Kate, she was born Elizabeth Short b. 05 Jan 1840 in London, England. Helen Barry is her stage name. One of our family members has found records about her acting career in newspaper articles from London and New York - and marriage information. We have a few photographs of her also. But after her husband Harry Bolam died we do not know if she went back on the stage again in the USA or London or what happened to her -- the only other reference we have is that she was presumable in London for the court case in 1892. I don't know what the court case was about. One website on Stage personnel has her dates as 1840-1906 but I don't know where the 1906 comes from. (_http://footlightnotes.tripod.com/_ (http://footlightnotes.tripod.com/) ) I do not have any census records or other records for her. Angela In a message dated 6/5/2007 11:55:02 AM Central Daylight Time, chrismomxyz@yahoo.com writes: Hi- Do you have a birth date/place for her? Have you found her on any census records or city directories? Kate Gilliedog@aol.com wrote: One of my ancestors married Harry George Bolam. I believe he died in 1883 in New York. My ancestor was Elizabeth Short (maiden name) she had been previously married to Alexander Rolls. She was an actress who went under the name of Helen Barry. I do not know which name she may have used when she married Harry George Bolam. In the Obituary Notes of the New York Times of 24 March 1883 announced that her husband H. S. Bolam had died suddenly of pneumonia on 23 March 1883, after they had just arrived in the US. So presumably she had remarried in 1882– 83. He was described as late of Little Ingeatre, Stafford and 12 St James’ s Place, London. In a court case in 1892 she is named Helen Bolam. In 1891 she leased a home in Bellport Long Island - I do not know if she had remarried or was living there under the name of Elizabeth or Helen - Bolam or another name. I do not know if she died in the USA (NY) or London (England) but am interested in contacting any relative of Harry George Bolam as I am trying to find any information for my ancestor. Thank you Angela ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi Angela I found a cast list in the Philadelphia Inquirer for October 28, 1902, which includes Helen Barry, I can't access it, but I can read enough to know its probably her. Kate --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.

Hi- It seems that the 'article' was just an advertisement for a celery tonic. :) So, no evidence that she was actually in the states. Kate --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.

Hi- I saw on the Google News Archives, that Harry Bolam did die in New York, of pneumonia, according to the part of the obituary I could see. It appears she was in the States to act in 1895, according to an article in a Washington State paper of February 23, 1895. It was also in the Philadelphia Inquirer. Kate Gilliedog@aol.com wrote: Kate, she was born Elizabeth Short b. 05 Jan 1840 in London, England. Helen Barry is her stage name. One of our family members has found records about her acting career in newspaper articles from London and New York - and marriage information. We have a few photographs of her also. But after her husband Harry Bolam died we do not know if she went back on the stage again in the USA or London or what happened to her -- the only other reference we have is that she was presumable in London for the court case in 1892. I don't know what the court case was about. One website on Stage personnel has her dates as 1840-1906 but I don't know where the 1906 comes from. (http://footlightnotes.tripod.com/) I do not have any census records or other records for her. Angela In a message dated 6/5/2007 11:55:02 AM Central Daylight Time, chrismomxyz@yahoo.com writes: Hi- Do you have a birth date/place for her? Have you found her on any census records or city directories? Kate Gilliedog@aol.com wrote: One of my ancestors married Harry George Bolam. I believe he died in 1883 in New York. My ancestor was Elizabeth Short (maiden name) she had been previously married to Alexander Rolls. She was an actress who went under the name of Helen Barry. I do not know which name she may have used when she married Harry George Bolam. In the Obituary Notes of the New York Times of 24 March 1883 announced that her husband H. S. Bolam had died suddenly of pneumonia on 23 March 1883, after they had just arrived in the US. So presumably she had remarried in 1882– 83. He was described as late of Little Ingeatre, Stafford and 12 St James’s Place, London. In a court case in 1892 she is named Helen Bolam. In 1891 she leased a home in Bellport Long Island - I do not know if she had remarried or was living there under the name of Elizabeth or Helen - Bolam or another name. I do not know if she died in the USA (NY) or London (England) but am interested in contacting any relative of Harry George Bolam as I am trying to find any information for my ancestor. Thank you Angela --------------------------------- See what's free at AOL.com. --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.

