I think that the main library in Buffalo has city directories for the Niagara Falls area too. Not all years are included, but quite a few are. Johnny Farmers Branch, Tx Alternate E-mail: searchangel@ureach.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert & Rose Matthews" <rmatthews6196@Penn.com> To: <NYNIAGAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 7:49 PM Subject: Re: Bell in WWII-Thank you OH,OH,OH!!!! I KNOW...call on me. When I was in Niagara Falls last month, I found that the Directories not available at the Library are there in Lockport at the Niagara County Historical Society. :-) :-) Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: Vee L. Housman <housman@adelphia.net> To: <NYNIAGAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 8:30 PM Subject: Re: Bell in WWII-Thank you > Dear Amy, > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: pdemeo <pdemeo@cfl.rr.com> > To: <NYNIAGAR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 3:07 PM > Subject: Bell in WWII-Thank you > > > So now I have another question......were there phone books back then? I'm > > trying to piece together their mother's existence before they left Niagara > > Falls....they were really little, and have had no info for 60 yrs. I > thought > > perhaps I could find an address of where they lived and take a picture > next > > time I'm home. > > Yes, "Virginia," there were phone books back in the olden days of WWII! :-) > However, that's not where you want to look. The History Dept. of the > Niagara Falls Public Library has copies of City Directories of Niagara Falls > that cover quite an extensive period of time. Now there's the possibility > that in one or two of the war years, the directory wasn't published because > of the paper shortage, but it's worth a try to write to the library (History > Dept.) at 1425 Main St., Niagara Falls, NY 14305 (716-286-4899) and ask them > to check over the directories that they have during the war years to see if > she's listed there. > > Tell them that if they find her (listed alphabetically according to surname) > then to check out the street addresses of the directory to see who else was > living at that same address. She may have been living with family or she > may have been living in a boarding house. Either way, you'll get some sort > of clue. > > Good luck and let us know what you find. You've got my curiosity up > regarding the elusive "Rosie the Riveter." BTW, I'm also curious as to what > her name was. Who knows but what I might have gone to school with one of > her younger brothers or sisters (I was born in 1931). And hey, if I just > HAPPENED to be on old friendly terms with the family . . . well, who knows! > > vee > > > ==== NYNIAGAR Mailing List ==== > Check the GenConnect boards for Niagara County! Stop by > <http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyniagar/query.html> for links to all seven. > For other counties, see <http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/indx/NY.html>. > > ==== NYNIAGAR Mailing List ==== A list of Town, Village, and City Historians for Niagara County is at <http://hometown.aol.com/Moecow/index12.html>.

I can't thank everyone enough for the wonderful and detailed responses I got regarding Bell Aircraft Factory in WWII. It seems it was a topic others enjoyed, and in this I'm very glad.....I have contacted Bell Textron, and I'll let everyone know if the records still exist somewhere. So now I have another question......were there phone books back then? I'm trying to piece together their mother's existence before they left Niagara Falls....they were really little, and have had no info for 60 yrs. I thought perhaps I could find an address of where they lived and take a picture next time I'm home. I'm the granddaughter of their mother's brother (she was abt. 25 yrs. younger than he) and they just found me on the internet....There are still members of my family living there, but petty squabbles broke the family up years ago, and they aren't forth coming with info at all. Anyone on this list from Niagara Falls and belong to St. Mary's of the Catarac? A note for you........there's an older cemetery pre-Gate of Heaven-that the diocese has not kept up that few know abt. But the caretaker there has great knowledge and is a wonderful guy......do contact him if you think you may have Catholic ancestors there. Thank you so very much, again, for your generous contributions. Amy Murphy-DeMeo Ormond Beach, FL -----Original Message----- From: NYNIAGAR-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:NYNIAGAR-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 1:01 PM To: NYNIAGAR-D@rootsweb.com Subject: NYNIAGAR-D Digest V00 #189 << Message: ATT00014.eml (745 bytes) >> << Message: Losson Hart Hicks (471 bytes) >> << Message: Losson Hart Hicks (981 bytes) >> << Message: Re: Aircraft Factory in WWII (1.73 KB) >> << Message: Fw: Aircraft Factory in WWII (1.17 KB) >> << Message: Belmer (492 bytes) >> << Message: Tylers, Van Slykes, early 1800s (597 bytes) >> << Message: Belmer (468 bytes) >>

