Today is St. Blaise Day (and my college roommate's birthday). St. Blaise was the patron state of throat illnesses for humans and animals, and for wool combers and wool trading. He was considered to be the healer of souls. Barb [email protected] .

Getcher popcorn ready, Folks! Tonight, Dr. Henry Louis Gates, Jr. moderates Season 3, Episode 5 of "Finding Your Roots" 8pm eastern, on PBS Theme: "Visionaries" Focus Celebs: Frank Gehry, Maya Lin, Richard Branson Barb [email protected]

Great point, Mark, but that's not a definitive predictor. Often a site lists the newspaper you're looking for, but doesn't have the years you need. I still rely on my volumes of Maher's "Index to Marriages and Deaths in the New York Herald" [favored by Irish], but that ends in 1876. The value of any subscription will depend on whether the company has digitized the newspapers you are interested in. Before subscribing, check to see which newspapers it has available. Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Mark Lomax <[email protected]> Access to Newspaperarchive.com ​is available through many public libraries. Check with your local public libraries before subscribing. I have access through the Los Angeles Public Library. Currently, I have a personal subscription to GenealogyBank.com, and I had a subscription to Newspapers.com (owned by Ancestry.com), which I let lapse. They all have different newspapers available for searching. The value of any subscription will depend on whether the company has digitized the newspapers you are interested in. Before subscribing, check to see which newspapers it has available. Mark Lomax California On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 8:41 AM, mizscarlettny via <[email protected]> wrote: Heads Up: Newspaper Archives (http://newspaperarchive.com/) that self-touts it has the "world's largest newspaper collections," was just fined $100k for deceptive online practices. http://www.thegazette.com/subject/news/newspaper-archive-inc-pays-100000-20151208 About a month ago I asked if folks prefer using Newspapers.com or Genealogy bank. At that time I didn't know about Newspaper Archives. Some customer complaints, filed through the Iowa Attorney General's Office, were that members could not cancel subscription renewals, receive responses to phone calls and emails, and receive legitimate refunds. Newspaper Archives is banned from misleading customers to make donations when they engage services. We've encountered similar frustrations with online services. Let's hope that this case sets a precedent. Barb [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Heads Up: Newspaper Archives (http://newspaperarchive.com/) that self-touts it has the "world's largest newspaper collections," was just fined $100k for deceptive online practices. http://www.thegazette.com/subject/news/newspaper-archive-inc-pays-100000-20151208 About a month ago I asked if folks prefer using Newspapers.com or Genealogy bank. At that time I didn't know about Newspaper Archives. Some customer complaints, filed through the Iowa Attorney General's Office, were that members could not cancel subscription renewals, receive responses to phone calls and emails, and receive legitimate refunds. Newspaper Archives is banned from misleading customers to make donations when they engage services. We've encountered similar frustrations with online services. Let's hope that this case sets a precedent. Barb [email protected]

Today is St. Brigid’s Day, and also the first day of spring, according to the ancient Celtic calendar. St. Brigid was born in what is today County Louth circa 451, and she died in County Kildare in 525. Barb [email protected]

There was a public forum last Friday about the horse drawn carriage industry. A city council member felt that City Council Bill 573-A did not clarify *why* this 150 year old tradition of horse drawn carriages, should be diminished in size. This industry employees predominant Irish-Americans. Mayor di Blasio tends to advocate for urban immigrants, which is what makes this issue even more confusing. You never had a more romantic date than one that was capped by a hansom carriage ride through Central Park. A given. Back to today, NYC history, our Irish immigrants, and the impact on today....If you'd like to know more about the latest negotiations, please read here>>> http://www.irishcentral.com/news/irishvoice/NYC-Council-meeting-leaves-horse-and-carriage-reps-asking-questions.html Barb [email protected]

