also had portholes in them. Then above that was a deck all enclosed in glass. I suppose that was the Promenade Deck. Above that was row after row of lifeboats and higher up was another deck which is probably the deck used for the passengers to step into the lifeboats in an emergency. And at the very top of the ship were three HUGE smokestacks painted bright red with a big black stripe around the top of them. Although not as spectacular to look at, there were two masts fore and aft which were even taller than the smokestacks. It's a wonder the top of the masts didn't just disappear into the clouds! When the Queen Mary finally docked and the passengers started to disembark, it was almost pandemonium while hundreds of passengers made their way down the gangplank and family members urged their way forward to get the first glimpse of their loved one. Frankly I can't remember the first sighting of my father nor of the wonderful hugs we exchanged at dockside, but I do remember that later in the day Daddy took all of us aboard the Queen Mary and showed us the sights. He showed us where his cabin was and it's only from the baggage tag that's in his scrapbook that I now realize that he was traveling as a First Class passenger and that his cabin number was S-17. In his trip souvenirs is a large chart showing where all of the cabins were and all of the other spaces aboard ship that were for the passengers' pleasure. And WOW, did he go First Class! He had an outside cabin on the Sun Deck where he could just walk out of his door and step right onto the Promenade Deck. He gave us an eye-opening tour, showing us the magnificent dining room where he ate and all of the other magnificent spaces. Frankly, I can't quite remember what they looked like but there is one thing that has stuck in my mind ever since 1938. It was the ship's huge indoor swimming pool. What made it so spectacular was that it was two decks high and when you looked down at it from an overhead walk, the sides of it went down, down, down before you could see the water in the pool. I asked Daddy why the sides were so high. He explained that when the ocean was a bit rough the high sides prevented the water from splashing out. I remember that we eventually returned to the Roosevelt Hotel and I remember vividly how we had celebrated that evening. The four of us had a memorable dinner in the grand dining room at the Roosevelt Hotel. Only Daddy had experienced such an elegant dining experience prior to that occasion. He had just returned from sailing aboard the Ile de France and the Quean Mary during the past month. And with Guy Lombardo's Orchestra playing gently in the background Mother and Daddy and Norma and I had a dinner that our family had never experienced before together in our lives. However, there came a tense moment for Mother when the elegant waiter brought around finger bowls for all of us. Floating in the lovely clear bowls of water were slices of lemons. Although I don't recall the moment, Mother told me about it years afterward. She said that she had to hold her breath in fear that I would pick up the bowl and drink out of it. But then she also told me that she was so proud of me when I checked on how Mother and Daddy were using their finger bowls and I followed suit. I daintily dipped my fing! ers into my bowl and dabbed them properly on the napkin in my lap and behaved like a proper little lady! Neither she nor Daddy could believe it!

