I've "rescued" an old letter which was written by John HAVER Jr. of New York City, New York to Thomas C. AMORY Jr. in Boston, Massachusetts. The letter is dated Dec 21st 1842 and was postmarked December 24th 1842. Based on limited research I was able to locate the following information regarding these two men and their families: Thomas C. AMORY b. 16 Oct 1812 in Boston, MA and d. 20 Apr 1889 in Boston, MA, he was the son of Jonathan AMORY and Mehetable SULLIVAN Census records provide the following information: 1860 census of Boston, MA: Thomas C. AMORY, age 46, a Lawyer, born MA Rebecca AMORY, age 48, born MA Isabella AMORY, age 44, born MA + three servants 1860 census of New York City, NY: John A. HAVER, age 67, born NY Phebe I. HAVER, age 63, born NY Isaac DANIELS, age 106, born NY (don't know that I believe that age?) 1870 census of Boston, MA: Thomas C. AMORY, age 54, a Lawyer, born MA Rebecca A. AMORY, age 55, Keeping House, born MA Isabella L. AMORY, age 56, no occupation, born MA 1880 census of Boston, MA: Thomas C. AMORY, age 69, born MA, a Lawyer, parents born MA/ME Rebecca A. AMORY, sister, age 68, born MA, Housekeeping, parents born MA/ME Isabella L. AMORY, sister, age 62, born MA, at Home, parents born MA/ME + three servants I am hoping to locate someone from the family so that this wonderful old letter can be returned to their care. If you are a member of one of these families, or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley The contents of the letter are as follows: On outside of folded letter: December 24th 1842 Mr. Thomas C. AMORY Jr. Care of Misters LOHIER & WELCH, Court Street, Boston, Mass Inside letter: New York, December 21st 1842 Dear Tom: I recd the teeth brushes and am much obliged to you for sending them, the assortment gives satisfaction. I have carried your letter which accompanied them about in my pocket hoping to get an opportunity to answer it either at the office or at home till it is now nearly worn out. My not having answered it is (or should be) sufficient proof that I have not been able. This will reach you in time to convey to you my best wishes for a happy return of the Christmas Holidays and the compliments of the season. My brother has sailed from Portsmouth at last although he spent rather more than a week there enjoying himself much if I may judge from a few lines I received from him while there. He was quite pleased with Miss RICHARDS with whom he had a delightful sleigh ride in a single horse sleigh. Langdon mentioned his intrusion upon you at an unseasonable hour and desired me to make any apology which might be necessary to you. You request me to make the requisite apology when you may consider the affair amicably settled and all proper excuses made and received. You ask who is Mr. John BARD? Miss Elizabeth DEMINDT? Mr. Andrew J. DOWNING? Mr. John BARD is a very stylish and showily dressed young man; very conspicuous is his appearance who is pronounced by more who have known him as a fool. Miss DEMINDT was a schoolmate of my sisters some few years since, and is occasionally seen at our church. I have only learned this by inquiries as I know nothing of the young lady personally not even know her by sight. Mr. DOWNING I never heard of and my inquiries have been unsuccessful. There is Mr. DOWNING the author of Landscape Gardening who lives up the North River and has a very handsome place. He may have a son rejoicing in the name of Andrew J. There is also Mr. DOWNING a respectable gentleman of color who is celebrated for this pickled oysters, he may have had a son. There are also Mr. DOWNING the Whitewasher and the beatable Jack DOWNING I am ignorant of the various ramifications of these families. Why do you wish to know? I am obliged to you for informing me of the death of Mr. BLOWERS. I did not see it in any paper. Perhaps because I never see any papers but the two taken at Fathers Store, The Herald taken at our office and the Portsmouth Journal which is sent weekly by Grandfather. Mr. GREEN I believe succeeds Mr. BLOWERS. Will you enlighten me on the subject of snow geese I confess I never heard of them and on telling one of my sporting acquaintances of the singular fact that two were killed the Newburyport I was answered by the question what the devil are snow geese? Were they the first ever killed in your state? Where do they inhabit? Have the Harvard Natl Hist. Soc been informed of the circumstance. When did Julia KING die? Where? What are the parties alas of her decease? Was George PARKS her physician? How did the Ball roll off at Parks? Who of my acquaintances were there? I suppose that thee was no scarcity of beaus probably some arrows shot. Did the belles make much noise? The parties are very plenty here, two or there every night I go to none however. My time is all occupied and I accomplish nothing. What are the particulars of Grafts affairs due concur or du corps? Were you at Charlotte PHIPPS Wedding? How did she appear and