Hi again- Is this her? http://footlightnotes.tripod.com/20040814home.html Kate Gilliedog@aol.com wrote: One of my ancestors married Harry George Bolam. I believe he died in 1883 in New York. My ancestor was Elizabeth Short (maiden name) she had been previously married to Alexander Rolls. She was an actress who went under the name of Helen Barry. I do not know which name she may have used when she married Harry George Bolam. In the Obituary Notes of the New York Times of 24 March 1883 announced that her husband H. S. Bolam had died suddenly of pneumonia on 23 March 1883, after they had just arrived in the US. So presumably she had remarried in 1882– 83. He was described as late of Little Ingeatre, Stafford and 12 St James’s Place, London. In a court case in 1892 she is named Helen Bolam. In 1891 she leased a home in Bellport Long Island - I do not know if she had remarried or was living there under the name of Elizabeth or Helen - Bolam or another name. I do not know if she died in the USA (NY) or London (England) but am interested in contacting any relative of Harry George Bolam as I am trying to find any information for my ancestor. Thank you Angela ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.

Hi- Do you have a birth date/place for her? Have you found her on any census records or city directories? Kate Gilliedog@aol.com wrote: One of my ancestors married Harry George Bolam. I believe he died in 1883 in New York. My ancestor was Elizabeth Short (maiden name) she had been previously married to Alexander Rolls. She was an actress who went under the name of Helen Barry. I do not know which name she may have used when she married Harry George Bolam. In the Obituary Notes of the New York Times of 24 March 1883 announced that her husband H. S. Bolam had died suddenly of pneumonia on 23 March 1883, after they had just arrived in the US. So presumably she had remarried in 1882– 83. He was described as late of Little Ingeatre, Stafford and 12 St James’s Place, London. In a court case in 1892 she is named Helen Bolam. In 1891 she leased a home in Bellport Long Island - I do not know if she had remarried or was living there under the name of Elizabeth or Helen - Bolam or another name. I do not know if she died in the USA (NY) or London (England) but am interested in contacting any relative of Harry George Bolam as I am trying to find any information for my ancestor. Thank you Angela ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.

One of my ancestors married Harry George Bolam. I believe he died in 1883 in New York. My ancestor was Elizabeth Short (maiden name) she had been previously married to Alexander Rolls. She was an actress who went under the name of Helen Barry. I do not know which name she may have used when she married Harry George Bolam. In the Obituary Notes of the New York Times of 24 March 1883 announced that her husband H. S. Bolam had died suddenly of pneumonia on 23 March 1883, after they had just arrived in the US. So presumably she had remarried in 1882– 83. He was described as late of Little Ingeatre, Stafford and 12 St James’s Place, London. In a court case in 1892 she is named Helen Bolam. In 1891 she leased a home in Bellport Long Island - I do not know if she had remarried or was living there under the name of Elizabeth or Helen - Bolam or another name. I do not know if she died in the USA (NY) or London (England) but am interested in contacting any relative of Harry George Bolam as I am trying to find any information for my ancestor. Thank you Angela ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi all- I am seeking others researching this family 2. Louis DeZago, born 1890 in NY; died Bet. January 1935 - 1936 in New York, NY. He was the son of 4. Nicholas DeZago and 5. Rose ?. He married 3. Teresa "Tessie" Lambert Abt. 1918. 3. Teresa "Tessie" Lambert, born January 17, 1898 in NY1; died December 1, 1979 in Nyack Hospital, Nyack, Rockland, NY. She was the daughter of 6. Raphael "Ralph" Lamberta and 7. Maria "Mary" Antoinette DeMassi. Children of Louis DeZago and Teresa Lambert are: i. Nicolas P DeZago, born 1919 in NY1; died 19922; married Edith ?; died Abt. 1980. ii. Ralph F DeZago, born 1920 in NY2; died 2002; married Sonia ?. iii. Anthony DeZago, born 1922 in NY2; died 1974; married Rose ?. iv. George DeZago2, born 1923 in NY; died 1988; married Helen ?. v. John DeZago, born 1925 in NY2; married Donna ?. vi. Rose Dezago, born June 30, 1927 in Orangeburg, Rockland, NY; died August 11, 2005 in Schooley's Mountain, Morris, NJ; married Charles Burgener; died April 11, 2005 in Schooley's Mountain, Morris, NJ. vii. Samuel L DeZago, born 1929 in NY2; died 1999 in Nyack Hospital, Nyack, Rockland, NY; married Isabelle ?. viii. Joseph DeZago, born 1932; died 1998; married Lois Benson. 1 ix. Louis DeZago, born December 22, 1934 in Family Home, Piermont, Rockland, NY; died February 15, 1991 in Family Home, Sparkill, Rockland, NY; married Sarah Jean Girvin June 27, 1970 in Grace Epsicopal Church, Nyack, Rockland, NY. 4. Nicholas DeZago, born Abt. 1848 in Italy3,4; died Bet. 1910 - 1920 in NY?. He married 5. Rose ? Abt. 1875 in Italy?5. 5. Rose ?, born Bet. 1856 - 1861 in Italy5,6; died Bet. 1930 - 1950 in NY?. She was the daughter of 10. ? and 11. ?. Children of Nicholas DeZago and Rose ? are: 2 i. Louis DeZago, born 1890 in NY; died Bet. January 1935 - 1936 in New York, NY; married Teresa "Tessie" Lambert Abt. 1918. ii. ? DeZago 6. Raphael "Ralph" Lamberta, born February 1855 in Italy6,7,8; died Bet. 1910 - 1930. He married 7. Maria "Mary" Antoinette DeMassi Bet. 1888 - 1891 in Italy?9,10. 7. Maria "Mary" Antoinette DeMassi, born April 1870 in Italy11,12; died Aft. 1930. Child of Raphael Lamberta and Maria DeMassi is: 3 i. Teresa "Tessie" Lambert, born January 17, 1898 in NY; died December 1, 1979 in Nyack Hospital, Nyack, Rockland, NY; married Louis DeZago Abt. 1918. Generation No. 4 10. ?, born in Italy13. He married 11. ?. 11. ?, born in Italy13. Child of ? and ? is: 5 i. Rose ?, born Bet. 1856 - 1861 in Italy; died Bet. 1930 - 1950 in NY?; married Nicholas DeZago Abt. 1875 in Italy?.

