Sue, I had basically the same problem with one of my ancestors as you have been having. In addition to the suggestions that you have already received I suggest that you get state census instead of the federal census. These were done inbetween the federal census. There is no index to them however. The trick is to find the father's name and address before the family is split. Once you have the address you will then need to find the ward/ or ED number to the nearest census you want (ie; fed census 1900/ state census 1905). You can probably get this by just calling or emailing the NYPL or the Muni Archives. Once you get the reel that has that year you go to the ED/Ward number and start searching for your family. I found my lost family this way and was quite sucessful with it using the 1865 NY state census and the 1915 census. Orphan assylums were enumerated in each of the census but the child's age might be off quite a number of years or their name altered in some way. Good Luck Joan -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Sue Maxwell" <suemaxwell@comcast.net> > I have a very complicated problem I am trying to figure out. > > The parents James and Anna Bloomfield are listed on the 1900 census with three > of their four children: Marion Colton, Helen Leffert and James Myers. Apparently > another girl named Dorothy Colton was born about 1903. Dorothy was apparently > put into an orphanage at age 1. No one knows what happened to the parents, as > each child was adopted, and i have the names of the persons who adopted them. > The only one I can track is James, who was in the New York Orphan Asylum in > 1910. So I suspect that Dorothy was there, also, but was adopted inbetween > census records. > Dorothy married an ancestor named Phillip Vollmer. Her adopted father is > Archibald Haynes. > > I am having the worst trouble trying to find any of these children on early > census records, even with the names of the people who adopted them. I have been > working all day for several days, on ancestry, trying diff. ways to figure this > all out. > > I can't figure out what happened to the parents, either. > > Does anyone have any suggestions? > > Would the records of this former asylum be available? > > Sue > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

actually, I have been working on the sly with Marilyn, because it is so mysterious; we have been finding things; James had a first wife that he divorsed- that marriage produced the first two girls; he then remarried and lived in Vermont; they had a son and later a daughter- but I think the last daughter was born in NYC, according to my cousin. I have all of the names of who adopted whom. I found out that James got murdered but I can't figure out what happened to his second wife. I just went over to the library and printed out tons of articles, so slowly we are figuring out the situation. I have been doing this privately, as it takes so long to get an email to the site. Thanks for your thoughts- I am going to go up to SL and look at state census records and city directories, etc. I have found alot of references on the net also. It really helps to have someone help with a tough problem, and I appreciate everyone's assistance. I am so involved with researching for several books I am co-authoring, that I can't help others at the moment, but when that and my MS is done, then I will be more free to be a helper, also. The problem has us both very intrigued- a real mystery. Sue Maxwell ----- Original Message ----- From: <sadiegirl06@comcast.net> To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] New York Orphan Asylum > Sue, > I had basically the same problem with one of my ancestors as you have been > having. In addition to the suggestions that you have already received I > suggest that you get state census instead of the federal census. These > were done inbetween the federal census. There is no index to them > however. The trick is to find the father's name and address before the > family is split. Once you have the address you will then need to find the > ward/ or ED number to the nearest census you want (ie; fed census 1900/ > state census 1905). You can probably get this by just calling or emailing > the NYPL or the Muni Archives. Once you get the reel that has that year > you go to the ED/Ward number and start searching for your family. > I found my lost family this way and was quite sucessful with it using the > 1865 NY state census and the 1915 census. > Orphan assylums were enumerated in each of the census but the child's age > might be off quite a number of years or their name altered in some way. > Good Luck > Joan > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Sue Maxwell" <suemaxwell@comcast.net> > >> I have a very complicated problem I am trying to figure out. >> >> The parents James and Anna Bloomfield are listed on the 1900 census with >> three >> of their four children: Marion Colton, Helen Leffert and James Myers. >> Apparently >> another girl named Dorothy Colton was born about 1903. Dorothy was >> apparently >> put into an orphanage at age 1. No one knows what happened to the >> parents, as >> each child was adopted, and i have the names of the persons who adopted >> them. >> The only one I can track is James, who was in the New York Orphan Asylum >> in >> 1910. So I suspect that Dorothy was there, also, but was adopted >> inbetween >> census records. >> Dorothy married an ancestor named Phillip Vollmer. Her adopted father is >> Archibald Haynes. >> >> I am having the worst trouble trying to find any of these children on >> early >> census records, even with the names of the people who adopted them. I >> have been >> working all day for several days, on ancestry, trying diff. ways to >> figure this >> all out. >> >> I can't figure out what happened to the parents, either. >> >> Does anyone have any suggestions? >> >> Would the records of this former asylum be available? >> >> Sue >> Jim Garrity, List Administrator >> jimgarrity@earthlink.net >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just to set the record straight, there is a Manhattan and part of the Bronx street address index for the 1905, 1915 and 1925 which I have used in the Genealogy Room of the NYPL at 5th Avenue and 42nd Street. It will give you the AD,ED, and page numbers for a specific address and from there you can easily find the correct microfilm to use to find the actual census pages. For the 1915 NYS census for Kings County I have seen a looseleaf book in the FHL Mormon Center in Plainview, NY (Long Island) which gives you the AD , ED number and you can go through all the pages of that specific microfilm to find the address you want. Diane Jacobs Somerset, NJ Sue, I had basically the same problem with one of my ancestors as you have been having. In addition to the suggestions that you have already received I suggest that you get state census instead of the federal census. These were done inbetween the federal census. There is no index to them however. The trick is to find the father's name and address before the family is split. Once you have the address you will then need to find the ward/ or ED number to the nearest census you want (ie; fed census 1900/ state census 1905). You can probably get this by just calling or emailing the NYPL or the Muni Archives. Once you get the reel that has that year you go to the ED/Ward number and start searching for your family. I found my lost family this way and was quite sucessful with it using the 1865 NY state census and the 1915 census. Orphan assylums were enumerated in each of the census but the child's age might be off quite a number of years or their name altered in some way. Good Luck Joan