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I'm posting this message for Dorothy Barb ................................ From: Dorothy Mosior <[email protected]> With the help of Ancestry.com’s newly added US Social Security Application and Claims Index (1935-2007), I have finally been able to validate my grandmother’s birth date and SSN. Does anyone know how to obtain a date of death from a deceased person’s SSN? I have tried the SSDI but she is not listed there. My grandmother, Lena Elenore Rose (nee Boock) was born on 22 June 1888 in Kings County, New York and her SSN was 128-16-1095. I was thrilled to have finally validated her birthdate and obtain her SSN (which I thought would take me further) but now, once again my search seems to be at a halt. At this point, I have no reason to believe that she ever moved out of the greater NY area. Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, in advance, for your response to this request. Dorothy Mosior Callawassie Island, SC 29909 [email protected]

History of Hunterdon County tells me a lot of people had 2nd homes in this county were of Philadelphia and surrounding area as well as from New York City for many years. Some commute by old fashioned method - railroad. 772 testators added for Hunterdon County, New Jersey Currently surnames A-B Years covered - 1804-1917 It is not only county. There are several states with several counties already online for testators of wills. Plus other types of probate records, too. no opt-in and no opt-out, free browsing http://www.sampubco.com W. David Samuelsen SAMPUBCO

Hi Lynne, Knowing the year, address & nationality will guide you to the church. You could take the street address from the 1900 Census. On a map, the intersection of 39th St & 11th Avenue shows that the Lincoln Tunnel interferes with 39th St. Avenues run north south in Manhattan. 5th Avenue divides the east and west sides of Manhattan. From 5th Ave, you'll see that 11th avenue is 6 blocks west. So, I ran this through Google> 600 W 40th St, NY NY to get the ZIP code= 10018 Manhattan Churches in ZIP CODE order> http://bklyn-genealogy-info.stevemorse.org/Worship/Manh.Catholic.zip.html Find a church that matches your ancestor's nationality and ZIP. Voila! Barb From: Lynne Sisk via <[email protected]> Does anyone know what the closest Catholic Church would be for the W. 39th St. and 11th Ave. area in the years 1880 to 1910 and who I would contact for their records? Thanks.

This article has a link that may help you find a path to get to the folks who will have the info you seek https://genealogygal.wordpress.com/2014/12/14/archdiocese-of-new-york-no-brooklyn-no-queens/ Billie Elias On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Lynne Sisk via <[email protected]> wrote: > Does anyone know what the closest Catholic Church would be for the W. 39th > St. and 11th Ave. area in the years 1880 to 1910 and who I would contact > for their records? Thanks. > > > > > On Aug 27, 2015, at 3:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. NYC RC Marriage Cert question ([email protected]) > > <mime-attachment> > > To contact the NYNEWYOR list administrator, send an email to > > [email protected] > > > > To post a message to the NYNEWYOR mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone know what the closest Catholic Church would be for the W. 39th St. and 11th Ave. area in the years 1880 to 1910 and who I would contact for their records? Thanks. > On Aug 27, 2015, at 3:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. NYC RC Marriage Cert question ([email protected]) > <mime-attachment> > To contact the NYNEWYOR list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the NYNEWYOR mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text.

