Are guardianship and circuit court records available for review at the NY Municipal Archives? If so, on what floor of the building would these be found and are they open to researchers? Thank you.

Hi Thanks for getting back to me! I will try LDS I didn't know I could get it from them! Thanks again (you learn something new every day from this site!) Mary in VA Rdpiet@aol.com wrote: You can order the death certificate thru the LDS church in SLC for two dollars or thru NYC via web site www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vitalrecords/home.shtml ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You can order the death certificate thru the LDS church in SLC for two dollars or thru NYC via web site www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vitalrecords/home.shtml ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Hi all! I have a very big favor to ask of someone who may be going to be looking up death certificates soon! If they would look up a James Ferry, age 53, DOD 21 June 1893, NYC, Certificate number 40290, and let me know if he was married to a Mary Ellen Ferry? I would greatly appreciate it & I am willing to pay for it! Thank you in advance Mary in VA

In the 1870 NYC census, it lists James (33), Julia (26), Julia (2), William (10), and Katie (5). In 1880 NYC census, it lists James (42), Julia (37), William (19), Julia (11), Catherine (9), Grace (6), Flora (2). (James Walker Hay was born in Scotland.). The only birth certificate I never got was of their child William, born in 1861. On the birth records of the other children it says the mother, Julia, was born in NYC, Some say her maiden name was Holmes, others that it was O'Connel, on her death record, it says she was born in NJ. Baptismal records from the Catholic church have the following godparents: Charles E. Homes, Mary A. Quinlan, John Hay, Julia Lanning, Albert O'Connell, Rose O'Connell, William H. Hay, Margaret Auger. According to church records, there are no witnesses (so said the person that sent the information) for the marriage of James and Julia in 1870. After reading the above, I guess what I need is to get the birth certificate of WILLIAM (O'CONNELL or HAY) born in 1861 in NYC. Maybe that would have a clue as to exactly who my Julia was. I certainly would appreciate it if SKS would be able to find that birth certificate for me, and tell me what it says. LOL Thank you, Heidi <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

1900, let me know if this is the correct family and if you want the image. Name: Edward Curren Home in 1900: Brooklyn Ward 26, Kings, New York Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Birthplace: New York Relationship to head-of-house: Head Spouse's name: Minnie Race: White Household Members: Edward Curren 33 Minnie Curren 28 Edgar Curren 2 Edith Curren 5 Sarah Curren 3 -- Regards, D.R. "Doc" Begnal-Young - "Pay It Forward" Begnal/Young-Blaschko/Blaskow-Perry/Pereira Cardoso-Wilson www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/ Genealogy Assistance - 14 years online researching http://www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/genealogy-assistance.html The Greater Salt Lake Valley, UT Iamhydee@aol.com wrote: >Hi, listers >I sure wish someone could find my JULIA A. HOLMES O'CONNELL HAY. >She was born sometime between 1840-1844 and probably in NYC. Her last >marriage was to James Walker Hay (in the catholic church) in 1870 but she had >children before that - so they were only baptized in the catholic church when she >knew she was dying. I did find her marriage record from the catholic >church, but she got married before that (I'd guess, and somewhere) 1870, and I'm >down to trying to find out just exactly who SHE is and when was she born. Some >of her records (info given by others) says she was born in Newark, NJ but I >can't find anything there either. >Lastly, she was living on Hudson St., NYC but early on I have an address of >Laight St., NYC. >Any ideas would be most helpful. Of course, if you know who she was that >would be even better! Was she married to an "O'Donnell" before she married >James? >Thank you, >Heidi ><BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free >email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at >http://www.aol.com. >Jim Garrity, List Administrator >jimgarrity@earthlink.net >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Warning ! Be advised this e-mail, DOES NOT contain advertisements or solicitation, nor does CFAS condone spam, phishing or virus perpetuation. Reminder: Beware of any official / authentic looking e-mails from a financial institution, friend, family member or unknown party requiring/asking you to follow a link to any webs site to complete a form or to enter personal information, PIN number, address, phone number etc. Some e-mails now are masking themselves to take on an authentic appearance by using links beginning with HTTPS: or stating within the body of text/html that you're PIN number is not needed to complete the form/transaction. First contact your financial institution or other entity for authentication of an e-mail as such and or deal directly in person with your financial institution or other entity. For further details visit: http://www.computer-firstaid.com/alerts.html

