Another way to find a free Obit/Death Notice online is to execute a Google search. This may not lead you to a full Obituary, but it may link you to the specific newspaper article, especially in the New York Times. This method may also lead you to scanned out-of-print books that include your ancestor's name, such as old directories, voter registrations, and court transcripts. In the case of Madeline's ancestor, I'd enter it into Google like this, no quotation marks> Herman Kneib in NY, NY RESULTS> 1) 1862 Trow's Directory> https://books.google.com/books?id=kJEtAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA471&lpg=PA471&dq=Herman+Kneib+in+NY,+NY&source=bl&ots=QSLYCyUnSR&sig=zFlINBHeovRleEaZKsJQaFoQb5g&hl=en&sa=X&ei=SQiQVfgtypuDBMT-ovAG&ved=0CE0Q6AEwCTgK#v=onepage&q=Herman%20Kneib%20in%20NY%2C%20NY&f=false 2) General Slocum Disaster ...lists a KNEIB Barb -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] via <[email protected]> If any kind soul on the list does have subscription access,either personally or thru their library, and would be nice enough to see ifthey could find a death notice and/or obituary in the metro NYC area for any KNEIB, Herman died 18 November, 1892/Manhattan KNEIB, Barara wife died 02 May, 1913/Manhattan I would be most appreciative. Thankyou, Madeline