I thought I would post the address of Genealogy Detective, just in case someone had not heard about it, an excellent site for free look ups.The support staff is a group of volunteers that own the CD's and do look ups on request. http://seidata.com/~genealogy/cdlist.html BADER, Pluto buried in a cemetery somewhere in Niagara County. Somewhere there is an url for the cemetery he is interred in. I saw his name on the website, but at the time did not know he was my greatgrandfather. Anyone looking at cemetery website in NIAGARA County, kindly look for the BADER surname. Specifically for Pluto. Thanks. Zona

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara/350 Surname: Roy, Traver, Westlake, Corliss ------------------------- Roy Family in Niagara County, NY I have family from the Niagara/Erie County areas. I too am having difficulty locating anything on any of my Roy relatives. My great grandfather was Earl Stanley Roy. He married a Maud May Traver. They lived in N.Tonawanda, NY and surrounding area (Wheatfield, Sanborn, Niagara) most of their lives. I have been able to trace the Traver line back to the Westlakes but I am stumped by the Roys! I have info on my father (Donald Winfield Roy Jr - no siblings) and my grandfather (Donald Winfield Roy Sr. - one brother, one sister) but have not found anything on Earl Stanley (?? siblings). Earl was born in Sanborn, NY in 1874. If you find any info about Roys in Niagara please let me know and I will do the same for you.

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara/348 Surname: Mohlar, Flynn, Fritz ------------------------- Re: Niagara County inquiry.-looking for any information for Mohlar and/or Flynn families. Burt Mohlar died in Lockport in 1951. May have had relatives who were fruit farmers. He was married twice. First wife was Jennie Flynn from Niagara or Erie counties.

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Wills Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/NiagaraWill/24 Surname: Conley, Connelly, Barber ------------------------- Searching for any information on the Conley families that resided in Lockport, Niagara Co. New York during the early to mid 1800's. Different spelling variations of the surname were also used eg.Connelly,Connolly. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cousins from around the globe are building an extensive Balcom(b)(e)database and we have a number of lost relatives with connections to NY state. Any assistance would be appreciated. Neil Balcom www.go.ednet.ns.ca/~neil

I am searching for the BROOKS family, any information is greatly appreciated. Diane Gassmann asmdg2@yahoo.com NOAH BROOKS bought land from the Holland Land Co 1805 Township 11 Range 2. NOAH BROOKS was born on 4 Nov 1782. He died on 9 Jan 1830 in NIAGARA CO., NY. He was married to MARACHA RUSSELL on 23 Dec 1803. Children were: ROSWELL RUSSELL BROOKS, ALLIRA BROOKS, ELIZABETH BROOKS, ABIRAM BROOKS, BELINDA BROOKS, ADDELIA BROOKS, CEMANTHA BROOKS, CHESTER BROOKS, ELECTA SYLVIA BROOKS, JULIA BROOKS, ALONZO BROOKS. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

FYI: It is only in Commonwealth countries that Armistice Day honors those who died in WWI, WWII, and/or the Korean War. Canada renamed their day of honoring the war dead to Remembrance Day in 1931. In 1919, President Wilson proclaimed November 11 as Armistice Day to remind Americans of the tragedy of war. Law was established in 1938 making November 11 a Federal Holiday. In 1938, The Congress of these United States changed the name of this upcoming day of remembrance to VETERANS DAY to HONOR ALL VETERANS. The law doesn't say dead veterans, live veterans, wounded veterans, veterans who served at the front lines or those who were recruiters or the nightingale nurses, or male veterans, female veterans. It doesn't say veterans of the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, the Civil War, the Spanish American War, WWI, WWII, the Korean "police action," the Viet Nam conflict, or any of the other peacekeeping ventures. It doesn't even mention the men and women who simply died of natural or accidental causes while on Reserve, Guard, or active duty----it just says VETERANS. It doesn't appear that any new or refined definition of a veteran has ever been given by the United States. Any thought or action that would diminish the sacrifices, big or small, of any of the above, based on some misperception of fact, or the intent of the action of Congress back in 1938, hasn't been paying attention. In my part of New York and everywhere I've served, I and many other veterans honor ALL VETERANS. Thanks for "listening." JR in NY

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Niagara/347 Surname: Poision, Possibly Allison Poision ------------------------- I am looking for any/all information for the above name "Poision" in the Lockport, Niagra area. Thankyou

