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    1. John Noble - Biographical Sketch
    2. John Noble
    3. Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Biographies Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/NiagaraBios/2 Surname: Noble, Carnall, Jones, Cornie, Scofield ------------------------- (The following is from the Biographical & Portrait Cyclopedia of Niagara County Gregham Publishing 1892, pages 249 & 250) John Noble. It has been truly said that Death has at all times to claim his own, but never more unexpected was any ofhis calls than when he suddenly summoned John Noble from the scene of his labors in Lockport, October 25, 1890. He was born in Bampshire, in the north of Scotland, June 5, 1841, and received his education in the Scottish schools of that day. As a boy he was remarkable for his pluck and energy, and at an early age learned the trade of baker, which he followed until 1866, when he came to Lockport, where he purchased Charles Carnall's bakery on Cottage street. With his accustomed energy he soon built up the extensive and prosperous business which he was conducting at the time of his sudden and unexpected death in 1890. He was a member of Lockport Council, No. 307, Royal Arcanum, Columbia Lodge, No. 20, Ancient Order of United Workmen, and the Knights of Honor, and the Royal Templars. At the time of his death he left two brothers, William and Alexander, and two sisters, Mrs. David Jones and Mrs. James Cornie. On June 13, 1877, Mr. Noble married Libbie M. Scofield. To Mr. and Mrs. Noble were born five children, three sons and two daughters: John Horace, Edith May, Albert Garfield, Libbie Scofield, And Raymond Myers. Mrs. Noble is a pleasant and amiable lady, and resides in the handsom brick residence on Chestnut street, which was erected by Mr. Noble in 1884. She is a member of the Presbyterian Church, in which she is never neglectful of any movement for the good of religion or the moral improvement of the community. She is a daughter of John D. Scofield of Huddersfield, England and E. Myers. John Noble was physically very strong, and could do the work of two ordinary men. He was apparntly in the best of health when, on the evening of October 25, 1890, he walked into his Pine street store, where he fell suddenlt dead while conversing with a lady customer. The post-mortem examination revealed that he suffered from hyperthropy, or enlargement of the heart, and the sudden bursting of one of the large blood vessels of the left auricle had caused his death. His remains were placed in a beautiful casket in his parlor, where hunreds of citizens and freind of the family came to view all that was motal of stout, honest, and warm-hearted John Noble. The different organizations of which he was a member attended in a body the funeral, which was held on Tuesday, October 28, 1890, at two o'clock, at the family residence on Chestnut street, after which the remains were interred in Glenwood cemetery.   The Lockport Journal, speaking of Mr. Noble's sudden death, said: " The city loses, in the death of John Noble, one of its foremost and progressive citizens. In both public and private walks of life he was an indomitable worker. A jovial, pleasant man his society always lent a pleasure to every gathering. In his home life he was greatly beloved. His success in business and other enterprises, as well as his death, was due to his great capacity for work. He was an earnest christian, and a member and trustee of East avenue Congregational Church, which organization has one of its founders and strongest pillars. In good and charitable deeds he was foremost, and many remember, with tears and sorrow, to-day, the kind heart of John Noble in their troubles." Popular, generous, ans sympathetic, he had won a large circle of friends and admirers, when the Master's summons came so swiftly and unexpectedly to call him, in the very prime of life, from the field of his active and useful labors. Link: Noble & Stirk URL: <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nobleone/>

    08/31/2000 01:20:02
    1. Death Notice - Agnes Craig Watt
    2. John Noble
    3. Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Obituaries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/NiagaraObits/21 Surname: Watt, Craig, Cady, Wright, Meahl, Robinson ------------------------- Lockport Union-Sun & Journal August 13, 1914 Page 3; Column 4 Agnes Craig Watt, Wife of Robert Watt, died at her home, No. 438 West avenue, on Wednesday evening, August 12, 1914. She is survived her husband, five sons, Alexander of Fairport, N.Y., Richard of Council, Idaho, Thomas of Newcastle, Scotland; James and William Watt of Lockport; also four daughters, Mrs. Euphemia Cady of Cambria; Mrs. Charles Wright, Mrs. George Meahl and Mrs. Arthur Robinson of this city; eleven grandchildren and five great grandchildren. The funeral services will be held from her late home on Saturday afternoon, August 15, 1914, at 2 o'clock. Interment will be in Glenwood Cemetery. Link: Noble & Stirk URL: <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nobleone/>