Dear Friends, Yesterday I purchased a civil Manhattan Marriage Certificate for an Irish immigrant couple dated 14 April 1895. The form is printed in black ink as are the fill-in-the-blank facts handwritten. The marriage was performed by Rev James E. GOGGIN, pastor of St. Bernard Catholic Church [est 1868 as an Irish parish] at 328 W 14th St, New York, NY 10014---the "meatpacking district." On the form's list of details, the last item asks "Date of Entry" and stamped in blue ink it says "NOV 8 1895." This is the date that NYC processed the form; that's almost 7 months after the marriage was performed. Odd. Then stamped in the upper left is the date that NYC received it in the mail dated NOV 2, 1895. Then, under "State of New York" and above the area that begins "I hereby certify that..." where groom's then bride's names get hand scribed in is another stamped item in dark red ink. It says, in caps, "GRANTED NOVEMBER 6, 1895." Granted? I've never seen anything like this in 35+ years at this. At first I thought the red stamp indicated that the church granted an annulment to one of the marrying parties, but this was received by NYC on NOV 2. Does anyone have an explanation of the red stamp on this MC? Thanks ahead, Barb

Requesting Public Records? Depending on the State, That Could Cost Money Dick Eastman · August 19, 2015 · This will be an issue for genealogists. Tennessee may become the latest state to start charging a fee for the time it takes to fulfill a public records request, a practice that’s emerging in some states and one that opponents say simply aims to discourage requests. This fall, the Tennessee Office of Open Record Counsel will conduct several public hearings on charging a fee for the search and retrieval of public records. While the state can already charge for copies of public records, inspection is generally free. But earlier this year, the state’s School Board Association pushed legislation proposing an hourly labor charge for public records request (with no charge for the first hour of labor). The legislation, which was tabled until next year, also stipulated that the first 25 copies would be free. The Tennessee Coalition for Open Government and the state press association vehemently opposed the legislation. Tennessee is not the only state trying to extract more money from citizens’ pockets. It may be the latest state to do so but certainly is not alone. Details may be found in an article by Liz farmer at: http://www.governing.com/topics/politics/gov-public-records-tennessee-charges.html.

St. Augustine Church, established in 1853, was a favorite of Irish immigrants. 1855, March 5th--John Joseph one week old son of John and Mary Fitz Patrick; Sponsors: John Reily & Mary Mullen by P. Phelan 1855, March 5th--Thomas, 2 weeks old son of John & Mary Currans Sponsors: Peter Keohe & Margaret Mulvey by P. Phelan 1855, April ?--Sarah, 2 weeks old dau of Patrick McGaharan & Rebecca [McGonigle] Sponsors: John Barron & Mary McParlan by P. Phelan 1855, April ? --John, 1 week old son of Thomas Connolly & Margaret ???? Sponsors: Patrick Hernan & Kelly/Reilly by P. Phelan 1855, April ? --Jane, 3 days old dau of Thomas & Catherine Hall Sponsors: Owen Martin & Margaret Geary by P. Phelan 1855, April ? --Isabel Jane, 3 weeks old dau of John Johnston & Margaret Sponsors: Richard Carroll & Bridget Laughlin by P. Phelan 1855, May 1st--Mary Jane, 3 days old dau of Peter & Mary Biro Sponsors: Patrick Biro & Catherine Halpin by P. Phelan 1855, May 11th--Charles, 3 weeks old dau of James & Bridget Hewson Sponsors: Thomas Kiernan & Ellen Larkin by P. Phelan ~transcribed from parish sacramental registers by Barb

