Just to let you know, the two lions have been a Jeopardy final questions a number of Years ago, but all three contestants did not know the answer. Yours truly who has Spent countless hours at the NYPL in the genealogy rooms got it right. Diane Jacobs I just received an email from New York Public Library's home branch at 42d Street and 5th Avenue...yup, the one with the two giant lions guarding the entrance. Do you know the lions' names? Patience and Fortitude. [Good info for you Jeopardy fans!] When you donate $40. to NYPL today, they'll print your loved one's name and a personalized message on a bookplate inside a book circulating in The New York Public Library! https://secure3.convio.net/nypl/site/SPageServer?pagename=FY16_Bookplate&s_s rc=FRS15NO_QBPS3N&utm_source=eNewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=FRS15N O_Bookplate_Subscribers3&utm_campaign=FRS Isn't this a cool way to honor your ancestors? Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. Barb [email protected] ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just received an email from New York Public Library's home branch at 42d Street and 5th Avenue...yup, the one with the two giant lions guarding the entrance. Do you know the lions' names? Patience and Fortitude. [Good info for you Jeopardy fans!] When you donate $40. to NYPL today, they'll print your loved one's name and a personalized message on a bookplate inside a book circulating in The New York Public Library! https://secure3.convio.net/nypl/site/SPageServer?pagename=FY16_Bookplate&s_src=FRS15NO_QBPS3N&utm_source=eNewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=FRS15NO_Bookplate_Subscribers3&utm_campaign=FRS Isn't this a cool way to honor your ancestors? Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. Barb [email protected]

Thank you so much for your help. I will check out Calvary. If I don't have any luck, I will repost. NY has much different ways than say St. Louis MO. Pat -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mizscarlettny via Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:54 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Burial location// Burial permit// Death certificate Hi Pat, The death certificate form used by NYC hospitals differs from the standard civil form. The name of the burial cemetery* appears in one of two places: near the bottom left corner or on page 2 near the bottom (or the reverse side of the form). In both instances it is usually next to the funeral home name or address. FYI You must confirm a burial with the cemetery. Sometimes the death certificate is wrong because a surviving family member provided a cemetery name on the spot, yet had to make arrangments. Since your ancestor died in 1910 at St. Vincent's [Catholic] Hospital in NY County she is most likely buried at Calvary. Calvary Cemetery 49-02 Laurel Hill Boulevard Woodside, NY 11377 (718) 786-8000 PLEASE NOTE: In NYC records we do not have access to "burial permits" which the city provided directly to each cemetery via the undertaker. Also, with historical NYC deaths, we don't pay as much attention to undertaker information as one might do in small town America where the same funeral home was in business for decades. Pat, please repost if Calvary Cemetery does not have your ancestor's burial and we'll help you again. Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Hammons via [email protected] I have my ancestors death certificate which was in 1910. It does not list where the body was remove to or the funeral home. I would like to find out where she is buried. She died at St. Vincent Hospital Manhattan NY, NY. She was Catholic, don't know if she remained a Catholic since, she had divorced prior to 1910. I don't know where to search for burial permit or even if it would have information I want. Thanks Pat ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Michael, Yes, you can order the original Social Security Application directly from them. You need to submit the person's name and SS #. Be sure to request the long form [approx. $26.] as it includes more information> name, address, age, name and address of first employer, job title, original signature. Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Michael Hamill via <[email protected]> To: nynewyor <[email protected]>; NY-IRISH <[email protected]>; nybrooklyn <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Dec 23, 2015 1:07 pm Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Social Security Applications Hello lists, Can anyone answer a question about original Social Security applications, c. late 1930s and 1940s? I have a family member who is listed on Ancestry in "SS Applications and Claims Index" but this is only an index. Does anyone know if the original documents exist and if they are accessible? Also, to pick your brains a bit: this person seems to be listed twice with two different SS numbers. Same parents, different birth years, though only one year apart. While it could be two different people, was there ever a reason to receive a second, different SS number? Thanks for any help you can offer - Michael