    08/30/2000 10:36:24
    1. Re: Vee Housman
    2. Vee L. Housman
    3. Dear Ed, Thanks for posting such a lovely message to the list. I'm still having difficulty recovering from my surgery, but what keeps me going is the encouragement I receive from such people as you and the people on the list. You and I have spent long years in the research of our family history and I guess that both of us realize that there is more to understanding our families than what happened several hundred of years ago. After all, part of our family history includes our own memories of hollyhocks by the outhouse or even remembering how torturous it was to make the trek out there on a cold winter's night!! (OK, so Great Aunt Annie Bowers always had the thunder mug/chamber pot under the bed!) Hey, did you ever come upon your Grandpa or Uncle John spending time all by himself sitting on the stoop of the chicken coop having a conversation with the chickens in the yard? Or, for that matter, have you ever really listened to chickens? You know, they don't just go "cluck, cluck" all the time. I've always been a "city girl" but I think that the chickens and I could have quite an interesting conversation around this time in my life. Chickens have quite a vocabulary, you know! And I guess Grandpa and Uncle John knew that too. Yes, at our age we realize it's time to smell the roses or remember how to make hollyhock dolls, but at the same time, we also realize that it's important to let the kids in on a bit of our own memories. Or, hey, just to compare memories with each other. Those were the days, my friends! Yes, they were the days of the Depression and a number of wars that followed. Trust me, both Ed and I remember everything what went on in between then and now. But what sooths us now is remembering the sweet innocent years of our childhood instead of our dwelling on our 30+ years of our life-long careers. Thanks Ed for encouraging me to write this message. vee

    08/30/2000 05:19:32
    1. Death Notice - James Watt
    2. John Noble
    3. Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Obituaries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/NiagaraObits/19 Surname: Watt, Eley, Meahl, Robinson ------------------------- Lockport Union-Sun & Journal June 23, 1936 page 2; column 7 James Watt died at his home, Saunders Settlement road, Monday, June 22, 1936. He is survived by his wife, May (nee Eley), two brothers, two sisters, Thomas Watt of Newcasle, Eng., Mrs. George Meahl and Mrs. Arthur E. Robinson of this city, William F. Watt of town of Lockport. Funeral services at his late residence Wednesday, afternoon, June 24, at 3 o'clock. Burial in Glenwood cemetery. Link: Noble & Stirk URL: <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nobleone/>

    08/30/2000 01:50:55
    1. Death Notice - Robert Watt
    2. John Noble
    3. Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Obituaries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/NiagaraObits/18 Surname: Watt, Cady, Wright, Meahl, Robinson ------------------------- Lockport Union-Sun & Journal September 5, 1919 Page 6; Column 5 Robert Watt died at the home of his daughter, Mrs. George V. Meahl on S. Transit Street, Thursday afternoon, Sept. 4, 1919, aged 92 years. He is survived by four daughters and four sons, Richard Watt of Weiser, Idaho, Thomas Watt of England, Mrs. Euphemia Cady of Sanborn, N.Y., Mrs. Charles Wright, Mrs. George V. Meahl, Mrs. Arthur E. Robinson. James Watt and William Watt all of this city. Funeral services will be held from the home of Mrs. George V. Meahl, Sunday, Sept. 7th, at 3:30 o'clock. Interment in Glenwood cemetery. Flowers gratefully declined. Link: Noble & Stirk URL: <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~nobleone/>

    08/30/2000 01:47:25
    1. Vee Housman
    2. Edmund F Grefrath
    3. List I just want to add my name to those who enjoy Vee's musings, remembrances, etc. I suppose it's because I'm 67 years old and even though I was raised ina German community in Missouri, I can identify with her time reference. I just finished reading about the "hollyhocks". We didn't make any dolls, after all I was a "boy", but I too have fond memories of the hollyhock volunteers that grew up in our massive yard, especially near the "little house in the back". My genealogical research is confined to Germany, once I break the boundaries of Missouri. I've thoroughly enjoyed my 25 years of research and after spending 30+ years with IBM, I am learning to "smell the roses ...(hollyhowks)...again. To a large extent I owe that to courageous people like Vee who aren't afraid to cast their bread upon the waters. I'm glad she is recovering. Take care, Ed Grefrath

