Beautiful tribute. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 5, 2016, at 3:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Australian Newspaper Archive in Jeopardy ([email protected]) > 2. Jewish Gen: Elie Wiesel ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 14:12:44 -0400 > From: [email protected] > Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Australian Newspaper Archive in Jeopardy > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > The free Australian newspaper archive, Trove, is in jeopardy of folding due to financial stress. > > > http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/ > > > > So, if you're searching for ancestors down-under, the clock is ticking on this wonderful source. > > > Barb > > [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 20:35:39 -0400 > From: [email protected] > Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Jewish Gen: Elie Wiesel > To: [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last night, NYC's World Trade Center was aglow with Israel's blue and white lights to honor the life > > > > > > > > of international humanitarian Elie Wiesel. Mr. Wiesel, age 87, passed away in New York City > on Saturday and was reportedly laid to rest at Sharon Gardens Cemetery in Valhalla, NY. > A native of Romania, he is survived by his wife, Marion Erster Rose Wiesel, and son, and > father's namesake, Shlomo Elisha Weisel. > > Some few days before he died, Elie Wiesel dreamt that he was back in his little Romanian hometown, > walking with his parents. Such dreams are not so unusual when one is slowly dying. > > Mr. Wiesel came to the American literary forefront in 1960 with the English translation of his > Holocaust memoir "Night," excerpted here. > > ?Never shall I forget that night, the first night in camp, which has turned my life into one long night, > seven times cursed and seven times sealed,? Mr. Wiesel wrote. ?Never shall I forget that smoke. > Never shall I forget the little faces of the children, whose bodies I saw turned into wreaths of smoke > beneath a silent blue sky. Never shall I forget those flames which consumed my faith forever. Never > shall I forget the nocturnal silence which deprived me, for all eternity, of the desire to live. Never shall > I forget those moments which murdered my God and my soul and turned my dreams to dust. Never > shall I forget these things, even if I am condemned to live as long as God himself. Never.? > > Not only did "Night" startle the human conscience. It freed other Holocaust survivors to tell their truths and unify > in perennial remembrance of those who died during the terror of WW2's German atrocities. It also became required > reading in many Metro NYC high schools. Students were struck by its stark immediacy. > > > Elie Wiesel won the Nobel Peace Prize, wrote over sixty books, and gleaned international respect for decades. > Because his personae was so magnanimous, I expected him to be different than he was. > > When I was an undergrad, the Literature Chair at SUNY Purchase, Dr. Theodore Gross, invited Mr. Wiesel to speak > there. Afterwards, just five literature majors were invited to meet with Mr. Wiesel for coffee. I expected someone > huge in stature, and perhaps loud and grandiose. Rather, he was soft spoken, pensive, deliberate in his speech. > His methodical way of speaking drew me in to listen. At the time, I wondered if this was how people felt when they > met Ghandi, awestruck by his brilliant subtlety. > > > Our world is quieter since Saturday. I'd like to say it's a more peaceful world than once upon a time. However, > it was enriched by Elie Wiesel's brilliant light that shone through, that shines through. > > May God bless and cherish his most beloved son, Elie Wiesel. > > > > > Barb > > [email protected] > > @BAMS, 7/4/2016 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NYNEWYOR list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the NYNEWYOR mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NYNEWYOR Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89 > ****************************************

