Have you tried Ancestry.com's military records? They're free until 6/6 and include some Civil War material; you might get lucky. Have you found them in any US censuses? The 1880 US census (free on www.familysearch.org) has several Patrick Farrell born about 1840. I didn't examine all, but at least one has wife Catherine and son Edward age 14yrs born NY. However, they're in Brooklyn. J Torre ----- Original Message ----- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 16:55:13 -0700 (PDT) From: joe farrell <joefarrell2@yahoo.com> Subject: [NYNEWYOR] find information on great grand parents I M LOOKNG FOR ANY INFORMATION ON MY G-G PARENTS PATRICK[PAT] FARRELL AND KATHERINE[CATHARINE] OR POSSIBLY BRIDGET FARRELL NEE QUALEY.PATRICK ASI UNDERSTAND WAS BORN HERE IN THE U.S.A AND KATHERINE HIS WIFE WAS BORN IN IRELAND BOTH SHOULD BEEN BORN ABOUT THE SAME TIME1840 GIVE A TAKE AFEW YEARS.THEY MAY HAVE LIVED IN HARLEM OR SOUTH BRONX AROUND THE 1860S AND 1870S. PAT MAY HAVE BEEN ACIVIL WAR VET.THEY HAD 3SONS I KNOW OF JOHN[MY GRAND FATHER] JAMES AN ALDERMAN INTHE EARLY 1900S EDWARD A DOCTOR AT ST.FRANCIS HOSPITAL IN THE SOUTH BRONX EARLY 1900S. ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED. JOEFARRELL2@YAHOO.COM