Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Board URL: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara?read=78 Surname: SOGGS ------------------------- Could someone tell me how early Niagara County, NY starting recording deaths? I would like to obtain a death certificate for 1902 on one of my ancestors. Thanks - please e-mail me at: betmatrho@aol.com Link: Betty's Master Genealogy Index URL: <http://www.angelfire.com/pe/rcmatteson/index.html>

Genealogy mailing lists are famous for inacurate subject lines. Rather than flaming or nasty attacks you might like to nicely remind people who are "offenders" by sending them the link to a short article about the importance of subject lines, which is at . http://www.epinions.com/cmd-review-191-38F66E8-390DECB2-prod4 Hopefully this will help make the point without offending anyone. :^) your fellow researcher, Susan Susan McMackin Reynolds in Lewes DE, "the first town in the first state" Connect to me & others at the Surname Genealogy Web Project at http://www.PlanetAll.com/main.asp?cid=966275&gid=114084&s=194

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Board URL: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara?read=76 Surname: Osborn, Robinson ------------------------- Looking for information on the family of Luella Osborn Robinson, her father being Truman Osborn. She died 12 July 1940 or there about, in Otsego County, but is buried in Niagara County, where her parents lived. Would like to know which cemetery she is buried in, and the name of her mother. Also, is the cemetery accessible to the public, and how to get to it from the international bridge, coming from Canada. Thanks, Beryl

Is the Niagara County Genealogical Society still at: 2650 Hess. Rd. Appleton NY 14005 Zona@cyberservices.com BADER, Pluto buried in Niagara County; place unknown to me, however there is a website that shows the cemetery with names of the interred listed. Can anyone remember seeing this name on the website? HIMMELSBACH, Jacob

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara?read=75 Surname: Previte, Ciehomski ------------------------- I would appreciate it someone would look up the marraige record of Frank Previte and Betty Ciehomski who married in Niagara Co., NY between 1965 and 1979. Thank you very much for your help! DorleneDiIPaolo

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Board URL: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara?read=74 Surname: STEELE, DELL, HAYWOOD, BUTS ------------------------- I would like any information available on the following surnames that have resided in Niagara County in the late 1800's to early 1900's. Levi DELL, worked on the railroad and lived in Niagara Falls as per census with his wife Charlotte HAYWOOD, and children. One of his daughters was Martha Estella DELL who married Robert Paul PEEL from Ontario. This couple is my husbands grandparents. David STEELE, lived in Niagara then moved to Wayne County NY. His wifes name was Ruth BUTS. His children were born in Niagara, Ephraim STEELE, his son is my great great grandfather. Thanks for your help. Sheila Stratton-Peel Niagara Falls, NY

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Board URL: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara?read=72 Surname: Curtis ------------------------- My grandmother Ruth E. Curtis (nee Kelly) and her husband William Washington Curtis lived in North Tonawanda and Tonawanda for many years before their death. I am looking to obtain a copy of Ruth's death certificate. She died at the Niagara Falls Medical Center. Where would I write to in Niagara Falls to obtain the death certificate? Thanks, Barbara