how does she now look? Any worse for the etc. She was if I remember rightly rather small but looked as though she might do a thing or two. Has she expressed any opinion of the advantages or delights of the wedded state? Has she married at her Mothers? If so what jokes must have been cracked at her expense and at Walttalls neat day, their appearance anticipated. You have never given me any particulars of Ornes death; not mentioned what notice the class took of it. I should like to know about it. Has Bill ROLLINS of Boston ever given a class supper? I do not remember having heard of it. If he ever gave any I should like to know about it. The only topic of conversation here is the sad story of the meeting on board the Somers. There seems to be only on opinion here, and that of approval. You will of course think the opposite. But I am glad that agreed and if you chose to call it do cruel course was pursued. An officer commanding a ship must be vested with supreme authority. If Lieutenant MCKENSIE is not sustained in the course he has pursued, there will be an end to all discipline and subordination in the Navy. The fact that the number of mutineers was double that of the disaffected is sufficient proof to my mind that a severe course was the only one which could be pursued. I am impatient to hear all the facts of the case from head quarters and if they do not substantiate more already promulgated I am open to conviction and shall most probably change my view of the case. I can easily imagine Mrs. DJANTVILLE the belle of Boston. Her beauty and fascinating manners apart from the interesting story of her wrongs enlist the public on her side. I saw her once in New York and her image is as present to my minds eye as her person could be to my bodily eye. How comes on the law? What have you been doing lately in the Legal Line? Any practice? I am as busy as I can be at the office from Nine am till 3 pm and Tuesday and Friday evenings for examination. The days are so short now I can do nothing before I go to the office in the morning. We walk to the office 2 miles consumes ¾ of an hour, I have marketing to do in the morning. I do not get back from the office till nearly 4 PM and by the time dinner is finished it is dark. I have then nothing but a long evening in which to read, write, and study deducting Sunday evenings when I am at church and Tuesday and Friday when at the office and the surplus of my time is very small. I am very glad to hear that your brother had quite recovered from his accident. My best respects to your Father & Mother. My compliments to your Sister and remember me to your brothers. I was sorry not to see your sister when she passed through NY City. You will soon have a new Episcopal Priest among you. Your Bishop I believe he is to be. You must write me how you like him, he is a great favorite here and it seems unfair not now just as the people have built him a new church and a new parsonage he should leave them. I leave off as I began wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Yours Truly, John HAVER Jr.
As a coincidence, two people have contributed databases for some Irish burials at Calvary Cemetery in Queens NY. The first is a list of those brave men of the Irish Brigade. You can find it at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyqueen2/cemeteries/IrishBrigade2.htm If you know some men who are not on the list, please contact the contributor. His name is on the webpage. The second database was contributed by Friends of Abandoned Cemeteries of Staten Island. This database contains the records of 3 of the 45 books from the Dempsey Funeral Home for burials at Calvary Cemetery. It will be added to regularly until we get the 45 books online. If you want a copy of a record, there is an email form on the webpage. You can find this database at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/DempseyRecords.htm -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com
Thanks for the image- could be the one. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mona everett" <mona_sydd_yma@sbcglobal.net> To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] McManus-Malloy in 1880 census > Is this them? > > Mona > Catharine MCMANUS Household Female > --------------------------------- > Other Information: Birth Year <1852> > Birthplace IRE Age 28 Occupation Keeping House > Marital Status M <Married> Race W <White> Head of > Household John MCMANUS Relation Wife Father's > Birthplace IRE Mother's Birthplace IRE > --------------------------------- > Source Information: Census Place Coxsackie, Greene, New > York Family History Library Film 1254836 NA Film > Number T9-0836 Page Number 167B > > John McManus <jmcman@millinocket.lib.me.us> wrote: > I'm looking for John L. MCMANUS (my ggf) in the 1880 census. I'm guessing > he married my ggm Catherine MALLOY by the time of that census. My > supposition is based on the fact that Catherine arrived in the US in 1872 > according to the 1900 census, and her son, another John L. MCMANUS, was > born in 1881. Catherine is listed as head of household (widow) at 305 E. > 101st St. in the 1900 census. > > In the 1900 census she is listed as having had 11 children, 7 were still > living at the time of the census, but only 3 appear as living with her- > the oldest ones as far as I know, including John L. > > Can anyone obtain the census image for them? > > John L. McManus > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Mona, Could very well be. Is there any more info on them or would be available on the FHL site? John ----- Original Message ----- From: "mona everett" <mona_sydd_yma@sbcglobal.net> To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] McManus-Malloy in 1880 census > Is this them? > > Mona > Catharine MCMANUS Household Female > --------------------------------- > Other Information: Birth Year <1852> > Birthplace IRE Age 28 Occupation Keeping House > Marital Status M <Married> Race W <White> Head of > Household John MCMANUS Relation Wife Father's > Birthplace IRE Mother's Birthplace IRE > --------------------------------- > Source Information: Census Place Coxsackie, Greene, New > York Family History Library Film 1254836 NA Film > Number T9-0836 Page Number 167B > > John McManus <jmcman@millinocket.lib.me.us> wrote: > I'm looking for John L. MCMANUS (my ggf) in the 1880 census. I'm guessing > he married my ggm Catherine MALLOY by the time of that census. My > supposition is based on the fact that Catherine arrived in the US in 1872 > according to the 1900 census, and her son, another John L. MCMANUS, was > born in 1881. Catherine is listed as head of household (widow) at 305 E. > 101st St. in the 1900 census. > > In the 1900 census she is listed as having had 11 children, 7 were still > living at the time of the census, but only 3 appear as living with her- > the oldest ones as far as I know, including John L. > > Can anyone obtain the census image for them? > > John L. McManus > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I'm looking for John L. MCMANUS (my ggf) in the 1880 census. I'm guessing he married my ggm Catherine MALLOY by the time of that census. My supposition is based on the fact that Catherine arrived in the US in 1872 according to the 1900 census, and her son, another John L. MCMANUS, was born in 1881. Catherine is listed as head of household (widow) at 305 E. 101st St. in the 1900 census. In the 1900 census she is listed as having had 11 children, 7 were still living at the time of the census, but only 3 appear as living with her- the oldest ones as far as I know, including John L. Can anyone obtain the census image for them? John L. McManus
Probably not, as they are in the 1870 census at the same place with no children. So if she didn't come over until 1872, it wouldn't be them. Sorry. Mona John McManus <jmcman@millinocket.lib.me.us> wrote: Mona, Could very well be. Is there any more info on them or would be available on the FHL site? John ----- Original Message ----- From: "mona everett" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] McManus-Malloy in 1880 census > Is this them? > > Mona > Catharine MCMANUS Household Female > --------------------------------- > Other Information: Birth Year <1852> > Birthplace IRE Age 28 Occupation Keeping House > Marital Status M Race W Head of > Household John MCMANUS Relation Wife Father's > Birthplace IRE Mother's Birthplace IRE > --------------------------------- > Source Information: Census Place Coxsackie, Greene, New > York Family History Library Film 1254836 NA Film > Number T9-0836 Page Number 167B > > John McManus wrote: > I'm looking for John L. MCMANUS (my ggf) in the 1880 census. I'm guessing > he married my ggm Catherine MALLOY by the time of that census. My > supposition is based on the fact that Catherine arrived in the US in 1872 > according to the 1900 census, and her son, another John L. MCMANUS, was > born in 1881. Catherine is listed as head of household (widow) at 305 E. > 101st St. in the 1900 census. > > In the 1900 census she is listed as having had 11 children, 7 were still > living at the time of the census, but only 3 appear as living with her- > the oldest ones as far as I know, including John L. > > Can anyone obtain the census image for them? > > John L. McManus > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Is this them? Mona Catharine MCMANUS Household Female --------------------------------- Other Information: Birth Year <1852> Birthplace IRE Age 28 Occupation Keeping House Marital Status M <Married> Race W <White> Head of Household John MCMANUS Relation Wife Father's Birthplace IRE Mother's Birthplace IRE --------------------------------- Source Information: Census Place Coxsackie, Greene, New York Family History Library Film 1254836 NA Film Number T9-0836 Page Number 167B John McManus <jmcman@millinocket.lib.me.us> wrote: I'm looking for John L. MCMANUS (my ggf) in the 1880 