Thank you for this suggestion. So often, I'm left waiting for answers that never appear! Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [NYNIAGAR] Descendants looked for of Albert & ElizabethSiegfried > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/1174.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > When posting to a Rootsweb board, it is nice to keep dialog going at the > board rather than in private e-mail. This way, others who might be > researching the same names can see results of inquiries. Also, people > should indicate what they already have so that volunteers do not spend > their time on redundant information. > > As I already mentioned to you, the most likely place to find descendants > would be through death notices. > > Joan > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: akaglenda Surnames: Durkin Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3115/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Please, anyone in Niagara Falls willing to do an obituary lookup? My grandfather, William Charles Durkin B. 5/11/1876 in Niagara Falls, N.Y. Died 5/27/1958 in Niagara Falls, N.Y. Burial on May 31, 1958. Services at St. Mary's Roman Catholic Church. Interment in St. Mary's Cemetary. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Linda Durkin Michaelis Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Forwarded from the Monroe County Mailing List by permission. Surname: WHYBRA Rochester, Monroe, NY Democrat & Chronicle Tue Sept 8, 1903 INTO NIAGARA MAELSTROM Man Jumps From Lower Steel Arch Bridge One Hundred Feet to River. Niagara Falls, Sept. 12 - Niagara Falls was started by another suicide this afternoon. This latest victim to Niagara's fascination did not elect the water route over the falls, but leaped from the lower or railway steel arch bridge to certain death in the wild waters of the whirlpool rapids. His name was John WHYBRA, a resident of this city, and man of family. He was a coachman in the employ of the Miller & Brundage Company. "He was passed upon the bridge shortly after 4 o'clock. None of the bridge attendants witnessed the suicide, the first news of which was given by a party of people who saw the awful drop while at the foot of the elevator between the two lower bridges. ----<>---- Find all the transcribed Monroe Co., NY Early News articles at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nymonnws/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BWoolhead0272 Surnames: A Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/3114/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Edwin & Isabelle Alvers are listed in the 1880 Census in Porter with their children Sarah, Alice, Anna, Cor, George, Edwin and Hattie. Does this family sound familiar to anyone out there? I believe Isabelle may be the daughter of Abraham and Esibel Carl and would like to verify. Any death notices of members of the family would be a great help in proving this. Thanks for any help you might be able to provide. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thank you for your insight, Steve. I had never considered that before about being disillusioned. If this was indeed the case, my Patriot was further burned by the federal government by being denied a pension for his service in the Revolutionary War (I got the impression that he moved back to the U.S. (census records are unavailable to confirm this due to fires) about the time he applied for the pension, which may explain why he returned (maybe you had to live in the U.S. to claim a pension?). Thanks, again, to you and everyone else who took the time to assist me with this quandary. [email protected] wrote: The easy part of your question is why did they go to Canada. Immediately after the Revolutionary War, many veterans became somewhat disillusioned with the federal and state governments since promises made to them of land were not fulfilled. In some cases, speculators stepped in and virtually stole the land from the vets. One such man was Tobias Maybee of Dutchess County who had served several years during the war, and then in the mid-1790s he left with his young family and moved to Canada where he joined his cousin John Mabee, a Sussex County Loyalist who had moved to Canada in the 1780s. The second part of your question has a similar answer. At various points in time, some Loyalists (and others who had belatedly gone to Canada in search of land grants) who had removed to Canada at Wars end also became disillusioned (this time with the British) when promises of land went unfulfilled. Ultimately, Buffalo was a convenient point on the frontier, with access to the great lakes for migration to points west. Steve In a message dated 3/29/2007 1:57:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Here is a question that has been bugging me a while: Why would someone who is known to have fought in the Revolutionary War move from the states to Canada after the War (where at least a few of his children were born; I think in Ontario), then back to the United States (in this case, Niagara Co., NY)? I have heard of those who were either opposed to the War or those who remained loyal to the King moving to Canada after the War, but not a patriot...just seemed a bit odd. Any thoughts? ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.