Hello lists, Can anyone answer a question about original Social Security applications, c. late 1930s and 1940s? I have a family member who is listed on Ancestry in "SS Applications and Claims Index" but this is only an index. Does anyone know if the original documents exist and if they are accessible? Also, to pick your brains a bit: this person seems to be listed twice with two different SS numbers. Same parents, different birth years, though only one year apart. While it could be two different people, was there ever a reason to receive a second, different SS number? Thanks for any help you can offer - Michael --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi Pat, The death certificate form used by NYC hospitals differs from the standard civil form. The name of the burial cemetery* appears in one of two places: near the bottom left corner or on page 2 near the bottom (or the reverse side of the form). In both instances it is usually next to the funeral home name or address. FYI You must confirm a burial with the cemetery. Sometimes the death certificate is wrong because a surviving family member provided a cemetery name on the spot, yet had to make arrangments. Since your ancestor died in 1910 at St. Vincent's [Catholic] Hospital in NY County she is most likely buried at Calvary. Calvary Cemetery 49-02 Laurel Hill Boulevard Woodside, NY 11377 (718) 786-8000 PLEASE NOTE: In NYC records we do not have access to "burial permits" which the city provided directly to each cemetery via the undertaker. Also, with historical NYC deaths, we don't pay as much attention to undertaker information as one might do in small town America where the same funeral home was in business for decades. Pat, please repost if Calvary Cemetery does not have your ancestor's burial and we'll help you again. Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Hammons via [email protected] I have my ancestors death certificate which was in 1910. It does not list where the body was remove to or the funeral home. I would like to find out where she is buried. She died at St. Vincent Hospital Manhattan NY, NY. She was Catholic, don't know if she remained a Catholic since, she had divorced prior to 1910. I don't know where to search for burial permit or even if it would have information I want. Thanks Pat

Pat, Do you have the front and back of this death certificate? Sometimes the cemetery could be listed on the back of the certificate. Diane Jacobs -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patricia Hammons via Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 6:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Burial Location question I have my ancestors death certificate which was in 1910. It does not list where the body was remove to or the funeral home. I would like to find out where she is buried. She died at St. Vincent Hospital Manhattan NY, NY. She was Catholic, don't know if she remained a Catholic since, she had divorced prior to 1910. I don't know where to search for burial permit or even if it would have information I want. Thanks Pat ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have my ancestors death certificate which was in 1910. It does not list where the body was remove to or the funeral home. I would like to find out where she is buried. She died at St. Vincent Hospital Manhattan NY, NY. She was Catholic, don't know if she remained a Catholic since, she had divorced prior to 1910. I don't know where to search for burial permit or even if it would have information I want. Thanks Pat

Back in the local news, Elijah & Ann MILLER originally owned this White Plains home that once served as General Washington's headquarters. http://www.hudsonvalleyruins.org/rob/?p=224 Although it has historical landmark status, County Executive Rob Astorino has allowed it to fall into disrepair by refusing funds to rehab it. If we don't preserve American history, what do we preserve? Interested? A petition to the powers that be>>> http://www.thepetitionsite.com/124/825/144/george-washingtons-headquarters-must-be-saved/ Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. Barb [email protected]

The NYC Municipal Archives has NYC Civil Employees' films, approx 1890 - 1920. Before 1898, city employees are listed in alphabetical order by surname [New York County]. Results of these searches are just one line entries showing: name, job title, and annual salary. In 1898, when five counties joined to form Greater New York City, these Civil Service films became more complicated to search. Searchers *must* know the specific county and department where your ancestor worked. When searching for teachers, police or fire employees, it helps to know their more specific school or district. Films are organized by calendar year, then separated by county within the same film. Results for Greater New York City are very genealogically interesting. From a one name search you will glean: name and home address, job title and location, annual salary, start date and date of retirement. Each film begins with the Department of Education, divided by school name. In the 1898 + section, thousands of city employees are listed at: NYC Board of Education including Evening Schools, City Hospital at Blackwell's, Randall Island, City Home at Blackwell's, Kings County Hospital, Cumberland Street Hospital, court employees, fire by engine and hook and ladder company names, Bellevue and Harlem Hospitals, to name a few. A job title such as "stoker," one who keeps facilities heated, could be difficult to search as every building would have several such employees. Knowing the county and department where your ancestor worked will make your search time manageable. Barb [email protected]

