Hello Kate, I can't answer all your questions, but you can find a form to use by going here:http://vitalrec.com/ny.html#State. Wow... the death certificate there are expensive! I thought when I inquired about one some years back they had to be on file for 75 years. Another suggestion would be to write to a library near where he died. I find addresses through the on-line yellow pages. Sometimes the libraries have the deceased indexed by name, so you might get lucky. Sorry, I can't help you more. I have very few relatives with NY connections. Bev Living in Rio Vista, California where the whales are lost (I got to see them) Pray they make it back to the ocean. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate Cunningham" <kate.cun@xtra.co.nz> To: <NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Getting a copy of a Death Certificate and Directories1930's - 1970's > Hi all, > > I was wondering if anyone could help with information on how I go about > applying for a copy of a death certificate for someone who died in 1972... > bearing in mind that I'm in New Zealand and cannot go personally to > request > it. > > I have been searching for information on my husband's uncle, James > McCullough Cunningham for many years. > > I finally managed to get a copy of some SSDI records which shows the > correct > James and that he died in Oct 1972.....no day, just month and year. > > On the day I received his SSDI record I also found his arrival in New York > on the SS Transylvania in 1929....think I also managed to find him in the > 1930 census. WOW what a great day. > > Also are there any online (or not) directories/electoral rolls for the > 1930 > s - 1970's in 1936 when he applied for his SS number he was living at 2032 > 5th Avenue and was working for Union ****? Bank at 6th Avenue and 40th St. > > Any help or suggestions appreciated. > > Cheers, > > Kate > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks Pat for keeping us posted. I look forward to seeing the new photos. It should be noted, however, that previous photos only included the gravestones of those that showed the deceaased was born in Ireland. That is a small percentage of the Irish buried at Calvary whether born in Ireland or not. Of the more than 3-million people buried at Calvary, I would suspect that the Irish would represent "only" half that number, so someone has a lot of work to do. <grin> Dan of Pennsylvania, USA ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I have just completed getting all the new pictures online, almost 1,000 in total. Yes, most of the gravestones are of those that mention a place in Ireland. That is the object of this project! We want to find where in Ireland our ancestors are from, it seems to be the hardest part of our ancestry. Many people from other parts of the country whose ancestors started in NY, don't have the chance to get back to NYC and check their ancestors' origins. So, this is a small part of Calvary and a marvelous gift from two who took time out of their busy lives to help others. Suggestion...even if you don't find your name, or even if you do, if you have the time to check out all the pictures, you just might find a gravestone in the background with your name that is not in the index. It should be noted, however, that previous photos only included the > gravestones of those that showed the deceaased was born in > Ireland. That is a small percentage of the Irish buried at Calvary > whether born in Ireland or not. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Hi Everyone Sorry this may not be the right way, I am not sure, wanted to get as much coverage as I can on this. Also sorry for the how long it is. The main thing I am looking for is information on 2 graves and I do not know where or in what cemetery. Not even for sure that they died in NY, but I am willing to take the time to look thru each one to see, I have been work on and off on this line for 5 years now with no luck yet. Been trying to find a: George John Kuhn, born: 1855 in PA know not where, died I do not know when or where. George was a Railroad worker as stated on my grandmother's Birth Record, but I think it may have been the E.R.R. in NYC 2nd or 3rd Ave. His wife: Rosa Schneider/Schnider/Schider, not sure I have seen it spelled all of these ways, born: 1856 in PA know not where, died I do not know when or where. I do know they had lived in Manhattan, NY, NY in 02 Dec 1881, at North 2305 4th Ave., Manhattan, (this was home Delivery) because I have my grandmothers birth Record that gives their names. I also have her Baptismal Record, My grandmother was born: Catherine Kuhn and at her baptismal she was given Anna and had it form then on all her paperwork as: Catherine Anna Kuhn, I have paperwork (Documents) on forward from there on her but nothing more on them. Catherine Anna Kuhn's Baptismal was 18 Dec 1881 at St. Joseph's of the Holy Family Catholic Church. On my grandmother's Birth Record it shows that she was the 2nd child of Rosa Schneider, beyond that I know nothing of this child. I have also been able to find nothing on George and Rosa's Marriage Record's on when or where. This is at least the 5th time I know of trying to find out information on them with no luck as well as a lot of searching of my own in between times. Any help would be greatly appreciated; if you have anything on them could I please get a copy, maybe photo's of gravestones. Thank You until we talk again, peace be with you and yours Theodore R. VonBartheld tedrvb@bellsouth.net