Dear Cathy, et al, > << A side PS to Vee... have a probate record on one of the several NY > Timothy HOSMERs that I'd like to run by you... to determine "which one" this > one is... Will follow up privately, if you are willing... >> Sure, why not! :-) > 2g. Florence Maria Martha SCHUMAN m Rudolph O H SIECK (1 child) We have some old German Siecks buried in the St. John's Lutheran Church cemetery here in Town of Porter. However, Rudolph and Maria aren't there. > 3. Whilamena KRUEGER b 26 June 1850 in DEU and d 1938 in NY (called Minnie) > + Will ROHRING b 04 Dec 1849 in DEU and d 1954 in Wilson, NY > (m ??? in DEU) > (Had 4 chidren - unsure which in DEU and which in America) No doubt that's the Wilson Rohring family that still lives in the area. >7. Caroline KRUEGER (family says she died 06 Jan 1915) + John GANENTZ? I'll get to the Ganantz family in a minute. >. I know there are multiple burials at NorthRidge Cemetery there in Niagara Co... and have > "some" of the church records from the church there. Need to access more > now.... (and I have SCHMIDTs to write about yet.... also in that same > cemetery...) OK, this is what I'm getting at. You mention burials at North Ridge Cemetery in Town of Cambria And then you mention church records from there. I have a feeling that the cemetery and the church you're talking about is St. Peter's Lutheran Church which is right next to North Ridge Cemetery. Several years ago on a blistering hot day I took a quick look around St. Peter's cemetery and managed to get back into some air conditioning before I passed out. After I got back home, I wrote down some of the family names that I had noted on the tombstones. Among them where, in order of writing them down, of the names you mentioned there were Hillman, Ganantz, Schmidt and Krueger. By the way, there are also Haussman graves there but they're not my family--they're from Mecklenburg, Germany, where most of the local Germans came from. However, the local family agreed to adopt my sister and I about 10 years ago when we felt that we needed a Haussmann family nearby! Maybe you could let the list know how to obtain records from the St. Peter's church. I hesitate to call the pastor and the church is a full 20 minutes drive when where I live. :-) Hey, it's in Town of Cambria and I"m in Town of Porter. vee

Dear Sara, et al, > I'm looking for the parents or siblings of Arnold Stevens and Charlotte > McLaughlin who married and lived in Niagara Co, NY ca 1835-1855--probably > earlier. > > I've been told Arnold (and Charlotte) were listed in the 1850 census as > "Earle" but I don't have access to NY records so haven't been able to confirm. > Also that he purchased Lot #30 in Youngstown NY on Oct 22, 1843 for $150 > and sold it to Peter Tower on Mar 5, 1855 for $600. Also sold 1/2 of lot > #32 in 4th range in Youngstown of Sept 16, 1854 for $300. He was a carpenter. Yes, he ("Earle") and Charlotte are on the Town of Porter 1850 census (no doubt Village of Youngstown) as follows: Earle, 42, VT, Carpenter Charlotte, 32 [born 1818], NY Wesley A., 9, NY Erial, 8, NY Eleanor [?], 1, NY In the same household was the family of William H. Doyle, 43, Canada, merchant, and his wife Sarah F., 38, VT, with their children. Sarah COULD have been Earle/Arnold's sister. > Charlotte McLaughlin Stevens died in Niagara Co (probably Youngstown) in > 1855 and was buried there with other infant children who died young. Have > no idea what cemetery. My cemetery records don't show her and no official records, Youngstown or Town of Porter, would now have a record of her death. > After Charlotte McLaughlin Stevens died in 1855, Arnold Stevens moved to > Knox Co, OH where other relatives lived. Census records there show he was > born in VT in 1806. So I know he started out in VT, moved to Niagara Co > (around > Youngstown, I think), married and had several children, and left for OH > ca 1855 where he lived with an Edward Beach, also from NY. The Beach name isn't a Town of Porter name. I have a feeling that it's more Town of Cambria. > An infant daughter, Ida Stevens, stayed in NY to be raised by relatives, > married an Anderson and had sons Frank Anderson and William Anderson. I have no record of her or her Anderson sons. > Any links to this couple or information about Stevens/Stephens or McLaughlin > families living in Niagara Co, NY during this period will be MOST appreciated > as this is a major brick wall for me!! Regarding MCLAUGHLIN, we had two McLaughlin families living in Town of Porter early on. They were John F. and Ephraim, both farmers. In fact part of the land that I presently own on Creek Road (Lot 25) was purchased by John from the Holland Land Co. He finally obtained the deed to the property on 11 March 1837. He had purchased 91 acres. Pool's "Landmarks of Niagara Co." states that John settled in the town in 1815 and came over from Canada. He and his brother(?) Ephraim lived in this area and were members of the Board of Trustees of School District No. 3--John from 1824-1852, and Ephraim from 1838-1850. John and family show up on the 1820 census. He was over 45 [born prior to 1775] and in his household was a female under the age of 10 [born 1811-1820]. On the 1830 census John is age 60-70 [born 1761-1770] and there is a female age 10-15 [born 1816-1820]. On the 1840 census is both John and Ephraim. John is now only 30-40 years old [born1801-1810]. He's probably John Jr. and he shows up on earlier census in an appropriate age group. Ephraim is 70-80 [born 1761-1770]. There is no Stevens/Stephens family on the 1840 census. In the 1850 census there are both John Jr. and Ephraim who is now only 37 [born 1813], probably Ephraim, Jr. Both John Jr. and Ephraim Jr. were born in Canada. I find no records of the burials of John and Ephraim, Sr. Sara, since there is evidence that your Charlotte McLaughlin may have been the daughter of John who came here from Canada, that would be the best place for you to look. Once again, the migration pattern repeats itself. From New England to Canada to Niagara County and then further west. Good luck in your research. vee

