The Manhattan branch of LDS' Family History Centers is located at 125 Columbus Ave 1st Floor [9th Ave & 65th; near Lincoln Center] New York NY 10023 Phone: 1-212-799-2414 [email protected] Hours: Opens at 11am Tues-Sat; closes at 9pm Tues-Thurs Permanent, on-site collections> https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&query=%2Bavailability%3A%22New%20York%20City%20New%20York%20Family%20History%20Center%22 -----Original Message----- From: Ellen Ahrens via <[email protected]> If you are in the NYC area, the local FHL center might have copies right there - no ordering - no charge . Ellen

I'm just seeing this now. Thanks for the "shout out." Best, James * * * * James Nevius www.jamesnevius.com *Exploring the intersections of history, memory, genealogy, and travel* Now out: "Footprints in New York: Tracing the Lives of Four Centuries of New Yorkers" (Lyons Press) www.footprintsinnewyork.com -- http://footprintsinnewyork.blogspot.com *"**Footprints in New York has some of the sharpest, most informative meditations on the history of the city that I have encountered in a long time." *—Edwin G. Burrows, co-author of *Gotham *and author of *Forgotten Patriots.* On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:24 AM, mizscarlettny via <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > In its 2005 Archaeological Assessment of Washington Square Park [PDF > download], the New York City Parks and Recreation Department confirms that > corpses “possibly numbered as many as 20,000 and it appears these burials > remain under varying depths of fill.” > > In the popular guidebook Inside the Apple: A Streetwise History of New > York City by Michelle Nevius and James Nevius, the authors detail, “While > estimates vary, it seems likely that over 20,000 people were buried in the > land.... The bulk of the bodies were never disinterred, which means that > they remain to this day under the grass and pavement of Washington Square.” > > > So, how did those bodies get there? In 1797, the quickly expanding New > York City government purchased a portion of an old farm for $4,500 to > create a potter’s field—a burial ground for the indigent, poor, criminals, > and victims of epidemic. The potter’s field operated for almost thirty > years and occupied what is now the eastern two-thirds of Washington Square > Park. It also happened to be adjacent to several established church > cemeteries, adding to the area’s body count. In Around Washington Square > Harris commented that this area was a “natural choice for such bleak > facilities because it was a rural northern suburb of the city and already > the site of cemeteries owned by downtown churches.” > > Hundreds of people who could not afford to be buried privately were laid > to rest in the field. Soon, the city sheriff erected a public gallows, near > the current location of the Square’s fountain. Three-quarters of a mile > away was a prison on the Hudson,[Blackwell's Island Penitentiary] which > Harris describes as “another source of supply for field and noose.” What > ultimately put the burial ground over capacity were the series of epidemics > of yellow fever which struck in the years 1797, 1798, 1801, and 1803. This > caused the city to seek and create a new, larger potter’s field at the > current site of Bryant Park. (The bodies in Bryant Park were however > relocated to Ward’s Island, and may still be there...) > > excerpted from>>>> > > http://www.nypl.org/blog/2011/03/10/grim-origins-washington-square-park > > > > > > > > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barb, I blogged about my great-grandma's American Brilliant Glass, family heirlooms I never thought I'd want. https://genealogygal.wordpress.com/2014/09/07/american-brilliant-cut-glass/ Regards, Billie On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 2:57 PM, mizscarlettny via <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Who can double-jump a flea market when some irresistible "find" > reminds you of a long-loved ancestor? > > This was the case with my just-purchased, > still-useful Foley food mill. > Memories of my German-American grandma were written all over it. > Move over Mott's! > You can't get more delicious applesauce than > quartered, unpeeled New York apples, > simmered with cinnamon sticks, > then run through a Foley food mill. > And, you can't use an easier kitchen appliance > for making applesauce, cuz all the seeds, skins, > and stems collect in the base. > > What object revives sweet memories of your ancestor? > > Barb > [email protected] > @21Oct15 > > > > > > > > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Interesting history of the filming of West Side Story and the present Lincoln Center. http://www.lincolncenter.org/article/moviesfilmedatlincolncenter Regards, Sherri PBS Channel 13 in NY Some great shots of old NY, w/ music by Leonard Bernstein. Barb [email protected]