Manhattan has its Restaurant Row, but Westchester has "Cemetery Row!" Our ancestors certainly had foresight when they plotted the farmland landscape for the county's largest cemeteries. As you travel north from the Town of North White Plains, along Bronx River Parkway, to the Taconic State Parkway, you reach Valhalla then Hawthorne.* Metro North Railroad's Harlem Line has stations in all three towns. Proximity to trains was certainly a consideration for this master plan. And, it's super convenient to those of us who perform gravestone photography. These are the cemeteries in Cemetery Row. Gate of Heaven---RC, inception 1916 [usurped old Fairview Cemetery] 10 West Stevens Ave. Hawthorne, NY 10532-2205 914-769-3673 Kensico Cemetery---Non-sect; inception 1889 273 Lakeview Avenue Valhalla, NY 10595 Toll free 1-888-KENSICO (536-7426) Mount Eden Cemetery---Jewish; inception 1927 20 Commerce St, Hawthorne, NY 10532 914-769-0603 Mount Pleasant Cemetery---Jewish; inception 1889 80 Commernce Street Hawthorne, NY 914-769-0397 Sharon Gardens---Jewish; inception 1953; maintained by Kensico 273 Lakeview Avenue Valhalla, NY 10595 Toll free: 1-888-KENSICO (536-7426) [closed Saturdays] * Hawthorne NY was named after American author, Nathaniel Hawthorne. His daughter Rose converted to Catholicism and began Rosary Hill, a cancer hospice in Hawthorne NY. Barb [email protected]

If you cannot locate a pre-1916 burial cemetery for a loved one, this is for you. When Gate of Heaven Cemetery opened (1916; Catholic), their grounds usurped the old Fairview Cemetery (non-sectarian). Fairview deaths are definitely in section 36, and perhaps adjacent areas. (MAP: http://gateofheavenny.com/pdf/Gate-of-Heaven-Cemetery-Map.pdf) Gate of Heaven is the only NY Archdiocesan cemetery in Westchester County NY. St. Raymond's is the only NY Archdiocesan cemetery in Bronx County NY. Fairview Cemetery is not listed in Find A Grave's 236 county cemeteries, nor is it listed in Westchester Gen Web. Gate of Heaven is digitizing its burials. Staff and I experimented with death dates to determine if Fairview burials appear in their database yet. We did get hits for as far back as 1910 and I noticed some Jewish names were found that year. This tells me that Gate of Heaven is incorporating its early Fairview Cemetery records into their database. Sharon Gardens,Valhalla NY is in the same area, but didn't begin serving only Jewish residents until 1953. Sharon Gardens is a section of the non-sectarian Kensico Cemetery, Valhalla, NY (non-sectarian, opened 1889). In conclusion, if you have Jewish ancestors who died in Westchester or Bronx counties pre 1953, check Kensico Cemetery first. If your Jewish and non-Catholic ancestors died before 1916, check with with Gate of Heaven and ask them to search Fairview Cemetery records. You just might find that missing ancestor's burial. Barb [email protected]

