What is the source of the Marriage Index? Barb -----Original Message----- From: Vincent E. Summers via <[email protected]> To: nynewyor <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Mar 4, 2015 3:54 pm Subject: [NYNEWYOR] KEARNEY - RADECK Marriage Request I'm tracking down a toughie. Can you assist? New York, New York Marriage Index Hannah Radeck and James A. Kearney 8 Aug 1912 Manhattan Hannah was hit by a truck and killed in 1919. Her husband disappeared. But he is SO hard to track, I'm seeking to learn as much as I can about his history. Thanks, Vince Summers ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone have any ideas where I should look for this marriage: Harriet A. Beasley (Beesley) married Allen C. Reynolds Jan. 1810. Harriet states in applying for Allen C. Reynolds pension for the War of 1812, that they were married in New York City. In January 1810 I don't know if that would have been Manhattan, Brooklyn or any other part of New York City. They had four children, and in her application she stated that all four children were born in New York City/ A son: Lewis Allen Reynolds, daughters: Susanna or Susan A Reynolds, Harriet Jane Reynolds, and Elizabeth (Eliza) Reynolds. I have been told by another source that there might have been another daughter, Sorphrina who did not move to Texas with the family in 1831. Allen Reynolds was living in Matamoros Mexico in 1828, the family was still living in New York Ciity until 1831 when all moved to Columbia Texas and then Harris County Tx. Harriet Beasley Reynolds father was Thomas Beasley. Newspaper article stated that he died in 1824 Allen C. Reynolds father was Elnathan Reynolds, his mother Susan Cross Reynolds. Allen was born in Conn. 1786 Harriet was born in approx. 1792 in New York City I would like to know was the custom during that time to be married in the brides parents home, or would Allen and Harriet have been married in a Church? I have been told the Beasleys were Baptists. Don't know that for certain And surely the children were baptized if I can find the church perhaps I can find if they were baptized. Does anyone know how many churches were in New York City in 1810. There really weren't that many people in the City at that time. Perhaps 30,000. I should be able to track down a church. Any help would be appreciated. L.Scott [email protected]

I'm tracking down a toughie. Can you assist? New York, New York Marriage Index Hannah Radeck and James A. Kearney 8 Aug 1912 Manhattan Hannah was hit by a truck and killed in 1919. Her husband disappeared. But he is SO hard to track, I'm seeking to learn as much as I can about his history. Thanks, Vince Summers

While searching for Mt. Olivet Cemetery in Queens, NYC, I happened upon this site called "THE FORGOTTEN OF ELLIS ISLAND" Deaths in Quarantine, 1909-1911 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~quarantine/cemetery.htm#MOC Interesting links and info about Hoffman & Swinburne Islands, off of Staten Island, "The following individuals died in Quarantine at the Hospitals for Contagious Diseases which were located on Hoffman and Swinburne Islands in Richmond County, New York. Most of them were immigrants en route to Ellis Island who were removed from ships in the outer harbor of the port of New York by the New York State Medical Inspectors and transferred to these two hospitals. Their families would have continued on to Ellis Island for inspection and probably were detained while awaiting the disposition of the sick child or family member." The authors researched 400 death certificates and wrote a short bio of each person>. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~quarantine/quar_a.htm I hope this helps someone find missing family. Barb

Non-stop trip? If stopped, check ships from secondport. Estimate: no more than 6 weeks Perhaps a grandmother brought the baby over when older? From: Gail via [email protected] How long would it have taken to go from Germany toNew York she was born Aug 24,1883 [PARENTS] came to New York Dec4,1883.Gail

No one in our family knows if she came over later or not. From what I have been told they did not talk about there life in Germany at all so who knows what happen. Gail From: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 4:51 PM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Michael Koschmider Non-stop trip? If stopped, check ships from secondport. Estimate: no more than 6 weeks Perhaps a grandmother brought the baby over when older? From: Gail via [email protected] How long would it have taken to go from Germany to New York she was born Aug 24,1883 [PARENTS] came to New York Dec 4,1883. Gail

