No, they are not. Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Hammons <[email protected]> To: 'mizscarlettny' <[email protected]>; nynewyor <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2016 4:44 pm Subject: RE: [NYNEWYOR] RC Church: St Brigid's & St. Emeric 3rd ANNIVERSARY Are the deaths from St. Brigids online? Thank you -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mizscarlettny via Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 2:19 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [NYNEWYOR] RC Church: St Brigid's & St. Emeric 3rd ANNIVERSARY Dear Friends, The 3rd anniversary of St. Brigid's restoration will honor Irish people at a gathering on Sunday, 31 January, after the 1pm Mass. Ed Torres says the purpose pf the party is to honor the Irish people. http://irishecho.com/2016/01/st-brigids-to-mark-3rd-anniversary/ Many of us recall the "Save St. Brigid's Church" movement. Ed Torres chaired the committee to save this Lower East Side icon which was built by Irish shipwrights as a refuge to surviving Irish immigrants, circa 1848. This was some saga of man versus the machine! The Archdiocese of NY condemned, then closed it. The wrecking ball struck. Miraculously a court injunction halted ultimate destruction. An anonymous saved the day by contributing 20 million dollars! NEW St. Brigid's, pics and history>>> http://ny.curbed.com/tags/st-brigids St. Brigid's is located at East 8th Street and Avenue B, Manhattan. Today it is an Hispanic parish. These are St. Brigid's genealogical records, from NYCNuts.>>> Baptisms: 1848—1937 & beyond. Confirmations: 1869—1936. Marriages: 1849—1937 & beyond. Deaths: 1848—1937 & beyond Trustees' Minutes: 1848—1937 & beyond. Church of Saint Brigid-Saint Emeric 119 Avenue B New York, NY 10009 (646) 476-5617 Barb [email protected] ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Are the deaths from St. Brigids online? Thank you -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mizscarlettny via Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 2:19 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [NYNEWYOR] RC Church: St Brigid's & St. Emeric 3rd ANNIVERSARY Dear Friends, The 3rd anniversary of St. Brigid's restoration will honor Irish people at a gathering on Sunday, 31 January, after the 1pm Mass. Ed Torres says the purpose pf the party is to honor the Irish people. http://irishecho.com/2016/01/st-brigids-to-mark-3rd-anniversary/ Many of us recall the "Save St. Brigid's Church" movement. Ed Torres chaired the committee to save this Lower East Side icon which was built by Irish shipwrights as a refuge to surviving Irish immigrants, circa 1848. This was some saga of man versus the machine! The Archdiocese of NY condemned, then closed it. The wrecking ball struck. Miraculously a court injunction halted ultimate destruction. An anonymous saved the day by contributing 20 million dollars! NEW St. Brigid's, pics and history>>> http://ny.curbed.com/tags/st-brigids St. Brigid's is located at East 8th Street and Avenue B, Manhattan. Today it is an Hispanic parish. These are St. Brigid's genealogical records, from NYCNuts.>>> Baptisms: 1848—1937 & beyond. Confirmations: 1869—1936. Marriages: 1849—1937 & beyond. Deaths: 1848—1937 & beyond Trustees' Minutes: 1848—1937 & beyond. Church of Saint Brigid-Saint Emeric 119 Avenue B New York, NY 10009 (646) 476-5617 Barb [email protected] ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Friends, The 3rd anniversary of St. Brigid's restoration will honor Irish people at a gathering on Sunday, 31 January, after the 1pm Mass. Ed Torres says the purpose pf the party is to honor the Irish people. http://irishecho.com/2016/01/st-brigids-to-mark-3rd-anniversary/ Many of us recall the "Save St. Brigid's Church" movement. Ed Torres chaired the committee to save this Lower East Side icon which was built by Irish shipwrights as a refuge to surviving Irish immigrants, circa 1848. This was some saga of man versus the machine! The Archdiocese of NY condemned, then closed it. The wrecking ball struck. Miraculously a court injunction halted ultimate destruction. An anonymous saved the day by contributing 20 million dollars! NEW St. Brigid's, pics and history>>> http://ny.curbed.com/tags/st-brigids St. Brigid's is located at East 8th Street and Avenue B, Manhattan. Today it is an Hispanic parish. These are St. Brigid's genealogical records, from NYCNuts.>>> Baptisms: 1848—1937 & beyond. Confirmations: 1869—1936. Marriages: 1849—1937 & beyond. Deaths: 1848—1937 & beyond Trustees' Minutes: 1848—1937 & beyond. Church of Saint Brigid-Saint Emeric 119 Avenue B New York, NY 10009 (646) 476-5617 Barb [email protected]