    08/30/2000 08:15:22
    1. Fw: Returned mail: User unknown Vee HOUSMAN
    2. zona patton
    3. This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_309f.3f16.5a40 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is for Vee and I don't know why it came back to me user unknown. Zona --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <postoffice@staff.juno.com> To: <zona.himmelsbach@juno.com> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:31:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Message-ID: <200008301731.EAAAA29994@r1.jersey.juno.com> The original message was received at Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:01:39 -0400 (EDT) from m9.jersey.juno.com [64.136.16.72] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <housman@adelphia.net> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mx.dc1.adelphia.net.: >>> RCPT To:<housman@adelphia.net> <<< 550 <housman@adelphia.net>... User unknown 550 <housman@adelphia.net>... User unknown ----__JNP_000_309f.3f16.5a40 Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; r1.jersey.juno.com Arrival-Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; housman@adelphia.net Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; mx.dc1.adelphia.net Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 <housman@adelphia.net>... User unknown Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:30:59 -0400 (EDT) ----__JNP_000_309f.3f16.5a40 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: zona patton <zona.himmelsbach@juno.com> To: housman@adelphia.net Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:39:39 -0700 Subject: Re: German POWs Message-ID: <20000829.134640.-350897.2.zona.himmelsbach@juno.com> Received: from m9.jersey.juno.com (m9.jersey.juno.com [64.136.16.72]) by r1.jersey.juno.com (8.8.6.Beta0/8.8.7/juno-1.2) with ESMTP id RAAAA27927 for <housman@adelphia.net>; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"Tf5TKwhyXSna5GXWX5ckbkdAAavPT8tutzXpNpfdYabKnmjhnAdWsBgc3z6pk+CK"> Received: (from zona.himmelsbach@juno.com) by m9.jersey.juno.com (queuemail) id FGNVZGMG; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:01:19 EDT X-Mailer: Juno 3.0.13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: <zona.himmelsbach@juno.com> Vee, Thank you for sharing that most interesting local history on the German prisoners of war sent to you by Jane Richardson. Zona ----__JNP_000_309f.3f16.5a40--

    08/30/2000 06:15:42
    1. Oakwood Cemetery
    2. Robert & Rose Matthews
    3. HALLELULJAH!!!!!! I just called "Linnea" at Oakwood Cemetery. This woman is REMARKABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She looked up ,as we talked, all the Moore's buried there. Then I , just for the heck of it, mentioned the surname my father was born with (and his one full sister.) Without missing a beat, she said, "Oh, yeah.....I've got them here." Within a five minute period she read to me from "the book" all the missing links in my fathers family. I sit here shaking with anticipation of seeing my aunts and grandfathers grave. HALLELULJAH!!!!!! Rose

    08/30/2000 04:49:05
    1. Irene Florence Anne Mallette
    2. Tom Johnson
    3. Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara/256 Surname: Mallette, Ingham ------------------------- I am searching for information regarding my wife's family. Her Mother, Florence Irene Anne Mallette was born in Niagara Falls, NY, b 1919. Her parents, caming from Ireland, were Alfred Mallette and Florence Smith. Irene married Harold Joseph Ingham, from Buffalo, and moved to Ohio. Thank You, Tom Johnson

    08/30/2000 04:09:41
    1. Oakwood Cemetery contact
    2. Elsa Vorwerk & Bill Wood
    3. It's "Linnea" at Oakwood Cemetery. The office is usually open weekdays from 9 am to 4 pm, and the phone number is 716-284-5131. If you call and tell her who you are looking for, she will check her books and fax you what information she has, possibly including age, parents, birthplace, marital status, town of residence, date of burial, lot & grave id, funeral director. Of course, she may have very little of this information in her records, but she'll let you know what she has, and a plat of burial locations. And of course, when you're in town, it's great to stop by and see her! Elsa in Allegany County, Maryland