Hi Heidi, Not knowing when and where Edward was born or Minnie, if any siblings or not, this might be them in 1920 Name: Edward Caerren Home in 1920: Brooklyn Assembly District 2, Kings, New York Age: 52 years Estimated birth year: abt 1868 Birthplace: New York Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's name: Minnie B Father's Birth Place: New York Mother's Birth Place: New York Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Home owned: Own Household Members: Edward Caerren 52 Minnie B Caerren 45 Edward Caerren 21 Clifford Caerren 14 -- Regards, D.R. "Doc" Begnal-Young - "Pay It Forward" Begnal/Young-Blaschko/Blaskow-Perry/Pereira Cardoso-Wilson www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/ Genealogy Assistance - 14 years online researching http://www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/genealogy-assistance.html The Greater Salt Lake Valley, UT Iamhydee@aol.com wrote: >Hi, listers >I sure wish someone could find my JULIA A. HOLMES O'CONNELL HAY. >She was born sometime between 1840-1844 and probably in NYC. Her last >marriage was to James Walker Hay (in the catholic church) in 1870 but she had >children before that - so they were only baptized in the catholic church when she >knew she was dying. I did find her marriage record from the catholic >church, but she got married before that (I'd guess, and somewhere) 1870, and I'm >down to trying to find out just exactly who SHE is and when was she born. Some >of her records (info given by others) says she was born in Newark, NJ but I >can't find anything there either. >Lastly, she was living on Hudson St., NYC but early on I have an address of >Laight St., NYC. >Any ideas would be most helpful. Of course, if you know who she was that >would be even better! Was she married to an "O'Donnell" before she married >James? >Thank you, >Heidi ><BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free >email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at >http://www.aol.com. >Jim Garrity, List Administrator >jimgarrity@earthlink.net >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Warning ! Be advised this e-mail, DOES NOT contain advertisements or solicitation, nor does CFAS condone spam, phishing or virus perpetuation. Reminder: Beware of any official / authentic looking e-mails from a financial institution, friend, family member or unknown party requiring/asking you to follow a link to any webs site to complete a form or to enter personal information, PIN number, address, phone number etc. Some e-mails now are masking themselves to take on an authentic appearance by using links beginning with HTTPS: or stating within the body of text/html that you're PIN number is not needed to complete the form/transaction. First contact your financial institution or other entity for authentication of an e-mail as such and or deal directly in person with your financial institution or other entity. For further details visit: http://www.computer-firstaid.com/alerts.html

my apologizes for posting this to the entire list. This was meant for "Doc." frank ----- Original Message ----- From: frank dillman To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 17:21 Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] JULIA A. HOLMES O'CONNELL Doc, I just joined the New York list to post a request for assistance with the now extinct fire patrol. Glad to see you are still out there. I still have the information on the Alabama fire house you wanted a picture of. One of these days unless someone beats me to it. I finally called working for someone (Auburn University) quits effective 1 July 06. There is no procedure for non-faculty to work less than 40 hrs a week with any type of benefits. I asked for 75% of my salary and the equivalent in my benefits and the provost said "no" which made my decision a lot easier to make. Damn faculty can get all sorts of perks such as working 9 months while receiving all benefits, with the prof paying slightly more, getting upwards to 90+% of their 12 month salary, and paid if working during the summer semester. I was asked by my department head, who I will add did nothing that I am aware of to change the policy thereby to keep me, if I would work part time. I told him I'll not be a servant to anyone. Obviously he and I didn't part of good terms. In fact we have yet to say goodbye to each other and I am sure he is relieved to be rid of this thorn in his side. However I have no regrets in being the thorn as I knew the department could be bett! er for my actions. Retirement is great but my days are full. In fact "worked" through lunch today. I hope you are well. Have a pleasant day. Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: Doc To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Cc: NYNEWYOR-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 16:54 Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] JULIA A. HOLMES O'CONNELL Hi Heidi, I notice you state Julia A. was born between 1840-44, probably in NYC, but then state records have her born in New Jersey. Also, if she was born lets say 1842, NY or NJ, then to marry lets say at 18, would be 1860, to whom is unknown, but presume O'Connell, since you are not sure if she married an O'Connell before James Hay in 1870. But then you say she had children before she married James Hay, so I would pressume then she was married to O'Connell/Connell or someone else then. I have looked in 1850, to find her with parents, whoever they might be. There are three listed born in NY about 1843 plus minus 2 years, Julia Holmes Cleveland Ward 2, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1840 New York Julia Holmes Cleveland Ward 3, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1843 New York Julia M Holmes Charlton, Saratoga, NY abt 1840 New York And as for NJ, only one, Julia Holmes, Raritan, Monmouth, NJ, abt 1844 New Jersey 1860, only one Julia A. born NY, none born in NJ and these searches, I did not specify which state she maybe living in. Julia Holmes Brooklyn Ward 6 District 3, Kings, NY 20 abt 1840 New York Female Julia A Holmes Kingsbury, Washington, NY 18 abt 1842 New York Female This Julia A. is living with Wm C Holmes 40 Juliett A Holmes 37 Julia A Holmes 18 Sarah J Holmes 9 George H Holmes 4 The other Julia b. abt 1840, NY is living with the following Sbanas Holmes 55 Elizabeth Holmes 55 Lewis H Holmes 27 Frank S Holmes 19 Julia Holmes 20 Sarah A Holmes 16 John H Holmes 13 Ann Lzous 25 Sarah Kenny 23 In 1860, presuming she may have married before James Hay to an OConnell/Connell there is only one, there are no other Julia O'Connell's born either NY or NJ as O'Connell or Connell. Julia Connell, New York Ward 8 District 3, New York, NY 16 abt 1844 New York Female, but she is a daughter. Looking in 1870 for a James Hayes, not knowing when or where he was born, there are 106, living in NY. 1880, there is a James Hayes, b. 1837, NY, with a Julia, b. abt. 1838, NY, no children....another Hayes family most likely the brother of James, a Robert Hayes. Any suggestions? -- Regards, D.R. "Doc" Begnal-Young - "Pay It Forward" Begnal/Young-Blaschko/Blaskow-Perry/Pereira Cardoso-Wilson www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/ Genealogy Assistance - 14 years online researching http://www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/genealogy-assistance.html The Greater Salt Lake Valley, UT Iamhydee@aol.com wrote: >Hi, listers >I sure wish someone could find my JULIA A. HOLMES O'CONNELL HAY. >She was born sometime between 1840-1844 and probably in NYC. Her last >marriage was to James Walker Hay (in the catholic church) in 1870 but she had >children before that - so they were only baptized in the catholic church when she >knew she was dying. I did find her marriage record from the catholic >church, but she got married before that (I'd guess, and somewhere) 1870, and I'm >down to trying to find out just exactly who SHE is and when was she born. Some >of her records (info given by others) says she was born in Newark, NJ but I >can't find anything there either. >Lastly, she was living on Hudson St., NYC but early on I have an address of >Laight St., NYC. >Any ideas would be most helpful. Of course, if you know who she was that >would be even better! Was she married to an "O'Donnell" before she married >James? >Thank you, >Heidi ><BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free >email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at >http://www.aol.com. >Jim Garrity, List Administrator >jimgarrity@earthlink.net >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Warning ! Be advised this e-mail, DOES NOT contain advertisements or solicitation, nor does CFAS condone spam, phishing or virus perpetuation. Reminder: Beware of any official / authentic looking e-mails from a financial institution, friend, family member or unknown party requiring/asking you to follow a link to any webs site to complete a form or to enter personal information, PIN number, address, phone number etc. Some e-mails now are masking themselves to take on an authentic appearance by using links beginning with HTTPS: or stating within the body of text/html that you're PIN number is not needed to complete the form/transaction. 