Hi Heidi- I found your William in 1870, he's 9 years old. Julia is just listed as Hay, so no clue as to her maiden name. :) I'm wondering if you know how long any of these folks lived, I couldn't find them after 1880. Kate Iamhydee@aol.com wrote: I would appreciate it if someone would please look up a WILLIAM HAY, born in NYC (I think) in 1859. The year I got from the 1880 census, but I'm not positive if that is correct. In the 1880 census it said he was a painter, so that is the correct person - now to find out when he was born and what his mother's name was at the time of his birth! I'm looking for this William who would be the son of JAMES WALKER HAY & JULIA O'CONNELL. So far, I have not made the attempt to find this particular male, but am hoping someone will come across him. An address might be Charleton St., or Hudson Street - His mother's maiden name should be O'Connell (but it could be HOLMES). If I'm confusing anyone - just imagine how I'm feeling. LOL I would so appreciate the help in finding the information for my William. Thank you, listers. Heidi ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.

I would appreciate it if someone would please look up a WILLIAM HAY, born in NYC (I think) in 1859. The year I got from the 1880 census, but I'm not positive if that is correct. In the 1880 census it said he was a painter, so that is the correct person - now to find out when he was born and what his mother's name was at the time of his birth! I'm looking for this William who would be the son of JAMES WALKER HAY & JULIA O'CONNELL. So far, I have not made the attempt to find this particular male, but am hoping someone will come across him. An address might be Charleton St., or Hudson Street - His mother's maiden name should be O'Connell (but it could be HOLMES). If I'm confusing anyone - just imagine how I'm feeling. LOL I would so appreciate the help in finding the information for my William. Thank you, listers. Heidi ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi Heidi- I found your William in 1870, he's 9 years old. Julia is just listed as Hay, so no clue as to her maiden name. :) Kate Iamhydee@aol.com wrote: I would appreciate it if someone would please look up a WILLIAM HAY, born in NYC (I think) in 1859. The year I got from the 1880 census, but I'm not positive if that is correct. In the 1880 census it said he was a painter, so that is the correct person - now to find out when he was born and what his mother's name was at the time of his birth! I'm looking for this William who would be the son of JAMES WALKER HAY & JULIA O'CONNELL. So far, I have not made the attempt to find this particular male, but am hoping someone will come across him. An address might be Charleton St., or Hudson Street - His mother's maiden name should be O'Connell (but it could be HOLMES). If I'm confusing anyone - just imagine how I'm feeling. LOL I would so appreciate the help in finding the information for my William. Thank you, listers. Heidi ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

