Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara/345 Surname: Bradley ------------------------- I am researching William and Anna Bradley. They were originally from Ireland and settled in Ontario, Canada and then moved to Lockport, Niagara Co, New York circa 1833. They returned to Ontario circa 1855.

Regarding fees for obtaining BDMs in Niagara County, although the fee when you send away to Albany for records is $11, in particular the city of Niagara Falls charges $10 (my most recent request was in September for seven records for $70). And I think I recall paying $10 also to the town of Newfane for a death certificate last year. I also paid the city clerk of Buffalo $10 per record last September. It may be that the individual city or town sets its own rate. One important thing I've learned is to always send a photocopy of my driver's license as ID. And when I don't have the city or town's own form for the request, I print out the state's form and send it/them along with a covering letter which includes a list of the records I am requesting, thinking that it's better to do too much than too little. Also, at least the city of Niagara Falls requires a money order or cashier's check -- no personal checks. I would highly recommend speaking to the town/ city clerk before applying, since they all seem to do things differently from each other. I've had very good luck (after some waiting!) in my efforts to obtain BDMs in Niagara County by mail (not so good in person, though, but that's another story . . . .) Cheers -- Elsa in Allegany County, Maryland

Dear Evelyn and All, Eleven dollars is the search fee mandated by the State of New York. The fee is not at the discretion of the different clerks. Also, the fees esculate per number of years that must be searched; i.e., 1-3 years is $11, 51-70 years is $81.00. A while back, I posted, on the list, all of the information and fees required. If you can go back to the Mailing List Achives, you should find them. Happy hunting! Ellen Colangelo Wilson, NY

Dear Evelyn, et al, ----- Original Message ----- From: evelyn b cooper <ebcooper@juno.com> To: <NYNIAGAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 9:31 PM Subject: Vital records from Niagara County #2 > I will be sending to the Town of Somerset, and they charge $11.00 a > search, whether or not a record is found. Is this the normal charge? > I must admit that you surprised me with such a charge. However, it sounded a bit familiar to me. Last year I was helping a girl with her SADDLESON/TOWNSEND family research in Town of Cambria and eventually found out that when she received the request form that the Town of Cambria Clerk had sent her to fill out, that it apparently stated that she should send a check in the amount of $11.00 per request. I seriously doubt that Town of Porter charges that amount but frankly I don't know what other towns charge. Town Clerks are a unique breed of people--some of them won't let you even peak into "their" records without a "search warrant" PLUS a copy of your birth certificate and others just open up their old records to you to and let you go at them to your heart's content! vee

Hello again, I appreciate hearing from some of you, but I have another question. I will be sending to the Town of Somerset, and they charge $11.00 a search, whether or not a record is found. Is this the normal charge? Thanks again. Leave it to me to have a follow-up question, even as a child. Evelyn in Colorado ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Dear Evelyn, et al, ----- Original Message ----- From: evelyn b cooper <ebcooper@juno.com> To: <NYNIAGAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 2:47 PM Subject: Vital records from Niagara County > Has anyone successfully obtained birth, death, marriage records from > towns in Niagara County? >Supposedly they are available from 1880/81, but > has anyone received any from the 1880s I have Town of Porter births from 1884 and, births, marriages and deaths from 1868 from St. John's Episcopal Church, Youngstown. vee

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara/343 Surname: Ogden ------------------------- Looking for info on the Ogden Family in Niagra County between 1830 and 1837.

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Deeds Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/NiagaraDeed/3 Surname: Ogden ------------------------- I am looking for information on the Ogden family who lived in Niagra County between approximately 1830 and 1837. I have info on their descendents.