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Doc, I just joined the New York list to post a request for assistance with the now extinct fire patrol. Glad to see you are still out there. I still have the information on the Alabama fire house you wanted a picture of. One of these days unless someone beats me to it. I finally called working for someone (Auburn University) quits effective 1 July 06. There is no procedure for non-faculty to work less than 40 hrs a week with any type of benefits. I asked for 75% of my salary and the equivalent in my benefits and the provost said "no" which made my decision a lot easier to make. Damn faculty can get all sorts of perks such as working 9 months while receiving all benefits, with the prof paying slightly more, getting upwards to 90+% of their 12 month salary, and paid if working during the summer semester. I was asked by my department head, who I will add did nothing that I am aware of to change the policy thereby to keep me, if I would work part time. I told him I'll not be a servant to anyone. Obviously he and I didn't part of good terms. In fact we have yet to say goodbye to each other and I am sure he is relieved to be rid of this thorn in his side. However I have no regrets in being the thorn as I knew the department could be better for my actions. Retirement is great but my days are full. In fact "worked" through lunch today. I hope you are well. Have a pleasant day. Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: Doc To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Cc: NYNEWYOR-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 16:54 Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] JULIA A. HOLMES O'CONNELL Hi Heidi, I notice you state Julia A. was born between 1840-44, probably in NYC, but then state records have her born in New Jersey. Also, if she was born lets say 1842, NY or NJ, then to marry lets say at 18, would be 1860, to whom is unknown, but presume O'Connell, since you are not sure if she married an O'Connell before James Hay in 1870. But then you say she had children before she married James Hay, so I would pressume then she was married to O'Connell/Connell or someone else then. I have looked in 1850, to find her with parents, whoever they might be. There are three listed born in NY about 1843 plus minus 2 years, Julia Holmes Cleveland Ward 2, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1840 New York Julia Holmes Cleveland Ward 3, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1843 New York Julia M Holmes Charlton, Saratoga, NY abt 1840 New York And as for NJ, only one, Julia Holmes, Raritan, Monmouth, NJ, abt 1844 New Jersey 1860, only one Julia A. born NY, none born in NJ and these searches, I did not specify which state she maybe living in. Julia Holmes Brooklyn Ward 6 District 3, Kings, NY 20 abt 1840 New York Female Julia A Holmes Kingsbury, Washington, NY 18 abt 1842 New York Female This Julia A. is living with Wm C Holmes 40 Juliett A Holmes 37 Julia A Holmes 18 Sarah J Holmes 9 George H Holmes 4 The other Julia b. abt 1840, NY is living with the following Sbanas Holmes 55 Elizabeth Holmes 55 Lewis H Holmes 27 Frank S Holmes 19 Julia Holmes 20 Sarah A Holmes 16 John H Holmes 13 Ann Lzous 25 Sarah Kenny 23 In 1860, presuming she may have married before James Hay to an OConnell/Connell there is only one, there are no other Julia O'Connell's born either NY or NJ as O'Connell or Connell. Julia Connell, New York Ward 8 District 3, New York, NY 16 abt 1844 New York Female, but she is a daughter. Looking in 1870 for a James Hayes, not knowing when or where he was born, there are 106, living in NY. 1880, there is a James Hayes, b. 1837, NY, with a Julia, b. abt. 1838, NY, no children....another Hayes family most likely the brother of James, a Robert Hayes. Any suggestions? -- Regards, D.R. "Doc" Begnal-Young - "Pay It Forward" Begnal/Young-Blaschko/Blaskow-Perry/Pereira Cardoso-Wilson www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/ Genealogy Assistance - 14 years online researching http://www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/genealogy-assistance.html The Greater Salt Lake Valley, UT Iamhydee@aol.com wrote: >Hi, listers >I sure wish someone could find my JULIA A. HOLMES O'CONNELL HAY. >She was born sometime between 1840-1844 and probably in NYC. Her last >marriage was to James Walker Hay (in the catholic church) in 1870 but she had >children before that - so they were only baptized in the catholic church when she >knew she was dying. I did find her marriage record from the catholic >church, but she got married before that (I'd guess, and somewhere) 1870, and I'm >down to trying to find out just exactly who SHE is and when was she born. Some >of her records (info given by others) says she was born in Newark, NJ but I >can't find anything there either. >Lastly, she was living on Hudson St., NYC but early on I have an address of >Laight St., NYC. >Any ideas would be most helpful. Of course, if you know who she was that >would be even better! Was she married to an "O'Donnell" before she married >James? >Thank you, >Heidi ><BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free >email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at >http://www.aol.com. >Jim Garrity, List Administrator >jimgarrity@earthlink.net >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Warning ! Be advised this e-mail, DOES NOT contain advertisements or solicitation, nor does CFAS