LOL - Many years ago my mother tried to get a copy of her birth certificate.  She was a beginning genealogist and the state gave her a hard time.  They wanted to know why she needed it, so she told them she didn't have one, it was her birth certificate and she wanted it. They finally sent it to her but made her jump through all sorts of hoops to get it.Dee in Phoenix www.azwvgs.org - West Valley Genealogical SocietyWhen a person dies, a library closes. Researching: NJ: Snook, Bozarth, Dickerson, Dalton, Hicks, Asay NY: Semlear, Stoothoff, Foster, Murray, Dierks, Cairns PA: Hicks, Shaw, Roberts, Swartz/Black, Penrose Nova Scotia: Arthur, Hutt, Eisenhauer, Conrod, Morris   From: Robert Pieterse <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [NYQUEENS] Genealogist responds> ARIZONA State Library Devalues Genealogy Every  state  is  different.   NY  unfortunately  is  not  one  of  the  better  states  regarding   release  of  records.  .You  can  know  a  person  died  and  have  his  birthdate  from  the  SSDI  but  you  can  not  get the   certificate.   Makes  no  sense  to  me.   Birth Certificates are available for a fee from 1880 through 1940. They must be 75 years old to be accessible. Marriage and Death Certificates, 50 years so available this year up to 1965. The keeping of vital records in New York States didn’t start until 1880. There was an effort in 1847 through 1849 and these can be found in many of the NY Counties.         -----Original Message----- From: mizscarlettny via <[email protected]> To: NYNEWYOR <[email protected]>; nybrooklyn <[email protected]>; NYNASSAU <[email protected]>; nywestch <[email protected]>; NYQUEENS <[email protected]>; deesgenes1 <[email protected]>; NY-IRISH <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Aug 17, 2015 9:17 am Subject: [NYQUEENS] Genealogist responds> ARIZONA State Library Devalues Genealogy From: Deanna Smith <[email protected]> Hello Listers, I’m a New York State Professional Researcher so I can’t grasp that New York controls who gets the records. What records is this a reference to? We do have a limitation on Vital Records at the State Level. Birth Certificates are available for a fee from 1880 through 1940. They must be 75 years old to be accessible. Marriage and Death Certificates, 50 years so available this year up to 1965. The keeping of vital records in New York States didn’t start until 1880. There was an effort in 1847 through 1849 and these can be found in many of the NY Counties. As for Library and Archives resources, the records abound in NY State. I feel that it is a “feasting” or records to search. The Dept. of History and Archives in Montgomery Co., New York, for example, has probably the third largest genealogical collection in New York State with over 200 church records; most indexed. At this time, I know of now NY State Library or Archives closing. I am aware of staff cuts everywhere. The one difficulty that the writer could be referring to are Surrogates records. Because I live in NY State I travel to the various Surrogates offices and have no problems procuring records. NY State did pass a law about 5 years ago to charge researchers $90 for the copy of a Will. Astronomical to say the least. They may relate to persons ordering Wills by mail. I’ll check that. How else can I help? Deanna Smith ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

FYI It appears that the factory was in Manhattan and the warehouse was in Yonkers, NY. http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9D06EFDF1730E132A25756C2A9679C94689ED7CF This is an industry that would attract single, female employees, similar to the sewing/tailoring/seamstress/dressmaker trades. Barb

From: Deanna Smith <[email protected]> Hello Listers, I’m a New York State Professional Researcher so I can’t grasp that New York controls who gets the records. What records is this a reference to? We do have a limitation on Vital Records at the State Level. Birth Certificates are available for a fee from 1880 through 1940. They must be 75 years old to be accessible. Marriage and Death Certificates, 50 years so available this year up to 1965. The keeping of vital records in New York States didn’t start until 1880. There was an effort in 1847 through 1849 and these can be found in many of the NY Counties. As for Library and Archives resources, the records abound in NY State. I feel that it is a “feasting” or records to search. The Dept. of History and Archives in Montgomery Co., New York, for example, has probably the third largest genealogical collection in New York State with over 200 church records; most indexed. At this time, I know of now NY State Library or Archives closing. I am aware of staff cuts everywhere. The one difficulty that the writer could be referring to are Surrogates records. Because I live in NY State I travel to the various Surrogates offices and have no problems procuring records. NY State did pass a law about 5 years ago to charge researchers $90 for the copy of a Will. Astronomical to say the least. They may relate to persons ordering Wills by mail. I’ll check that. How else can I help? Deanna Smith