Hi Virginia, Yes, watched it and took notes (always do). Frankly I was relieved that the primary resources they cited [Emigrant Industrial Savings Bank [NYC], US Census, Griffith's Valuation [Ireland]] are the same that I use. On the other hand, there were no surprises or suggested "new" records. The program's researchers were uninformed about Irish culture and history. There was no clarification as to what made the Irish experience unique. I view the Gates' emceed series as "entertainment," not educational. "Irish Famine" is not only an outdated phrase, but is historically revisionist. Let's call a spade a spade once and forever: The era of the potato crop blight was truly the genocide of our Irish-Catholic, tenant-farming ancestors, who were only "allowed" to eat potatoes by the English gentry. On special occasions beets and turnips were dietary supplements. Meanwhile, the English exported thousands of pounds of beef, pork, lamb, etc, while our ancestors died in muddy gutters. Stripped of rights to vote, pray, own property, or be educated, we farmed the rocky landscapes so that the English landowners could thrive. Stories of Irish immigrants to the U.S.A. is deplete without a cause and effect, an answer to WHY our Irish were rebels, literary geniuses, Civil War soldiers, politicians, union activists, widows raising ten children...and, drunks. We are the movers and shakers. Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: VLB via <[email protected] Did anyone see the Irish-focused episode of Finding Your Roots on PBS the other night? It profiled Bill O'Reilly, Bill Maher and Soledad O'Brien. I saw the show and thought it was pretty good tho wish they could have done an hour on each person. There's enough material for that and more. I had a few reservations. Bill Maher was lucky enough to have an ancestor with an Emigrant Bank account with full details of his townland of origin. There was a variant spelling of his townland which he thought was a clerk's careless error. It would have been helpful to point out that spelling of both personal names and place names was extremely variable over time in Ireland and probably elsewhere. So there was no 'wrong' spelling. The show also featured a labor leader ancestor and seemed to indicate that the labor movement started in the early 20c when in fact it was much earlier than that as any high school student should know. The Irish were prominent in the early labor movement, eg Terence Powderly, head of the Knights of Labor, the first national labor union in the US.But I quibble. Wish they had a weekly show about Irish genealogy! Did any of you see this and what did you think? Virginia

Getcher popcorn ready! Tonight's 2nd episode of season 3 of the Henry Louis Gates moderated series "Finding your Roots" will focus on celebrities with Irish heritage. That's 8pm eastern on PBS. Barb [email protected]

Thanks for phoning Castle Garden about the site being down, Terry. Now, Castle Garden is up and running, Folks! http://castlegarden.org/ For those new to genealogy, this was the central port of immigration in NYC before Ellis Island opened in 1892. As with the Ellis Island people search link, at http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/passenger, both search engines are based upon transcribed records. Use their results as clues before viewing the actual ship manifests online at Ancestry or in person at NYC NARA. I hope this brings you closer to your ancestors. Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Terry Bora via < I just called them. They were unaware of this issue until I told them. The lady thanked me and said they'll 'reset' the site and it should be up and running later today. Terry -----Original Message----- From: Pat Connors via Thanks all that replied. I now wonder how long it has been down? It is a great site and one that has helped solve a number of my mysteries. Maybe we should just all contribute and they will get it up again. I am just wondering if it is me or the website. I cannot get it to do a search. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com [email protected]