condone spam, phishing or virus perpetuation. Reminder: Beware of any official / authentic looking e-mails from a financial institution, friend, family member or unknown party requiring/asking you to follow a link to any webs site to complete a form or to enter personal information, PIN number, address, phone number etc. Some e-mails now are masking themselves to take on an authentic appearance by using links beginning with HTTPS: or stating within the body of text/html that you're PIN number is not needed to complete the form/transaction. First contact your financial institution or other entity for authentication of an e-mail as such and or deal directly in person with your financial institution or other entity. For further details visit: http://www.computer-firstaid.com/alerts.html Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, listers I sure wish someone could find my JULIA A. HOLMES O'CONNELL HAY. She was born sometime between 1840-1844 and probably in NYC. Her last marriage was to James Walker Hay (in the catholic church) in 1870 but she had children before that - so they were only baptized in the catholic church when she knew she was dying. I did find her marriage record from the catholic church, but she got married before that (I'd guess, and somewhere) 1870, and I'm down to trying to find out just exactly who SHE is and when was she born. Some of her records (info given by others) says she was born in Newark, NJ but I can't find anything there either. Lastly, she was living on Hudson St., NYC but early on I have an address of Laight St., NYC. Any ideas would be most helpful. Of course, if you know who she was that would be even better! Was she married to an "O'Donnell" before she married James? Thank you, Heidi <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Hi Heidi, I also found, Name: Julia A. O'Connell Home in 1880: Brandon, Franklin, New York Age: 37 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Birthplace: New York Relation to head-of-household: Wife Spouse's name: Francis Father's birthplace: Ireland Mother's birthplace: Ireland Occupation: Keeping House Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Female Household Members: Francis O'Connell 48 Julia A. O'Connell 37 Hellen O'Connell 19, b. abt. 1861 George O'Connell 15 Minnie O'Connell 12 Effie O'Connell 8 Frank O'Connell 6 -- Regards, D.R. "Doc" Begnal-Young - "Pay It Forward" Begnal/Young-Blaschko/Blaskow-Perry/Pereira Cardoso-Wilson www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/ Genealogy Assistance - 14 years online researching http://www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/genealogy-assistance.html The Greater Salt Lake Valley, UT Iamhydee@aol.com wrote: >Hi, listers >I sure wish someone could find my JULIA A. HOLMES O'CONNELL HAY. >She was born sometime between 1840-1844 and probably in NYC. Her last >marriage was to James Walker Hay (in the catholic church) in 1870 but she had >children before that - so they were only baptized in the catholic church when she >knew she was dying. I did find her marriage record from the catholic >church, but she got married before that (I'd guess, and somewhere) 1870, and I'm >down to trying to find out just exactly who SHE is and when was she born. Some >of her records (info given by others) says she was born in Newark, NJ but I >can't find anything there either. >Lastly, she was living on Hudson St., NYC but early on I have an address of >Laight St., NYC. >Any ideas would be most helpful. Of course, if you know who she was that >would be even better! Was she married to an "O'Donnell" before she married >James? >Thank you, >Heidi ><BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free >email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at >http://www.aol.com. >Jim Garrity, List Administrator >jimgarrity@earthlink.net >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Warning ! Be advised this e-mail, DOES NOT contain advertisements or solicitation, nor does CFAS condone spam, phishing or virus perpetuation. Reminder: Beware of any official / authentic looking e-mails from a financial institution, friend, family member or unknown party requiring/asking you to follow a link to any webs site to complete a form or to enter personal information, PIN number, address, phone number etc. Some e-mails now are masking themselves to take on an authentic appearance by using links beginning with HTTPS: or stating within the body of text/html that you're PIN number is not needed to complete the form/transaction. First contact your financial institution or other entity for authentication of an e-mail as such and or deal directly in person with your financial institution or other entity. For further details visit: http://www.computer-firstaid.com/alerts.html