Last night, NYC's World Trade Center was aglow with Israel's blue and white lights to honor the life of international humanitarian Elie Wiesel. Mr. Wiesel, age 87, passed away in New York City on Saturday and was reportedly laid to rest at Sharon Gardens Cemetery in Valhalla, NY. A native of Romania, he is survived by his wife, Marion Erster Rose Wiesel, and son, and father's namesake, Shlomo Elisha Weisel. Some few days before he died, Elie Wiesel dreamt that he was back in his little Romanian hometown, walking with his parents. Such dreams are not so unusual when one is slowly dying. Mr. Wiesel came to the American literary forefront in 1960 with the English translation of his Holocaust memoir "Night," excerpted here. “Never shall I forget that night, the first night in camp, which has turned my life into one long night, seven times cursed and seven times sealed,” Mr. Wiesel wrote. “Never shall I forget that smoke. Never shall I forget the little faces of the children, whose bodies I saw turned into wreaths of smoke beneath a silent blue sky. Never shall I forget those flames which consumed my faith forever. Never shall I forget the nocturnal silence which deprived me, for all eternity, of the desire to live. Never shall I forget those moments which murdered my God and my soul and turned my dreams to dust. Never shall I forget these things, even if I am condemned to live as long as God himself. Never.” Not only did "Night" startle the human conscience. It freed other Holocaust survivors to tell their truths and unify in perennial remembrance of those who died during the terror of WW2's German atrocities. It also became required reading in many Metro NYC high schools. Students were struck by its stark immediacy. Elie Wiesel won the Nobel Peace Prize, wrote over sixty books, and gleaned international respect for decades. Because his personae was so magnanimous, I expected him to be different than he was. When I was an undergrad, the Literature Chair at SUNY Purchase, Dr. Theodore Gross, invited Mr. Wiesel to speak there. Afterwards, just five literature majors were invited to meet with Mr. Wiesel for coffee. I expected someone huge in stature, and perhaps loud and grandiose. Rather, he was soft spoken, pensive, deliberate in his speech. His methodical way of speaking drew me in to listen. At the time, I wondered if this was how people felt when they met Ghandi, awestruck by his brilliant subtlety. Our world is quieter since Saturday. I'd like to say it's a more peaceful world than once upon a time. However, it was enriched by Elie Wiesel's brilliant light that shone through, that shines through. May God bless and cherish his most beloved son, Elie Wiesel. Barb [email protected] @BAMS, 7/4/2016

The free Australian newspaper archive, Trove, is in jeopardy of folding due to financial stress. http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/ So, if you're searching for ancestors down-under, the clock is ticking on this wonderful source. Barb [email protected]

Fold3.com offers free searching for Revolutionary War Records>>> Revolutionary War Pensions Revolutionary War Service Records Revolutionary War Rolls Final Payment Vouchers Index for Military Pensions, 1818–1864 July 1 -15th Barb [email protected]

"Reclaim the Records"[RtR] (https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/) should really be called "Release OUR Records" as our ancestral NYers originally paid for them. It's like they've been held hostage! For what? Go down Moses...Let our records go! Technically, in NY State AND City [Yonkers* is no exception], Marriages and Deaths more than 50 years, and Births more than 75 years, are classified as "Historical." This means that even non-direct-line folks can order them, just follow the Ps & Qs when ordering: form, photo ID, and buck$$$. NYC DOH, scores #1 on my most offensive NYC repository, and needs constant reminders about historical status. Next time, red-magic-marker your requests "H I S T O R I C A L." Works for me every time. Oh, BTW If you're coming to town, skip DOH. The lines are so chronically long that you could get TKTS to "Hamilton" faster. Ahhh I digress...back to RtR...Since my focus is Metro NYC, I'm jiggin' that NYC Births 1910 -1915 are in the wings. They are, after all, OVER 100 years old and hunkered down at NYC DOH (Worth Street), whose Comish, FARLEY, refused to transfer them to NYC Muni Archives. Why? He said "homeland security" since Muslims digested the World Trade Center. Yup. "Identity-theft prevention." Oh yeah, I can just seem some burka-clad illegal face-timing as my blue-eyed Irish grandmother who died in 1953. Pullllleeeze! What it's really about? An interdepartmental power play. It's new YAWK folks. Nothin's easy. Please peruse Reclaim the Records' To Do List amidst the rockets red glare. It ain't just NYC. https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/to-do/ *Yonkers long since wore out their handle of "City of Gracious Living." They score #1 in my most colvouted town t get records from Barb [email protected]

You are very welcome, Marie. I don't know when 1937+ Marriage Licenses Index will be accessible online. For questions such as yours, to learn about other "Reclaim the Records" projects, and take their online survey, go here>>> (https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/) I'm doing a RUN for LICENSES next week for years 1908 -1930. Just email me offlist if interested. Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: bsktbtque Thank you for these easy to follow instructions. Do you know how soon the 1937+ marriages will be posted? Marie ------------------------------------------------ If you right click on the image, you can save the image to your computer Gail ------------------------------------------------ (This is the continuation of: "NEWish: NYC Marriages LICENSES 1908-1951, Pt. 1") THE LINK....TA DAAAA>>>>>>https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex NOW, make notes: YEAR, COUNTY, VOLUME #, LICENSE #, DATE, NAME