Thank you for your interesting insight! I thought there may be one clear answer, but you have pointed out many viable possibilities, all worth looking into....thanks! [email protected] wrote: A 4xgrest grandfather fought as a patriot and was apperantly captured, and as the story is told (facts recorded fit) lived with the indians a few years and finally escaped. He was in Canada and became acquainted there. Records indicated he traveled for a few years as young men often do, and returned to Canada (crossing the river) married and raised a family. He was caught in the war of 1812, served as a Canadian and recieved land for such service. Later he crossed the river settled in New York and claimed a pension for his Revolutionary war service. It seems that at his capture he was kept by the indians and not handed over as a prisoner as the government did not have him listed as a live prisoner, and assumed he was dead. His war papers and fight for recognition are quite extensive. He became a double dipper. With the boarder being an imaginary line in some places and a river that was oftend cross in other places nationality was not of great concern. Making a lively hood was in first place. Other relatives lost land in what became the United States and fled to Canada because of their religion (Quaker). Some of this land was later returned. Land in lower Quebec was advertised to entice other Americans to come to Canada for land offers. Some of my wife's relatives responded to this. You can see there are a number of possibilities. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.

I see a reference on the Web to a building at 1050 Elmwood Ave, Buffalo built by Curtiss and later occupied by Considated, that may be the building Bell started in after Consolidated went to San Diego. The Wheatfield plant opened in 1940. > [Original Message] > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 3/29/2007 11:20:20 PM > Subject: [NYNIAGAR] HART and Bell Aircraft > > From: "Sherry" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:52 AM > Subject: [NYNIAGAR] HART in Lockport/Buffalo, Ny area? > >I am literally searching for a needle in a haystack. I am looking for a > >man with the last name of HART who would have worked at the Bell Aircraft > >Plant in Buffalo, NY in the 1942-1943 time frame. First name may have been > >WIlliam, but this is not confirmed. I believe he MIGHThave been born in > >the 1900-1916 time frame, but I have so little to go on I can't be sure. > > > > Are there any Hart families on the 1930 census from this area? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > My best, > > Sherry Jesberger > > > Sherry, > I just happened to do a little research on Bell Aircraft. > Lawrence Bell took over a factory in Buffalo where planes were made, called > Consolidated, and named it Bell Aircraft, in 1935. Unfortunately I can't > remember where it was in Buffalo, I was concentrating on the Wheatfield plant, > built starting in 1940. > Don't know when the Buffalo plant discontinued, but the company was heavily > into defense contracts during WWII, then had to scramble for contracts after > the war. I remember a statement regarding the Niagara Frontier Division > (Buffalo and Wheatfield), to the effect that 59% of the workforce during the war > were women, so it must have still been open through the war. > ET > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: "Sherry" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:52 AM Subject: [NYNIAGAR] HART in Lockport/Buffalo, Ny area? >I am literally searching for a needle in a haystack. I am looking for a >man with the last name of HART who would have worked at the Bell Aircraft >Plant in Buffalo, NY in the 1942-1943 time frame. First name may have been >WIlliam, but this is not confirmed. I believe he MIGHThave been born in >the 1900-1916 time frame, but I have so little to go on I can't be sure. > > Are there any Hart families on the 1930 census from this area? > > Thanks in advance. > > My best, > Sherry Jesberger Sherry, I just happened to do a little research on Bell Aircraft. Lawrence Bell took over a factory in Buffalo where planes were made, called Consolidated, and named it Bell Aircraft, in 1935. Unfortunately I can't remember where it was in Buffalo, I was concentrating on the Wheatfield plant, built starting in 1940. Don't know when the Buffalo plant discontinued, but the company was heavily into defense contracts during WWII, then had to scramble for contracts after the war. I remember a statement regarding the Niagara Frontier Division (Buffalo and Wheatfield), to the effect that 59% of the workforce during the war were women, so it must have still been open through the war. ET ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

It may have been as simple as a beautiful woman in Canada offered more than life in the US. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Gene Love <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: Sussex NJ mailing list <[email protected]>, Niagara Co Mailing List <[email protected]> Subject: [NYNIAGAR] Question about migration Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Here is a question that has been bugging me a while: Why would someone who is known to have fought in the Revolutionary War move from the states to Canada after the War (where at least a few of his children were born; I think in Ontario), then back to the United States (in this case, Niagara Co., NY)? I have heard of those who were either opposed to the War or those who remained loyal to the King moving to Canada after the War, but not a patriot...just seemed a bit odd. Any thoughts? --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/