Hi Heidi, I notice you state Julia A. was born between 1840-44, probably in NYC, but then state records have her born in New Jersey. Also, if she was born lets say 1842, NY or NJ, then to marry lets say at 18, would be 1860, to whom is unknown, but presume O'Connell, since you are not sure if she married an O'Connell before James Hay in 1870. But then you say she had children before she married James Hay, so I would pressume then she was married to O'Connell/Connell or someone else then. I have looked in 1850, to find her with parents, whoever they might be. There are three listed born in NY about 1843 plus minus 2 years, Julia Holmes Cleveland Ward 2, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1840 New York Julia Holmes Cleveland Ward 3, Cuyahoga, OH abt 1843 New York Julia M Holmes Charlton, Saratoga, NY abt 1840 New York And as for NJ, only one, Julia Holmes, Raritan, Monmouth, NJ, abt 1844 New Jersey 1860, only one Julia A. born NY, none born in NJ and these searches, I did not specify which state she maybe living in. Julia Holmes Brooklyn Ward 6 District 3, Kings, NY 20 abt 1840 New York Female Julia A Holmes Kingsbury, Washington, NY 18 abt 1842 New York Female This Julia A. is living with Wm C Holmes 40 Juliett A Holmes 37 Julia A Holmes 18 Sarah J Holmes 9 George H Holmes 4 The other Julia b. abt 1840, NY is living with the following Sbanas Holmes 55 Elizabeth Holmes 55 Lewis H Holmes 27 Frank S Holmes 19 Julia Holmes 20 Sarah A Holmes 16 John H Holmes 13 Ann Lzous 25 Sarah Kenny 23 In 1860, presuming she may have married before James Hay to an OConnell/Connell there is only one, there are no other Julia O'Connell's born either NY or NJ as O'Connell or Connell. Julia Connell, New York Ward 8 District 3, New York, NY 16 abt 1844 New York Female, but she is a daughter. Looking in 1870 for a James Hayes, not knowing when or where he was born, there are 106, living in NY. 1880, there is a James Hayes, b. 1837, NY, with a Julia, b. abt. 1838, NY, no children....another Hayes family most likely the brother of James, a Robert Hayes. Any suggestions? -- Regards, D.R. "Doc" Begnal-Young - "Pay It Forward" Begnal/Young-Blaschko/Blaskow-Perry/Pereira Cardoso-Wilson www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/ Genealogy Assistance - 14 years online researching http://www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/genealogy-assistance.html The Greater Salt Lake Valley, UT Iamhydee@aol.com wrote: >Hi, listers >I sure wish someone could find my JULIA A. HOLMES O'CONNELL HAY. >She was born sometime between 1840-1844 and probably in NYC. Her last >marriage was to James Walker Hay (in the catholic church) in 1870 but she had >children before that - so they were only baptized in the catholic church when she >knew she was dying. I did find her marriage record from the catholic >church, but she got married before that (I'd guess, and somewhere) 1870, and I'm >down to trying to find out just exactly who SHE is and when was she born. Some >of her records (info given by others) says she was born in Newark, NJ but I >can't find anything there either. >Lastly, she was living on Hudson St., NYC but early on I have an address of >Laight St., NYC. >Any ideas would be most helpful. Of course, if you know who she was that >would be even better! Was she married to an "O'Donnell" before she married >James? >Thank you, >Heidi ><BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free >email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at >http://www.aol.com. >Jim Garrity, List Administrator >jimgarrity@earthlink.net >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Warning ! Be advised this e-mail, DOES NOT contain advertisements or solicitation, nor does CFAS condone spam, phishing or virus perpetuation. Reminder: Beware of any official / authentic looking e-mails from a financial institution, friend, family member or unknown party requiring/asking you to follow a link to any webs site to complete a form or to enter personal information, PIN number, address, phone number etc. Some e-mails now are masking themselves to take on an authentic appearance by using links beginning with HTTPS: or stating within the body of text/html that you're PIN number is not needed to complete the form/transaction. First contact your financial institution or other entity for authentication of an e-mail as such and or deal directly in person with your financial institution or other entity. For further details visit: http://www.computer-firstaid.com/alerts.html