I've "rescued" an old photograph of Sophie NOLTE which was taken at the Edsall Studio in New York City, New York. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1880's with Sophie likely in her teens or 20's at the time it was taken. Based on limited research I was able to locate the following information regarding the woman in the photograph and this family: Sophie Helene Louise NOLTE b. New York City, NY to parents George Louis NOLTE and Caroline HAFNER. Sophie married Johann Wilhelm Hermann LOHN on 27 May 1883 in Manhattan, NY. The family can be traced through census records as follows: 1880 census of Manhattan, NY: George L. NOLTE, age 48, born Bruns, a Hotel Porter, parents born Bruns Caroline NOLTE, wife, age 34, born Baden, Keeping House, parents born Baden/Wertenburg Sophie NOLTE, dau, age 15, born NY George L. NOLTE, son, age 10, born NY, at School Caroline NOLTE, dau, age 8, born NY, at School Charles NOLTE, son, age 7, born NY, at School 1900 census of Manhattan Boro, NY: Herman LOHN, age 41, born Oct 1858, married 17 years, born Germany, parents born Germany, to USA 1874, a Bartender Sophia LOHN, wife, age 35, born Dec 1864, married 17 years, 6 children/4 living, born NY, parents born Germany Emma LOHN, dau, age 10, born Feb 1890, born NY, at School William LOHN, son, age 9, born Mar 1891, born NY, at School Anna LOHN, dau, age 7, born Apr 1893, born NY, at School Herman LOHN, son, age 4, born July 1896, born NY 1910 census of Manhattan, NY: Herman J. W. LOHN, age 51, 2nd marriage 26 years, born Germany, parents born Germany, to USA 1865, a Water Pump Merchant Sophie H. LOHN, wife, age 45, 1st marriage 26 years, 4 children/4 living, born NY, parents born Germany/NY Emily M. LOHN, dau, age 20, born NY, a Milliner William J. H. LOHN, son, age 19, born NY, a Hardware Salesman Anna M. LOHN, dau, age 16, born NY, a Retail Shoe Saleswoman Herman E. LOHN, son, age 14, born NY, a Hardware Store office boy 1920 census of Richmond, NY: Herman J. LOHN, age 61, to USA 1875, born Germany, parents born Germany, a Shipyard Carpenter Sophia LOHN, wife, age 55, born NY, parents born Germany Herman E. LOHN, son, age 24, born NY, an Automobile Garage Clerk I am hoping to locate someone from this family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to their care. If you are a member of this family, or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

Seeking mariage record of Arthur Charles BINGHAM, and Agnes ??, about 1812-1815..In NY.. Any help appreciated... Dick Carter rcar37@prodigy.net

Hi All Does anyone know how to get a Certificate of Marriage for May 4 1860? I have the Church certificate for my greatgrand parents Patrick McKeon & Mary Webb. I am trying to find their parents names. This is my brick wall! I also have the death certificates & got Patrick's parents but on Mary's they put Patrick as the father & Mary as the mother???? I guess they were a little confused! Any help would be greatly appreciated! Mary in VA

Have you tried Ancestry.com's military records? They're free until 6/6 and include some Civil War material; you might get lucky. Have you found them in any US censuses? The 1880 US census (free on www.familysearch.org) has several Patrick Farrell born about 1840. I didn't examine all, but at least one has wife Catherine and son Edward age 14yrs born NY. However, they're in Brooklyn. J Torre ----- Original Message ----- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 16:55:13 -0700 (PDT) From: joe farrell <joefarrell2@yahoo.com> Subject: [NYNEWYOR] find information on great grand parents I M LOOKNG FOR ANY INFORMATION ON MY G-G PARENTS PATRICK[PAT] FARRELL AND KATHERINE[CATHARINE] OR POSSIBLY BRIDGET FARRELL NEE QUALEY.PATRICK ASI UNDERSTAND WAS BORN HERE IN THE U.S.A AND KATHERINE HIS WIFE WAS BORN IN IRELAND BOTH SHOULD BEEN BORN ABOUT THE SAME TIME1840 GIVE A TAKE AFEW YEARS.THEY MAY HAVE LIVED IN HARLEM OR SOUTH BRONX AROUND THE 1860S AND 1870S. PAT MAY HAVE BEEN ACIVIL WAR VET.THEY HAD 3SONS I KNOW OF JOHN[MY GRAND FATHER] JAMES AN ALDERMAN INTHE EARLY 1900S EDWARD A DOCTOR AT ST.FRANCIS HOSPITAL IN THE SOUTH BRONX EARLY 1900S. ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED. JOEFARRELL2@YAHOO.COM