Hi Barb, Bill Maher has one parent that is Irish & one Jewish, however they are not mutually exclusive. We have Jewish cousins who are Irish & still live in Ireland. Thanks for the heads-up on the upcoming program. Regards, Sherri The 2nd episode titled "The Irish Factor" will focus on Soledad O'Brien, Bill O'Reilly and Bill Maher (who I always thought was Jewish...hmmm

Dear Friends, If your family is anything like mine, some of your Irish removed to Scotland, probably for work. Who ever thought that coal mining was an opportunity? My McKENNAs! To start the new year off right, Scotland's People offers free index searching* of Catholic Births, Marriages and Deaths in Scotland, here> http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/?utm_campaign=news&utm_medium=email&utm_source=sp&utm_content=756396 * You must register to search. However, they don't provide enough peeks into the docs, so that you can ascertain whether a records is definitively your family. You also have to purchase points for payment as different docs are different points. It's an oversimplification, but you get it. When Scotland's people was new online, I walked away with four generations of my Irish who sojourned in Scotland for a few decades. The records were a genealogist's delight. Lost ancestors? Try Scotland...ya never know. Barb [email protected]

Dear Friends, Evidently season 3 of "Finding Your Roots," the Henry Louis Gates series, began Tuesday night on PBS, 8pm NY time. Next Tuesday, Jan 12, getcher popcorn ready, folks! The 2nd episode titled "The Irish Factor" will focus on Soledad O'Brien, Bill O'Reilly and Bill Maher (who I always thought was Jewish...hmmm). Livin' and learnin'. Barb [email protected]

The Kerry Association of New York will install its first female president, Loretta King, at a gathering this Friday evening, January 8. http://www.kerrymen.org/ABOUT-US.html Barb [email protected]

Here's another free search engine for a Happy 2016. The New England Historic Genealogical Society (NEHGS)* http://americanancestors.org/2016 * Not limited to New England states Again, you must REGISTER> http://www.americanancestors.org/join/?reg-type=free SEARCH here> http://www.americanancestors.org/search/advanced-search NOTE: You'll find traditional access to SSDI at NEGHS. I hope this brings you closer to your ancestors. Barb [email protected]

Thanks to Shannah Twiss for posting this site on the Brooklyn list. IRISH OBITUARIES 2005-2015 rip.ie/mbr/register.php Searching and viewing are free, but first you must sign up on the bottom left where it says "Register Here." Once you register, look in your email to confirm membership. Just open that email and begin searching. TIP: Adjust the start date to January 1, 2005 for the most hits. I hope this brings you closer to your ancestors. Barb

Thanks for asking about Hart Island, Patricia. Hart Island (in Bronx County NYC) has been an active burial site for those who died impoverished, or without family contacts, since May 1881. It was the 10th known potter's field in NYC. Other such locations were at today's Washington Square, Madison Square, Bellevue Hospital, NYPL, and Ward's and Randall's Islands. Hart Island's public burial ground is referred to as a "Potter's Field." Here, the deceased are buried in graves with non-relatives, and without individual headstones or markers. Please note, Catholic cemeteries in metro NYC did provided similar free burials for such persons, when the loved one's religion was known. Within the Catholic auspices these burials are called "charity burials." If your ancestor died in a Catholic hospital, and you can't confirm a burial cemetery, check a Catholic cemetery. I am positive that Calvary [opened 1850s] and St John's [opened circa 1881] in Queens NYC had charity burials. I've discovered Hart Island burials in five online search engines, and all do not cross reference with each other. 1) NYC MUNICIPAL BURIALS https://familysearch.org/search/collection/2240477 Clue: Enter a surname, then you have to click into each hit. Some are indicated by a Bronx death. 2) IGG...Death search. http://italiangen.org/ Clue: Enter "Death Search." Prior it about 1916, burials may appear as New York Co., or Westchester] Co. 3) NYC CORRECTION DEPT.---Prisoners perform burials. http://a073-hartisland-web.nyc.gov/hartisland/pages/search/search.jsf 4) HART ISLAND homepage, begins 1980 https://www.hartisland.net/burial_records/search 5) HART ISLAND BURIALS @ Find A Grave http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=65710 Curious about Hart Island? Check out this New York Times article.>>>> http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/10/online-searching-for-those-buried-and-often-forgotten-on-hart-island/?_r=0 I hope this brings you closer to your ancestors, Barb in NY -----Original Message----- Patricia Hammons via [email protected] Is the Hart Island grave database on line?