HI Heidi, This information makes it difficult, and you say she married in 1870 to James Hay. And the children before that, do you know any names, dates of birth and where? How sure are you she was born in New Jersey? There could be a possibility she married 1870 after the census and this maybe here. Name: Julia A Holmes Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Age in 1870: 30 Birthplace: New Jersey Home in 1870: Bernards, Somerset, New Jersey Living with and all born in New Jersey John M Holmes Bernards, Somerset, NJ abt 1838 New Jersey White Male Harriet Holmes Bernards, Somerset, NJ abt 1861 New Jersey White Female Thomas Holmes Bernards, Somerset, NJ abt 1863 New Jersey White Male Anna B Holmes Bernards, Somerset, NJ abt 1865 New Jersey White Female John W Holmes Bernards, Somerset, NJ abt 1870 New Jersey White Male Also on the same page is Thomas Holmes Bernards, Somerset, NJ abt 1807 England White Male, born England Dinah Holmes Bernards, Somerset, NJ abt 1800 Wales White Female, born Wales Let me know if you feel this maybe her and if you want the image. -- Regards, D.R. "Doc" Begnal-Young - "Pay It Forward" Begnal/Young-Blaschko/Blaskow-Perry/Pereira Cardoso-Wilson www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/ Genealogy Assistance - 14 years online researching http://www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/genealogy-assistance.html The Greater Salt Lake Valley, UT Iamhydee@aol.com wrote: >Hi, listers >I sure wish someone could find my JULIA A. HOLMES O'CONNELL HAY. >She was born sometime between 1840-1844 and probably in NYC. Her last >marriage was to James Walker Hay (in the catholic church) in 1870 but she had >children before that - so they were only baptized in the catholic church when she >knew she was dying. I did find her marriage record from the catholic >church, but she got married before that (I'd guess, and somewhere) 1870, and I'm >down to trying to find out just exactly who SHE is and when was she born. Some >of her records (info given by others) says she was born in Newark, NJ but I >can't find anything there either. >Lastly, she was living on Hudson St., NYC but early on I have an address of >Laight St., NYC. >Any ideas would be most helpful. Of course, if you know who she was that >would be even better! Was she married to an "O'Donnell" before she married >James? >Thank you, >Heidi ><BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free >email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at >http://www.aol.com. >Jim Garrity, List Administrator >jimgarrity@earthlink.net >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Warning ! Be advised this e-mail, DOES NOT contain advertisements or solicitation, nor does CFAS condone spam, phishing or virus perpetuation. Reminder: Beware of any official / authentic looking e-mails from a financial institution, friend, family member or unknown party requiring/asking you to follow a link to any webs site to complete a form or to enter personal information, PIN number, address, phone number etc. Some e-mails now are masking themselves to take on an authentic appearance by using links beginning with HTTPS: or stating within the body of text/html that you're PIN number is not needed to complete the form/transaction. First contact your financial institution or other entity for authentication of an e-mail as such and or deal directly in person with your financial institution or other entity. For further details visit: http://www.computer-firstaid.com/alerts.html

Hi Daniele, Have you tried posting on any of the family or surname message boards or mailing lists for Albanese? Such as http://genforum.genealogy.com/albanese/ http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.albanese/ Regards, D.R. "Doc" Begnal-Young - "Pay It Forward" Begnal/Young-Blaschko/Blaskow-Perry/Pereira Cardoso-Wilson www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/ Genealogy Assistance - 14 years online researching http://www.begnal-enterprises.com/genealogy/genealogy-assistance.html The Greater Salt Lake Valley, UT Daniel Gannon wrote: >Is there anyone on the list who is familiar with the ALBANESE Family that lived at 263 W.25th St.in NYC from the 1930's to the 1960's? > Also is there anyone who can put me in contact with any of the current ALBANESE politicians in NYC? > If so,please contact me at: > dannnan1@bellsouth.net >Grazie!! > Daniele Ginnane in Charleston,SC >Jim Garrity, List Administrator >jimgarrity@earthlink.net >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- Warning ! Be advised this e-mail, DOES NOT contain advertisements or solicitation, nor does CFAS condone spam, phishing or virus perpetuation. Reminder: Beware of any official / authentic looking e-mails from a financial institution, friend, family member or unknown party requiring/asking you to follow a link to any webs site to complete a form or to enter personal information, PIN number, address, phone number etc. Some e-mails now are masking themselves to take on an authentic appearance by using links beginning with HTTPS: or stating within the body of text/html that you're PIN number is not needed to complete the form/transaction. First contact your financial institution or other entity for authentication of an e-mail as such and or deal directly in person with your financial institution or other entity. For further details visit: http://www.computer-firstaid.com/alerts.html

Is there anyone on the list who is familiar with the ALBANESE Family that lived at 263 W.25th St.in NYC from the 1930's to the 1960's? Also is there anyone who can put me in contact with any of the current ALBANESE politicians in NYC? If so,please contact me at: dannnan1@bellsouth.net Grazie!! Daniele Ginnane in Charleston,SC