census. I'm guessing he married my ggm Catherine MALLOY by the time of that census. My supposition is based on the fact that Catherine arrived in the US in 1872 according to the 1900 census, and her son, another John L. MCMANUS, was born in 1881. Catherine is listed as head of household (widow) at 305 E. 101st St. in the 1900 census. In the 1900 census she is listed as having had 11 children, 7 were still living at the time of the census, but only 3 appear as living with her- the oldest ones as far as I know, including John L. Can anyone obtain the census image for them? John L. McManus Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi John- Do you have an age and birthplace for John McManus? thanks! Kate John McManus <jmcman@millinocket.lib.me.us> wrote: I'm looking for John L. MCMANUS (my ggf) in the 1880 census. I'm guessing he married my ggm Catherine MALLOY by the time of that census. My supposition is based on the fact that Catherine arrived in the US in 1872 according to the 1900 census, and her son, another John L. MCMANUS, was born in 1881. Catherine is listed as head of household (widow) at 305 E. 101st St. in the 1900 census. In the 1900 census she is listed as having had 11 children, 7 were still living at the time of the census, but only 3 appear as living with her- the oldest ones as far as I know, including John L. Can anyone obtain the census image for them? John L. McManus Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
No, they're not, but Manhattan divorces are on microfilm that you can order through an LDS Family History Center. Here's the listing from the FHL Catalog. ============================================== Index to matrimonial actions, 1784-1910 Microfilm of original records in the New York County Courthouse. Library does not have records listed in index. Contains index to divorces, annulments, and separations. Index, A-H 1784-1910 FHL US/CAN Film 1017465 Index, I-P 1784-1910 FHL US/CAN Film 1017466 Index, Q-Z 1784-1910 FHL US/CAN Film 1017467 ============================================== Joy Joy Rich Chapter Representative, New York Metro Chapter Association of Professional Genealogists http://www.apgen.org http://www.apgen.org/chapters/newyork/index.html Bill Allen <misterbill@pdq.net> wrote: Are Manhattan (Brooklyn) divorce indexes for the 1880s online or in book form? William R. and Josephine (Cecilia R. J. Morton) TALLEY were in Brooklyn in the 1880 U.S. census. They were divorced shortly after that. But I don't know when. Bill Allen --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
Are Manhattan (Brooklyn) divorce indexes for the 1880s online or in book form? William R. and Josephine (Cecilia R. J. Morton) TALLEY were in Brooklyn in the 1880 U.S. census. They were divorced shortly after that. But I don't know when. Bill Allen <misterbill@pdq.net>
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Hi Kate, yes I have tried Helen's name in Google and found some information there but nothing for Harry Bolam - (I think its supposed to be Harry not Henry!). Is ItalianGen part of rootsweb? Angela In a message dated 6/9/2007 8:46:56 AM Central Daylight Time, chrismomxyz@yahoo.com writes: Hi Angela- Have you tried ItalianGen? Its a website that has many good databases for New York. Do you know if Harry was British or American? Also, try putting Helen's name in the search on Google Books- Hope this helps! Kate ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
I am seeking information on how I can obtain a death certificate/record for Henry Bolam who died in New York 23 March 1883. I believe he was married to my relative who was an actress named Helen Barry (given name Elizabeth Short, then she married Alexander Rolls who died). So I do not know what name she was living under - Barry, Short or Rolls? Helen Barry performed in plays in New York and London. I am also interested if anyone can tell me where I may access music/stage or "who's who in Theatre" sort of information for this time frame. Any help is greatly appreciated. Angela ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
ItalianGen is its own site. :) just google Italiangen--- Kate --- Gilliedog@aol.com wrote: > > > Hi Kate, yes I have tried Helen's name in Google and > found some information > there but nothing for Harry Bolam - (I think its > supposed to be Harry not > Henry!). > > Is ItalianGen part of rootsweb? > > Angela > > In a message dated 6/9/2007 8:46:56 AM Central > Daylight Time, > chrismomxyz@yahoo.com writes: > > Hi Angela- > > Have you tried ItalianGen? > Its a website that has many good databases for New > York. Do you know if Harry was British or American? > > Also, try putting Helen's name in the search on > Google > Books- > > Hope this helps! > Kate > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's > free at http://www.aol.com. > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