PBS Channel 13 in NY Some great shots of old NY, w/ music by Leonard Bernstein. Barb [email protected]

Here's a printable list of Westchester County Cemeteries as compiledby Patrick Raftery, Westchester County Historical SocietyLibrarian. http://archives.westchestergov.com/images/stories/contentdm/WestchesterCountyCemeteryIndex.pdf It's prettywonderful! I hope this brings you closer to yourancestors, Barb [email protected]

Here's a printable list of Westchester County Cemeteries as compiled byPatrick Raftery, Westchester County Historical Society Librarian. http://archives.westchestergov.com/images/stories/contentdm/WestchesterCountyCemetery It'spretty wonderful! I hope this brings you closer toyour ancestors, Barb [email protected]

Her's a printable list of Westchester County Cemeteries as compiled by Patrick Raftery, Westchester County Historical Society Librarian. It's pretty wonderful! I hope this brings you closer to yourancestors, Barb [email protected]

If you've been a fan of "Mad Men," the recently ended TV series about the Madison Avenue NYC advertising world in the 1960s, you know that the main character, Dan Draper, lived in Ossining. Here's an interesting NY Times bleep about how the Ossining Historical Society helped the writers create the series. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/25/nyregion/25madmen.html?_r=0 I hope this brings you closer to yourancestors, Barb [email protected]

...that you don't hear much about>>>> http://untappedcities.com/2013/07/12/surprise-what-nyc-former-cemeteries-are-now/ Barb [email protected]

Basilica Tastings: Food, Wine, Beer & Everything in Between Thursday, November 12, 2015, 7:00 PM - 10:00 PM Location: Old St. Patrick's Cathedral Parish House As we say goodbye to warm weather and hello to shorter days and coats lets warms up the tasty Gunhill Brewery and lovely Italian Wine. Join us on Thursday November 12th at 7:00pm for our next installment of Basilica Tastings. Just like the rest of our events, we will not fail you. Come for an evening of excellent locally brewed beer, delicious Italian wine and of course food. All of this only costs you $25. Where else in New York City can you drink beer and wine and eat for $25? The answer is nowhere, only here at Old St. Pat’s So don’t miss out, it’s the last one of 2015. If you miss this one you will have to wait until 2016 and who wants to do that. We will be celebrating friends, the 200th Anniversary at the Parish House. It is the house with the blue door on Mulberry Street. Thursday November 12th @ 7:00pm $25/Person 263 Mulberry St. (Parish House across from the Church) https://www.eventbrite.com/e/basilica-tastings-food-wine-beer-and-everything-in-between-tickets-18960873483

In its 2005 Archaeological Assessment of Washington Square Park [PDF download], the New York City Parks and Recreation Department confirms that corpses “possibly numbered as many as 20,000 and it appears these burials remain under varying depths of fill.” In the popular guidebook Inside the Apple: A Streetwise History of New York City by Michelle Nevius and James Nevius, the authors detail, “While estimates vary, it seems likely that over 20,000 people were buried in the land.... The bulk of the bodies were never disinterred, which means that they remain to this day under the grass and pavement of Washington Square.” So, how did those bodies get there? In 1797, the quickly expanding New York City government purchased a portion of an old farm for $4,500 to create a potter’s field—a burial ground for the indigent, poor, criminals, and victims of epidemic. The potter’s field operated for almost thirty years and occupied what is now the eastern two-thirds of Washington Square Park. It also happened to be adjacent to several established church cemeteries, adding to the area’s body count. In Around Washington Square Harris commented that this area was a “natural choice for such bleak facilities because it was a rural northern suburb of the city and already the site of cemeteries owned by downtown churches.” Hundreds of people who could not afford to be buried privately were laid to rest in the field. Soon, the city sheriff erected a public gallows, near the current location of the Square’s fountain. Three-quarters of a mile away was a prison on the Hudson,[Blackwell's Island Penitentiary] which Harris describes as “another source of supply for field and noose.” What ultimately put the burial ground over capacity were the series of epidemics of yellow fever which struck in the years 1797, 1798, 1801, and 1803. This caused the city to seek and create a new, larger potter’s field at the current site of Bryant Park. (The bodies in Bryant Park were however relocated to Ward’s Island, and may still be there...) excerpted from>>>> http://www.nypl.org/blog/2011/03/10/grim-origins-washington-square-park