Is there anyone on the list that is researching the ALBANESE and ELISEO surnames in Manhattan? If so,would you please contact me at; dannnan1@bellsouth.net Thanks. Daniele in Charleston,SC

Hi Jane, For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Oyster Bay-East Norwich Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Oyster Bay-East Norwich Public Library 89 East Main Street Oyster Bay 11771 Tel: 516/922-1212 Fax: 516/922-6453 eMail: ??????? http://www.nassaulibrary.org/oysterbay/Newsite/index.html It is important to know that there are 3 "Oyster Bays" (from smallest to largest, in order of acreage): 1. There is the Hamlet of Oyster Bay (763 acres); 2. There is the Oyster Bay, NY 11771 postal zone (7,002 acres), and it includes the Hamlet of Oyster Bay and parts of other surrounding villages and hamlets within its service area; and, 3. There is the Town of Oyster Bay (70,908 acres), and it includes 18 villages and 18 hamlets as well as the Oyster Bay, NY 11771 postal zone and other postal zones, within its borders. The pertinent current geography: Oyster Bay is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the north most part of the Town of Oyster Bay, in the northeast part of Nassau County. There are 18 villages (municipal corporations) and 18 hamlets (unincorporated areas) all or partly in the Town of Oyster Bay. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Oyster Bay in the Town of Oyster Bay is bordered on the north by Oyster Bay Harbor; on the east by the Village of Oyster Bay Cove; on the south by the Hamlet of East Norwich; and, on the west by the Village of Upper Brookville and the Village of Mill Neck. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Hamlet of Oyster Bay has a different border than does the "Oyster Bay, NY 11771" postal zone (i.e., a place can have an Oyster Bay mailing address and not be in Oyster Bay). .............................................acres .....Hamlet of Oyster Bay............763 .....Oyster Bay, NY 11771........7,002 .....Town of Oyster Bay..........70,908 Thus, you can readily see that 9 of every 10 places with an "Oyster Bay" mailing address are NOT in the Hamlet of Oyster Bay. [These places may be in the Village of Centre Island (incorporated in 1926), the Village of Cove Neck (incorporated in 1927), the Village of Oyster Bay Cove (incorporated in 1931), the Village of Laurel Hollow (incorporated in 1926), the Hamlet of East Norwich, the Village of Muttontown (incorporated in 1931), the Village of Upper Brookville (incorporated in 1932) and the Village of Mill Neck (incorporated in 1924).] For those who have their copy of the 2005 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Oyster Bay in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County on pages 5 & 11 (map) and 12 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

What relevance does this have: Keep in mind that all too often the person they listed as "going to" may not have been known to them personally. Very often someone in their home time had a relative in the new country and everyone and anyone could use the name and address. I have also read that for a period of time single women had to be met at Ellis Island by a man or a family member or they were not permitted on shore. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net When the person sepcified: Keep in mind that all too often the person they listed as "going to" may not have been known to them personally. Very often someone in their home time had a relative in the new country and everyone and anyone could use the name and address. When the poster specified Bridget Duff who put the same address but said she was going to her cousin Mrs Ann Bacon And Annie Bacon has been located at the specified address. ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Annie Bacon is in the 1910 census at the address contained in ur posting. If you want the specifics e mail me direct and I will send you the particulars and the census image. Bob I have another request. My grandmother (Anna Murtagh) arrived in 1904 from Ireland and put 173 East 103rd St, where her sister Mary Murtagh was living, as her destination. She was traveling with Bridget Duff who put the same address but said she was going to her cousin Mrs Ann Bacon. I know Annie and Mary Murtagh moved away, and I assume Bridget Duff did because she was young when she arrived, so I'm hoping I can find this Mrs Ann Bacon in a census somewhere to find out more info about her. Maybe her maiden name? Also maybe someone knows the name of the closest Catholic Church to that 173 East 103rd address. If none of the names can be found in a census, etc maybe I'll find something at the church. ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

I have sent to your e mail address a list of all people named Fox in the 1900 and 1910 US Federal census. Bob ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.