    08/30/2000 03:13:12
    1. Re: Niagara County, New York book
    2. D. Sue Kissel
    3. The book is listed on the catalog of Mid-Continent Public Library Catalog - http://opac.mcpl.lib.mo.us and appears to be available for inter library loan Sue Kissel ----- Original Message ----- From: <LyndaSP1@aol.com> To: <NYNIAGAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 9:09 PM Subject: Niagara County, New York book > Niagara County, New York, one hundred of the most wonderful regions in the > world microform : a concise record of her progress and people, 1821-1921, > published during its centennial year / written by a native, the son of > natives, and the grandson of pioneer > > Sounds like a great book. I wonder if I can get it on loan in California. > My ggg grandfather, John McCollum lived in Lewiston, NY. but I cannot seem to > find out anything about his parents. > > Thanks for letting me know. Linda > > > ==== NYNIAGAR Mailing List ==== > Were your ancestors in Niagara County by 1860? You might find their > names at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyniagar/extras/1860.html>, > transcribed from 1860 county maps! > >

    08/30/2000 01:57:55
    1. F& G RC Cemetery
    2. zona patton
    3. I'm off to the LDS FCH facility to lookup: SCHAUMLO(e)FFEL KUSCHEL SCHERBER SINCLAIN DAVIS BRIGGS NEASE FERREN KIMBALL QUIDER DUNBAR BERNER VANAMBURG/VANAMBERG MOORE WILKINSON PFOHL As I'll be going through the film very slowly these names may take the next 4 weeks, but I'll try to go through it c sooner.

    08/30/2000 01:49:09
    1. German & French RC Cemetery
    2. zona patton
    3. I'll take 2 more Surnames to look up for the next 2 people who write in. Zona

    08/30/2000 12:41:37
    1. one man's War of 1812 in Niagara
    2. R. Kyser
    3. For those of you who are interested in Niagara County's 1812 history, this concerns a couple of fellows who never lived in Niagara, but almost died there. The following is written by Gerald Piechocki, whose wife Dottie, like me, descends from Noah. (His sources for this were mainly Noah's pension file and David Nevin's "1812".) Cheers, Ron Kyser Noah Howe Austin, born 1794, was 17 years of age when he and his friend Alexander McIntyre enlisted in Captain Brown’s company of New York militia in April 1812, at Canandaigua, NY. After a very brief period of training, the militia marched to Lewiston, NY, on the Niagara River, where it joined with other militia regiments and regular troops of the Army under the command of Gen. Solomon Van Rensselaer. Noah was about to take part in the first battle of the War of 1812. The overall plan of this battle was to be a prelude to the invasion of Canada. The U.S. forces would board boats and row across the Niagara River from Lewiston, five miles below the great falls, to Queenston, on the Canadian side. The two hundred-and-fifty-yard distance and the roaring current were difficult enough, but the Canadian side was practically a sheer cliff defended by cannon and several companies of the "Forty-Ninth Foot", crack British troops. For this reason, the first wave of Americans to cross would attack at night, using volunteers, as casualties would be heavy and surprise necessary. Noah Austin and Alexander McIntyre both volunteered to be part of this first group. It had rained most of the night, but by 3:00 AM on the 13th of October, the rain had stopped and the boats were launched. Things went badly as boats ran into each other, oars splintered, and soldiers shouted and cursed. The British could hardly miss the noise, and the element of surprise was lost. As the boats reached the halfway point, the British began to fire down upon them with grapeshot from the cannon on the far cliff. For the next forty-five minutes the Americans had to endure the hailstorm of bullets and grapeshot from enemy guns as they struggled to row against the strong current. As predicted, the casualties were mounting as the volunteers sat unprotected from the lead fired down upon them. Just as Noah’s boat was about to reach shore, another blast from the cannon and volleys from the troops above raked over the boat. One shot struck Noah in the face, entering under his left eye and burrowing deeply into his head. While his comrades climbed the cliffs to capture the cannon, Noah lay wounded in the boat. Whether he was able to climb ashore or was sent back across with the other wounded, the records don’t say. What we do know is that the battle went on for the entire day with the Canadian town of Queenston being captured and then lost again with heavy casualties. Noah survived his wound but carried the iron ball in the roof of his mouth for the next 59 years, enduring constant pain and suffering. It did not, however, prevent him from marrying Ursula Freeman, fathering twelve children, and farming. His old friend Alexander became a doctor, treating Noah for many years. His affidavit helped Noah obtain a military pension for partial disability. Noah and his family eventually moved from New York to Indiana, where he continued farming. Eventually the shot that caused him so much pain throughout his life brought him infection and a high fever. The ball, having finally destroyed the surrounding bone, broke through the roof of his mouth and he was able to remove it, just days before he succumbed to the fever at age 77. Noah’s wife Ursula lived till 1883, passing in her 83rd year. She and Noah are buried in LaGrange Co., IN. Their daughter Mary Jane married Alanson Youngs in 1857 and moved to Saranac, Michigan. Their son John, who in 1871 married Mary Sarah Youngs, the daughter of Alanson’s brother George, lived nearby his sister in Saranac.