I have not found her at all.How long would it have taken to go from Germany to New York she was born Aug 24,1883 they came to New York Dec 4,1883. Gail From: Billie Elias Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 7:18 AM To: Diane Jacobs ; [email protected] Cc: gailharms Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Michael Koschmider Or she could have been put in quarantine if she was ill. That's sometimes on another page. Might they have left her in Germany and gone back for her or had someone else bring her? Did you check for her name on other ships? Billie Elias www.genealogygal.wordpress.com On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Diane Jacobs via <[email protected]> wrote: She could have been born at sea. Diane Jacobs -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of gailharms via Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 4:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Michael Koschmider My gg grandparents Michael and Anna Koschmider came to the US from Germany on Dec 4,1883 on the ship Oder they landed at Castel Garden. There daughter my g grandmother Josephine Helen Koschmider was born Aug 1883 Germany she is not listed with them on the ship.Why would she not be listed. Thank you Gail ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Or she could have been put in quarantine if she was ill. That's sometimes on another page. Might they have left her in Germany and gone back for her or had someone else bring her? Did you check for her name on other ships? Billie Elias www.genealogygal.wordpress.com On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Diane Jacobs via <[email protected]> wrote: > She could have been born at sea. > > Diane Jacobs > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of gailharms via > Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 4:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Michael Koschmider > > My gg grandparents Michael and Anna Koschmider came to the US from Germany > on Dec 4,1883 on the ship Oder they landed at Castel Garden. There daughter > my g grandmother Josephine Helen Koschmider was born Aug 1883 Germany she > is > not listed with them on the ship.Why would she not be listed. > > > Thank you Gail > > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

She could have been born at sea. Diane Jacobs -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of gailharms via Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 4:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Michael Koschmider My gg grandparents Michael and Anna Koschmider came to the US from Germany on Dec 4,1883 on the ship Oder they landed at Castel Garden. There daughter my g grandmother Josephine Helen Koschmider was born Aug 1883 Germany she is not listed with them on the ship.Why would she not be listed. Thank you Gail ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Gail, Did you check every page of the ship's manifest? She may be on another page. BTW my German Josephine arrived with the first name "Joliphe." Suggest checking each page of the manifest. Barb -----Original Message----- From: gailharms via [email protected] My gg grandparents Michael and Anna Koschmider came to the US from Germany on Dec 4,1883 on the ship Oder they landed at Castel Garden. There daughter my g grandmother Josephine Helen Koschmider was born Aug 1883 Germany she is not listed with them on the ship.Why would she not be listed. Thank you Gail

Hi Barb, No she is not on there just her parents she would have been about four months old. Two story's in our family one is she was born in Germany the other she was born on the high seas.They were the only Koschmider's on that ship. Gail -----Original Message----- From: mizscarlettny via Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 7:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Michael Koschmider Hi Gail, Did you check every page of the ship's manifest? She may be on another page. BTW my German Josephine arrived with the first name "Joliphe." Suggest checking each page of the manifest. Barb -----Original Message----- From: gailharms via [email protected] My gg grandparents Michael and Anna Koschmider came to the US from Germany on Dec 4,1883 on the ship Oder they landed at Castel Garden. There daughter my g grandmother Josephine Helen Koschmider was born Aug 1883 Germany she is not listed with them on the ship.Why would she not be listed. Thank you Gail ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the HQ update , Mark. Ancestry's running this show too? Hmmmmmm Barb -----Original Message----- From: Mark Lomax via [email protected] For those who access HeritageQuest census and other records on site and remotely through a public library, the following announcement will be of interest: Coming March 4, 2015 HeritageQuest® Online, powered by Ancestry Overview Coming March 4, 2015, HeritageQuest Online (HQO) will be materially improved and enhanced with a much richer content set and a more powerful, intuitive interface. Complete 1790-1940 U.S. Federal Census with images and every-name indexes for all years Additional census records such as Mortality and Non-Population Schedules, Indian Census Rolls, and more Expanded collection of genealogy and local history books and city directories with an all-new user interface, thumbnail images and hit highlighting Complete Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land record collection (NARA M804) Freedman’s Bank Records with full-page register view Periodical Source Index Archive (PERSI), 1800-2009 U.S. Serial Set Memorials, Petitions and Private Relief Actions All-new research aids Interactive census maps And more The product will have a more modern look and feel that will make it easier to use and help streamline the research process for genealogists. This announcement raises many questions, such as whether public libraries will still provide free remote access to the new HeritageQuest to library patrons. (I live in Southern California and currently receive free access to HeritageQuest from home through the L.A. City Public Library, the L.A. County Public Library, and the Pasadena Public Library, since I hold a library card for each of those libraries.) Mark Lomax Pasadena, CA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My gg grandparents Michael and Anna Koschmider came to the US from Germany on Dec 4,1883 on the ship Oder they landed at Castel Garden. There daughter my g grandmother Josephine Helen Koschmider was born Aug 1883 Germany she is not listed with them on the ship.Why would she not be listed. Thank you Gail