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Is the Hart Island grave database on line? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mizscarlettny via Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:54 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Burial location// Burial permit// Death certificate Hi Pat, The death certificate form used by NYC hospitals differs from the standard civil form. The name of the burial cemetery* appears in one of two places: near the bottom left corner or on page 2 near the bottom (or the reverse side of the form). In both instances it is usually next to the funeral home name or address. FYI You must confirm a burial with the cemetery. Sometimes the death certificate is wrong because a surviving family member provided a cemetery name on the spot, yet had to make arrangments. Since your ancestor died in 1910 at St. Vincent's [Catholic] Hospital in NY County she is most likely buried at Calvary. Calvary Cemetery 49-02 Laurel Hill Boulevard Woodside, NY 11377 (718) 786-8000 PLEASE NOTE: In NYC records we do not have access to "burial permits" which the city provided directly to each cemetery via the undertaker. Also, with historical NYC deaths, we don't pay as much attention to undertaker information as one might do in small town America where the same funeral home was in business for decades. Pat, please repost if Calvary Cemetery does not have your ancestor's burial and we'll help you again. Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Hammons via [email protected] I have my ancestors death certificate which was in 1910. It does not list where the body was remove to or the funeral home. I would like to find out where she is buried. She died at St. Vincent Hospital Manhattan NY, NY. She was Catholic, don't know if she remained a Catholic since, she had divorced prior to 1910. I don't know where to search for burial permit or even if it would have information I want. Thanks Pat ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bob, No informant space on death certificate. It was a "free ground"/charity interment for impoverished folks. He is interred in Section 18, with many non-relatives in non-specific graves. Barb -----Original Message----- From: Robert Pieterse <[email protected]> People who were laborers get obituaries . If they are lucky they might get a one line death notice. Who was the informant on the DC and who is buried on the same plot and grave ?? ----Original Message----- From: mizscarlettny via <[email protected]> Dear Friends, Can anyone find an Obit, Naturalization, Irish roots, any other viable facts? A single, Irish immigrant named Alexander McGUIRE died at St. Catherine's Hospital, 133 Bushwick Avenue, Brooklyn, NY 11206 http://www.brooklynvisualheritage.org/st-catherines-hospital on Monday afternoon, November 29, 1886, certificate # 14320. This is Ward 15 and in the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn. He was a patient at St. Kit's for about 6 weeks before dying of "red blood swelling of the brain." Alexander was 53 years old, and born about 1832-1833, and according to his death certificate, both of his parents were also born in Ireland. He worked as a laborer and no informant, or home address, or usual residence, is noted on his death certificate. St. John's Cemetery in Queens confirmed Alexander's burial on 1 December 1886, although he does not appear in their online cemetery index search. He is interred in Section 18, the "free ground" aka "charity" section where a large Statue of the Blessed Mother marks the entire section; there are no individual markers. Section 18 by is just within the back gates off of Furmanville Avenue. Let's connect Alexander McGUIRE to his family in Ireland. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=McGuire&GSiman=1&GScid=66012&GRid=156364767& Barb ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Friends, A single, Irish immigrant named Alexander McGUIRE died at St. Catherine's Hospital, 133 Bushwick Avenue, Brooklyn, NY 11206 http://www.brooklynvisualheritage.org/st-catherines-hospital on Monday afternoon, November 29, 1886, certificate # 14320. This is Ward 15 and in the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn. He was a patient at St. Kit's for about 6 weeks before dying of "red blood swelling of the brain." Alexander was 53 years old, and born about 1832-1833, and according to his death certificate, both of his parents were also born in Ireland. He worked as a laborer and no informant, or home address, or usual residence, is noted on his death certificate. St. John's Cemetery in Queens confirmed Alexander's burial on 1 December 1886, although he does not appear in their online cemetery index search. He is interred in Section 18, the "free ground" aka "charity" section where a large Statue of the Blessed Mother marks the entire section; there are no individual markers. Section 18 by is just within the back gates off of Furmanville Avenue. Let's connect Alexander McGUIRE to his family in Ireland. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=McGuire&GSiman=1&GScid=66012&GRid=156364767& Can anyone find an Obit, Naturalization or any other viable facts? Barb ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Friends, A single, Irish immigrant named Alexander McGUIRE died at St. Catherine's Hospital, 133 Bushwick Avenue, Brooklyn, NY 11206 http://www.brooklynvisualheritage.org/st-catherines-hospital on Monday afternoon, November 29, 1886, certificate # 14320. This is Ward 15 and in the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn. He was a patient at St. Kit's for about 6 weeks before dying of "red blood swelling of the brain." Alexander was 53 years old, and born about 1832-1833, and according to his death certificate, both of his parents were also born in Ireland. He worked as a laborer and no informant, or home address, or usual residence, is noted on his death certificate. St. John's Cemetery in Queens confirmed Alexander's burial on 1 December 1886, although he does not appear in their online cemetery index search. He is interred in Section 18, the "free ground" aka "charity" section where a large Statue of the Blessed Mother marks the entire section; there are no individual markers. Section 18 by is just within the back gates off of Furmanville Avenue. Let's connect Lawrence McGUIRE to his family in Ireland. Can anyone find an Obit, Naturalization or any other viable facts? Barb