thank you. David On 1/30/2016 4:55 PM, Jim Garrity via wrote: > Dear Listmembers, > > I find nothing wrong with the original post, as shown below - I don't want there to be any further argumentation on the list about this topic. That's all I'm going to say about this. ANY more carrying on about the topic will force me to deal with the situation further, and you don't want this to happen, believe me. > > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- >> From: W David Samuelsen via <[email protected]> >> Sent: Jan 30, 2016 11:17 AM >> To: New York co NY <[email protected]> >> Subject: [NYNEWYOR] SAMPUBCO - changes and more records >> >> This is a genealogy blog linked to the website. >> >> I'm trying to finish delivery of this message to remaining counties of >> New York when there was a mail server problem stopped delivery of this >> blog last month. >> >> http://sampubco.blogspot.com/2015/12/change-coming-to-sampubco.html >> >> Since Dec 31, more records added >> >> Iowa: Jasper >> Indiana: Franklin, Rush >> Kansas: Elk >> Massachusetts: Norfolk >> New York: Herkimer >> Pennsylvania: Philadelphia >> Rhode Island, Towns of Smithfield, Pawtucket, Westerly >> Vermont: Bennington, Windsor >> Virginia: Lee, Dickenson >> >> home page: >> http://www.sampubco.com >> >> W. David Samuelsen >> SAMPUBCO >> >> >> ************************************* >> Jim Garrity, List Administrator >> [email protected] >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Listmembers, I find nothing wrong with the original post, as shown below - I don't want there to be any further argumentation on the list about this topic. That's all I'm going to say about this. ANY more carrying on about the topic will force me to deal with the situation further, and you don't want this to happen, believe me. Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] -----Original Message----- >From: W David Samuelsen via <[email protected]> >Sent: Jan 30, 2016 11:17 AM >To: New York co NY <[email protected]> >Subject: [NYNEWYOR] SAMPUBCO - changes and more records > >This is a genealogy blog linked to the website. > >I'm trying to finish delivery of this message to remaining counties of >New York when there was a mail server problem stopped delivery of this >blog last month. > >http://sampubco.blogspot.com/2015/12/change-coming-to-sampubco.html > >Since Dec 31, more records added > >Iowa: Jasper >Indiana: Franklin, Rush >Kansas: Elk >Massachusetts: Norfolk >New York: Herkimer >Pennsylvania: Philadelphia >Rhode Island, Towns of Smithfield, Pawtucket, Westerly >Vermont: Bennington, Windsor >Virginia: Lee, Dickenson > >home page: >http://www.sampubco.com > >W. David Samuelsen >SAMPUBCO > > >************************************* >Jim Garrity, List Administrator >[email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Barb, Did you catch the name of the genealogist? I would like to see if I can watch that online, Thanks Nicola Davies Auckland, New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mizscarlettny via Sent: Saturday, 30 January 2016 4:27 p.m. To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [NYNEWYOR] TV NOW: Genealogy Hey Folks, TV show "20/20" ABC, channel 7 in NYC NOW A genealogist is cold calling possible relatives of: l) an abandoned baby; 2) a woman's half brother that she never met; 3) a woman seeking her biological father. Looks goo so far. Barb [email protected] ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

-----Original Message----- From: W David Samuelsen via <[email protected] To: New York co NY <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jan 30, 2016 11:37 am Subject: [NYNEWYOR] SAMPUBCO - changes and more records This is a genealogy blog linked to the website. I'm trying to finish delivery of this message to remaining counties of New York when there was a mail server problem stopped delivery of this blog last month. http://sampubco.blogspot.com/2015/12/change-coming-to-sampubco.html Since Dec 31, more records added Iowa: Jasper Indiana: Franklin, Rush Kansas: Elk Massachusetts: Norfolk New York: Herkimer Pennsylvania: Philadelphia Rhode Island, Towns of Smithfield, Pawtucket, Westerly Vermont: Bennington, Windsor Virginia: Lee, Dickenson home page: http://www.sampubco.com W. David Samuelsen SAMPUBCO ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This requires my response to set you straight and not let you confuse others. Miz, obvious you did NOT bother to read carefully, not only that you forwarded to Westchester list. 1. The lists I created from RAW records. 15-20 years before the images start going online, and those images are still without any online indexes except mine. AND the lists are FREE to read and decide. 2. Provided the link to FamilySearch's county probate collection. 3. Only thing I sell is "Clean Scanned, Paper or PDF copy of record" and the link is provided for more details on this: http://www.sampubco.com/wills/order.htm READ this: What do you get from ordering? 1. Straightening the page 2. Crop out excess empty space 3. Resize from oversize 4. Improve contrast if necessary 5. Then the pages are zipped to be sent OR are printed. 6. If PDF is request, the images are incorporated into PDF and sent by email notice. (What is PDF, anyway? It is a booklet of few pages.) And I'm not selling RAW images. I am selling service to make better images or should I say repair (YOU should see many of the raw images in light writing, images being crooked, poor contrast, excess empty space around the images, etc. Probate files are insane, a lot of strips of papers taking up less than half of a page with other half taking space showing nothing on back of strips.) David Samuelsen SAMPUBCO On 1/30/2016 11:07 AM, mizscarlettny via wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: W David Samuelsen via <[email protected] > To: New York co NY <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, Jan 30, 2016 11:37 am > Subject: [NYNEWYOR] SAMPUBCO - changes and more records > > This is a genealogy blog linked to the website. > > I'm trying to finish delivery of this message to remaining counties of > New York when there was a mail server problem stopped delivery of this > blog last month. > > http://sampubco.blogspot.com/2015/12/change-coming-to-sampubco.html > > Since Dec 31, more records added > > Iowa: Jasper > Indiana: Franklin, Rush > Kansas: Elk > Massachusetts: Norfolk > New York: Herkimer > Pennsylvania: Philadelphia > Rhode Island, Towns of Smithfield, Pawtucket, Westerly > Vermont: Bennington, Windsor > Virginia: Lee, Dickenson > > home page: > http://www.sampubco.com > > W. David Samuelsen > SAMPUBCO