When searching for a marriage, always look first at the county where the Bride resided. Marriage Certificates and Marriage Licenses are two different animals. A License was obtained preceding the actual marriage ceremony. SEE BELOW. A Certificate was filed after and confirms that the actual marriage ceremony took place. Suggestion 1: You MUST view the correct County Marriage Index microfiche in person, before you label it "Unfound." I located 4 of 6 such marriages on these films in the past two weeks. The online GGG/IGG Transcription Index has errors, misspellings and omissions, and is not a thorough search engine; it is a tool to a search. A church sacramental marriage is no guarantee that a civil marriage filing exists. You guys know the Irish resisted reporting to civil authorities. [As did later Jewish immigrants.] You know that many Irish arrived NYC illiterate...so you can't count on surname spellings in even the original docs, let alone transcribed docs. Suggestion 2: NYC Marriage Licenses [pre-marriage filing] 1908-1951 for all counties except Bronx County, which is 1914-1951. These repose at the NYC Municipal Archives and cannot be ordered. They are time consuming to locate as a couple had to appear in person within a given number of days BEFORE the marriage took ceremony place. If you have an actual date of marriage, the license is easier to find. They are filed by the date of application, not alphabetically. Questions? Email me offlist. Barb -----Original Message----- From: Judi via <[email protected] I have a similar problem to Kathy's, regarding an unfound Brooklyn marriage. Patrick McArdle was married twice. His 1st marriage to Ann McGauran/McGaheran was Jan 9, 1890. I have a Brooklyn church record of that marriage, but not a civil record. Annie died Nov 6, 1900, leaving a 5 year old son. Then, sometime between Annie's death in 1900, and July 1905, when my grandmother was born, Patrick McArdle married a 2nd time - to Margaret McGauran/McGaughran/Magaghran, Annie's sister. I'm thinking it's more likely 1901 - 1904, but I'm looking at 1900-1905. I can't find any marriage for them in NY at all. In 1900, Margaret would have been 26. One piece of info that stands out for me is the 1930 census, which asks "age at 1st marriage." Patrick says 29, which is pretty close to right - he was 30 when he married Annie. But Margaret says 17. I know people didn't always know their correct ages, but I'd think a bride would know if she was a teenager or a grown woman of 26 when she was married. I was wondering if she was married before,and I should be looking for Patrick McArdle and Margaret with another name? But I can't find that, either, between 1900-1905. It's worth noting that until I found evidence of Patrick's 1st marriage, and oldest son, no one mentioned they existed. Once I brought it up, there were many stories told. My last family source died before I could ask about Margaret. Any advice? Thanks, Judi