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Board URL: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara?read=71 Surname: PISTNER ------------------------- Seeking family members of Pistner Family who settled in Buffalo, NY area Any & all info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Board URL: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara?read=69 Surname: Weidert ------------------------- Seeking Family members of the Weidert Family who settled in Buffalo NY area. Any and all info would be greatly appreciated. Thank You in advance.

Looking for descendants of Eli Weed and Mary Firth who were married about 1854 in Niagara County. I know of one child, Fellows Firth Weed born 13 June 1855 near Lockport. Fellows is said to have married Ella F. and have had at least one child named Edmund E. Weed born in Oct 1877. I will be very grateful to anyone who can help me learn more about this family.

This is an urgent call to all those lost lines out there. A project of updating THE SWARTWOUT CHRONICLES is is full gear. If you have them in your line and lost the link. Even better their lines left out of the Original Chronicles, please submit them for the Updated version. There is no author as we all take credit for each of our own lines. Come on folks, it won't cost a penny and you could help someone find their roots. Just send in you lines and you get all the credit for it. Also LABOR DAY WEEKEND IS REUNION TIME!!!!! And this year is a real biggy! It will be held in Geneva, New York. Why is it so important? As of the year 2002 the Swartwout family will have been in North America 350 years. A big head count t the reunion will guarntee us of a place in history, by the Swartwout name getting honourable mention in the Sentate and put into the minutes. We have a lot to lose by not showing up. Kathy Hoeldke kathyhoeldke@sympatico.ca

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Board URL: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara?read=68 Surname: kneeppel, schultz, Grose ------------------------- kneeppel,grose or schultz from the Niagara county Ransomville, Lewiston lockport areas