This is a genealogy blog linked to the website. I'm trying to finish delivery of this message to remaining counties of New York when there was a mail server problem stopped delivery of this blog last month. http://sampubco.blogspot.com/2015/12/change-coming-to-sampubco.html Since Dec 31, more records added Iowa: Jasper Indiana: Franklin, Rush Kansas: Elk Massachusetts: Norfolk New York: Herkimer Pennsylvania: Philadelphia Rhode Island, Towns of Smithfield, Pawtucket, Westerly Vermont: Bennington, Windsor Virginia: Lee, Dickenson home page: http://www.sampubco.com W. David Samuelsen SAMPUBCO

Hey Folks, TV show "20/20" ABC, channel 7 in NYC NOW A genealogist is cold calling possible relatives of: l) an abandoned baby; 2) a woman's half brother that she never met; 3) a woman seeking her biological father. Looks goo so far. Barb [email protected]

Here is an alphabetized list of veterans who are buried in Ossining, Westchester, NY. http://findgrave.org/city-ossining-ny/ As I previewed several name that I know, I *think* these are more recent burials, meaning, not Civil War veterans, but I did not click on each and every one. Barb [email protected]

Thanks for looking and for the suggestions. Bodies in Transit are not online for 1910. But, another great idea. Take care, Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: sadiegirl06 <[email protected]> To: mizscarlettny <[email protected]>; nynewyor <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Jan 26, 2016 3:13 pm Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] DEATH W/O BURIAL Barb, I checked genealogybank.com and there was no listing for her in the NY area (I used both names). It is very odd that the cemetery was not listed and that the undertaker wasn't even listed. Two ideas: It could be that her body was sent back to Canada so you might want to check "bodies in transit". I know that LDS has a film that has a listing be I don't know if it goes to 1910. I guess then you would need to hunt down the listings after that date. Also, If her family was still in Canada her obit might have been listed there. Where I work there are lots of individuals who die elsewhere and lived many years away from the local city but when they die, the obit is listed in the town they grew up in and in the local paper. Good luck, keep us updated From: "mizscarlettny via" <[email protected]> To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:15:04 PM Subject: [NYNEWYOR] DEATH W/O BURIAL Would SKS please check for an obit or death notice for this woman?>>> DEATH NY County NY Eva/Evangeline THOMPSON* Death Date: 4 May 1910, age 55, died at St. Vincent's Hospital in Manhattan Her Canadian BC given name is Marie Clothilde Evangeline, but she was always called Eva and the DC says Eva. Raised Catholic. I have the DC but, no cemetery or burial date or undertaker is noted, then phoned several cemeteries without luck. The certificate format is too early for "Informant" slot. Never saw a DC so incomplete before. An OBIT would really help. Thanks, Barb.