    02/10/2004 12:47:14
    1. [FOLKS] Phoebe's 1857, Pt 4
    2. Kim & Mike Paul
    3. Wednesday, March 24 I lay down a while till breakfast and then called on Mrs. Thomas. Ironed some things for her, sewed when I got home, slept an hour. Fitzer came home. Went to meeting. Slept in my own room for the first time in 15 months. I am glad to be there again. Thursday, March 25 Mrs. Barbor and S. here. Worked at my gaitors, got dinner out in the back room. My mouth very sore. I fear it is the cankor. I got some wash from Mrs. Outwater. Went to meeting. 5 took part, 25 there. It is good to see Father at home. Friday, March 26 Had a letter from Henry, he feels very badly and so do I, poor fellow, if he only would come back, I think all idea that I am a flirt. Would go. Mother went to call on Mrs. Thomas. I wrote in the evening to Henry. I hope it will ease his mind. I tryed to write with ease. Saturday, March 27 I finished my gaitors, they sit well. My mind is all at ease. Have I been mislead, can it be that I have done sin? In promising Henry I could stand anything rather than have him think I love another. I went and read, "Are You Forgiven", to Mrs. Thomas. I talked to both of them I think they will try and have family prayer. Sunday, March 28 Went with Father to Charlotte, only gave one paper. Could not compose my mind to read. Sat in my own room and the thought of one who sat with me there two years ago. How great the change now. I then wrote to him. Monday, March 29 I washed. Mother and Fanny went to Mrs. Scofield's. I set up the second foot of my blue stocking. Mary Sherman came over and sat a while. I did not feel very well and went to bed early. Feel more at ease, I trust in God that he will direct our steps. Tuesday, March 30 Sat with Mrs. Whitington and Mrs. Tatton. Outlined my black waist. Elisa Fish came, Mother came home. I called on Mrs. Thomas and went to Mr. Barobor's for Father's boots and then to prayer meeting. It is to be a regular apart(?) We had 6 out. Wednesday, March 31 Mr. and Mrs. Penill and Jane Duffy came. Mr. H. and Charles Halsey in the afternoon. Mother had tea by invitation at Mrs. B. William John is converted. I mended my peticoat. Friday, April 2 My throat better. Father gardening. Mrs. Outwater called and Mr. Staats. In the afternoon I called with Mr. Staats on Mrs. Thomas, we all prayed with her. He returned but I staid till night. I talked with Mr. and Mrs. a good deal, the Lord giving me words. I washed 9 fine shirts. Millie McGee called. Saturday, April 3 Papered the little red bedroom. Mother went to Lockport. I ironed the shirts. Albert Thomas called, we talked of Christian influence and the efect of Judging a person to hard as to wether they enjoye religion, because we may ere in Judgement, and another call it sin. Sunday, April 4 Went to Charlotte. Walked part of the way there, rode the rest with A. outwater and back with A. Ransom in the evening to the school house. My mind at peace. A very warm day. Monday, April 5 I washed and ironed. The girls came in the evening only three. Alice prayed, Margaret spoke, they both felt well. Elisa did not. The Lord was with us and I think it will be a blessing to us. Thursday, April 8 Made Fanny's dress like Mother's calicoe. Took home the bonnet it suits. Mrs. Thomas has been worse all day, still she is trusting in Jesus. Sam Albert said but little for I will not if I can help, he thought to trifle with anyone. If Henry was only here I think he would no longer doubt my sincereity. I think as long as my conscious is clear with God after this I shall cheer on encouragement all who need and leave it to his own good sense. When he comes to say if I have been uncomitted. Friday, April 9 Tated my gaitor. Mother went for the mail. The Solviance's came. How anxious I am for a letter. I try to cast my cares on the Lord believing that he will direct our steps. I feel the Lord is with us. I think I have Mother's good will. Saturday, April 10 Softened my gaitors, worked my nightgown collar. Sat two hours with Margaret Leaman. I think I have a good influence over, I think I am growing in grace. I feel to be dying to the world. I desire to glory only in the conscious of Christ and feel that I only can do good through His Influence, then went at caucus. Mother at Mrs. S. Sunday, April 11 Went with Fanny to see Mrs. Thomas, washed her. Poor woman, I think she has crazy turns or she would not act as she does. Albert at our house. Father preached at the school house, a feeling sermon. I pray God to steer his words home to the heart of Mary. Monday, April 12 I washed, but both pumps where out and it rained so I did not hang out. Finished my night gown. Oppresed with a feeling of trouble, But I tried to cast my care on the Lord. Spring is advancing nicely. Tuesday, April 13 Hung out part of the clothes. Townmeeting today. Mrs. J., Mr. Steadman, Mr. Fish, and Mr. L., here. It rained all afternoon. I washed my collar and altered one, new taped my skirt. It rained so hard we girls could not meet, letters from Henry. Wednesday, April 14 Hung out the rest of the clothes, sewed, cut out Fanny's sleeves. Went to Mr. O'Hara's, Mrs. J. Gifford and Mrs. Woodruff there. It showers all afternoon. M. Leaman gone to Lockport, so our meeting again put off. Called on Mrs. Whitington. I want to have more of the spirit of prayer. Thursday, April 15 Sewed some. Hung out more clothes. Elisa Fish called. Went to prayer meeting, only four there to. Very poor. I wrote some to Henry. Talked a good deal with Mother about him. How thankfull I am that I can trust the Lord to guide me now. Friday, April 16 Ironed and sewed in the evening. After dinner went to Mrs. Thomas, drove the carriage for them to the Drake Settlement. Helped with supper and then mended a dress of Lousia's, to make one for Rachel. Her bonnet sits nicely. I think they are pleased. How many thoughts I have had all day. How shall I bear the trials of life. I do not doubt Henry more than me but how many fail of happiness.