Hello everyone... first PRATT, then HOSMER.. and I "still" have more family groupings in Niagara Co, NY! (what the heck am I doing living in northern California??) <g> << A side PS to Vee... have a probate record on one of the several NY Timothy HOSMERs that I'd like to run by you... to determine "which one" this one is... Will follow up privately, if you are willing... >> Well, here goes... this time my KRUEGER family.. maybe someone will recognize someone... Note that most of the information for the first three children is from "family papers". I have more specifics (and sources) on child four (Maria W KRUEGER) in my direct line. Then back to family information on the remaining four children. Family says the parents of these KRUEGERs are: Christian Friederick Carl KRUEGER b 23 Apr 1824 in DEU m to Sophia HILLMAN b ?? in DEU Their children: 1. "Fred" KRUEGER b ?? in DEU and d ??? + Caroline HILLMAN b ??? in ??? and d ??? (m ??? when/where) (1 child identified so far: Mary KRUEGER (1880 - 1948) who m John KOEPPEN (1876 - 1959) .. each born where? ... both died in Niagara Co, NY. They had 4 children...) 2. Johanna Ernestine Caroline Wilhelmine KRUEGER b 20 Apr 1853 in Schmarsow, DEU and d 1934 in Wilson, NY + Johann Frederick Ernst SCHUMAN b 25 May 1849 in ??, Demmin, DEU and d 1938 in Wilson, NY (m ??? in DEU) (Had 2 chldren in DEU - Martha and Max, then 5 children in Wilson, NY) Their children: (born 1876 through 1896) 2a. Martha SCHUMAN m Harman BRANDT (? children) 2b. Max SCHUMAN m Clara ISRAEL (2 children) 2c. Amil SCHUMAN m Mary Katherine DREWES (2 children) 2d. Herbert SCHUMAN m Gertrude BEUTEL (1 child) 2e. Wilhelm Rudolph Carl SCHUMAN ??? (? children) 2f. Edward Charles SCHUMAN m Gertrude DREWES (2 children) 2g. Florence Maria Martha SCHUMAN m Rudolph O H SIECK (1 child) 3. Whilamena KRUEGER b 26 June 1850 in DEU and d 1938 in NY (called Minnie) + Will ROHRING b 04 Dec 1849 in DEU and d 1954 in Wilson, NY (m ??? in DEU) (Had 4 chidren - unsure which in DEU and which in America) Their children: (born 1874 - 1979) 3a. Minnie ROHRING m Ben STONE (1 child) 3b. Emma Fredrika Johanna ROHRING m LeRoy BAKER (?? children) 3c. Lizzie ROHRING m Chuck WILSON (2 children) 3d. Ida Sophie Amanda ROHRING m Seymour EREON (?? children) *** 4. Maria W KRUEGER b 31 May 1859 in Azelshof, Prussia (this is what local NY church records say.. after searching.. this "may" be a village in what was Mecklenburg-Schwerin Duchy of DEU?) and d 1944 in CT + Ernst WITT b 08 Oct 1854 in Gross Buetzin, Mecklenburg-Schwerin, DEU and d 1928 in Buffalo, Erie Co, NY (m ??? in ???) (They had 4 children - all born in Buffalo, NY) Their children: (born 1885 - 1899) 4a. Edward WITT m Edna Mabel FIX (3 children) 4b. Emil WITT m Georgina MILLER (1 child) 4c. Clara L WITT m William M EBERHARDT (1 child) 4d. Nora Anna Whilamena WITT m James Henry HASTINGS (5 children) (moved to CT...) 5. Charles KRUEGER + Emma BOSENBERG? 6. William KRUEGER + Minnie HORANBURG? 7. Caroline KRUEGER (family says she died 06 Jan 1915) + John GANENTZ? 7. Riaka KRUEGER + Unknown OTTO? Just got these Schuman names.. and some of the additional Krueger ones.. have only looked at Ernst WITT and Mary KRUEGER... so am now expanding to the siblings... and have to "begin again"... from census on. I know there are multiple burials at NorthRidge Cemetery there in Niagara Co... and have "some" of the church records from the church there. Need to access more now.... (and I have SCHMIDTs to write about yet.... also in that same cemetery...) Anyone recognize anyone? (note again that most of this is "to be investigated" at this point.... from the NY family papers sent to me...) debbie CAhobbies@aol.com

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Board URL: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara?read=67 Surname: Stevens ------------------------- Looking for infromation on David Stevens, born Nov 16,1777 in Wilson Ny Niagria co. We know that he had 9 brothers and sisters. David was the first, would like to know the names of his other siblings. Parent were Adam Stevens Polly Crossman.

Searching for connections to Royal Edwin WHITNEY, d. Lockport, NY. B. 1828 Lisbon, St. Lawrence Co., NY m. Martha P. WILCOX. Children: Laura Billicent m. Frank VAN NORWICK. Russell Truman b. 1854 never married; Horace Martin b.1856 (GGrandfather) m. Emma Lucretia QUAY; Harry Edwin, b. 1860 m. Grace STAMP; and J. Carle b. 1875 m. Mary Belle TUCKER. J. Carle and Mary (Mae) Belle moved to Rochester, but are buried in Cold Springs Cem., Lockport. I have b/w photos and headstone rubbings, will share with relatives. Sherrill Life is what you make of it!