Thank you, Sheila, and to those who responded and searched for a death notice or obituary. I volunteered to find Eva THOMPSON's burial since the descendant lives in MO. Eva is not interred at Hart Island; good suggestion though. Since she was a Catholic widow, then died in St. Vincent's Hospital, I only phoned Catholic cemeteries. Time to phone non-sectarian ones. Records were checked for THOMPSON and TOMPSON. Although she had family in MO, OH, and CAN, neither a death notice nor burial is there. She is not interred with NYC family either, or in the same cemeteries as family. Thanks everyone. Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Sheila MacAvoy Block via <[email protected]> To: ny-irish <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jan 27, 2016 9:40 am Subject: [NY-IRISH] DEATH W/O BURIAL Perhaps this woman's body was not claimed and she was buried at Hart's Island. I forget the years records are now available online for Hart's Island, but I believe it does not go back as far as 1910. The NYC Municipal Archives has the burial records, but they are not indexed. Since you have the DC and a specific date, it might be possible to find the record at Muni Arch. See http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/archives/collections_cemeteries.shtml This is like looking for a needle in a haystack, but I've done crazier things. Your woman might also have been buried in Canada. Sheila ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barb, I checked genealogybank.com and there was no listing for her in the NY area (I used both names). It is very odd that the cemetery was not listed and that the undertaker wasn't even listed. Two ideas: It could be that her body was sent back to Canada so you might want to check "bodies in transit". I know that LDS has a film that has a listing be I don't know if it goes to 1910. I guess then you would need to hunt down the listings after that date. Also, If her family was still in Canada her obit might have been listed there. Where I work there are lots of individuals who die elsewhere and lived many years away from the local city but when they die, the obit is listed in the town they grew up in and in the local paper. Good luck, keep us updated ----- Original Message ----- From: "mizscarlettny via" <[email protected]> To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:15:04 PM Subject: [NYNEWYOR] DEATH W/O BURIAL Would SKS please check for an obit or death notice for this woman?>>> DEATH NY County NY Eva/Evangeline THOMPSON* Death Date: 4 May 1910, age 55, died at St. Vincent's Hospital in Manhattan Her Canadian BC given name is Marie Clothilde Evangeline, but she was always called Eva and the DC says Eva. Raised Catholic. I have the DC but, no cemetery or burial date or undertaker is noted, then phoned several cemeteries without luck. The certificate format is too early for "Informant" slot. Never saw a DC so incomplete before. An OBIT would really help. Thanks, Barb. [email protected] ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barb, Pretty much all of her close family came to St. Louis, MO, would be surprised, if she is buried in Canada, you never know. I did check St. louis Post obits again since I found her death date, hoping there might be an obit there, since she had a sister still alive then. But didn't find anything. Not surprised though. Seems none of the sisters ever had an obit etc. I rechecked the diocese cemeteries too in St. Louis, nothing there. It is a thought, that she was poor at this time and may have donated her body to science or cremated, still seems to be a sloppy job on the DC. None of the immed. Family had cemetery stones either, but at least I found the records on the ones in St. Louis. Pat -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of sadiegirl06 via Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 2:13 PM To: mizscarlettny <[email protected]>; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] DEATH W/O BURIAL Barb, I checked genealogybank.com and there was no listing for her in the NY area (I used both names). It is very odd that the cemetery was not listed and that the undertaker wasn't even listed. Two ideas: It could be that her body was sent back to Canada so you might want to check "bodies in transit". I know that LDS has a film that has a listing be I don't know if it goes to 1910. I guess then you would need to hunt down the listings after that date. Also, If her family was still in Canada her obit might have been listed there. Where I work there are lots of individuals who die elsewhere and lived many years away from the local city but when they die, the obit is listed in the town they grew up in and in the local paper. Good luck, keep us updated ----- Original Message ----- From: "mizscarlettny via" <[email protected]> To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:15:04 PM Subject: [NYNEWYOR] DEATH W/O BURIAL Would SKS please check for an obit or death notice for this woman?>>> DEATH NY County NY Eva/Evangeline THOMPSON* Death Date: 4 May 1910, age 55, died at St. Vincent's Hospital in Manhattan Her Canadian BC given name is Marie Clothilde Evangeline, but she was always called Eva and the DC says Eva. Raised Catholic. I have the DC but, no cemetery or burial date or undertaker is noted, then phoned several cemeteries without luck. The certificate format is too early for "Informant" slot. Never saw a DC so incomplete before. An OBIT would really help. Thanks, Barb. [email protected] ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message