    02/09/2004 06:28:55
    1. Re: [FOLKS] Regarding Phoebe's Diaries
    2. Kim & Mike Paul
    3. Dear Folks: Vee made some important points that I think we should all consider, especially if we are ones who have the family heirlooms. I haven't even given the thought of putting family heirlooms in my will, but it sounds like it might be a good idea. What I have done is scanned all of Phoebe's diaries and burned them on a CD. I have done that with Phoebe's father's diaries as well as another ancestor's diary. I also inherited several autograph albums from the 1880's, and photographs, as well as letters. Some of the files were too big to put on one CD, so I put different family lines on a separate CD. I read somewhere on another list, someone suggested to put these CD's in a bank vault, in case you ever had a fire, which we did. That way, even though you may not have the original images, at least you'd have the copies from the CD's. At Christmas, my mother sent me a huge book that had a lot of biographies in it. The title of it is, "Portrait and Biographical Album of Branch County, Michigan." It contains a biography of my gg grandfather, Artemas A. Roberts. The book is the original edition and I was wondering if anyone knew how valuable these books are. I can get Heritage Quest free from my local library, and I was able to access this book and others, and have found a lot on my ancestors. The book also contains portraits and biographies of all the Presidents and Govenors of Michigan. Kim

    02/09/2004 05:39:49
    1. Re: [FOLKS] Regarding Phoebe's Diaries
    2. I made CDs of all of the photographs I had and sent copies to my cousins and siblings. I figured that way there would always be someone who could pass them on. That is 14 other people with copies. (Something really great happened. One by one, cousins with other pictures lent them to me to do the same thing. Now all of us have copies of all the photos available to us.) I also printed out everything I had collected on the family tree. Fourteen copies. I will give my daughter any of the items I've inherited that she wants, and give the rest to nieces and nephews. My aunt told me once, that I should tape names on the bottom of anything I specifically wanted to go to someone. It's a good idea. And I've made a list, that is in the cabinet with the few special things, saying who they once belonged to. Hopefully, by the time others get them, they will know what they are getting.