I really appreciate this discussion of books and thank you so much Ellen! Here in VA we don't have much on NY county or regional history so this helps me to know what to even ask for from an interlibrary loan!! Sara Stevens Patton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Keyne Seebacher" <elle@pobox.com> To: <NYNIAGAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 3:35 AM Subject: Re: Local History Books > Debbie suggests we talk about books, and mentions a few: > > > thought I'd throw them out and see if any of you know of them.. and > > can comment on their value to you... > > >> Niagara County by Edward T. Williams. 850 pgs. 2 volumes. 1921. > > Williams, Edward Theodore (b. 1868). _Niagara County, New York: > a concise record of her progress and people, 1821-1921, published > during its centennial year._ Chicago: J.H. Beers & company, > 1921. (2 v. front., plates, ports. 28 cm. Paged continuously.) > Contents: I. Historical. II. Biographical. [F127.N5W7] > > This is one of the books I found in the University of Chicago Library > stacks, lo, these many years ago! It's informative, and helpful in an > old-local-history sort of way -- lots of detail piled on in no particular > order. :) > > > Here are some of the other books I pulled from the stacks years ago > when I was first doing Niagara County research. All were reasonably > helpful, though none stands out in my mind: > > Turner, Orsamus. _Pioneer history of the Holland Purchase of > western New York: embracing some account of the ancient remains, > and a history of pioneer settlement under the auspices of the > Holland Company; including reminiscences of the War of 1812; the > origin, progress and completion of the Erie Canal, etc., etc., > etc._ Buffalo: Jewett, Thomas & Co., 1850. (670 p., [19] p. of > plates: ill., maps ; 24 cm. Includes index.) [F127.H7T9] > > (The Holland Purchase covered what's now Erie, Chautauqua, Cattaraugus and > Niagara counties, and parts of Genesee, Allegany, Wyoming and Orleans. > It was extremely important to the history of the county, and is a subject > for required reading if you have any early settlers.) > > Horton, John Theodore; Edward Theodore Williams (b. 1868); Harry > Stevens Douglass (1909-). _History of northwestern New York: > Erie, Niagara, Wyoming, Genesee and Orleans Counties_. New York: > Lewis Historical Pub. Co., 1947. (3 v. illus., ports., maps. > 28 cm.) Vol. 3: Personal and family history. "Notes and > authorities": p. v. 1, p. [445]-489. [F119.H8] > > Loker, Donald E., compiler. _News of the day -- yesterday_. > (Drawings by Barbara Whitman Torrence; preface by John and Michael > Walsh.) Lockport, NY: Niagara County Historical Society, 1971. > (xi, 94 p. illus. 26 cm.) Series: "Occasional contributions of > the Niagara County Historical Society", number 20. [F127.N5L83] > > > It's hard to understand Niagara County history without covering the > history and geography of the Falls. Books on that subject include > George W. Holley's 1872 _Niagara, its history & geology, incidents & > poetry_, and G.K. Gilbert's 1895 National Geographic Society monograph > _Niagara Falls and their history_, though I'd be surprised if there > weren't *much* more recent works available. > > Other subjects I'd recommend delving into include: the Erie Canal; > Canadian settlement patterns; the War of 1812, particularly the 1814 > Battle of Lundy's Lane (also known as "the Battle of Niagara Falls"; > there are a number of books just on that one battle!). I can dig up > titles if necessary, though you can probably find 'em with Bibliofind > or a similar service too. > > > While I'm thinking about it, I've just run across a listing for this: > > Good Beginnings Inc. "A map of Niagara County, NY: includes maps > of Lockport, the Tonawandas, and Niagara Falls: map & guide." > Rochester, NY: New York Media Communications, Consultants, Inc., > c1986. (Scales differ. 4 maps on 1 sheet: both sides, col.; > 66 x 55 cm. or smaller, sheet 101 x 71 cm., folded to 21 x 10 cm. > Includes text, indexes, and advertisements.) [G3803.N5 1986 .G60] > > Contents: Niagara County and inset maps -- Niagara Falls -- The > Tonawandas -- Lockport. County map insets: Youngstown -- Map of > Wilson -- Map of Newfane -- Map of Barker -- Map of Gasport -- Map > of Middleport. > > Vee, or other locals: do you know if this map is still for sale in > Niagara County? > > -- > Ellen Keyne Seebacher elle@pobox.com > > > ==== NYNIAGAR Mailing List ==== > Need a break from that maddening brick wall? Visit RootsWeb's > new Communities, at <http://communities.rootsweb.com/>, to find > other interest lists you'll love! > >