Not entirely true birth certificates must be 75 years old to be accessible, though almost. You can request a birth certificate for yourself, and you can get a birth certificate for a parent who has died, or for anyone with their written permission. In addition to the state, local towns and cities hold bmd records, and there's something to be said for just going to them. When I lived in Buffalo, NY, I wanted to do horoscopes for a friend's young daughters; that needs their exact time as well as date and place of birth. I had a written letter from her giving me permission to get them. I walked up to the window, made out the form, asked for the records, and I don't have the same surname as the girls in question, and he never asked, just handed me the birth certificates. That was the sort of experience I had in the town where I grew up in upstate New York, as well; I could find out just about anything from the town clerk - over the phone. It might be more bureacratic in New York, though, but it's always worth a try. And if possible go in there instead of writing. I've also had docuchek get me death certificates I shouldn't have had access to. And I had one clerk call me up with a question! Dora -----Original Message----- From: mizscarlettny via Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 8:15 AM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Genealogist responds> ARIZONA State Library DevaluesGenealogy From: Deanna Smith <[email protected]> Hello Listers, I’m a New York State Professional Researcher so I can’t grasp that New York controls who gets the records. What records is this a reference to? We do have a limitation on Vital Records at the State Level. Birth Certificates are available for a fee from 1880 through 1940. They must be 75 years old to be accessible. Marriage and Death Certificates, 50 years so available this year up to 1965. The keeping of vital records in New York States didn’t start until 1880. There was an effort in 1847 through 1849 and these can be found in many of the NY Counties. As for Library and Archives resources, the records abound in NY State. I feel that it is a “feasting” or records to search. The Dept. of History and Archives in Montgomery Co., New York, for example, has probably the third largest genealogical collection in New York State with over 200 church records; most indexed. At this time, I know of now NY State Library or Archives closing. I am aware of staff cuts everywhere. The one difficulty that the writer could be referring to are Surrogates records. Because I live in NY State I travel to the various Surrogates offices and have no problems procuring records. NY State did pass a law about 5 years ago to charge researchers $90 for the copy of a Will. Astronomical to say the least. They may relate to persons ordering Wills by mail. I’ll check that. How else can I help? Deanna Smith ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi "[email protected]," I sent the same article about Joan Clarke to our Dee in Phoenix. Dee responded to that article>>>> "Very political. Makes it sound as if there's going to be so much there. Right now the archives has all their AZ stuff. Pictures that were published showed 2 bookcases (small) for the genealogy things. They're pushing Heritage Quest, Ancestry, family search, etc as the greatest thing since sliced bread when we all know only a small percentage of things have been digitized. This is just bread crumbs.": Dee www.azwvgs.org - West Valley Genealogical Society When a person dies, a library closes. BOTTOM LINE> "If it walks like duck, quacks like a dunk... THE PEOPLE [aka votes] of ARIZONA WERE ROBBED! Let the polls show it. Barb -----Original Message----- From: Dtkone = [email protected], If you go to _www.azsos.gov_ (http://www.azsos.gov) you can read "A word from State Librarian Joan Clark" posted on Aug. 10. You can also go to the "Digitized Arizona Library" for online research. It looks good to me.

