yes, see, that is an issue. They appear in the Smethwick (Staffordshire UK) 1861 census, Robert is a master cabinet Maker (and Victualer but , heh, seems a common thing in England). I could not find emigration/immigration for them. A son may have emigrated with a cousin Perkins in 1865/6....... Don't know if he followed a parent, or if they followed him. I have an almost perfect match for Robert Walker (jr) and James Perkins coming to the states but in either case Robert and Sarah Elisabeth (BLUNT) Walker were not on the same vessel. All I know is they were in England in 1861 and one shows up dead NY 1865 and reinterned later. I do have a death card the family published (for each) but it gives only death date and that they died in NY, not defining Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn, etc. Sadly, even though I have them in the 1861 England census, their arrival and deaths fall into the hole of USA census, being 60 and 70. Shoot me now :) Gabriele this has been such a brick wall for a long time ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Garrity To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Cemteries / Evergreen Gabrielle, do you have copies of their death records? Where did they reside at the time of their passing? I would bet that they were originally buried in another cemetery/churchyard initially. According to Carolee Inskeep's Book, "The Graveyard Shift", Evergreen received thousands of re-interments from burial grounds in Manhattan, which were being phased out so the land they stood on would be available for redevelopment for other uses. Jim Gabriele Harkey wrote: > ok, I should have asked them this but they were looking at me like I was nuts so I did not think of it: > > would the word *re-interned* imply there were moved there from within the cemetery or from somewhere else, or is there no way of knowing that yet? I think renovation or something, but then since both were dead by the first re-internment, I guess it makes no sense. > > Gabriele > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gabriele Harkey > To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 5:12 PM > Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Cemteries / Evergreen more info > > Buried in the Evergreens Cemetery, Brooklyn, New York > No. 2654 Path Side > Robert E Walker, re-interned June 22,1872 > E. S. Walker, re-interned February 8, 1877 > > sigh > > Gabriele > ----- Original Message ----- > From: MizScarlettNY@aol.com > To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 5:10 PM > Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Cemteries / Evergreen > > Hi Gabriele, > I'll check out the history of Evergreen and get back to you. > It sounds like one hand doesn't know what the other's doing. > > Barb > N of NYC > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

and I did go to the Library, looked through all the death cards on file there, and any census between 1861 and 1869, nothing that matches ----- Original Message ----- From: Gabriele Harkey To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Cemteries / Evergreen yes, see, that is an issue. They appear in the Smethwick (Staffordshire UK) 1861 census, Robert is a master cabinet Maker (and Victualer but , heh, seems a common thing in England). I could not find emigration/immigration for them. A son may have emigrated with a cousin Perkins in 1865/6....... Don't know if he followed a parent, or if they followed him. I have an almost perfect match for Robert Walker (jr) and James Perkins coming to the states but in either case Robert and Sarah Elisabeth (BLUNT) Walker were not on the same vessel. All I know is they were in England in 1861 and one shows up dead NY 1865 and reinterned later. I do have a death card the family published (for each) but it gives only death date and that they died in NY, not defining Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn, etc. Sadly, even though I have them in the 1861 England census, their arrival and deaths fall into the hole of USA census, being 60 and 70. Shoot me now :) Gabriele this has been such a brick wall for a long time ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Garrity To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Cemteries / Evergreen Gabrielle, do you have copies of their death records? Where did they reside at the time of their passing? I would bet that they were originally buried in another cemetery/churchyard initially. According to Carolee Inskeep's Book, "The Graveyard Shift", Evergreen received thousands of re-interments from burial grounds in Manhattan, which were being phased out so the land they stood on would be available for redevelopment for other uses. Jim Gabriele Harkey wrote: > ok, I should have asked them this but they were looking at me like I was nuts so I did not think of it: > > would the word *re-interned* imply there were moved there from within the cemetery or from somewhere else, or is there no way of knowing that yet? I think renovation or something, but then since both were dead by the first re-internment, I guess it makes no sense. > > Gabriele > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gabriele Harkey > To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 5:12 PM > Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Cemteries / Evergreen more info > > Buried in the Evergreens Cemetery, Brooklyn, New York > No. 2654 Path Side > Robert E Walker, re-interned June 22,1872 > E. S. Walker, re-interned February 8, 1877 > > sigh > > Gabriele > ----- Original Message ----- > From: MizScarlettNY@aol.com > To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 5:10 PM > Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Cemteries / Evergreen > > Hi Gabriele, > I'll check out the history of Evergreen and get back to you. > It sounds like one hand doesn't know what the other's doing. > > Barb > N of NYC > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What are the dates of both deaths, Gabriele? Jim Gabriele Harkey wrote: > yes, see, that is an issue. They appear in the Smethwick (Staffordshire UK) 1861 census, Robert is a master cabinet Maker (and Victualer but , heh, seems a common thing in England). > > I could not find emigration/immigration for them. A son may have emigrated with a cousin Perkins in 1865/6....... Don't know if he followed a parent, or if they followed him. I have an almost perfect match for Robert Walker (jr) and James Perkins coming to the states but in either case Robert and Sarah Elisabeth (BLUNT) Walker were not on the same vessel. > > All I know is they were in England in 1861 and one shows up dead NY 1865 and reinterned later. I do have a death card the family published (for each) but it gives only death date and that they died in NY, not defining Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn, etc. > > Sadly, even though I have them in the 1861 England census, their arrival and deaths fall into the hole of USA census, being 60 and 70. > > Shoot me now :) > > Gabriele > > this has been such a brick wall for a long time > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Garrity > To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 5:33 PM > Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Cemteries / Evergreen > > Gabrielle, do you have copies of their death records? Where did they reside at the time of their passing? > > I would bet that they were originally buried in another cemetery/churchyard initially. According to Carolee Inskeep's Book, "The Graveyard Shift", Evergreen received thousands of re-interments from burial grounds in Manhattan, which were being phased out so the land > they stood on would be available for redevelopment for other uses. > > Jim > > Gabriele Harkey wrote: > > > ok, I should have asked them this but they were looking at me like I was nuts so I did not think of it: > > > > would the word *re-interned* imply there were moved there from within the cemetery or from somewhere else, or is there no way of knowing that yet? I think renovation or something, but then since both were dead by the first re-internment, I guess it makes no sense. > > > > Gabriele > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gabriele Harkey > > To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 5:12 PM > > Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Cemteries / Evergreen more info > > > > Buried in the Evergreens Cemetery, Brooklyn, New York > > No. 2654 Path Side > > Robert E Walker, re-interned June 22,1872 > > E. S. Walker, re-interned February 8, 1877 > > > > sigh > > > > Gabriele > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: MizScarlettNY@aol.com > > To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 5:10 PM > > Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Cemteries / Evergreen > > > > Hi Gabriele, > > I'll check out the history of Evergreen and get back to you. > > It sounds like one hand doesn't know what the other's doing. > > > > Barb > > N of NYC > > > > ************************************* > > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ************************************* > > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message