For the record> "In January 2013, the Basilica proudly revived the tradition of interring the deceased on Basilica property. We now offer you the unique and limited opportunity to reserve a place of eternal rest in Manhattan’s only Catholic cemetery." http://oldcathedral.org/cemetery Barb

A well-reviewed movie titled "Brooklyn" is opening this week in select theatres. Plot found online: "BROOKLYN" tells the story of Eilis Lacey (Saoirse Ronan), a young Irish immigrant navigating her way through 1950s Brooklyn. Lured by the promise of America, Eilis departs Ireland and the comfort of her mother’s home for the shores of New York City. The initial shackles of homesickness quickly diminish as a fresh romance sweeps Eilis into the intoxicating charm of love. But soon, her new vivacity is disrupted by her past, and Eilis must choose between two countries and the lives that exist within. The film is directed by John Crowley from a screenplay by Nick Hornby based on the novel by Colm Tóibín.

Hudson Yards is the area around the Lincoln Tunnel today. Historically, many young Irish males settled in NYC along the waterfronts* of the Hudson River [aka North River] to the west, and the East River to the east to work as laborers on the docks. On the West, after the US Civil War, one family homes gave way to construction of multi-family tenements that lined the Hudson. Irish nestled along Washington, Ganesvoort, & Greenwich streets, and neighborhoods such as the Meatpacking District, Greenwich Village, Chelsea and Hell's Kitchen. FYI Due to industry and trains along the Hudson, Harlem & East Rivers, Newtown Creek, and port of New York, and the class of inhabitants, the wealthy preferred homes along Manhattan's "spine," Fifth Avenue. A home with a view was not considered as desirable as it is today. Post Civil War, the Upper West Side [UWS] was a conglomeration of mansions; exclusive apartment buildings was yet a dream. Photo: Hudson Yards http://manhattanusersguide.com/large.php?s=20151026 Hudson Riverfront Redevelopment Today https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_Yards_Redevelopment_Project Eleventh Avenue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleventh_Avenue_%28Manhattan%29 * "On the Waterfront" play/film about Irish dock workers "A View From the Bridge" play about Italian family & dock workers I hope this brings you closer to yourancestors, Barb [email protected]

Hi Barb, these are my folks. Mary D Hamill and John H Parry are my grandparents and Annabelle M Teachman and Wm L Hamill are my great grands. The others are siblings of both generations. Did these come from the Brooklyn List Marriages page? If so, I submitted them. Other than Northern Ireland, I have not been able to find the place of origin of my Hamills. The father of William L and Walter D was William Sr. who married Mary Dawson. They also had a brother Thomas who married Sarah McKeen. The Hamills were plumbers and gas fitters and owned hardware stores in Dobbs Ferry and Tarrytown NY. Many are buried in Sleepy Hollow cemetery. I would welcome hearing from any interested parties re Hamill or Teachman families. Best Regards, Deborah Druschel Guida [email protected] > On Oct 25, 2015, at 1:15 PM, mizscarlettny via <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These Protestant HAMMILLs were found through another list. > > > > 6 NOV 1897 > Bride: Leila L. POST > Groom: Walter D[awson] HAMILL > > 14 FEB 1901 > Bride: Annabelle M[arie] TEACHMAN > Groom: William L[incoln] HAMILL > > 14 FEB 1924 > Bride: Katherine Louise HAMILL > Groom: Perry Bruce COXE > > 21 JUNE 1924 > Bride: Mary D[awson] HAMILL > Groom: John H[enry] PARRY > > 5 SEPT 1929 > Bride: Annabelle T[eachman] HAMILL > Groom: Joseph C MITCHELL > > Barb > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