    08/29/2000 07:53:45
    1. Re: Hollyhock Dolls
    2. Patty Champion Sanderlin
    3. Hi Vee and All, When we were little, my grandfather used to make us Hollyhock Dolls, I have often wished in this rushed world we live in now, that I could be the Grandparent that mine were to me. Epically my Grandfather, There were 4 of us, and with the 3 of us younger ones being just 3 years apart we gave our mother a run for her money. Grandpa was always doing something special to keep us busy and out of her hair. He lived in an apartment next to our house, there was only a driveway separating his second floor porch and our back yard. If we were real good, (and sometimes when we weren't) he would make up little bags of gingersnaps and add a parachute and drop them off his porch to us. Oh how excited we would get watching them float down and ALWAYS land in our yard, Because if they didn't they would be on the other side of the fence. Grandpa never knew I didn't like ginger snaps. Patty Champion Sanderlin Wilson, Niagara Co. NY searching: Armstrong, Campbell, Champion, Curnow, Freeman, Maynard, Meek, Morcom, Richards, Russell, Taylor and Wass ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vee L. Housman" <housman@adelphia.net> To: <NYNIAGAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 4:00 PM Subject: Hollyhock Dolls > Dear Group, > > Well, I suppose you now realize that you have encouraged me to write down > some more history. Granted it's in the form of memories again but just > picture your mother or grandmother enjoying hollyhock dolls as much as I did > as a kid in the 1930s. Here in the Town of Porter, I still see hollyhocks > growing. > > Now, maybe some of you might not even know what hollyhocks are and that you > may not have even seen them. Well, just in case, this is what I remember > about them. I don't recall that I have ever seen hollyhocks growing in > someone's flower garden. I kinda remember that they generally grew up > against fences or in the back of someone's scruffy yard. I have the feeling > that they had always been there. > > But there they were, growing up very tall, around five feet or so. And when > they came into blossom there were two parts of the blossoms that fascinated > us kids-the fully bloomed large blossom and the bud that the was coming into > blossom. What we did was to pick the big pretty blossom and made certain > that it still had its long stem (about 1/2 inch) attached. Then we picked > the bud that was only beginning to show some petals. And that's when we put > together the pieces of our hollyhock dolls. > > What you do first is take the bud and carefully peel away the little green > leaves from the base of it. And when you do, you'll notice that the white > base of it has a number of holes in it. What you do is take the big pretty > blossom and carefully insert its stem into one of the holes in the bud. And > what you then see is a beautiful flower girl with a beautiful full skirt and > what with the holes in the bud you see her eyes and then, to top it off, > there she is with a beautiful tall hat on top of her head of smaller flower > petals. And then you continue to do that with different colored hollyhock > blossoms and then line them all up on your porch railing or on your steps or > wherever you are at the time and you marvel at the beauty of your hollyhock > dolls. Scarlet O'Hara never looked as beautiful as your hollyhock dolls. > > vee > > > > ==== NYNIAGAR Mailing List ==== > Were your ancestors in Niagara County by 1860? You might find their > names at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyniagar/extras/1860.html>, > transcribed from 1860 county maps! > >