There are as many tools as there are obstacles to finding your Czech and Slovak ancestors. While the rich history of these countries can be quite confusing, knowing that history is instrumental in making sense of all the clues in your family history. Follow these four guidelines for navigating Czech and Slovak research to keep you on track for finding accurate information on your family tree. Watch Their Language: Searching records written in another language is challenging enough, but thanks to history and shifting geography, it's hard to know what language your ancestors' records were written in. From Czech and Slovak to German, Latin and Hungarian, there's a lot of variation. Study Geography: Borders and country names have changed quite a bit over time, so your Czech and Slovak ancestral homes might not be in what is present day Czech Republic or Slovakia. What's in a Name: Names can be quite the challenge, but once you learn the patterns and practices put in place, as well as the spelling, you'll discover new avenues of research open up. Find Their Religion: Catholicism was the dominant religion in the former Austro-Hungarian Empire, but it was by no means the only one. Try searching Roman Catholic records as well as Jewish collections to find your ancestors. Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. Barb [email protected]

Angeline SULLIVAN 1883/ Sept 8 born NY/NY/NY Parents: James J Sullivan & Catherine Nolan Siblings? NYC Orphanage..fire 1905---Manhattan NYC; ED 5 AD; 452 W 47th; AD Margaret Sullivan 52, b IRE; 48y USA; housework Angeline Sullivan 24, b NY 1910---Mamaroneck NY 1915 Queens/Flushing...333 Amity St; servant; age 31 SANBORN 1920 Queens, Flushing/Jan 15; ED222; Ward 3 24 S. Paysons Ave; age 36 [1883]; NY/NY/NY; servant 1926/Jan 23...Birth---LA/CA: William Warren Fuller 1930/April...Pasedena CA Age 46; NY/USA/USA 1960/Aug 25; Death OBIT: “a native of Staten Island” California death index lists her birth date as September 8, 1883. cleaned houses for a living after my dad was born and for the rest of her life so she must have had very little education. She was a Protestant after dad was born and an active member of the United Presbyterian church in Pasadena. The census does say she can read and write and dad remembers her able to read and she did not have an accent so she probably was born and raised in the US. She followed some female evangelist’s church group to Pasadena and she stayed there for the rest of her life. I do not know anything else.

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Holiday visitors to NYC are reminded to take a horse and carriage ride through Central Park. This is the best way that you can support this predominantly Irish profession. (And, it's possible to negotiate the price.) NYC Mayor-elect Bill de Blasio again threatens this 100+ year old tradition. Union drivers invited de Blasio to visit the three West side stables he publicly condemned. But, the Mayor never showed up. What's next for de Blasio's? Bread pretzel stands? Hot chestnut street sellers? He isn't after the rapper, street acrobats in City Hall Park who pressure onlookers to make "donations" hour after hour each weekday. More on the horse and carriage issue, from Irish Central below. Barb ----------------------- New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio has gotten back on the horse, so to speak, and is once again spearheading a charge against the horse and carriage trade in Central Park. Last week the mayor announced a plan to reduce the number of horse carriages from the current level of 230 by two-thirds. The plan also calls for the horses to be stabled in Central Park instead of where they currently reside on the far West Side of Manhattan, so they can avoid traffic on city streets. De Blasio heavily courted the anti-horse carriage lobby during his run for mayor in 2013, and promised to eliminate the traditionally Irish industry on “day one” of his mayoralty. The lobby, led by main group NYCLASS, donated heavily to de Blasio’s campaign, and has consistently called on the mayor to make good on his promise. Eliminating the much-loved horse and carriage trade, however, has proven politically thorny and unpopular with the public. A bill to quash the horses and offer jobless carriage drivers a license to operate green taxis outside of Manhattan was introduced in the City Council last December but was never acted on because a majority of members have not signaled support. Continued here> http://www.irishcentral.com/news/irishvoice/New-Yorks-horse-and-carriage-drivers-nix-Bill-de-Blasios-new-plans-VIDEOS.html

If you would like to share your condolences with John Martino's family, this is the place to post those wishes>>>> http://www.maconnellfuneralhome.com/tribute/details/5502/John_Martino/add-condolence.html#content-start Barb -----Original Message----- Dear IGG Members, Our beloved John Martino will be waked at > M. A. Connell Funeral Home Address: 934 New York Ave, Huntington Station, NY 11746 Phone:(631) 427-1123 Wake: 2-4 and 7-9 on Saturday and Sunday, http://www.maconnellfuneralhome.com/tribute/details/5502/John_Martino/service-information.html#tribute-start Requiem Mass will be at 10 AM Monday St. Francis of Assisi Church 29 Northgate Drive, Greenlawn, NY Burial at Calverton on Monday. Full Military. Angela LaGiglia Italian Genealogical Group Bethpage Public Library, 47 Powell Ave., Bethpage, New York http://italiangen.org http://www.maconnellfuneralhome.com/