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Wills Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/NiagaraWill/19 Surname: BREWSTER ------------------------- Who was JANE BREWSTER's spouse? JANE BREWSTER of the City of Niagara Falls, Niagara County, New York, Liber 47, pp. 501-504, written December 12, 1891: "Last Will of Jane Brewster, I JANE BREWSTER of the Village of Niagara Falls, Niagara County, New York, do hereby make publish and declare this my last will and testament in manner following, fiz: First - I give and bequeath to my son JAMES D. BREWSTER the sum of one dollar. Second - I give bequeath and devise all the residue of my property real and personal of every name and nature and wheresoever situate, to my three children, JOHN C. BREWSTER, WILLIAM H. BREWSTER and ANN ELIZA BREWSTER, share and share alike and their respective heirs and assigns forever. Third - I appoint my son JOHN C. BREWSTER sole executor of this my last will and testament hereby revoking all former wills by me made." Dated December 12, 1891 Jane [X] Brewster [her mark] Witnesses: WILLIAM TUGBY, Niagara Falls, NY; CHARLES M. NORRIS, Niagara Falls, NY. Proved: November 26, 1894.

Hello, All, Vee, I haven't read your message because I want to read it in the newsletter so maybe what I'm saying here is a repeat of what you have said. We Americans have blended all of the wars into this particular day and we also celebrate Memorial Day (wasn't it to honor those of the civil war?). Yet, originally Armistice Day was to honor the end of World War I on the 11th hour of the 11 day of the 11th month. When I was a child, the powers that be, in this country, decided to change the name to Veterans' Day to commenorate the end of both world wars and the men and women who fought and died in them. In Europe, November 11 is called Remembrance Day and is very important to the people, even the youth because they are not allowed to forget what transpired on their soil and in their families. My husband, who fought in the Normandy Landing and the Battle of the Bulge, and I visited the American Flanders Cemetery for a Memorial Day, when we lived in France. (The Europeans do not have Memorial Day.) The local children are released from school every year to parade into the grounds singing The Star Spangled Banner. They carry small Old Glories and, with their accents, bring tears to everyones' eyes. The gardens around the cemeteries are well groomed. The only place a poppy is found is growing wildly is in the hay fields. (My mother was a Canadian born in 1915. She was taught to recite "Flanders Field" in school. I remember her saying it every 11/11 at 11. She had an uncle killed at Ypres. It was the Canadian and British forces that sustained the battle at Flanders.) One more thing, possibly of interest. Whenever my husband met a young person and told them he had been there 50 years ago, in response to the question, "Have you ever been here before?" To a youth, the young person would say, "Oh! You were one of our liberators!" Does anyone, other than I, remember buying pretty button hole poppies on the street corners, when they were shopping? Everyone proudly wore them pinned to shirt, blouse, coat... If you didn't have one on, someone would see to it that you did. One and a half generations in this country have no idea what adversity is. I believe that is why patriotism has faded away. I also believe that we family historians are the ones, who have to teach it. Thanks, all of you vets! Ellen Colangelo Wilson, NY

Dear Annie, et al, I'm so pleased that the message that I posted to the list inspired you to respond to the list the way you did. Armistice Day always had a special meaning to me and I had difficulty when the name of it was changed to Veterans Day. Nonetheless it was one holiday that they didn't just fit into the monthly calendar so that it would fall on a Monday. Armistice Day still is celebrated on November 11 and on that 11th day at 11:00 a.m., there still remains a moment of silence in remembrance. "In Flanders Fields the poppies blow between the crosses, row on row . . ." And as I was surfing around this evening I was especially pleased to find several websites devoted to remembering the original meaning of Armistice Day. But there was one particular website that really impressed me http://www.astro.yorku.ca/~lee/rem_day.html. You see, I had always viewed Armistice Day from my American--the United States of America--point of view. But this evening that website made me realize that WWI was just as memorable and important to the Canadians--maybe even more so. I also didn't realize that the poem "In Flanders Fields" was written by a Canadian doctor who was there in Belgium treating the wounded at the time that he wrote the poem. I have a feeling that the original meaning of Armistice Day will be forgotten within the next few years and even though I can personally appreciate the meaning of Veterans' Day, it just doesn't have the same meaning. It would be like adding Pearl Harbor Day (December 7) to Veterans' Day--just lumping all of our wars into one day of remembrance. I feel that we're just throwing a blanket over all of the wars and maybe taking one minute out of the year to pay our respects and reflect a bit. But unless we can focus a moment in agonizing over what our ancestors or families endured during the individual wars that they and we have gone through--from the French and Indian War, through Vietnam, the Gulf War, etc.--we'll view ALL of the wars as just a a blur with no special meaning. In spite of my being a veteran, Veterans' Day will continue to be a rather unemotional day for me. For me, I prefer, "In Flanders Fields the poppies blow between the crosses, row on row." And if you want to hear about what it was like as a little girl who still remembers Pearl Harbor Day, just ask me. Lest we forget. vee ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cardi2@aol.com> To: <NYNIAGAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 11:36 PM Subject: Re: NYNIAGAR-D Digest V00 #219 > My father was on a troopship bound for Europe on the 11th day of November > 1918. The ship turned around and went back to Norfolk, VA from where it had > come. My British-born father became an American Citizen in 1919 because of > his time in the American Armed Forces. I have his citizenship and honorable > discharge papers. He became a citizen thru an Act of Congress and by the > State of New York. He went home to his fiance, my mother, and they were > married in Dearborn, Wayne County, MI 9 October 1919. > > I never call 11 November 'Veteran's Day." It will always be Armistice Day. > I had four Uncles in the British Army who surived that war - one at Verdon, > one somewhere in France (I don't know the name of the battle), one in India, > and one in Yemen. > > Annie > > > ==== NYNIAGAR Mailing List ==== > For a list of Niagara County records microfilmed by the LDS church, see > <http://www.familysearch.org>. >