These Protestant HAMMILLs were found through another list. 6 NOV 1897 Bride: Leila L. POST Groom: Walter D[awson] HAMILL 14 FEB 1901 Bride: Annabelle M[arie] TEACHMAN Groom: William L[incoln] HAMILL 14 FEB 1924 Bride: Katerine Louise HAMILL Groom: Perry Bruce COXE 21 JUNE 1924 Bride: Mary D[awson] HAMILL Groom: John H[enry] PARRY 5 SEPT 1929 Bride: Annabelle T[eachman] HAMILL Groom: Joseph C MITCHELL Barb [email protected]

The LAWRENCE family has an historically rich and early background in metro NYC. Cornelius Van Wyck LAWRENCE was the 1st Democratic NYC mayor from 1834 to 1837. BIO of Cornelius: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelius_Lawrence OBITUARY, New York Times, 2 February 1861> "Hon. CORNELIUS VAN WYCK LAWRENCE died this morning at his residence at Bay side, Flushing, L.I., in the 70th year of his age. He was born at Flushing Feb. 28, 1791. He spent his boyhood on his father's farm, and at the age of manhood he came to New-York, when he entered the auction house of SHOTWELL, HICKS & Co. "Afterwards he became partner in the house of HICKS, LAWRENCE & Co., from which he retired in 1832. Mr. LAWRENCE represented New-York in Congress from 1832 to 1834; and was Mayor of New-York from 1834 to 1837, being the first Mayor elected by the people. In 1836 he was President of the Democratic Electoral College. He was Collector of New York under President POLK. For twenty years he held the office of President of the Bank of the State of New-York. He was Director of the Branch Bank of the United States, of the Bank of America, a trustee of the New-York Life and Trust Company, and a director in various insurance companies. In 1856 he retired from active life, to spend the rest of his days on the spot where his ancestors had resided over two hundred, years. During his long life in New-York he was a successful and honored merchant. -- Commercial Advertiser, last Evening. " LAWRENCE Cemetery [appears to be more than one] http://queens.brownstoner.com/2014/06/a-look-at-lawrence-cemetery-astoria/ I hope this brings you closer to yourancestors, Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Dtkone via <[email protected] Debbie, I forgot to mention that there also is a LAWRENCE Cemetery. I hope it is your family because it will be filled with your ancestors. Best of luck!! Dolores K