    08/29/2000 06:11:38
    1. Niagara County, New York book
    2. Niagara County, New York, one hundred of the most wonderful regions in the world microform : a concise record of her progress and people, 1821-1921, published during its centennial year / written by a native, the son of natives, and the grandson of pioneer Sounds like a great book. I wonder if I can get it on loan in California. My ggg grandfather, John McCollum lived in Lewiston, NY. but I cannot seem to find out anything about his parents. Thanks for letting me know. Linda

    08/29/2000 06:09:41
    1. Re: Oakmont Cemetery
    2. Patty Champion Sanderlin
    3. Yes, Vee You are correct and I'm glad you couldn't wait. I was going to respond but knew Oakmont didn't sound right, and hadn't had a chance to look it up yet. The office is to the right as you drive in the gates. Yes, the lady at the cemetery is VERY, VERY nice, (I should have gotten her name) When I told her I was coming straight home to post to my list how nice she had been she said she enjoyed helping people with genealogy. The only drawback is that all the records are stored in a bound books by years and she has no way of copying them so be prepared to write the information out. Patty Champion Sanderlin Wilson, Niagara Co. NY searching: Armstrong, Campbell, Champion, Curnow, Freeman, Maynard, Meek, Morcom, Richards, Russell, Taylor and Wass ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vee L. Housman" <housman@adelphia.net> To: <NYNIAGAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Oakmont Cemetery > Dear Rose, et al, > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert & Rose Matthews <rmatthews6196@Penn.com> > To: <NYNIAGAR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 12:34 PM > Subject: Oakmont Cemetery > > > > Can anyone tell me the location of Oakmont Cemetery in Niagara Falls? > > Also, does anyone have an index for this cemetery? > > Thanks a genealogical million, > > Rose > > I was waiting for someone to jump in with a response to your message but I > just couldn't wait any longer. To my knowledge, there is no Oakmont > Cemetery in Niagara Falls. However, comma, about the biggest cemetery in > Niagara Falls is the Oakwood Cemetery and it's located at 763 Portage Road, > Niagara Falls, NY, 14301, 716-284-5131. I believe someone posted a message > recently that let us know that they have an office on the premises and that > the clerk there is very helpful in finding the graves of whoever you're > looking for. The burials date back to about 1852. > > And although you don't know what I'm talking about here right now, it's > across from Cedar Avenue and it's very near the old Trott Vocational High > School and when I was a student at Niagara Falls High School, I walked past > that cemetery almost every day on my way to Spinner's Restaurant where all > of us high school kids congregated after school to sit down to a Coke > together. Oh the stories I could tell you about all of the flirting and > gossip that went on at Spinner's in the 1940s!! > > Good luck on your upcoming visit to the Falls. > > vee > > >

