I too would be interested if such an organization exists. My Thomas HOLMES was a shipjoiner in NYC during the years 1820 - abt 1850/55 . Born in 1784-85, probably in the City, he is my brick wall. Perhaps this new information, if it does indeed exist, would help me in determining who his parents were... Jackie ---------------------------------------- Heidi at lamhydee@aol.com wrote > Is there any type of trade organization for a man whose occupation in the 1850s was a "ship joiner?" Where might I find that kind of information? --------------------------------------- My Surnames: Beardsley... Brodhead... Brown... Bunnel/Bunnell... Christie... Connors... Demarest... Erbrecht... Haring... Hasbrouck... Hayden... Hinz... Holmes... Husted... Ludwig... Mosher... Ogden... Pierson... Thorpe... Tribert; NY, NJ, CT, IL Homepage: http://community-2.webtv.net/bunny-jo/ECHOSFROMTHEPAST3/ View my genealogy queries: http://cousinconnect.com/p/a/0/u/52742/