Thank you Pat for all the work you have done for us and thank you to those who have taken pictures of the headstones. My Gallagher families (2) are so old and made of soap stone they are probably disintegrating rapidly....they were put in around 1870. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

> > Under Gallagher it says 4-047 but there is no picture with that number. > I believe my original post answers your question: > I have added 100 new photos online today and another 100 ready to go online and > then 200 more to format. Keep watching the site over the next couple of > days. As an update, I got 200 pictures up yesterday and hope to finish getting the rest online today. It is a bit of work and takes time. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

I'll pass this along to my Schachtel neighbors across the street. Leslie Moser. Hillsdale, NJ ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I've "rescued" a group of photographs belonging to the SCHACHTEL Family of New York. The first is a photograph of George SCHACHTEL which was taken at the Edsall Studio in New York City, NY. The photograph was likely taken in the 1880's with George appearing to be in his teens at the time. The second is a photograph of Lena SCHACHTEL, also taken at the Edsall Studio in New York City and again, likely sometime in the 1880's with Lena likely in her teens or 20's at the time. The third photograph is identified as Edna SCHACHTEL and was taken at the Leeson Studio in New York City. This photograph was probably taken in the 1880's as well with Edna just a toddler at the time it was taken. The fourth photograph is also of Edna SCHACHTEL, taken at the Schill Studio in Newark, New Jersey. This photograph appears to have been taken in the 1890's with Edna probably about 6 years old at the time. Based on limited research I was able to locate this family in census records as follows: 1880 census of New York City, NY: Michael SCHACHTEL, age 48, a Butcher, born Germany, parents born Germany Elizabeth SCHACHTEL, wife, age 52, born Germany, parents born Germany William SCHACHTEL, son, age 23, a Butcher, born NY Lizzie SCHACHTEL, dau, age 21, born NY Michael SCHACHTEL Jr., son, age 20, born NY George SCHACHTEL, son, age 17, a Butcher, born NY Amelia SCHACHTEL, dau, age 15, a Scholar, born NY Charles SCHACHTEL, son, age 13, a Scholar, born NY William WILLING, son, age 4, born NY, parents born Germany/NY 1900 census of Manhattan Boro, NY: George SCHACHTEL, age 37, born Aug 1862, married 13 years, born NY, parents born Germany, a Real Estate Agent Lena SCHACHTEL, wife, age 33, born Sept 1866, married 13 years, 2 children/2 living, born NY, parents born Germany Edna SCHACHTEL, dau, age 12, born Aug 1887, born NY, at School George SCHACHTEL Jr., son, age 8, born Sept 1891, born NY, at School + 1 Servant + 5 lodgers 1910 census of Manhattan, NY: George SCHACHTEL, age 47, married 23 years, born NY, parents born Germany, a Real Estate Office Owner Lena SCHACHTEL, wife, age 43, married 23 years, 2 children/2 living, born NY, parents born Germany Edna SCHACHTEL, dau, age 22, born NY George SCHACHTEL Jr., son, age 18, born NY, a Clerk I'm hoping to locate someone from this SCHACHTEL Family so that these wonderful old photographs can be returned to their rightful place with family. If you are a member of this SCHACHTEL Family, or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

Hi all- I have a relative who was born William(we're assuming for his father) according to his birth certificate in 1887, but by 1900, his name is John Henry. He was born in Manhattan. In those days would there have been a legal name change, or could the mother just call her son whatever she wanted to on the census? I'm just wondering if there would be a court record for a name change? I'm asking because he was John Henry on his WWI and WWII draft registration, and in his obituary he was John H. No other sign of him ever being William, except on his birth certificate. Thanks! Kate --------------------------------- No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.

