This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dcartmer Surnames: Herrington/Harrington Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3414/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for information on two William Herringtons listed on the 1830 census index for Niagara County, NY. One is listed in Hartland. If anyone has access to the census, I would love to know where the second William Herrington was living and any information on either of these family. Any clues would be appreciated. Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathydon217 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3413.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you tried this newspaper site for articles about the Proefrock in the Niagara Falls area www.fultonhistory.com If you search just Proefrock there are many stories on this family. Search in quotes like "William H Proefrock" #1 obit for Augusta Ostwald Profrock "William Profrock" Also, try the spelling Profrock-they MAY connect I tried Christian but no articles came up. Kathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: audrap_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3413.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: How do I email you besides this way? I am so excited to meet you! Christian, B: 1853, and killed by the train, is my GG Grandfather. My G Grandfather was his son, William Herman Christian Proefrock. My grandmother is still alive in N. Tonawanda and remembers when Christian was killed. It was the only time she remembers seeing her dad cry. I have a similar story from another newspaper. I look forward to interacting with you some more and sharing stories. I have more on my own database than what I put on Ancestry. Audra Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Weyers3353 Surnames: Proefrock Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3413.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Email me and I can give you a bunch on Christian and most of the Proefrocks.. He was my GGGrandfather. I have few pictures of them as well. They did go to the St. Johnsburg/Bugolz. I used to live at 50 Stenzil St. and my GGrandparents lived at 44 Stenzil St. They moved in there after Wilhelmina died. To further confuss things Johann had married 2 women named Christine T H E N I A G A R A F A LL S G A Z E T TE Aged Man Struck By Train, Killed (From yesterday's Owl Edition) NORTH TONAWANDA. July 8., 1935 Believed to have been struck by a southbound passenger train of the New York Central railroad's Niagara Falls branch at the Washington Street crossing, the lifeless body of Christian Proefrock, 74 years old of 44 Stenzil Street was found this afternoon in a ditch beside the railroad track. The body was badly mangled and was ordered removed to Hamp's funeral Home, In Adams street, by Coroner Jacob Helwig, who investigated the accident He said that there were Indications that the man was struck on the crossing and had been dead about an hour. It was learned that there is a Southbound train which passes over the New York Central tracks at that point at about noon and authorities believe that this train struck the man, its crew unaware of the accident. He is survived by his wife, Wilhelmina Proefrock: five sons, John, of Tonawanda. August, of St. Johnsburg, and Edward, William and George, of North Tonawanda: three daughters. Mrs. Philip Whittkopp and Mrs. Rudolph Blank, of Walmore. Mrs. Arnold (sic) (Otto) Weyers, of North Tonawanda; one brother. August, of North Tonawanda. and one sister, Mrs. Gustave Schendel, of Nashville. The funeral will be held Wednesday at 3:30 o'clock from the home and 4 o'clock from St. Mark's Evangelical Lutheran church. Interment will be in St. Mark's cemetery, Niagara Falls Boulevard. Glenn Weyers Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: audrap_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3413.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much for looking! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: audrap_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3413.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That is a good idea. But I live in California. I'll see if I can get some help through family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jrb65 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3413.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is nothing listed in St. Pauls Church records in Martinsville. They are the only records that I have for that area. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jrb65 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3413.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would check the church records for his baptism or marriage. I would be willing to bet the answer would be there. I don't know what church but it would almost have to be one in Bergholz, St. Johnsburg, Walmore, Martinsville, or Gratwick. It would also have to be a Luthern church. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: audrap_1 Surnames: Proefrock, Seefeldt Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3413/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am struggling with the parents of Christian Friedrick Proefrock, B: March 1853 in Wheatfield, Niagara NY; married to Wilhelmina Therese Seefeldt. Many people say his parents were Johann and Christine. But somehow I got my hands on a death certificate that says his dad was Christian: Death certificate: residence - 44 Stenzel for 12 years. profession - laborer in lumber yards. Last date he worked there was Oct 1924. He worked there for 20 years. (Note: Census data from 1900 and 1910 says he was a farmer) birthplace - Wheatfield Father - Christian (Note: previously thought the father's name was Johann) Mother - unknown from Germany informant - John W. Proefrock of 9 Fremont St., N. Ton., NY Undertaker - Fred Hamp Jr. of Tonawanda, NY Death occurred at 12:30 p.m. caused by "crushed legs and arms received by being struck by a train at Washington St. crossing N. Tonawanda, NY. There was no autopsy. Why would John (this is probably his first son, B: 1879) not know the mother's name? Maybe they had different mom's? I know from family stories that this IS my Christian, my great-great-grandfather, who died from the train. The only data I can find to support the father as Christian, versus Johann, is: 1860 Census: 1.) Christian Pefrock, age 45, B: Prussia, farmer Mary, age 29, B: Prussia (Is this the wife or the child?) John, age 10, B: NY, in school Augustus, age 8, B: NY, in school CHRISTIAN, age 7 (B: 1853), B: NY, in school Wilhemina, age 4, B: NY Anna, age 2, B: NY Wilhemina, age 6 mths, B: NY 2.) John Prefrock, age 48, farmer, B: Prussia Christena, age 42, B: Prussia Mary, age 12, B: NY William, age 11, B: NY Frederick, age 9, B: NY CHRISTIAN, age 7 (1853), B: NY I have census data on Christian's family (the Christian born in 1853 and married to Wilhelmina Therese Seefeldt) for 1990, 1910, 1920, and 1930. It's prior to that, when he's living with his parents, that I am unsure. Can anyone help me with any other information on Christian's parents and siblings? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RSomers2230 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/1654.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can you tell me how you are connected to this family? I do have information that different family members know there was a name change but no one seems to know why or how it come about. Rita Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RSomers2230 Surnames: Still, Somers, Summers, Sommers Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/1654.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Please tell me how you are connected to this Still/Somers family. Do you have any idea why the name was changed? In the 1900 census the name was spelled different by some of Henry Still/Jay D. Somers. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: brackettwilliam Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3412/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for the connections for Elizabeth J. Williams who was born in Canada in about 1815. Her father is listed as Chas. Williams who was born in England. Elizabeth married to Gates Upson by 1835 and they lived in Niagara County, New York before coming to Michigan, by 1860. Elizabeth's middle name could be Jospehine as this name was used in sucessive generations. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathydon217 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3404.1.2.2.1.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This MAY be the father of Joseph Raymond 1860 Census Champlain Indexed as Raymo Solomon 34 Margaret 22 Joseph 13 Samuel 4 ?Lcha 3 If this is the right family it looks like Margaret is too young to be the mother of Joseph. She probably is the mother of Samuel and Lucy. ----------------------------------- 1870 Census Champlain Indexed as Raymo Selema 42 Margaret 33 Samuel 14 Lucy 13 Kathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathydon217 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3404.1.2.2.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: you need to check this out but this is what I found Margaret Raymond Roll Parents-Henry Raymond and Vina Seymour Parents of Henry Joseph Raymond and Esther LaMarque Raymond Census records 1870 Census Indexed as BARNO Champlain Joseph 23 Esther 22 Henry- Apr 1970 1880 Census Indexed as REMO Champlain Joseph Esther Henry 10 Walford 6 Albert 2/12 Samuel 24 Brother 1892 New York State Census Champlain Clinton County Raymond Joseph 44 Esther 44 Henry 21 Wilford 18 Albert 12 Alexander 8 1900 and 1910 Joseph and Esther are still listed _________________________________________________ Death of a child Raymon Joseph D son of Joseph and Esther died 26 Oct 1868 5 mo 8 da Prospect Hill Roman Catholic Champlain, New York ___________________ On Ancestry Search Albert Raymond USA-Vermont There will be a death record for him 26 Sep 1916 I have more Kathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathydon217 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3404.1.2.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found a death for a brother of Henry Raymond on Ancestry so I'll tell you where to find it there. kc Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CEBHoward Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3404.1.2.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yep. I'm in and digging. However, I do not use ancestry as my main point of storage. I use TNG on our private website for our family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathydon217 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3404.1.2.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you have Ancestry?? Kathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathydon217 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3404.1.2.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I posted before I had finished 1930 Alfred Raymond-- Champlain I didn't find Vina. I didn't find Eva in 1920 oe 1930-Perhaps she died after the 1910 or she could have married-She is not listed on Margaret Roll's obit. Henry Raymond seems to have died between 1905 and 1910 Kathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kathydon217 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3404.1.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Here are the census records for Vina in 1900 and 1905 1900 Census NYS Clinton Champlain [indexed as Raymon] Raymon Henry 30 Apr 1870 married 4 years b NY f Can-Fr m Can-Fr Vina wife Feb 1874 26 2 children-2 living Ava dau Aug 1897 George son Aug 1899 ____________________________________________ 1905 New York State Census Clinton Champlain Raymond Henry-35 Machinist Alvina 31 Housework Eva 7 Margaret 3 Albert 11/12 __________________ George-their son-is not listed Probably died between 1900 and 1905. You have the 1910 Census Vina is listed as having 4 children-3 living 1920 census Vina is listed as a maid Alfred is listed as living with his grandmother-Mary Seymour She is indexed as SEMORE Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: CEBHoward Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3404.1.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You rock!! Feel free to check out our site @ www.ivyhurst.com/genealogy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.