Hi Angela- Have you tried ItalianGen? Its a website that has many good databases for New York. Do you know if Harry was British or American? Also, try putting Helen's name in the search on Google Books- Hope this helps! Kate --- Gilliedog@aol.com wrote: > I am seeking information on how I can obtain a death > certificate/record for > Henry Bolam who died in New York 23 March 1883. I > believe he was married to > my relative who was an actress named Helen Barry > (given name Elizabeth Short, > then she married Alexander Rolls who died). So I > do not know what name she > was living under - Barry, Short or Rolls? > > Helen Barry performed in plays in New York and > London. I am also interested > if anyone can tell me where I may access music/stage > or "who's who in > Theatre" sort of information for this time frame. > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > Angela > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's > free at http://www.aol.com. > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
Are divorce indexes for the 1880s online? I'm not in NYCity or NY state. I'm in TX. In the 1880 U.S. census, William R and Josephine TALLEY (and family) were in Brooklyn. William R. TALLEY was also in The Brooklyn, New York General & Business Directory for 1880-81. William R. and Josephine divorced. Josephine remarried in Canada before the divorce in NY was final. Josephine is buried in Canada. But I have no idea when they divorced or what happen to William R. Bill Allen <misterbill@pdq.net>
The line must be going around the block for those who want copies of their divorce records and who got divorced between 1906 and ca 1950. "Matrimonial records less than 100 years old may only be viewed by the parties or their attorneys. The indexes are open to the public." ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Thanks Mark! That gives me some ideas for sure. I'll even be in Brooklyn for one day next week. Maybe I'll have time to drop in at the Kings Cty clerk's office to have a look at that index. If not, a search request will be on my list for after that trip. Jeanne Torre (Los Gatos CA) ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Lomax To: Karen Pritchett Cc: J Torre ; nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com ; NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 8:53 PM Subject: Divorce Records Regarding access to New York City divorce indexes (all boroughs), Genealogical Resources in New York, published by the Jewish Genealogical Society, says: "Matrimonial records less than 100 years old may only be viewed by the parties or their attorneys. The indexes are open to the public." I have no experience with the Kings County clerk's office, but I did request an index search from the New York County clerk's office. The cost was $5 for each two-year period. Search requests must be in writing, and the fee must be paid in advance; they do not accept personal checks or credit cards. A request for a search of the New York County divorce index is sent to the Mail Unit, New York County Clerk, 60 Centre St., New York 10007. The address of the Kings County clerk's office is 360 Adams St., Brooklyn 11201. I do not know which unit in the Kings County clerk's office would handle a divorce index search. Bear in mind that the divorce index contains only the parties' names, the date of filing, and the case number. Mark Lomax Pasadena, CA Karen Pritchett wrote: > Mark - was this possible via email...snail mail...telephone? I'd be happy > to pay for the search, just don't know who to ask. > > Karen > > -----Original Message----- > From: nybrooklyn-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nybrooklyn-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Mark Lomax > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 3:34 PM > To: J Torre > Cc: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BKLYN] Divorce Records - Sims > > > The divorce indexes -- which show only the parties' names, the date of > filing, and the case number -- are not sealed. I paid the New York County > clerk's office to do an index search for a divorce from 1934-42. While the > record I was seeking was not found, the clerk's office had no problem > conducting the search, which cost me (I think) $20. > > Mark Lomax > Pasadena, CA > > On 6/6/07, J Torre <jtorre@prodigy.net> wrote: > >> A suggestion to help bracket the divorce date might be to get copies of >> the other two marriages, especially Clarence W in 1911 to see if either >> > (or > >> both?) are the same Clarence who married Fannie, based on the groom's >> parents, his age/place of birth, whether it says 2nd marriage for him, >> etc. I know I've seen some NYC marriage records for 2nd marriages and I >> think they did specify whether widowed or divorced -- at least in some >> years. >> >> I'm interested in your question too, although the divorce I'd like to date >> was in the 1930s so not even close to being "opened". For those that have >> passed the 100 year mark, is there an index somewhere? >> >> J