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I'm looking for all information for PETER WHITE and everyone living with him in the 1900 census. His address is 406 East 121st St. I believe he was born in Ireland and should have been born about 1870. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I M LOOKNG FOR ANY INFORMATION ON MY G-G PARENTS PATRICK[PAT] FARRELL AND KATHERINE[CATHARINE] OR POSSIBLY BRIDGET FARRELL NEE QUALEY.PATRICK ASI UNDERSTAND WAS BORN HERE IN THE U.S.A AND KATHERINE HIS WIFE WAS BORN IN IRELAND BOTH SHOULD BEEN BORN ABOUT THE SAME TIME1840 GIVE A TAKE AFEW YEARS.THEY MAY HAVE LIVED IN HARLEM OR SOUTH BRONX AROUND THE 1860S AND 1870S. PAT MAY HAVE BEEN ACIVIL WAR VET.THEY HAD 3SONS I KNOW OF JOHN[MY GRAND FATHER] JAMES AN ALDERMAN INTHE EARLY 1900S EDWARD A DOCTOR AT ST.FRANCIS HOSPITAL IN THE SOUTH BRONX EARLY 1900S. ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED. JOEFARRELL2@YAHOO.COM --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us.

Hi all, I was wondering if anyone could help with information on how I go about applying for a copy of a death certificate for someone who died in 1972... bearing in mind that I'm in New Zealand and cannot go personally to request it. I have been searching for information on my husband's uncle, James McCullough Cunningham for many years. I finally managed to get a copy of some SSDI records which shows the correct James and that he died in Oct 1972.....no day, just month and year. On the day I received his SSDI record I also found his arrival in New York on the SS Transylvania in 1929....think I also managed to find him in the 1930 census. WOW what a great day. Also are there any online (or not) directories/electoral rolls for the 1930 s - 1970's in 1936 when he applied for his SS number he was living at 2032 5th Avenue and was working for Union ****? Bank at 6th Avenue and 40th St. Any help or suggestions appreciated. Cheers, Kate

My ancestors had no money for a stone, much less engraving it! They started burying at Calvary in 1860s. My dad and my uncle finally bought a stone for the plot in the 1960s, when they had a little more disposable income and if happened that their dad died. All it says is the surname. Fortunately, the folks in the office at Calvary have good records and will reply if you write and ask who all is buried there and the dates, and so I was able to get all that --- but not the birth places. You CAN get the parish in Ireland info from the full marriage records at the church where they were married..... look on the LDS films for the parish, rather than just writing for a certificate. They even have the occupations of the bride, groom and their fathers (even if the father is deceased!). I haven't yet done this for NYC but got tons of info from LDS films of NJ parishes, which also had First Holy Communion and Confirmation lists! ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Connors To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Cc: new-england-irish@rootsweb.com ; irish-american@rootsweb.com ; ireland-roll-calls@rootsweb.com ; ny-rollcall@rootsweb.com ; nynewyor@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] [NY-IRISH] Irish in Calvary Cemetery, Queens NY I have just completed getting all the new pictures online, almost 1,000 in total. Yes, most of the gravestones are of those that mention a place in Ireland. That is the object of this project! We want to find where in Ireland our ancestors are from, it seems to be the hardest part of our ancestry. Many people from other parts of the country whose ancestors started in NY, don't have the chance to get back to NYC and check their ancestors' origins. So, this is a small part of Calvary and a marvelous gift from two who took time out of their busy lives to help others. Suggestion...even if you don't find your name, or even if you do, if you have the time to check out all the pictures, you just might find a gravestone in the background with your name that is not in the index. It should be noted, however, that previous photos only included the > gravestones of those that showed the deceaased was born in > Ireland. That is a small percentage of the Irish buried at Calvary > whether born in Ireland or not. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message