Thanks, Catherine. Yes, I'm on the Corrections/Findings Elf & sent it off to Don already. Merry CHRISTmas, New YAWK!!!!! Barb -----Original Message----- From: Cathycowell <[email protected]> Just FYI, Not my family however you can contact IGG/GGG and they can add it to you to their lists. Just provide the same data as you have mentioned below. Catherine > On Dec 25, 2015, at 4:06 PM, mizscarlettny via <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > I have a marriage certificate that is not my family. > This groom's name is missing from the IGG/GGG Marriage Index, > and this marriage is missing from the Brooklyn Homepage's "Marriages." > > If this is your family and you'd like the certificate, please email me off list. > > KINGS COUNTY MARRIAGE > 1878/ March 19th > GROOM: William Hall MACKIE > 137 Yates Ave > Age: 25y > Occupation: Shoe business > Place of Birth: N.Y. > Father's Name: Andrew > Mother's Maiden Name: Amelia BEBEE or BEEBER > No of Groom's Marriage: 1 > > Bride: Mary SCANDLON [may appear as SCANELLON] > 137 Yates Avenue > Age: 19y > Place of Birth: Staten Island > Father's Name: Bernard Cameron SCANDLON > Mother's Maiden Name: Mary Ann BRADY > No of Bride's Marriage: 1 > > Officiant: Lewis Ray FOOTE, Clergyman > Witnesses: Mrs. L. R. FOOTE [wife of officiant?] > Miss Ella CRANDELL > > > > > > > > Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. > > > > Barb > > [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Friends, I have a marriage certificate that is not my family. This groom's name is missing from the IGG/GGG Marriage Index, and this marriage is missing from the Brooklyn Homepage's "Marriages." If this is your family and you'd like the certificate, please email me off list. KINGS COUNTY MARRIAGE 1878/ March 19th GROOM: William Hall MACKIE 137 Yates Ave Age: 25y Occupation: Shoe business Place of Birth: N.Y. Father's Name: Andrew Mother's Maiden Name: Amelia BEBEE or BEEBER No of Groom's Marriage: 1 Bride: Mary SCANDLON [may appear as SCANELLON] 137 Yates Avenue Age: 19y Place of Birth: Staten Island Father's Name: Bernard Cameron SCANDLON Mother's Maiden Name: Mary Ann BRADY No of Bride's Marriage: 1 Officiant: Lewis Ray FOOTE, Clergyman Witnesses: Mrs. L. R. FOOTE [wife of officiant?] Miss Ella CRANDELL Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. Barb [email protected]