Dee from Arizona, family genealogist, and, most importantly a wise, registered Arizona voter, intended to send this to all> >From Dee Snook, [email protected], >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "thought my note was going out to the list. Suzanne is also on the NYC list and often participates. I know she's busy this weekend, but she'll probably tag on later. "We've written to all our state people. The governor's answer? I have nothing to do with it, it's Michelle Reagan's department. He won't be getting my vote either. "One plus. The state was going to remove the wild horses from down Maricopa way. Library front page one Sunday, horses the next. Huge outcry for the horses and they're staying, so we won one. Dee www.azwvgs.org - West Valley Genealogical Society When a person dies, a library closes. -----Original Message----- From: mizscarlettny <[email protected]> Dear Friends, Out of state researchers complain about how tightly New York controls who gets what records. My response is: At least we have records, and repositories that value them. But, I'll add to that...so far. What in the heck is going on in the "Wild West?" We're not talking about private libraries, Folks. First, Loreen Wells reported that The Oregon State Library research room was closing in October 2014 due to budget cuts demanded by the Oregon Legislature whose mind was made up. Public outcries went to deaf ears, or perhaps more accurately stated, landed on absent ears. Now, the Arizona State Library is following suit? Dee, would you please respond to all from AZ? Is this a sign of the times or a priority of the "text-me generation." Please share your views. Story from Dick Eastman folows. Barb -------------------- "Chairman of Arizona Library Advisory Board Resigns following Genealogy Library's Changes." Dick Eastman · August 9, 2015 · Legal Affairs · 9 Comments Without warning and without enough time for the public to file comments, Arizona Secretary of State Michele Reagan recently moved the state library’s genealogy collection to a much smaller facility with only two bookshelves, holding a fraction of the books previously available to all. The move brought howls of protests from the genealogy community. (See my earlier articles at http://goo.gl/HChkUO and at http://goo.gl/mdTkwf for details.) The Secretary of State also laid off four employees of the state library at the same time. Genealogists are not the only ones protesting the abrupt and unannounced changes. Catherine May, Chairman of the State Library’s Advisory Board, has resigned in protest. “I just don’t want my name tied to Secretary Reagan,” May said. “I don’t trust what they’ve done.” Details may be found in an article by Mary Jo Pitzl in The Republic ‘s web site at http://goo.gl/VBkw9q .

It is now <http://www.archives.nysed.gov/research/res_ancestry.shtml> Drew Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY O|||||||O Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, GREENE, LALIME & LENT, LYNT, van LENT Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html From: mizscarlettny via <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 1:32 AM Subject: [NYNEWYOR] NYS RESIDENTS Dear Friends, This is a great find, please pass it on. It could be especially handy for teachers and students, as well as family researchers. If you are a resident of New York State, you re entitled to free access to Ancestry.com *for New York State records only.* HOW TO l) Go to this page> http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/research/res_ancestry.shtml 2) Enter your 5 digit Zip code and click the "Submit" button. 3) For free access to New York records, start your search then click on your results. You will be prompted to "Create a Free Account." DO NOT click on the "Subscribe" button or the "14-day Free Trial Offer" unless you are interested in access to all of Ancestry. If you live in another state, please check your state archives; that's how I found this. You'll have access to al of these records. >>>>>>> Albany, New York State Census, 1915 Dutchess County, New York, Naturalization Records, 1932-1989 Free Index Menands, New York, Albany Rural Cemetery Burial Cards, 1791-2011 New York Marriages, 1600-1784 New York Military Equipment Claims, War of 1812 New York, 74th Infantry National Guard Enlistment Cards, 1889-1917 New York, Abstracts of World War I Military Service, 1917-1919 New York, Alien Depositions of Intent to Become U.S. Citizens, 1825-1871 New York, Cartes-de-visite, 1860-1865 New York, Census of Inmates in Almshouses and Poorhouses, 1830-1920 New York, Civil