Hello my fellow listers, Has anyone successfully obtained birth, death, marriage records from towns in Niagara County? I recently posted many town hall addresses to the list, and I'm now getting ready to order a search for some, BUT I haven't read of anyone's good news in this area. Supposedly they are available from 1880/81, but has anyone received any from the 1880s? Thanks ahead of time for letting me know. Evelyn in Colorado ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Dear Group, Someone on my PADUTCH-LIFE list reminisced about his mother making homemade root beer back around 1913 in Pennsylvania and I just responded to that list with the following. I'm sharing it with you because my own family incident regarding homemade root beer occurred on Macklem Ave., Niagara Falls, NY. Ah, yes, memories! vee Harold's message about homemade root beer reminded me of a message I sent to the old Penna-Dutch list back in November 1997. At that time we had a similar conversation on the list about root beer and Gordon remembered the time that their own batch of root beer exploded in their cellar. I responded by sharing my own memories as follows: EXPLODING ROOT BEER Gordon posted his memories about his memories regarding the mess that homemade root beer can cause and I immediately burst out in loud laughter, gaffaws and such! Oh, yes, indeedy do! Exploding root beer!! I remember it well! I remember it so vividly. Our family was having a civilized dinner in the dining room in the 1940s when all of a sudden there was a loud "pop" from overhead--the attic, not Gordon's cellar! Mother turned to Daddy, Daddy turned to Mother, both of them wondered what had happened and then, almost in unison, they exclaimed, "The root beer!" Now, I wasn't involved with cleaning up the mess but I guess this is what happened. Back then, first off you bought a small bottle of concentrated Hire's Root Beer extract. And I don't know what you mixed it with but whatever it was, you poured the mixture into what were catchup(?) bottles, you positioned the bottle underneath the metal bottle capper contraption, made certain you had the new bottle cap in the right position and then clamped the cap onto the bottle. And then you stored the filled bottles either in Gordon's cellar or our attic and waited until it "ripened" or "aged" or "fermented or whatever it was supposed to do before you got to open that first bottle of the most delicious bottle of root beer you've ever tasted! Now, obviously, things can go wrong with root beer just as they go wrong with sauerkraut. But when things go wrong with root beer, it's like the Fourth of July! Not is there only one "pop," but that one is followed by the whole nine yards of exploding root beer all over the attic/Gordon's cellar! Trust me, you better get your root beer makins down just right before you even want to try to brew your own! But when you do, I guarantee you that it will be the best root beer you've ever tasted!

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara/341 Surname: Koepke, Cupp, Paisell ------------------------- > Hello, > I am looking for siblings and parents siblings of Julia Jennie KOEPKE [Cupp], b: 15 Oct. 1865 in New York, Niagara Co.?. Possibly on arrival of Ellis Isl..?, New York, after the parents immigrated from Germany. Julia had brothers Paul, and John, and sisters [only married names] Mrs... Fred Lickfeldt, and Mrs... Harry Stetler. Her parents were Frederick Koepke [Cupp] b: 4 Aug. 1832 and Johanna [PAISELL] b: 3 Oct. 1832 both born in Germany. They were married in 1853. Any assistance would be great. > Thanks in advance. > Cheryl [LaNier] Myers

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara/340 Surname: Washborn ------------------------- I am looking for any information about my great grandmother and her parents and ancestors. Cora Ann Washborn b. 15 Dec 1871 Lockport, New York. Thank you!

Hello everyone. I am excited to be joining this list and look forward to reading the posts. I have a David Perry born about 1818 in New York, wife Katherine, children Susan 1839, Gleason 1842, William 1847 all living in Lockport, Niagara County at least from 1842 until 1850 census. If anyone has information to share regarding this or other Perry families in the Niagara county area I would greatly appreciate it.

This is from another list: Here's a great list of full-text, online books about New York state and many of its counties & cities (including Buffalo): http://www.sunysb.edu/libmap/nybib.htm But then I found this site and it is even better, Making of America http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/moa/

Dear Group, In response to my message about a Little Local Gossip Sue wrote > Any change we can get a list of the families mentioned in the school > records? > According to land records my John Crowder was from Porter when he purchased > his property in Wilson in 1859. Sue, I haven't had the opportunity to look over those earlier records of School Dist. No. 2 but when I do, I'll still be on the lookout for your John Crowder. He didn't show up on the 1850 census in Town of Porter. However, your message encouraged me to type up the surnames of those people who are listed in the Attendance Records of School Dist. No. 2--1883-1885. I have a copy of those records and if any of the following surnames are of interest to anyone, let me know. I've researched most of those families. vee School District No. 2, Town of Porter Register of Attendance November 1883-July 1885 List of Surnames of Parents or Guardians Allen Balcom Brookins Buckley Canfield Eves Force Higbee Hill McAlister McEwen Morris Moss Murray Ripson Sayre Shippy Smictch Tower VanKuren Wille List of Surnames of Students Other Than the Above Bottrell Carpenter Chapman Luke Tuell William List of Surnames of Visitors Other Than the Above Adams Cowan Hosmer McCollum Moag Phillips Pound Swain Swift Walsh Washburn Weston