    02/09/2004 04:00:11
    1. [FOLKS] Father's 1938 trip to Europe Pt 11
    2. Vee L. Housman
    3. 1938 TRIP TO FRANCE AND SWITZERLAND February 9, 2004 As Daddy was sailing back home aboard the Queen Mary, Mother had many preparations to make before his arrival on December 15, 1938. She had been thrilled to find that the company would pay for our trip to New York City so that we could be there to greet him when he got off the ship and that the New York office of Vanadium Corp. of America would take care of the many details. She received an undated letter from the company located in the Graybar Building at 420 Lexington Avenue, New York, that said the following: Mrs. Houseman [sic]: Three customs passes are enclosed. Please note one is made out in the name of Mrs. L. Housman and one. This will permit you and one of your children to pass upon the pier. Either one of the other two passes you may use for one other child, even tho the name is different. The reason for this is that only two persons of one family are entitled to visit an incoming passenger, and therefore the other passes are made out differently. However, you will not be asked any questions in presenting only the two passes for the three of you. Very truly yours, R. Banker. In the scrapbook pasted below the letter is one of the passes that was used. It's a Customs Form 3095, Treasury Department, July 6-23 that reads: United States Customs Service, Office of the Collector. Port of [blank], 193__. Stamped across that line in red ink is "ISSUED Dec 15 1938. Good only for next arrival of steamer herein". Below that is "Admit within customs lines on pier of Steamship (and stamped across that line in blue or black ink is "Queen Mary") on her next arrival." Below is a blank that starts out with "Mr." and written in ink is "C. Johnson." It was then rubber stamped in red ink with the signature of "Harry M. Durmancy [?]," Collector. No doubt by December 13, Mother had our bags all packed, arranged for someone to take care of our dog Brownie, notified the milkman, the postman, the bread man of our going away in addition to Pacific Avenue School where I was attending the second grade and I believe my sister was attending LaSalle Junior High School at the time. It might have been as late as December 14 when someone drove us to the train station in Niagara Falls early in the morning and we boarded the train for New York City. Who knew what was going through our individual minds during the long trip. It had been almost a month since Mother had seen Daddy and no doubt Norma and I were looking forward to the presents he was bringing back for us. But I have an idea that all three of us were most excited about actually going to New York City!! I recall that we got off the train at Grand Central Station and I'm certain that all three of us gawked over the immensity and grandeur of it. It was the largest and busiest place that any of us had ever seen in our lives. Whether we were met at the train station by one of the Vanadium employees who took care of our luggage, tipped the porter and tended to all the other immediate necessities or whether Mother fended for herself. I have an idea though that we had a company man to guide us through such a confusing maze. Reservations had already been made for us to stay at the Hotel Roosevelt and I truly remember walking through an actual tunnel from Grand Central Station right into the hotel lobby. My mind is a total blank as to how I viewed such a magnificent lobby but eventually we were taken up to our room and somehow we had all survived the excitement of the day and evening trying not to even think of the most exciting day of all ahead, December 15, 1938.

    02/09/2004 03:26:17
    1. Re: [FOLKS] Regarding Phoebe's Diaries
    2. Vee L. Housman
    3. Dear Folks, Kim had mentioned: > I wonder how many are out there in similar situations, would it be a good idea to put things like > this in a will? After all, that way, you can be most likely sure that you'll have your wishes > made known. I've thought very carefully on that subject when I made out my will. I have no children or grandchildren but I still have family. And EVERYONE in my family currently knows that if even if the most insignificant family heirloom I have is sold for ANY price, I will come back to haunt him/her for the rest of his life. Regarding who gets what will have to be settled by my survivors. I know that it can get a bit "sticky" but my sister, brother and I managed to divide up Mother's precious things equitably with no hard feelings. Granted it took a bit of give and take. Such as when we all wanted the same piece but decided what other piece or pieces would be close enough in family value. We managed to get through it rather nicely and we've been speaking to each other every since then. Regarding Daddy's scrapbook, I've only recently brought it to light. My sister and I weren't allowed to even look at the "dirty pictures" in it and therefore the scrapbook wasn't discussed much in the family. My brother John wasn't born until two years later; therefore, he's only heard vague reference to Daddy's trip. The scrapbook has barely seen the light of day in the past 65 years. Whatever your family makeup is now at the moment, if nothing else let family members know what family heirlooms you have and tell them the stories that you know about them. In addition, photograph and/or scan them and/or write stories about the history of them. vee

    02/09/2004 12:56:22
    1. Re: [FOLKS] Regarding Phoebe's Diaries
    2. evelyn b cooper
    3. Good morning all, Regards to Kim feeling a new closeness to Phoebe, well I've heard the same thing from a cousin who has a diary of her great grandmother's. She tells me that when she is feeling a bit down, she reads it and because of this over the years she's had it in her possession has come to know this ancestor. Some time during a conversation with her I'll ask about transcribing it for her. Believe we can learn much from our ancestors daily lives. So Kim it's not weird to feel close to Phoebe - it's natural!! Evelyn in Colorado ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

    02/09/2004 02:46:38
    1. [FOLKS] Re:FOLKS] Regarding Phoebe's Diaries
    2. Hi Kim - I'm sure you do feel a relationship with her. You are reading how she really felt about things. Just because it's a one way relationship, doesn't take away from the fact that, you may know more about the real "her", than some people who lived with her. It's wonderful that she wrote so much. What she did every day, and what she thought. I am really enjoying reading it. Kathy

    02/08/2004 07:02:06