You said that you have the deed information--did that include who bought the plot deed? That could be a clue as to who they followed to the US. I think you are right older people just don't pick up to start a new life in another country unless they were following someone there (good chance it was a daughter). Who is now buried in the plot they were previously buried in? They might be relatives. Passenger lists for that time period are really tough, not much to work with. Was there anything generated by the English for people leaving the country that might help? I know in Sweden the church records indicated when the individual was leaving the country. They had a state church like England has the "Church of England"--is there anything that might have been generated by them? What about papers in their hometown in England that might be like a "gossip column" where by they mention that they are going to see relatives in the states? That's about all I can think of--it seems like you have covered all your basis and the window of time you have to work with is so slim! Good Luck, Joan -------------- Original message -------------- From: "N. Gabriele Harkey" <ngharkey@sbcglobal.net> > Does anyone have people buried there? > It turns out I have 2, one died 1865 and was reinterred there in 1872, the > other died in > 1869 and was reinterred there in 1877. This makes no sense to me. > > I have the deed and have visited the cemetery. As luck would have it, this > is the ONLY > part of the cemetery that has gone to waste. The office was surprised to > see there was a deed > for the plots they were in as it was the *indigent* section and most plots > were free, pauper > burials, some in groups. A caretaker took the plat map and walked out where > approximately > the graves would have been. Of course there are no stones anymore. > > The ledger in the office had the information for the deed but not when it > was bought, or why they > were reinterred there, and even more oddly, why not together. > > Husband died in 1865 and was moved there in 1872. > Wife dies in 1869 and gets moved in 1877. > One would think they would have been moved together in 1872 as both were > dead by then. > > Has anyone dealt with the archivist there? How hard is it to deal with > them. The people > in the cemetery office said that is where I might find the answers. > They were all very helpful. > > > tia, > Gabriele > > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Husband and wife could have been buried in different cemeteries -- different states, even. The last to die might have moved on to live with a child or for other reasons such as to an old peoples home. Bodies were moved out of Manhattan during a certain period, so maybe one or both were moved for that reason. Only a few small historical cemeteries of wealthy and historical people remain in Manhattan. It seems like someone tried to get them back together at some point, probably the person who purchased the plot. ----- Original Message ----- From: sadiegirl06@comcast.net To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Evergreen Cemetery / Brooklyn You said that you have the deed information--did that include who bought the plot deed? That could be a clue as to who they followed to the US. I think you are right older people just don't pick up to start a new life in another country unless they were following someone there (good chance it was a daughter). Who is now buried in the plot they were previously buried in? They might be relatives. Passenger lists for that time period are really tough, not much to work with. Was there anything generated by the English for people leaving the country that might help? I know in Sweden the church records indicated when the individual was leaving the country. They had a state church like England has the "Church of England"--is there anything that might have been generated by them? What about papers in their hometown in England that might be like a "gossip column" where by they mention that they are going to see relatives in the states? That's about all I can think of--it seems like you have covered all your basis and the window of time you have to work with is so slim! Good Luck, Joan -------------- Original message -------------- From: "N. Gabriele Harkey" <ngharkey@sbcglobal.net> > Does anyone have people buried there? > It turns out I have 2, one died 1865 and was reinterred there in 1872, the > other died in > 1869 and was reinterred there in 1877. This makes no sense to me. > > I have the deed and have visited the cemetery. As luck would have it, this > is the ONLY > part of the cemetery that has gone to waste. The office was surprised to > see there was a deed > for the plots they were in as it was the *indigent* section and most plots > were free, pauper > burials, some in groups. A caretaker took the plat map and walked out where > approximately > the graves would have been. Of course there are no stones anymore. > > The ledger in the office had the information for the deed but not when it > was bought, or why they > were reinterred there, and even more oddly, why not together. > > Husband died in 1865 and was moved there in 1872. > Wife dies in 1869 and gets moved in 1877. > One would think they would have been moved together in 1872 as both were > dead by then. > > Has anyone dealt with the archivist there? How hard is it to deal with > them. The people > in the cemetery office said that is where I might find the answers. > They were all very helpful. > > > tia, > Gabriele > > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message