My dad worked there in that time frame and later also, but he is gone now. I think they did have a plant in Buffalo near where Western Electric and Williams Tool were located, as well as in NF. My dad was born 1896 and his pension from Bell after ~ten years of service was $25/mo. After being retired a while that was increased to $45/mo. Of course there were no survivor benefits for my mom. The good old days may not have been that good after all. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "RAYMOND CAMPBELL" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NYNIAGAR] HART in Lockport/Buffalo, Ny area? Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:03:56 -0700 I know for a fact that Bell Aircraft Co. was in Niagara Falls where they made the P-39 Airacobra plane. I was not aware Bell Aircraft was in Buffalo. Curtis Wright was in Buffalo and built the P-40 Tomahawk airplane. Don't know if this helps you. Ray Campbell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:52 AM Subject: [NYNIAGAR] HART in Lockport/Buffalo, Ny area? >I am literally searching for a needle in a haystack. I am looking for a >man with the last name of HART who would have worked at the Bell Aircraft >Plant in Buffalo, NY in the 1942-1943 time frame. First name may have been >WIlliam, but this is not confirmed. I believe he MIGHThave been born in >the 1900-1916 time frame, but I have so little to go on I can't be sure. > > Are there any Hart families on the 1930 census from this area? > > Thanks in advance. > > My best, > Sherry Jesberger > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]eb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglinemarch07

A 4xgrest grandfather fought as a patriot and was apperantly captured, and as the story is told (facts recorded fit) lived with the indians a few years and finally escaped. He was in Canada and became acquainted there. Records indicated he traveled for a few years as young men often do, and returned to Canada (crossing the river) married and raised a family. He was caught in the war of 1812, served as a Canadian and recieved land for such service. Later he crossed the river settled in New York and claimed a pension for his Revolutionary war service. It seems that at his capture he was kept by the indians and not handed over as a prisoner as the government did not have him listed as a live prisoner, and assumed he was dead. His war papers and fight for recognition are quite extensive. He became a double dipper. With the boarder being an imaginary line in some places and a river that was oftend cross in other places nationality was not of great concern. Making a lively hood was in first place. Other relatives lost land in what became the United States and fled to Canada because of their religion (Quaker). Some of this land was later returned. Land in lower Quebec was advertised to entice other Americans to come to Canada for land offers. Some of my wife's relatives responded to this. You can see there are a number of possibilities. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

my grandfather worked for Bell Aircraft however he has passed away sorry Claudia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 1:52 PM Subject: [NYNIAGAR] HART in Lockport/Buffalo, Ny area? >I am literally searching for a needle in a haystack. I am looking for a >man with the last name of HART who would have worked at the Bell Aircraft >Plant in Buffalo, NY in the 1942-1943 time frame. First name may have been >WIlliam, but this is not confirmed. I believe he MIGHThave been born in >the 1900-1916 time frame, but I have so little to go on I can't be sure. > > Are there any Hart families on the 1930 census from this area? > > Thanks in advance. > > My best, > Sherry Jesberger > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sherry, There are quite a few Hart households in Erie and Niagara County, however only one Buffalo city, Erie, NY, sheet 31B that has a William H., b. (1907) in your time frame. He is Sone of William and Caroline and was a clerk at a steel co. in 1930. There are 7 male Hart's b. in your time frame in Niagara but no William's. There are ~35 males Hart's b. in your time frame including the one William. Jim Schmidt > [Original Message] > From: Sherry <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 3/29/2007 1:53:08 PM > Subject: [NYNIAGAR] HART in Lockport/Buffalo, Ny area? > > I am literally searching for a needle in a haystack. I am looking for a man with the last name of HART who would have worked at the Bell Aircraft Plant in Buffalo, NY in the 1942-1943 time frame. First name may have been WIlliam, but this is not confirmed. I believe he MIGHThave been born in the 1900-1916 time frame, but I have so little to go on I can't be sure. > > Are there any Hart families on the 1930 census from this area? > > Thanks in advance. > > My best, > Sherry Jesberger > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am literally searching for a needle in a haystack. I am looking for a man with the last name of HART who would have worked at the Bell Aircraft Plant in Buffalo, NY in the 1942-1943 time frame. First name may have been WIlliam, but this is not confirmed. I believe he MIGHThave been born in the 1900-1916 time frame, but I have so little to go on I can't be sure. Are there any Hart families on the 1930 census from this area? Thanks in advance. My best, Sherry Jesberger

Sherry Was his wife's name, Caroline M ?? (He) Born abt. 1881. If so, they are listed in the 1930 census. You can view that at http://search.ancestry.com If you are a member. Do a search for W Hart. NY--NY and the approximant year of birth. Hope this helps, Jim > >I am literally searching for a needle in a haystack. I am looking for a > >man with the last name of HART who would have worked at the Bell Aircraft > >Plant in Buffalo, NY in the 1942-1943 time frame. First name may have been > >WIlliam, but this is not confirmed. I believe he MIGHT have been born in > >the 1900-1916 time frame, but I have so little to go on I can't be sure. > > > > Are there any Hart families on the 1930 census from this area? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > My best, > > Sherry Jesberger