Torre >> ---------------Original Message-------------------- >> Message: 5 >> >> Sims Clarence Jun 23 1927 Manhattan 19940 bride >> Sims Clarence Feb 3 1905 Kings 923 bride >> Sims Clarence W Jan 4 1911 Manhattan 1303 bride >> ___________________________________ >> >> The Bklyn Info Pages Website: >> www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ >> >> List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com >> >> Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com >> ___________________________________ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > ___________________________________ > > The Bklyn Info Pages Website: > www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ > > List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com > > Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > ___________________________________ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >
Regarding access to New York City divorce indexes (all boroughs), Genealogical Resources in New York, published by the Jewish Genealogical Society, says: "Matrimonial records less than 100 years old may only be viewed by the parties or their attorneys. The indexes are open to the public." I have no experience with the Kings County clerk's office, but I did request an index search from the New York County clerk's office. The cost was $5 for each two-year period. Search requests must be in writing, and the fee must be paid in advance; they do not accept personal checks or credit cards. A request for a search of the New York County divorce index is sent to the Mail Unit, New York County Clerk, 60 Centre St., New York 10007. The address of the Kings County clerk's office is 360 Adams St., Brooklyn 11201. I do not know which unit in the Kings County clerk's office would handle a divorce index search. Bear in mind that the divorce index contains only the parties' names, the date of filing, and the case number. Mark Lomax Pasadena, CA Karen Pritchett wrote: > Mark - was this possible via email...snail mail...telephone? I'd be happy > to pay for the search, just don't know who to ask. > > Karen > > -----Original Message----- > From: nybrooklyn-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nybrooklyn-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Mark Lomax > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 3:34 PM > To: J Torre > Cc: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BKLYN] Divorce Records - Sims > > > The divorce indexes -- which show only the parties' names, the date of > filing, and the case number -- are not sealed. I paid the New York County > clerk's office to do an index search for a divorce from 1934-42. While the > record I was seeking was not found, the clerk's office had no problem > conducting the search, which cost me (I think) $20. > > Mark Lomax > Pasadena, CA > > On 6/6/07, J Torre <jtorre@prodigy.net> wrote: > >> A suggestion to help bracket the divorce date might be to get copies of >> the other two marriages, especially Clarence W in 1911 to see if either >> > (or > >> both?) are the same Clarence who married Fannie, based on the groom's >> parents, his age/place of birth, whether it says 2nd marriage for him, >> etc. I know I've seen some NYC marriage records for 2nd marriages and I >> think they did specify whether widowed or divorced -- at least in some >> years. >> >> I'm interested in your question too, although the divorce I'd like to date >> was in the 1930s so not even close to being "opened". For those that have >> passed the 100 year mark, is there an index somewhere? >> >> J Torre >> ---------------Original Message-------------------- >> Message: 5 >> >> Sims Clarence Jun 23 1927 Manhattan 19940 bride >> Sims Clarence Feb 3 1905 Kings 923 bride >> Sims Clarence W Jan 4 1911 Manhattan 1303 bride >> ___________________________________ >> >> The Bklyn Info Pages Website: >> www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ >> >> List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com >> >> Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com >> ___________________________________ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > ___________________________________ > > The Bklyn Info Pages Website: > www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ > > List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com > > Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > ___________________________________ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >
Kate thank you for those great emails. I appreciate your help. take care, Angela Hi- I saw on the Google News Archives, that Harry Bolam did die in New York, of pneumonia, according to the part of the obituary I could see. It appears she was in the States to act in 1895, according to an article in a Washington State paper of February 23, 1895. It was also in the Philadelphia Inquirer. Kate ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.