My father was on a troopship bound for Europe on the 11th day of November 1918. The ship turned around and went back to Norfolk, VA from where it had come. My British-born father became an American Citizen in 1919 because of his time in the American Armed Forces. I have his citizenship and honorable discharge papers. He became a citizen thru an Act of Congress and by the State of New York. He went home to his fiance, my mother, and they were married in Dearborn, Wayne County, MI 9 October 1919. I never call 11 November 'Veteran's Day." It will always be Armistice Day. I had four Uncles in the British Army who surived that war - one at Verdon, one somewhere in France (I don't know the name of the battle), one in India, and one in Yemen. Annie

Marriage: HIMMELSBACH, Joseph to Mrs. C. PFEIFER, 29 SEP 1850 (B.C.A. 1 Oct 1850) Catherine Himmelsbach on 1900 Census born Nov. 1825, immigrated 1830. Had 9 children, 7 surviving. Lived at 33 W. 12th St, Buffalo. Have death certificate for Katherine Himmelsbach, born Germany, 28 NOV 1825. 283 W. Tupper, age 77 yrs. dod: 7 MAR 1913 Father: Philip Bartholomew Mother: Phoebe PRATT Joseph HIMMELSBACH dod: 6 AUG 1881 in Buffalo. 33 Twelfth St. I believe this Catherine is the former Mrs. C. PFEIFER. Who was her former husband? Her will says she had a son named George PFEIFER. Any further information about Joseph HIMMELSBACH and Mrs. C. PFEIFER would be deeply appreciated. Zona

Dear Group, This evening I was able to focus enough to start to compose the November newsletter of the Town of Porter Historical Society. In the past I have dug up old newspaper articles that were published during the same month of the newsletter and this evening this is how I figured I would start out the newsletter under the general heading of "Our Past Times." ARMISTICE DAY OBSERVANCE Do you remember when Veterans' Day used to be called Armistice Day and everyone still celebrated the original meaning of it at the time? It was always held on November 11 and it celebrated the ending of World War I fighting at 11:00 a.m. November 11, 1918 (the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month). It was in celebration of the final end of "The War to End All Wars" and this is how the children of Youngstown celebrated it in 1931. Niagara Falls Gazette, Niagara Falls, NY, Nov. 14, 1931 YOUNGSTOWN, Nov. 14-A special assembly was held in the Youngstown High school on Wednesday in observance of Armistice day. All members of the high school and seventh and eighth grades assembled in the high school study hall with their teachers at 10:55. At eleven a moment of silent was observed by the pupils. After this World War songs were sung in which all joined heartily. Pupils and teachers then were privileged to listen to a talk on "The Morning of Armistice Day" and "The Promotion of World Peace" delivered by Rev. Shubert Frye. Rev. Frye delivered a very interesting and stirring talk which was greatly enjoyed by all. * * * Although Armistice Day/Veterans' Day is still a week away I wanted to share this with you tonight. On November 14, 1931, I was only two months and two days old but during all of my growing up years, celebrating Armistice Day was just like it was back then. Since then, however, I have also deeply appreciated the meaning of Veterans' Day. Vee L. Housman, PNC, USNR, (ret.) (30 years service in the Navy)

Posted on: Niagara Co. NY Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/NY/Niagara/346 Surname: Heckman, Horton, Foster, Fenn, King, Baldwin, Vallier ------------------------- My father Richard Horton Heckman (Foster)was presumed married to Bernadette or Bernadine and living in North Tonawanda in 1946. They had a baby girl, Carol Ann Heckman. This was confirmed in the newspaper. She would be my half-sister. I was born in the late 1960's. After my father was married to another wife. He died in the late 1960's. They lived and worked in N. Tonawanda and possibly Lockport and The Greater Buffalo area until about 1949. If you have any information about this part of my father's life or any of his children, please let me know. Thank you, Barbara