> >> >> Death Notices Appearing in >> Lansingburgh Newspapers >> 1787 - 1895 >> >> An index to 9,682 death notices that were published in ten different Lansingburgh, New York, newspapers from 1787 to 1895 was created by staff at the Troy Public Library in 1938 through 1939. The Troy Irish Genealogy Society was allowed by the Troy Library to scan the two books of these important records so they could be made available on-line for genealogy researchers. To see these records go to the TIGS website - www.troyirish.com - click on PROJECTS and then click on DEATH NOTICES APPEARING IN LANSINGBURGH NEWSPAPERS. >> Lansingburgh, by the way, for those not in the Capital District Region, was the first chartered village in Rensselaer County and was settled around 1763. In 1900 Lansingburgh became part of the City of Troy, New York. >> >> The ten different Lansingburgh newspapers were: >> >> American Spy >> Federal Herald >> Lansingburgh Advertiser >> Lansingburgh Chronicle >> Lansingburgh Courier >> Lansingburgh Democrat >> Lansingburgh Gazette >> Lansingburgh Daily Gazette >> Lansingburgh Times >> Northern Centinel >> >> Under “RESOURCES” on the TIGS website, www.troyirish.com you will also find an informative article, “Newspapering in Rensselaer County”, which identifies which of the above newspapers are available, on microfilm or hard copy, at the Troy Library. >> These historical records are extremely important to genealogy researchers as the bulk of the records predate New York’s 1880 law that required reporting of deaths. Outside of church death and burial records and newspaper accounts, you will not find these records anywhere else. >> >> In addition to the name of the deceased, other entries show the age, date of death, names of newspapers that reported the death along with the newspaper date, page and column number where you will find the death notice in the appropriate newspaper. >> >> It is important to note that the residence for the deceased is not just Lansingburgh, but may cover all areas of New York State, other States and even foreign countries. >> >> Hopefully you will find some of your ancestors in this new data base or in the various other data series of almost 300,000 Irish AND Non-Irish names on the Troy Irish Genealogy website. >> >> >> >> Bill McGrath >> TIGS Project Coordinator >> Clifton Park, NY >> >> >> >> >>

Pardon my interruption... Will the woman from Campbell Hall, NY please contact me offlist. Thank you, Barb

Hi PJ, I transcribed this NY County Death Certificate from the microfiche at the New York Municipal Archives on Wednesday, 18 February 2015. Johnson Mary 28 y Jan 3 1923 1096 (1923) Manhattan 1894 - 1895 2030434 How may I help you? Feel free to email me offlist. Barb ========================== From: pjsalis [email protected] MIZ S.-- Where did you get that info? PJ ================================= NEW YORK COUNTY DEATH CERTIFICATE > Mary JOHNSON > Black, single, female > > Occupation: cook > Place of Birth: U.S. > Father: Joseph Johnson, born in U.S. > Mother: Susan [blank], born in U.S. > > Home: 2288 Main Street, Stratford, Conn. > > Death: 3 January 1923; hospitalized since 6 December 1922 > Place of Death: Bellevue Hospital, NY, NY > Age at Death: 28 years > Cause: chronic pulmonary tuberculosis > Buried: City Cemetery [NYC]

Please remember this is a huge cemetery, as in humungous. Over 5 million people are interred there. That's more than most cities. There are 4 distinct sections. When you call about a burial ask which section it is in 1 [Old Calvary], 2, 3, or 4. Those of us in the metro area usually know which numbers apply to each of the four sections. Major city thoroughfares intersect this cemetery, so you cannot just walk from one section to the other. You have to drive your car. We won't segue into what to do if you get a flat tire backing into a cobblestone edge that lines its paths, after the office closed on a Saturday, and even NYPD can't locate you on a map, and neither could AAA... and one of you still swears you saw a female ghost... Barb BTW Don't forget headstone photos & transcriptions in Rosemary Muscarella Ardolina's two books> Old Calvary Cemetery - New Yorkers Carved in Stone Second Calvary Cemetery - New Yorkers Carved in Stone

I just filed complaints with the Better Business Bureau, and with Congressmen Lowey & Schumer involving my genealogy related magazine subscriptions, from Magazines.com. I've purchased many gifts there and for my use. They automatically renew and bill my charge cards without my pre-approval. This has gone on for years. If you are on fixed incomes, magazines and other online services may be billing you for renewals without your prior approval, that you can't afford. Heads up you Genie-Bugs and get those charges reversed, today! Barb

Dear Friends, You can phone Calvary Cemetery with a date of death or burial, to get directions to its burial plot. 718-786-8000 Today's price of an Interment List from Calvary is $90. for the first name requested, plus $5. for each additional name. An Interment List will provide documentation of: burial dates & names; grave location; date, name, & address of purchaser; deceased's place of birth. Notes: 1) If after purchasing, your copy excludes any of the above facts, phone them for a corrected copy. 2) It rarely includes an Irish home-townland. 3) Many of my list copies had the wrong place of birth. These lists always have a few surprise interments and no other document includes what they do. Barb