While we're on the subject of aircraft companies, does anyone have any information on the Curtis Airplane Factory in Buffalo. My grandmother, Grace Halstead Johnson, worked there during WWII. I never asked her how she got to work, but it was a long commute since she lived on the Niagara-Orleans County Line Road. Thanks Rebecca Ott Rochester, New York

tried to send this twice privately but both times it bounced, said the mailbox was disabled...saw a post from vee on the list so i hope she gets this! -------- hi vee, i've been going through some health problems myself--just had an ultrasound to see if i had gallstones; i don't, but i still have to figure out what's causing the pain and indigestion--so i haven't been paying much attention to my email, but i've been thinking of you and concerned that i haven't seen any email from you. but i haven't seen much at all from the Niagara Co. list, so maybe there's some problem with my mail. i know how draining health problems are. i hope you're taking care of yourself and getting the best possible medical care. as you know i'm not a big fan of conventional medicine, even at its best it often leaves out the 'mind' part of the bodymind connection. i know you have a strong faith to sustain you, and good friends. i just hope that as you heal you are getting your emotional as well as physical needs met, because i'm convinced that in the end it's our emotions--the mind--that decides if the body's going to get better and not the other way around. if the emotional aspect of a person isn't getting sufficient nourishment, the immune system breaks down. take good care of yourself, vee, and when you're able, drop me a line! love, chris -- At that instant he saw, in one blaze of light, an image of unutterable conviction, the reason why the artist works and lives & has his being -- the reward he seeks -- the only reward he really cares about, without which there is nothing. It is to snare the spirits of mankind in nets of magic, to make his life prevail through his creation, to wreak the vision of his life, the rude & painful substance of his own experience, into the congruence of blazing & enchanted images that are themselves the core of life, the essential pattern whence all other things proceed, the kernel of eternity." ~Thomas Wolfe, Of Time & the River

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara/305 Surname: Belmer ------------------------- I am looking for the family of Mary Belmer, my gg-grandmother, who lived in Cambria, Niagara Co., New York in 1830's. She married Peter Ramer, Raymer, Raymour. Date unknown. I have found two sons, Samuel and Mason, both born in Cambria, Niagara Co., New York.

I believe it was called the Curtis Wright Co & they made the P-40 fighter I think their plant was on genesse st now the site of the Buffalo Airport Ed Toy > I have tried to find information about the Curtis Airplane Factory. Haven't > been able to find much. I did find pictures of fighter planes made by Curtis. > It might be possible that Curtis has since become Boeing, but I haven't been > able to confirm this. > > Johnny > Farmers Branch, Tx > Alternate E-mail: searchangel@ureach.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rebecca" <rott1@rochester.rr.com> > To: <NYNIAGAR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 2:12 PM > Subject: Curtis Airplane Plant > > > While we're on the subject of aircraft companies, does anyone have any > information on the Curtis Airplane Factory in Buffalo. My grandmother, > Grace Halstead Johnson, worked there during WWII. I never asked her how > she got to work, but it was a long commute since she lived on the > Niagara-Orleans County Line Road. > > Thanks > Rebecca Ott > Rochester, New York > > > ==== NYNIAGAR Mailing List ==== > Want to know what genealogy information is in the State Archives? > Visit the New York State Archives and Records Administration site, at > <http://www.archives.nysed.gov/faq/faq3.htm>. > > > > > ==== NYNIAGAR Mailing List ==== > A list of Town, Village, and City Historians for Niagara County is at > <http://hometown.aol.com/Moecow/index12.html>. >

Hey Guys, What a neat message I just received from Johnny regarding Bell Aircraft! And when I read the mention of Larry Bell in the URL below, I just KNEW that he was the founder of the original Bell Aircraft Company here in Niagara Falls--right next to our present airport. WOW, I had forgotten about Bell's hellicopters! And although I knew that Bell eventually went into the supersonic age, well I guess hellicopters weren't quite as exciting as fighter planes or supersonic planes. How quickly we forget! Thanks Johnny for letting us know that the Bell company still exists. Rosie the Rivieter of WWII would have been pleased to know that she played a part in its continuing existance. vee ----- Original Message ----- From: Johnny <johnnymaynard@home.com> To: <housman@adelphia.net> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 10:40 PM Subject: Re: Aircraft Factory in WWII > I have a feeling that Bell Aircraft Company has become Bell Helicopter in modern > day times. This link will take you to their company history, where you might > find out if this is true. > > http://www.bellhelicopter.textron.com/companyInfo/historyHeritage/index.html > > Johnny > Farmers Branch, Tx > Alternate E-mail: searchangel@ureach.com

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara/304 Surname: Tyler, Van Slyke ------------------------- My g2 grandfather, Jason G. Tyler, was born in 1818 in RI. He died in 1896 and is buried in Mt. View Cemetery, Pekin, Cambria, Niagara County, NY, lot #104. He was married to Margaret Van Slyke, born 1817, in Pendleton, Niagara County, NY, and died in 1874, also buried in Mt. View Cemetery. I do not know Jason's parents names. Does anyone have this information? Thank you.