I know for a fact that Bell Aircraft Co. was in Niagara Falls where they made the P-39 Airacobra plane. I was not aware Bell Aircraft was in Buffalo. Curtis Wright was in Buffalo and built the P-40 Tomahawk airplane. Don't know if this helps you. Ray Campbell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:52 AM Subject: [NYNIAGAR] HART in Lockport/Buffalo, Ny area? >I am literally searching for a needle in a haystack. I am looking for a >man with the last name of HART who would have worked at the Bell Aircraft >Plant in Buffalo, NY in the 1942-1943 time frame. First name may have been >WIlliam, but this is not confirmed. I believe he MIGHThave been born in >the 1900-1916 time frame, but I have so little to go on I can't be sure. > > Are there any Hart families on the 1930 census from this area? > > Thanks in advance. > > My best, > Sherry Jesberger > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here is a question that has been bugging me a while: Why would someone who is known to have fought in the Revolutionary War move from the states to Canada after the War (where at least a few of his children were born; I think in Ontario), then back to the United States (in this case, Niagara Co., NY)? I have heard of those who were either opposed to the War or those who remained loyal to the King moving to Canada after the War, but not a patriot...just seemed a bit odd. Any thoughts? --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.

Forwarded from the Monroe County Mailing List by permissioin. Surnames: MILLER, BROWN Rochester, Monroe, NY Democrat & Chronicle Sat Oct 24, 1891 NIAGARA --Mrs. Sewell MILLER, of Wilson, died Wednesday, aged 63. She leaves three children. --The residence of George A. BROWN, in Newfane, was entered by a sneak thief Thursday evening while the family were down stairs and a pocket-book containing promissory notes valued at $600, two gold bracelets and a gold chain were stolen. Find all the transcribed Monroe Co., NY Early News articles at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nymonnws/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Annette_Dawn Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.niagara/1704.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Appears as if the "plot" thickens..(pun) We may have found Grampa buried with HIS father in the same cemetery plot. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Forwarded from the Monroe County Mailing List by permission. Surnames: WILLE, URIEL, RICKARD Rochester, Monroe, NY Democrat & Chronicle Sat May 1, 1926 NIAGARA Cats and Dogs Killed, Bodies Put in Creek Pollution of Stream Stirs County Authorities to Investigation Poison Theory Held Creek Used by Farmers to Water Stock; Leads to Trout Brook Lockport, April 30 - An investigation by local authorities which may result in serious charges was under way to-day following the discovery of a number of dead dogs and cats in Clark's creek, a small stream in the town of Lockport, east of Young's Bridge. The investigation is being carried on by Sheriff Elton L. WILLE, Supervisor Raymond W. URIEL, chairman of the Health Board of the town of Lockport, with the co-operation of the Lockport police. The stream is adjacent to the farm of Supervisor URIEL who made the discovery and instigated proceedings to fix the responsibility. The bodies were found to be in varying stages of decomposition, leading authorities to believe they had been thrown in the creek different times throughout the winter. The aid of local police was enlisted to determine if any of the animals shot in this city were among those discovered, but it was found none of the animals met death in this way. The authorities believe that they were poisoned and the bodies dumped in the creek. Sheriff WILLE declared vigorous prosecution may follow leads now being investigated. The creek in which the bodies were found is used by several farmers to water their stock and it drains into another brook which has been stocked with trout by the State Conservation Commission. ----<>---- SIXTH INDIAN HELD IN THEFT OF TIRES Lockport, April 20 - Herman RICKARD, 20 years old, a Tuscarora Indian, was arrested to-day at LaSalle on a bench warrant issued by the district attorney's office here, and is in jail awaiting arraignment on an indictment charging burglary, third degree, and grand larceny. RICKARD is one of six Indians indicted by the April Grand Jury for the theft of several tires from the Mason garage, town of Lewiston on August 14th last. The arrest of the six Indians raises the question of the state's jurisdiction, and it has been cited that a Supreme Court decision in another case gave to the Federal courts the jurisdiction in a list of several offenses, among which is larceny. Find all the transcribed Monroe Co., NY Early News articles at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nymonnws/