Thank you Vee--as always you are WONDERFUL! Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Vee L. Housman <housman@adelphia.net> To: <NYNIAGAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 6:54 PM Subject: School Records Families > Dear Group, > > In response to my message about a Little Local Gossip Sue wrote > > > Any change we can get a list of the families mentioned in the school > > records? > > According to land records my John Crowder was from Porter when he > purchased > > his property in Wilson in 1859. > > Sue, I haven't had the opportunity to look over those earlier records of > School Dist. No. 2 but when I do, I'll still be on the lookout for your John > Crowder. He didn't show up on the 1850 census in Town of Porter. However, > your message encouraged me to type up the surnames of those people who are > listed in the Attendance Records of School Dist. No. 2--1883-1885. I have a > copy of those records and if any of the following surnames are of interest > to anyone, let me know. I've researched most of those families. > > vee > > School District No. 2, Town of Porter > Register of Attendance > November 1883-July 1885 > List of Surnames of Parents or Guardians > Allen > Balcom > Brookins > Buckley > Canfield > Eves > Force > Higbee > Hill > McAlister > McEwen > Morris > Moss > Murray > Ripson > Sayre > Shippy > Smictch > Tower > VanKuren > Wille > > List of Surnames of Students Other Than the Above > Bottrell > Carpenter > Chapman > Luke > Tuell > William > > List of Surnames of Visitors Other Than the Above > Adams > Cowan > Hosmer > McCollum > Moag > Phillips > Pound > Swain > Swift > Walsh > Washburn > Weston > > > > > ==== NYNIAGAR Mailing List ==== > Were your ancestors in Niagara County by 1860? You might find their > names at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyniagar/extras/1860.html>, > transcribed from 1860 county maps! > >

Louis Silberberg, who died in 1948, built(?) and owned the Short Line Railway to take the apples and whatever other produce was stored in the Youngstown cold storage facility, to market outside the area, by connecting to the New York Central RR in the Falls. If anyone knows of further information about this or the Cold Storage company, I would be very grateful if you would share it with me. I am researching the Silberberg family who came to Lewiston in 1849, later they lived Suspension Bridge, and still later in Niagara Falls. Would anyone have suggestions about further research.I "did"Lewiston Library, and has corresponded with Don Loker. City Historian in theN>Falls Libary. Roberta (Bobbie) Pinkowski Silberberg Ponn

Good Evening everyone, I don't know if this will help anyone, but just in case. I mentioned the power plant to my mother and she said she remembered it and that my aunt's husband was working there when it happened and that my other Aunt was dating the man that had gotten killed, So I wrote my Aunt an E-mail to confirm this and this is what she had to say. "Aunt Joan did go with a Tommy Hoys that was working on the clean-up and he got killed. This was after the station caved in." She also went on to say that it happened on my cousin's birthday which is June 7th. If this is of interest of anyone, I'll be glad to try and "pump" her for more information. Patty Champion Sanderlin Wilson, Niagara Co. NY searching: Armstrong, Campbell, Champion, Curnow, Freeman, Maynard, Meek, Morcom, Richards, Russell, Taylor and Wass