Dear Amy, I was waiting for someone else to jump in and let you know that the aircraft factory where she worked was most probably Bell Aircraft Company. In the WWII years they--men and WOMEN--worked around the clock pumping out Airacobra fighting planes. And I know from PERSONAL experience that during the Blizzard of 1977 around here, the plant was still there--known then as Bell Airospace. I also know that the building is still there but somewhere down the line the company has disappeared. Now whether the employee records were kept by the company or whether they were turned over to the History Dept. of the Niagara Falls Library, or just destroyed, I just don't know. Regarding a SSN, I'm certain that any employee records would have included it. I guess I have to include this dismal end to my message. Although I haven't researched any of the above, I have the feeling that employee records were destroyed many years ago. WWII was over in 1945--55 years ago--and that glorious aircraft factory is no longer in existance. Nonetheless, I wish you good luck in your search for your family history. Vee Youngstown, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: pdemeo <pdemeo@cfl.rr.com> To: <NYNIAGAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 5:21 AM Subject: Aircraft Factory in WWII > > HI. I'm looking for the name of, and some info on an aircraft factory in > Niagara Falls during WWII. Does anyone know what records may still be > around for employees during the war, and if they would have been required to > have, or would have had a SS#? I'm searching for a woman who worked there > before she moved to PA and shortly thereafter, disappeared. Any help is > most appreciated. > Thank you. > Amy Murphy-DeMeo > Ormond Beach, FL > > > ==== NYNIAGAR Mailing List ==== > Were your ancestors in Niagara County by 1860? You might find their > names at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyniagar/extras/1860.html>, > transcribed from 1860 county maps! >

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara/303 Surname: Belmer ------------------------- Anthony Belmer lived in LewistonNiagra Co. in 1840 census. They had 5 daughters one of them was my GrGR Grandmother Lorinda, who married Frances Trowbridge in Cambria in 1844. Would like to know the names of the other 4 daughters of Anthony. Thanks Carol S.

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara/302 Surname: ------------------------- Dear Sharon, Your ancestors may indeed have arrived in Niagara County by way of the Erie Canal. The canal was officially opened in 1825 and toward the western end of its route it passed through the "port" towns in Niagara County, went on to North Tonawanda, Niagara Co., and ended up at its terminal in Tonawanda, Erie Co., where it met with the uppper Niagara River. From there passengers heading westward boarded lake steamers and traveled along Lake Erie and the upper Great Lakes until they reached their destination, whether it be somewhere in Ohio or Michigan. Those families who settled here in the 1830s and moved again westward would have just loaded up their wagon and driven to the area of Buffalo where they would have then unload their possessions on to a lake steamer. I hope this helps you in figuring out the migration pattern of your family. Vee Housman Youngstown, NY

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara/301 Surname: Hicks ------------------------- Looking for information about Losson (Lossen) Hart Hicks or Lawson Hart Hicks moved to Niagara New York sometime about 1830 then moved to Ohio Lucas county about 1839. Trying to find out if he came west on the Erie Canal.

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara/300 Surname: Bullock, Vestal ------------------------- Francis Bullock was supposedly born in Bristol, VA, came to VA, NC and Franklin County, AL. M Rachel Vestal. Son William James Bullock b abt 1810. Parents of Francis may have been John and Martha Bullock.

I knew this book had to have value to someone. The book is sold. Now, if I can just find a book of "PA marriages previous to 1784". Bought the NY book before I found out that all my people got married in PA or NJ. Thanks!! Rose

Forgive me for posting this to the list. I have a book titled "NY marriages previous to 1784" that I would like to sell as I have no use for it. It was originally printed in 1860 but this copyright is dated 1968. It is in excellant condition. Is there someone interested in it? I will sell it on a first come, first served basis. I am asking $45.00 for it and that includes postage. Thanks, Rose

HI. I'm looking for the name of, and some info on an aircraft factory in Niagara Falls during WWII. Does anyone know what records may still be around for employees during the war, and if they would have been required to have, or would have had a SS#? I'm searching for a woman who worked there before she moved to PA and shortly thereafter, disappeared. Any help is most appreciated. Thank you. Amy Murphy-DeMeo Ormond Beach, FL

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara/299 Surname: Fields ------------------------- I am looking for any information on Clarence Fields who married Margaret Beilein and believed to have lived in Niagara County after their marriage. Might of been in North Tonawanda. Any information would be appreciated!! Thanks!!

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara/298 Surname: Hitzel, Fields ------------------------- Am looking for a Mr. Hitzel who was a butcher in Niagara County that was married to Loy Fields. If anyone has any information, I would truly appreciate it!!! Thanks!

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara/297 Surname: Coonrod ------------------------- Looking for information about family of Adelbert Coonrod b. Niagria County, NY Apr 1852 or 1853. Father Peter Coonrod, Mother Nancy Sooks (Scoks) Thanks!

Hello, Would some kind soul know the mailing address or phone number to the gift store on Goat Island? Thank you! Sandra