Good Evening! This afternoon I called the Niagara County Clerk's Office to find out where the records are if an ancestor did not naturalize but continued to operate on the Green Card. The response was to call INS. Following several attempts, I was informed that a FOIA form must be submitted. If you are having this trouble with finding your ancestor, from the 20th century, try <www.ins.gov>, then find Form #G639. Good hunting! Ellen Colangelo Wilson, NY

Good Evening, Everyone, The Sept/Oct issue of "Family Chronicle" had an article regarding passenger ships of the turn of the century of the 1900's. From my husband's father's naturalization papers, I have known that he came over on the Prinzess Irene. The article spoke about that particular ship and its history. What a surprise that was! On the sidebar, there were a couple of URL's. When I checked them out, one was outstanding; and I suggest that, if you know the name of the ship your ancestor arrived on between 1890 and 1930, settle down and have fun. Look up <www.kinshipsprints.com> . Ms. Lucas has 2 prints of the Prinzess Irene on the site. Of course, I've sent for matted prints for my husband's children. Many blessings to you, Ellen Colangelo Wilson, NY

Just thought I'd relate an experience even though it turned up as a negative request (no record found)... I sent a request for a death certificate to Newfane last year (it was $11 according to the Town Clerk whom I talked to on the phone first) but when they didn't find anything they returned my uncashed check to me. I thought that was mighty nice of them. Barb Petty

Dear Group, This happened in Youngstown, NY. This evening I was thinking about Halloween and remembering how exciting a time it was for me as a kid. I was also remembering how nice a time it was for me when the little kids rang my own doorbell and I was greeted by their sing-song "Trick or Treat." The kids always had a special smile on their faces as they listened to our adult comments about how beautiful or funny or scary they looked in their costumes. And they always had a special look on their faces as they fixed their eyes on the treats that were dropped into their individual Halloween bags. And off they would run to the house next door to go through the same routine. But there was one Halloween that I remember in particular as an adult. It was about 15 years ago and I was at my friend Fred's house. He had prepared dinner for the two of us as well as two of his Swiss cousins (from Switzerland, of course!) who were visiting here on a holiday. We were all still sitting around the dinner table when the first of the Halloween kids rang the doorbell. I got up and answered the door and when I saw the costumes that the little boy and girl were dressed up in, I called their parents over and asked if the kids could come inside. It was OK and the kids shyly stepped in as well as their parents. I had told them that we had visitors from a foreign country who didn't know what Trick or Treating was all about. I briefly explained to Fred's cousins about the "begging" aspect of it and then I called the cousins' attention to the children's costumes. They were dressed up as little Pilgrims. And then I guess I put the little kids on the spot by asking them to tell our foreign guests what Pilgrims actually were. I must admit that the kids managed to find their tongues and tell a bit of the story-about Thanksgiving and all-and I believe that their parents kinda filled in a bit of the history of the Pilgrims. No doubt it was an absolute "first" for the kids to be asked inside anyone's house to tell the story behind their Halloween costumes. But at the same time, I have the feeling that the parents also felt proud that the kids were able to give a bit of a history lesson to two very interested foreigners. I wonder if those now-grown-up kids still remember that Halloween night? I still do. vee

Good Evening, Everyone, Elsa has asked me to clarify the BMD fees, which seem to be causing some confusion. All of the records, even though they are maintained at the locations of occurrance, are under the authority of New York State. The state has mandated certain fees to be charged for researching requests. The different clerks are now obligated to collect what the state demands. If one applies, in person, for documents, the fees, which I posted before, are in effect. Sometimes, if one applies, by mail and includes a lesser amount than mandated, the clerk's office will not follow up on a dollar or two especially if the amount is in a postal money order or certified check. The last time I applied for a certificate was last month, when we went to the North Country (Jefferson, St. Lawrence, Franklin, etc. Counties). The assistant clerk grinned and waved a NYS Form #DOH-1565 (4/93) at me and told me that I would have to fill it out. According to Mrs. Burrows at the Town Hall here in Wilson, all offices, unless the request is by letter, must use the NYS form and collect the mandated fee. If you have sent less than required in a letter request, you have been fortunate. I just hope that there aren't too many because I would hate to think that Albany might decide to increase the costs. Please check the Mailing List Archive for August 20, 2000 Subject: NY State Legal Certificates. Have fun! Ellen Colangelo Wilson, NY