Pat, Under Gallagher it says 4-047 but there is no picture with that number. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

I am in the process of putting up photos of another 400 gravestones with Irish names and in many cases, their place of birth. This is a new group of photos donated by Terry Dewhurst to the Queens NY website that I volunteer to host and will add to the already 600 photos donated by Rosemary Mulcahy. You can find them at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyqueen2/ Under Genealogy (top menu bar), click on Cemeteries. On the cemetery page, you will find a link under Transcribed Records Online. I have added 100 new photos online today and another 100 ready to go online and then 200 more to format. Keep watching the site over the next couple of days. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

----- Original Message ----- From: <Rdpiet@aol.com> To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Help needed - JONES/DAY family New York > Census records from 1840 and earler only denote head of houshold > name and then specify ages of others in the household and > gender. > > U specofy NY, do you mean New York City ?? > > With a name like Jones it is almost an impossibility to find > anything unless you have birthdates. > > Bob, FL Usa > > > ************************************** > See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 > 7:54 AM > >

----- Original Message ----- From: <Rdpiet@aol.com> To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Help needed - JONES/DAY family New York > Census records from 1840 and earler only denote head of houshold > name and then specify ages of others in the household and > gender. > > U specofy NY, do you mean New York City ?? > > With a name like Jones it is almost an impossibility to find > anything unless you have birthdates. > > Bob, FL Usa > > > ************************************** > See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/813 - Release Date: 5/20/2007 > 7:54 AM > >

I have what I could get from the church, names of those buried in the vault but no relationships. Have not determined religion. Only have a transcript from the NY County Clerk's records, names of bride and groom, date and 'married by Aaron Clark, Mayor of the City of New York' Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Thiele Fobian To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com ; WS-GENEAL@comcast.net Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] STAPLES Bill-- Have you located WJ's marriage record? Even if it doesn't name his parents, it may be possible to locate a microfilm newspaper mention of the marriage, and perhaps that would name the parents, as well. Do you know what religion he practiced? Searching the STAPLES surname in church records of that denomination in Westchester county may lead to parents' names. I imagine you already know where he is buried and have checked there for other family members. Mary Thiele Fobian Genealogical & Historical Research Pacific Grove, California

Hi Mary, You gave me just the type clue I was hoping for. There is a John Staples buried in the same cemetery as William. Could be William's father. The store in New Rochelle could certainly have been his. If this is William's father a Wall Street office is also possible, William never 'worked' at anything and his son Ernest was a Yachtsman and hung out with the upper crust. I will persue these angles.. Thank you for your help. Best regards Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Thiele Fobian To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com ; WS-GENEAL@comcast.net Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 11:17 AM Subject: Staples & Pelton, John Staples I've come across a mention of a store named Staples & Pelton in New Rochelle, which was being dissolved in 1796 (1796 Jun 28, Greenleaf's New York Journal and Patriotic Register). Also, an 1803 news item mentions a John STAPLES (apparently with an office at Wall Street) selling property in New Rochelle. Mary Thiele Fobian Genealogical & Historical Research Pacific Grove, California ----- Original Message ---- From: WS-GENEAL <WS-GENEAL@comcast.net> To: NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 7:16:50 AM Subject: [NYNEWYOR] STAPLES

New England Historical & Genealogical Register, April 2007. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rdpiet@aol.com> To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Staples & Pelton, John Staples > Source data geneaology bank or something else ?? > > > > ************************************** > See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My DNA profile matches some descendents of Jeffrey. See www.familytreedna.com/staplesfamilyhistory/ for the entire explanation of the present status of this project. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rdpiet@aol.com> To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] STAPLES > Are u saying descendants of other than Jeffrey exhibit the same > DNA profile ?? > > > ************************************** > See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Source data geneaology bank or something else ?? ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Are u saying descendants of other than Jeffrey exhibit the same DNA profile ?? ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hello everyone, I am new to this list and I am hoping someone can help me find my GGGgrandparents. All I know is the following, I have no other information about this family, hence this posting: Parents: James JONES (occupation farmer, New York) and Maria Day only one child found thus far: Thomas JONES born abt 1830, New York, New York. I am sure that this couple (JONES/DAY) would have had more than 1 child. Thomas left America for Australia before 1859. Where he married and had 5 children. If someone can help me or could point me in the right direction I would really appreciate it. desperate Karen Australia _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Missy Higgins new album On A Clear Night – stream full tracks now! http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=781&referral=hotmailtaglineMay&URL=http://music.ninemsn.com.au/playlist.aspx?sectionid=2465&sectionname=artistfeature&subsectionid=9150&subsectionname=missyhiggins&categoryid=2577