The key to tracing your clan back to Poland is to determine their original Polish names, first and last-including maiden names for women. Follow these steps to establish their names! Look for Changes in Spelling The name you know your ancestor by from North American records may or may not be the same one he or she used back home. Like other immigrants, Poles sometimes "translated" their given names to the English equivalents (Jan becomes John; Katarzyna becomes Katherine). Check for Misinterpretations Because Polish orthography is so different from English, immigrants often altered the spelling or pronunciation of surnames to make them look and sound less foreign. The Polish alphabet has 32 letters - 9 vowels and 23 consonants (note that q, v, and x are not normally used). The additional letters with diacriticals (accent marks) were often misinterpreted: It's not uncommon to discover the given name W��adys��aw transcribed as Wtadystaw. The surname Zdziebko is might be listed as Fdziebko because the Z was written in the European manner, with a crossbar through the middle. Establish When the Change Occurred These name changes generally occurred after arrival in the United States or Canada, so expect your ancestors to appear in earlier records, including passenger arrival lists, with their Polish names. This is where it helps to understand Polish naming practices. Roman Catholics, for example, would often name a child after a saint whose feast day was celebrated on or near the baby's date of birth or baptism. Books that can help you determine given names in Latin, Polish and German, and find surname spellings, include Polish Surnames: Origins and Meanings by William "Fred" Hoffman and First Names of the Polish Commonwealth: Origins and Meanings by William F. Hoffman and George W. Helon (both from the Polish Genealogical Society of America). Create a List Use this information to create a list of the surnames and first names you're searching, as well as potential alternate spellings and variations to look for in online databases and print indexes. I hope this brings you closer to yourancestors, Barb

Dear IGG Members, Our beloved John Martino will be waked at M. A. Connell Funeral Home Address: 934 New York Ave, Huntington Station, NY 11746 Phone:(631) 427-1123 2-4 and 7-9 on Saturday and Sunday, Mass will be at 10 AM Monday St. Francis of Assisi Church 29 Northgate Drive, Greenlawn, NY Burial at Calverton on Monday. Full Military. Angela LaGiglia Italian Genealogical Group Bethpage Public Library, 47 Powell Ave., Bethpage, New York. Meetings:Second Saturday of the month; January - June, September - November. Christmas Luncheon, December [email protected] http://italiangen.org PO Box 626 Bethpage, New York 11714-0626

Dear IGG Members, It is with deep sorrow that I announce the death of our Special Projects Coordinator, John Martino, at 10:30 AM today. John dedicated all his spare time to coordinating the funding and digitizing of our online databases which have been so helpful to researchers worldwide. We are all saddened by this news. Arrangements are pending. I will send another email as soon as I have that knowledge. Angela LaGiglia Italian Genealogical Group Bethpage Public Library, 47 Powell Ave., Bethpage, New York. Meetings:Second Saturday of the month; January - June, September - November. Christmas Luncheon, December [email protected] http://italiangen.org PO Box 626 Bethpage, New York 11714-0626

One of the best books reflective of immigrant life in New York City is "How the Other Half Lives" by Jacob Riis. This is especially true for Irish immigrants who stuffed the infamous Sixth Ward. Riis is perhaps New York City's first photojournalist and Danish immigrant. After a night sleeping in a police station, where his watch and dog were stolen, Riis set out to capture the disenfranchised through his photos. A show of his work is going on at the Museum of the City of New York. The Museum of the City of New York 1220 Fifth Ave, NY, NY http://www.mapquest.com/us/ny/new-york/10029-5221/1220-5th-ave-40.792711,-73.952267 Open daily 10am - 6pm Barb

One of the best books reflective of immigrant life in New York City is "How the Other Half Lives" by Jacob Riis. This is especially true for Irish immigrants who stuffed the infamous Sixth Ward. Riis is perhaps New York City's first photojournalist and Danish immigrant. After a night sleeping in a police station, where his watch and dog were stolen, Riis set out to capture the disenfranchised through his photos. A show of his work is going on at the Museum of the City of New York. The Museum of the City of New York 1220 Fifth Ave, NY, NY http://www.mapquest.com/us/ny/new-york/10029-5221/1220-5th-ave-40.792711,-73.952267 Open daily 10am - 6pm Barb