    08/29/2000 04:06:46
    1. Re: Oakmont Cemetery
    2. Robert & Rose Matthews
    3. Vee, Has anyone told you lately that you are worth your weight in gold? Allow me to be the first,then. I am posting this to the list as I want a couple of people to see what I am saying. TO ELLEN: Guess I missed by a little bit when I thought the cemetery was on Niagara St somewhere near Portage Road. TO VEE: Didn't I tell you that I lived in Niagara Falls for a couple years as a teenager? I went to school at South Junior High School. I lived on Welch Avenue near 19th Street. I am quite sure that Spinner's was still going strong in the 60's......but the group I hung out with had no money so we hung out at the store behind the school. Or.....maybe that was behind the store that was behind the school. Thanks so much for the information. I will call the cemetery tomorrow. You all are a great group. Thanks, Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: Vee L. Housman <housman@adelphia.net> To: <NYNIAGAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Oakmont Cemetery > Dear Rose, et al, > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert & Rose Matthews <rmatthews6196@Penn.com> > To: <NYNIAGAR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 12:34 PM > Subject: Oakmont Cemetery > > > > Can anyone tell me the location of Oakmont Cemetery in Niagara Falls? > > Also, does anyone have an index for this cemetery? > > Thanks a genealogical million, > > Rose > > I was waiting for someone to jump in with a response to your message but I > just couldn't wait any longer. To my knowledge, there is no Oakmont > Cemetery in Niagara Falls. However, comma, about the biggest cemetery in > Niagara Falls is the Oakwood Cemetery and it's located at 763 Portage Road, > Niagara Falls, NY, 14301, 716-284-5131. I believe someone posted a message > recently that let us know that they have an office on the premises and that > the clerk there is very helpful in finding the graves of whoever you're > looking for. The burials date back to about 1852. > > And although you don't know what I'm talking about here right now, it's > across from Cedar Avenue and it's very near the old Trott Vocational High > School and when I was a student at Niagara Falls High School, I walked past > that cemetery almost every day on my way to Spinner's Restaurant where all > of us high school kids congregated after school to sit down to a Coke > together. Oh the stories I could tell you about all of the flirting and > gossip that went on at Spinner's in the 1940s!! > > Good luck on your upcoming visit to the Falls. > > vee > > > ==== NYNIAGAR Mailing List ==== > To obtain New York State vital records (birth, death, marriage), see > <http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/consumer/vr/geninst.htm>. > >

    08/29/2000 04:05:10
    1. Re: Oakmont Cemetery
    2. Vee L. Housman
    3. Dear Rose, et al, ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert & Rose Matthews <rmatthews6196@Penn.com> To: <NYNIAGAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 12:34 PM Subject: Oakmont Cemetery > Can anyone tell me the location of Oakmont Cemetery in Niagara Falls? > Also, does anyone have an index for this cemetery? > Thanks a genealogical million, > Rose I was waiting for someone to jump in with a response to your message but I just couldn't wait any longer. To my knowledge, there is no Oakmont Cemetery in Niagara Falls. However, comma, about the biggest cemetery in Niagara Falls is the Oakwood Cemetery and it's located at 763 Portage Road, Niagara Falls, NY, 14301, 716-284-5131. I believe someone posted a message recently that let us know that they have an office on the premises and that the clerk there is very helpful in finding the graves of whoever you're looking for. The burials date back to about 1852. And although you don't know what I'm talking about here right now, it's across from Cedar Avenue and it's very near the old Trott Vocational High School and when I was a student at Niagara Falls High School, I walked past that cemetery almost every day on my way to Spinner's Restaurant where all of us high school kids congregated after school to sit down to a Coke together. Oh the stories I could tell you about all of the flirting and gossip that went on at Spinner's in the 1940s!! Good luck on your upcoming visit to the Falls. vee

    08/29/2000 03:33:32
    1. Re: Book
    2. Vee L. Housman
    3. Dear Sue, et al, ----- Original Message ----- From: D. Sue Kissel <dskissel@cybertrails.com> To: <NYNIAGAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:35 PM Subject: Book Is anyone familiar with this book? Can you tell me a little about it? Niagara County, New York, one hundred of the most wonderful regions in the world microform : a concise record of her progress and people, 1821-1921, published during its centennial year / written by a native, the son of natives, and the grandson of pioneers Thanks Yes, I have a copy of the actual book on loan to me from our Town of Porter Historical Society for personal use in answering queries regarding Niagara County genealogy. The copy that I have is Vol II, the biographical volume, and it has a marvelous INDEX to it. It was written by Edward T. Williams, "Postmaster of Niagara Falls, N.Y. For Thirty Years a Niagara County Newspaper Man, President of the Niagara Frontier Historical Society, and Three Times Elected President of the Niagara County Pioneer Association." It was published by J. H. Beers & Co., Chicago. The book contains 850 pages and is totally devoted to the genealogy of Niagara County families. Note: as with many books of this nature, just be aware that the history of the families was provided by the families themselves and no doubt contains some "wishful thinking" on the part that their ancestors played in the history of our country. Nonetheless, in most cases the families got long-winded and provided a whole bunch good clues (with maiden names) in spite of some of their questionable(?) "Revolutionary War Hero Ancestors!" vee

    08/29/2000 03:09:26