War Muster Roll Abstracts, 1861-1900 New York, Discharges of Convicts, 1882-1915 New York, Estate Inventories and Accounts, 1666-1822 New York, Executive Orders for Commutations, Pardons, Restorations and Respites, 1845-1931 New York, Governor's Registers of Commitments to Prisons, 1842-1908 New York, Grand Army of the Republic Records, 1866-1931 New York, Mexican Punitive Campaign Muster Rolls for National Guard, 1916-1917 New York, Military Service Cards, 1816-1979 New York, National Guard Monthly Roster, 1940-1945 New York, Naturalization Papers, 1799-1847 New York, New Jersey Soldiers Serving in the New York National Guard, 1918 New York, Pension Claims by Disabled Revolutionary War Veterans, 1779-1789 New York, Prisoners Received at Newgate State Prison, 1797-1810 New York, Record of Award Medal, 1920-1991 New York, Registers of Officers and Enlisted Men Mustered into Federal Service, 1861-1865 New York, Sales of Loyalist Land, 1762-1830 New York, Spanish-American War Military and Naval Service Records, 1898-1902 New York, State Census, 1855 New York, State Census, 1892 New York, State Census, 1905 New York, State Census, 1915 New York, State Census, 1925 New York, State Veterans' Questionnaires, 1861-1991 New York, Tax Assessment Rolls of Real and Personal Estates, 1799-1804 New York, Town Clerks' Registers of Men Who Served in the Civil War, ca 1861-1865 New York, U.S. National Guard Enlistment Cards, 1923-1947 New York, Veteran Burial Cards, 1861-1898 New York, War of 1812 Payroll Abstracts for New York State Militia, 1812-1815 New York, World War I Veterans' Service Data, 1913-1919 New York, WWII Enlisted Men Cards, 1940-1945 Salina, New York, Records, 1805-1969 U.S. Census Mortality Schedules, New York, 1850-1880 U.S. Census Non-Population Schedules, New York, 1850-1880 U.S. Federal Census - 1880 Schedules of Defective, Dependent, and Delinquent Classes ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Renee.  More photos on the Family History Society of Arizona facebook page. This is what the library looked like.  Today it's a shambles..  Books, papers all over.  A travesty.Dee in Phoenix  www.azwvgs.org - West Valley Genealogical SocietyWhen a person dies, a library closes. Researching: NJ: Snook, Bozarth, Dickerson, Dalton, Hicks, Asay NY: Semlear, Stoothoff, Foster, Murray, Dierks, Cairns PA: Hicks, Shaw, Roberts, Swartz/Black, Penrose Nova Scotia: Arthur, Hutt, Eisenhauer, Conrod, Morris   From: Renee L. Dauven via <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] ARIZONA State Library Devalues Genealogy---Responses? Hi folks,     No wonder folks are upset! compare this: http://azmemory.azlibrary.gov/cdm/singleitem/collection/histphotos/id/9646/rec/16 http://azmemory.azlibrary.gov/cdm/singleitem/collection/histphotos/id/9648/rec/18 http://azmemory.azlibrary.gov/cdm/singleitem/collection/histphotos/id/9652/rec/19 with this: http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/politicalinsider/2015/08/08/chairman-quits-after-az-genealogy-library-changes/31361151/ (Scroll down the article to the picture of the new genealogy area) Digital my foot! Oregon had just one room and it was staffed  by volunteers, not paid staff.  Most of the collection, if I remember correctly, belonged to the Genealogy Society... Renee L. Dauven On 8/15/2015 4:51 PM, mizscarlettny via wrote: > > > > > Dear Friends, > > Out of state researchers complain about how tightly New York controls who gets what records. My response is: > At least we have records, and repositories that value them. But, I'll add to that...so far. > > What in the heck is going on in the "Wild West?"  We're not talking about private libraries, Folks. > > First, Loreen Wells reported that The Oregon State Library research room was closing in > October 2014 due to budget cuts demanded by the Oregon Legislature whose mind was made up. > Public outcries went to deaf ears, or perhaps more accurately stated, landed on absent ears. > > Now, the Arizona State Library is following suit? Dee, would you please respond to all from AZ? > > Is this a sign of the times or a priority of the "text-me generation." > > Please share your views. Story from Dick Eastman folows. > > Barb > -------------------- > > > > "Chairman of Arizona Library Advisory Board Resigns following Genealogy Library's Changes." > > >                         Dick Eastman                        ·        August 9, 2015                            ·            Legal Affairs                                                    ·                                    9  Comments > > >                                 >                                                     > Without warning and without enough time for the public to file comments, Arizona Secretary of State Michele Reagan recently moved the state library’s genealogy collection to a much smaller facility with only two bookshelves, holding a fraction of the books previously available to all. The move brought howls of protests from the genealogy community. (See my earlier articles at http://goo.gl/HChkUO and at http://goo.gl/mdTkwf for details.) > > > > The Secretary of State also laid off four employees of the state library at the same time. > Genealogists are not the only ones protesting the abrupt and unannounced changes. Catherine May, Chairman of the State Library’s Advisory Board, has resigned in protest. “I just don’t want my name tied to Secretary Reagan,” May said. “I don’t trust what they’ve done.” > Details may be found in an article by Mary Jo Pitzl in The Republic‘s web site at http://goo.gl/VBkw9q. > > > > > > > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6125 / Virus Database: 4392/10442 - Release Date: 08/15/15 ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Oregon State Library RESEARCH ROOM was closing in October 2014 due to budget cuts demanded by the Oregon Legislature -----Original Message----- From: Robert Pieterse <[email protected]> To: mizscarlettny <[email protected]>; nyqueens <[email protected]>; NYNEWYOR <[email protected]>; nybrooklyn <[email protected]>; NYNASSAU <[email protected]>; nywestch <[email protected]>; deesgenes1 <[email protected]>; NY-IRISH <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Aug 15, 2015 8:34 pm Subject: Re: [NYQUEENS] ARIZONA State Library Devalues Genealogy---Responses? The Oregon State library is not closed Oregon State Library 250 Winter St. NE Salem, Oregon 97301-3950 Phone: 503-378-4243 Fax: 503-585-8059 Building Hours: 8 - 5 (Monday - Friday) Public Access to Collections: 1 - 4 (Monday - Friday) Talking Books: 9 - 12 and 1 - 4 (Monday - Friday) AZ is down sizing Not closed either. so what is the bug deal. . That hardly means the same books are no longer available -----Original Message----- From: mizscarlettny via <[email protected]> To: NYNEWYOR <[email protected]>; nybrooklyn <[email protected]>; NYNASSAU <[email protected]>; nywestch <[email protected]>; NYQUEENS <[email protected]>; deesgenes1 <[email protected]>; NY-IRISH <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Aug 15, 2015 7:54 pm Subject: [NYQUEENS] ARIZONA State Library Devalues Genealogy---Responses? Dear Friends, Out of state researchers complain about how tightly New York controls who gets what records. My response is: At least we have records, and repositories that value them. But, I'll add to that...so far. What in the heck is going on in the "Wild West?" We're not talking about private libraries, Folks. First, Loreen Wells reported that The Oregon State Library research room was closing in October 2014 due to budget cuts demanded by the Oregon Legislature whose mind was made up. Public outcries went to deaf ears, or perhaps more accurately stated, landed on absent ears. Now, the Arizona State Library is following suit? Dee, would you please respond to all from AZ? Is this a sign of the times or a priority of the "text-me generation." Please share your views. Story from Dick Eastman folows. Barb -------------------- "Chairman of Arizona Library Advisory Board Resigns following Genealogy Library's Changes." Dick Eastman · August 9, 2015 · Legal Affairs · 9 Comments Without warning and without enough time for the public to file comments, Arizona Secretary of State Michele Reagan recently moved the state library’s genealogy collection to a much smaller facility with only two bookshelves, holding a fraction of the books previously available to all. The move brought howls of protests from the genealogy community. (See my earlier articles at http://goo.gl/HChkUO and at http://goo.gl/mdTkwf for details.) The Secretary of State also laid off four employees of the state library at the same time. Genealogists are not the only ones protesting the abrupt and unannounced changes. Catherine May, Chairman of the State Library’s Advisory Board, has resigned in protest. “I just don’t want my name tied to Secretary Reagan,” May said. “I don’t trust what they’ve done.” Details may be found in an article by Mary Jo Pitzl in The Republic‘s web site at http://goo.gl/VBkw9q. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Friends, Out of state researchers complain about how tightly New York controls who gets what records. My response is: At least we have records, and repositories that value them. But, I'll add to that...so far. What in the heck is going on in the "Wild West?" We're not talking about private libraries, Folks. First, Loreen Wells reported that The Oregon State Library research room was closing in October 2014 due to budget cuts demanded by the Oregon Legislature whose mind was made up. Public outcries went to deaf ears, or perhaps more accurately stated, landed on absent ears. Now, the Arizona State Library is following suit? Dee, would you please respond to all from AZ? Is this a sign of the times or a priority of the "text-me generation." Please share your views. Story from Dick Eastman folows. Barb -------------------- "Chairman of Arizona Library Advisory Board Resigns following Genealogy Library's Changes." Dick Eastman · August 9, 2015 · Legal Affairs · 9 Comments Without warning and without enough time for the public to file comments, Arizona Secretary of State Michele Reagan recently moved the state library’s genealogy collection to a much smaller facility with only two bookshelves, holding a fraction of the books previously available to all. The move brought howls of protests from the genealogy community. (See my earlier articles at http://goo.gl/HChkUO and at http://goo.gl/mdTkwf for details.) The Secretary of State also laid off four employees of the state library at the same time. Genealogists are not the only ones protesting the abrupt and unannounced changes. Catherine May, Chairman of the State Library’s Advisory Board, has resigned in protest. “I just don’t want my name tied to Secretary Reagan,” May said. “I don’t trust what they’ve done.” Details may be found in an article by Mary Jo Pitzl in The Republic‘s web site at http://goo.gl/VBkw9q.

Hi folks, No wonder folks are upset! compare this: http://azmemory.azlibrary.gov/cdm/singleitem/collection/histphotos/id/9646/rec/16 http://azmemory.azlibrary.gov/cdm/singleitem/collection/histphotos/id/9648/rec/18 http://azmemory.azlibrary.gov/cdm/singleitem/collection/histphotos/id/9652/rec/19 with this: http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/politicalinsider/2015/08/08/chairman-quits-after-az-genealogy-library-changes/31361151/ (Scroll down the article to the picture of the new genealogy area) Digital my foot! Oregon had just one room and it was staffed by volunteers, not paid staff. Most of the collection, if I remember correctly, belonged to the Genealogy Society... Renee L. Dauven On 8/15/2015 4:51 PM, mizscarlettny via wrote: > > > > > Dear Friends, > > Out of state researchers complain about how tightly New York controls who gets what records. My response is: > At least we have records, and repositories that value them. But, I'll add to that...so far. > > What in the heck is going on in the "Wild West?" We're not talking about private libraries, Folks. > > First, Loreen Wells reported that The Oregon State Library research room was closing in > October 2014 due to budget cuts demanded by the Oregon Legislature whose mind was made up. > Public outcries went to deaf ears, or perhaps more accurately stated, landed on absent ears. > > Now, the Arizona State Library is following suit? Dee, would you please respond to all from AZ? > > Is this a sign of the times or a priority of the "text-me generation." > > Please share your views. Story from Dick Eastman folows. > > Barb > -------------------- > > > > "Chairman of Arizona Library Advisory Board Resigns following Genealogy Library's Changes." > > > Dick Eastman · August 9, 2015 · Legal Affairs · 9 Comments > > > > > Without warning and without enough time for the public to file comments, Arizona Secretary of State Michele Reagan recently moved the state library’s genealogy collection to a much smaller facility with only two bookshelves, holding a fraction of the books previously available to all. The move brought howls of protests from the genealogy community. (See my earlier articles at http://goo.gl/HChkUO and at http://goo.gl/mdTkwf for details.) > > > > The Secretary of State also laid off four employees of the state library at the same time. > Genealogists are not the only ones protesting the abrupt and unannounced changes. Catherine May, Chairman of the State Library’s Advisory Board, has resigned in protest. “I just don’t want my name tied to Secretary Reagan,” May said. “I don’t trust what they’ve done.” > Details may be found in an article by Mary Jo Pitzl in The Republic‘s web site at http://goo.gl/VBkw9q. > > > > > > > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6125 / Virus Database: 4392/10442 - Release Date: 08/15/15