Dear Group, This evening I had an interesting telephone conversation with another person around these parts who is as intensely interested in our Town of Porter history as I am. Well, she had been reading over the old school records of School District No. 2 at Tower's Corners that date from 1852 to 1894(?), and we were both excited about all of the old town families that were mentioned in it. But we eventually strayed a bit from the records themselves. We had been talking about John Haskell (1834-1902) who was mentioned in the records, and we both agreed that he had married Agnes Lloyd. We also came to agree that John and Agnes were living on the old Lloyd homestead that her grandfather John Lloyd had established prior to the War of 1812. John Lloyd is considered to be the first settler of Town of Porter. Well that's when "my friend" told me that she had also been reading over the old records that our museum has regarding the accounts of the store that Peter Tower ran at Tower's Corners not all that far from John Haskell. And there was one thing that she noticed that was consistent. It seems that John Haskell purchased a large quantity of rum from Peter on almost a daily basis. And of course, the only conclusion that she could come to was that he was operating a bar or tavern in his farm house. Certainly John couldn't have consumed that much rum all by himself! WELL, that brought up another subject! I told my friend that I seem to recall that I had heard that there had been a bit of illegal gambling going on at the old school house at Tower's Corners. Oh, yes, there had! And then I asked her if it had something to do with old Luke Tower (born ca 1871). Oh, yes, it did! Ahhaaaaa! I KNEW it!! It seems that old Luke had secret poker games going on in the old school house and many men of the town and Youngstown sneaked off in the evening to gamble away money that their wives knew they couldn't afford. And here's the thing of it. I've recently heard from another undisclosed source that those poker games continued well after Luke died and that they had been raided on numerous occasions WELL into the 1900s. Now, mind you, I have no proof of any of the above. But when you hear similar stories from different people, you know that there must be some truth in it. Now don't you???? One additional note. One of our list members descends from John and Agnes Haskell and I have an idea that she's giggling up a storm right now because it's the first time that she has heard the story! But, Beth, I promise that I won't tell the story about another ancestor of yours who has the distinction of being the first bootlegger to smuggle booze across the river from Canada into Youngstown during Prohibition!! (tee hee!) vee

Any change we can get a list of the families mentioned in the school records? According to land records my John Crowder was from Porter when he purchased his property in Wilson in 1859. Thanks Sue Kissel Sue D. Sue Crowder Kissel 3299 Rose Lane Prescott AZ dskissel@cybertrails.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Vee L. Housman <housman@adelphia.net> To: < Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 8:51 PM Subject: A Little Local Gossip > Dear Group, > > This evening I had an interesting telephone conversation with another person > around these parts who is as intensely interested in our Town of Porter > history as I am. Well, she had been reading over the old school records of > School District No. 2 at Tower's Corners that date from 1852 to 1894(?), and > we were both excited about all of the old town families that were mentioned > in it. > > But we eventually strayed a bit from the records themselves. We had been > talking about John Haskell (1834-1902) who was mentioned in the records, and > we both agreed that he had married Agnes Lloyd. We also came to agree that > John and Agnes were living on the old Lloyd homestead that her grandfather > John Lloyd had established prior to the War of 1812. John Lloyd is > considered to be the first settler of Town of Porter. > > Well that's when "my friend" told me that she had also been reading over the > old records that our museum has regarding the accounts of the store that > Peter Tower ran at Tower's Corners not all that far from John Haskell. And > there was one thing that she noticed that was consistent. It seems that > John Haskell purchased a large quantity of rum from Peter on almost a daily > basis. And of course, the only conclusion that she could come to was that > he was operating a bar or tavern in his farm house. Certainly John couldn't > have consumed that much rum all by himself! > > WELL, that brought up another subject! I told my friend that I seem to > recall that I had heard that there had been a bit of illegal gambling going > on at the old school house at Tower's Corners. Oh, yes, there had! And > then I asked her if it had something to do with old Luke Tower (born ca > 1871). Oh, yes, it did! Ahhaaaaa! I KNEW it!! It seems that old Luke had > secret poker games going on in the old school house and many men of the town > and Youngstown sneaked off in the evening to gamble away money that their > wives knew they couldn't afford. And here's the thing of it. I've recently > heard from another undisclosed source that those poker games continued well > after Luke died and that they had been raided on numerous occasions WELL > into the 1900s. > > Now, mind you, I have no proof of any of the above. But when you hear > similar stories from different people, you know that there must be some > truth in it. Now don't you???? > > One additional note. One of our list members descends from John and Agnes > Haskell and I have an idea that she's giggling up a storm right now because > it's the first time that she has heard the story! But, Beth, I promise that > I won't tell the story about another ancestor of yours who has the > distinction of being the first bootlegger to smuggle booze across the river > from Canada into Youngstown during Prohibition!! (tee hee!) > > vee > > > ==== NYNIAGAR Mailing List ==== > Want to know what genealogy information is in the State Archives? > Visit the New York State Archives and Records Administration site, at > <http://www.archives.nysed.gov/faq/faq3.htm>. > >