Thanks you guys. Loving this thread! Applesauce in the Foley last night, split pea soup makings through the Foley tonight! C'mon in folks. Looking forward to hearing about your special keepsakes. Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Judie Cook <[email protected]> Beautiful IRISH COFFEE GLASS MUGS…with Initials ! This from my O’shea mother/grandmother. Judie Cook On Oct 21, 2015, at 2:57 PM, mizscarlettny via <[email protected]> wrote: Who can double-jump a flea market when some irresistible "find" reminds you of a long-loved ancestor? This was the case with my just-purchased, still-useful Foley food mill. Memories of my German-American grandma were written all over it. Move over Mott's! You can't get more delicious applesauce than quartered, unpeeled New York apples, simmered with cinnamon sticks, then run through a Foley food mill. And, you can't use an easier kitchen appliance for making applesauce, cuz all the seeds, skins, and stems collect in the base. What object revives sweet memories of your ancestor? Barb [email protected] @21Oct15 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Virginia, and list, Pat Lewis often provides an accurate description of NYC during her earlier lifetime, and I was curious about her sources, too. [Look at the archives for NY-Irish; Pat was the first person to post years ago.] Do you know that I was NYC-Orphanages list admin? It's personally near and dear to me. I've interviewed many former residents of "homes." There are many 1st person accounts in the archives of the NYC-L and NYC-Orphanges lists. Nuns may have rescued people at various institutions, BUT the Catholic church received per capita, per "inmate" monies from NY State for doing so [Albany NY records], AND people were often abused further by their so-called rescuers. (It's a damn good thing that "the meek shall inherit the earth.") I'm speaking of Catholic and non-denominational orphanages, Orphan Trains, elderly homes, homes for unwed mothers, TB institutions, psych hospitals, facilities for mentally challenged, etc. Too many perverts thrived on abusing society's disenfranchised. I'm not saying all nuns, but nuns were sadistic abusers and even "assisted murders," besides public humiliation and psychological abuse. These transgressions occurred in Ireland [see "Magdalene Laundries" & mass graves of infants near unwed mothers' homes.] and metro New York City. The Catholic Church in metro NYC would have folded decades ago had lawsuits been file against sisters as well as priests. And, Catholic "asylums" [were anything but] chronically overworked nuns. One sister might supervise a dorm floor of two hundred children at night, after teaching all day. No wonder we witnessed knuckle beaters and even pugilistic nuns! The "saintly" sisters were certainly overwhelmed ad nauseam, unlike priests who were revered and lived comfortably. As I said, this is a topic near and dear to my heart. Barb (Irish & Catholic) [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: VLB via <[email protected]> To: Pat Lewis <[email protected]>; ny-irish <[email protected]>; ny-irish <[email protected]> What is the source of this account? I'm curious. I do know that Catholic sisters provided a refuge for many thousands of children from terrible situations, including child abuse and even death. The children in those institutions were the lucky ones compared to those left to fend for themselves on the street--and they were many. For factual information, you might like to read 'Habits of Compassion, Irish Catholic Nuns and the Origins of New York's Welfare System, 1830-1920' by Maureen Fitzgerald. It's based on her PhD dissertation at the University of Wisconsin and is fully documented. Virginia =========================== > From: Pat Lewis <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: IRISH POOR > Date: October 20, 2015 3:20:09 PM EDT > To: [email protected] > > THE IRISH POOR DIDN'T DO MUCH BETTER OVER HERE IN THE USA…THERE WERE PLACES SIMILAR TO THESE "NON-JAILS) WITHIN THE RC CHURCH OWNED AND RUN BY NUNS HERE IN THE USA. ALL YOUR OWN CLOTHING WAS TAKEN AWAY, MAYBE GIVEN TO A RELATIVE BUT NOT NECESSARILY SO, > YOU WERE GIVEN CLOTHING DONATED BY MANUFACTORIRES IN DIFFERENT SIZES, DRESSES, SKIRTS AND BLOUSES…THE DRESSES WORN ON SUNDAY AND HOLIDAYS, YOU DID GET TO WEAR YOUR OWN UNDERWEAR THO….AND YOU WASHED IT EVERY NIGHT HOPING DRY IN THE MORNING, MOST PEOPLE HAD TWO SETS . YOU MADE YOUR OWN BEDS AND KEPT YOUR AREA NEAT AND CLEAN OR THINGS WERE THROWN AWAY. FAMILY COULD LEAVE AN ALLOWANCE, USUALLY NOT MORE THEN $10, FOR ANYTHING YOU NEEDED OR WANTED TO BUY, SHAMPOO, PERSONAL SOAP, NO MAKE UP THO….AND SOME CANDY, BACK WHEN IT WAS 5 CENTS. CHRISTMAS PRESENTS WERE OPENED AND IF NOT APPROVED, SENT BACK OR THROWN AWAYAND NOT ALWAYS A CARD TO SAY WHO FROM. YOU COULD WRITE LETTERS TO FAMILY, BUT ALL WAS READ FIRST BEFORE MAILING..IF NOT APPROVED IT DIDN'T GET MAILED. THIS WAS BACK IN THE 18850-1960 TIIME PERIOD > VISITING DAY WAS ONE PERSON AT A TIME, A CHOICE BETWEEN WHICH PARENT FIRST , IF YOU HAD ANY THAT WOULD VISIT. THIS WAS A PLACE FOR GIRLS ONLY….I DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THE BOYS PLACES BUT THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION OR VISITING WITH THEM. > YOU WORKED IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO LEARN A TRADE AFTER EACH SCHOOL WAS OUT AT 3PM, THEN WORKED TO 5:30, THEN DINNER AT 6. > THEN HOMEWORK DONE AND BEDTIME AT 9! THERE WAS THE CLEANING DE''T , ART DEP'T, HAIR, AND MANICURE , THE KITCHEN AND LAUNDRY…YOU WOULD BE ASSIGNED AS THE MAIN NUN CHOSE. > > TODAY THINGS ARE DIFFERENT, I THINK. OU DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE DONE ANYTHING BAD, STEAL, ROB, FIGHT ETC… FAMILY BREAK UP WAS THE USUAL REASON.