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara?read=66 Surname: Stevens, McLaughlin ------------------------- I'm looking for the parents or siblings of Arnold Stevens and Charlotte McLaughlin who married and lived in Niagara Co, NY ca 1835-1855--probably earlier. I've been told Arnold (and Charlotte) were listed in the 1850 census as "Earle" but I don't have access to NY records so haven't been able to confirm. Also that he purchased Lot #30 in Youngstown NY on Oct 22, 1843 for $150 and sold it to Peter Tower on Mar 5, 1855 for $600. Also sold 1/2 of lot #32 in 4th range in Youngstown of Sept 16, 1854 for $300. He was a carpenter. Charlotte McLaughlin Stevens died in Niagara Co (probably Youngstown) in 1855 and was buried there with other infant children who died young. Have no idea what cemetery. After Charlotte McLaughlin Stevens died in 1855, Arnold Stevens moved to Knox Co, OH where other relatives lived. Census records there show he was born in VT in 1806. So I know he started out in VT, moved to Niagara Co (around Youngstown, I think), married and had several children, and left for OH ca 1855 where he lived with an Edward Beach, also from NY. An infant daughter, Ida Stevens, stayed in NY to be raised by relatives, married an Anderson and had sons Frank Anderson and William Anderson. Children of this couple were: Wesley Erial Elinor Ida Any links to this couple or information about Stevens/Stephens or McLaughlin families living in Niagara Co, NY during this period will be MOST appreciated as this is a major brick wall for me!! Thanks! Sara Patton

Debbie, Ellen and all, I'm so glad that both of you spent the time and effort to update our list with your findings. Debbie, you left me breathless when you said that an original 1897 copy of "Landmarks . . ." is for sale for $350! I have one of the original editions and that's what I have been quoting from!! It was actually GIVEN to me by a member of our historical society only because he felt that it MIGHT interest me!! Regarding Turner's "Pioneer History of the Holland Purchase of Western New York" in the paperback version, today I called my dear friend Pete, owner of The Book Corner in Niagara Falls, to check on its price and availability. Even though it was reprinted in 1974, it is now out of print and unavailable. Regarding "History of Northwestern New York" by Horton, Williams and Douglas, I have the three volume set that was publishedin 1947. Frankly, again, I'm embarrassed to admit that I haven't carefully studied the historical aspect of it, but I do know that Volume III contains genealogy of the families that were/are located here in the '40s. In fact, it kinda makes me giggle when I see that it lists some of their children who I went to school with and who I still keep in touch with. Regarding Donald Loker and his "News of the Day," Oh Lordy, Don is such a sweetheart!! He's a member of our Town of Porter Historical Society and on a monthly basis he brings to our meetings clippings out of old newspapers that have to do with our area. That's what I base our monthly newletter on--I'm the editor of the newsletter. Check out the Niagara GenWeb site regarding the latest April edition of the newsletter at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyniagar/extras/portnews.htm I hope that I will be able to send Ellen the missing editions of the newsletters so that she can post them all to the site. Don has also written other books and as Ellen suspects, other books have also been written--hot off the press at this moment--about the history of this area. If any of you are interested in books on any particular aspect of Niagara County history--Niagara Falls, Dare Devils, geology, Love Canal, whatever--just let me know and I'll call good old Pete and ask him what is available. And on a modest note, if any of you are interested in a book of stories about the history of the Town of Porter written for fourth grade students, entitled, "It Happened Just Down the Road," just let me know. I wrote the book! The local school teachers use it to teach the kids about local history. It covers stories about the French and Indian War, to the War of 1812 to the Gold Rush of 1849, to the Civil War and to the "present day" of 1912 in the Town of Porter. After all, from where I sit at the moment, all of the history of our area happened "just down the road." vee