(This is the continuation of: "NEWish: NYC Marriages LICENSES 1908-1951, Pt. 1") These NYC Marriage License Indexes are fantastic, but...tricky to navigate. That's why I've composed these basics, These two emails are the culmination of about 4 hours of work. If you know the marriage date, search from it backwards 3 months. If you are searching without a date, check your surname in every month. THE LINK....TA DAAAA>>>>>>https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex THE BASICS: Print this page? l) Brides and Grooms are intermingled. Grooms on the left of page, brides on the right. EX: If you were searching a HARING groom and a HANNIGAN bride, both will appear on the HA- page. 2) After you proceed from YEAR to COUNTY to 1st ALPHABETICAL LETTER of SURNAME... go the first page where that letter begins. This is where it gets tricky! The listings are NOT fully chronological. Using the HARING= HANNIGAN example...Listings are not sequestial, but will appear as HA- to HZ- for January, then HA- to HZ- for February, etc While scrolling, notice the MONTH shown on the left of image. Yes, you got it! You may have to search through 12 alphabetized sections in one calendar year. Each surname is NOYt sequentially listed. Remember, HA- HB- HB- for each month or quarter. PANNING FOR GOLD: l) Go into>>> https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex 2) Click on the YEAR you want from list on the right.. 3) A group of COUNTIES will surface; click on the county you want. 4) Scroll down your MOUSE about 10 times. 5) Increase IMAGE SIZE by clicking on magnifying glass + image on lower right.. WARNING: If you increase later, the page may jump around. 6) Move SLIDER BAR to the right, until you reach the ALPH LETTER you need. 7) Go to the FIRST page of that alphabetical letter. 8) As you scan through images, make sure to view every month note on the left. 9) Search for both the bride and groom for each year. 10) VOILA!!!...You found both the bride and groom! You just performed a "cross referencing." NOW, make notes: YEAR, COUNTY, VOLUME #, LICENSE #, DATE, NAME PLEASE do not email me with questions until you understand parts 1 and 2. Barb [email protected] @BAMS, 6-30-2016= Do not forward or repost w/o my consent.

This is the best news for Metro NYC genealogists! Promise! The activist group called "Reclaim the Records" (https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/) filed FOIAs and gained online access to the Index to NYC Marriage Licenses. Wooo wooo! BACKSTORY: From 1908 to 1951 New York City required couples to apply for PRE-marriage ceremony LICENSES, in person at the marriage bureau. Think Norman Rockwell painting> http://www.wikiart.org/en/norman-rockwell/marriage-license-1935 *Licenses were valid for 3 months.* AFTER the marriage ceremony, the minister completed page 3 of the license application, then return it to the issuing NYC county clerk by the 10th of the next month. EXCEPTION: Some marriage ceremonies occurred, but the minister did not return his portion of the documentation. YEARS (All years are not accessible yet) : 1908-1951: Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, Richmond 1914-1951: Bronx (prior to 1914, search Manhattan)..........EXCEPTION *IMPT NOTE: Brides and Grooms are intermingled. Grooms on the left of page, Brides on the right.

This is the best news for Metro NYC genealogists! Promise! The activist group called "Reclaim the Records" (https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/) filed FOIAs and gained online access to the Index to NYC Marriage Licenses. Wooo wooo!   BACKSTORY: From 1908 to 1951 New York City required couples to apply for PRE-marriage ceremony LICENSES, in person at the marriage bureau. Think Norman Rockwell painting>>> http://www.wikiart.org/en/norman-rockwell/marriage-license-1935 *Licenses were valid for 3 months.* AFTER the marriage ceremony, the minister completed page 3 of the license application, then returned it to the *issuing NYC county* clerk by the 10th of the next month.  EXCEPTION: Some marriage ceremonies occurred, but the minister did not return documentation confirming the marriage occurred.     YEARS (All years are not accessible yet) : 1908-1951: Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, Richmond 1914-1951: Bronx (prior to 1914, search Manhattan)..........EXCEPTION (To be continued as: "USING: NYC Marriages LICENSES 1908-1951, Pt. 2") Barb [email protected] @BAMS, 6-30-2016= Do not forward or repost w/o my consent.

Roisin Lafferty is having trouble posting onlist and asked me to post this email for him. Thans all, Barb -----Original Message----- From: Roisin Lafferty <[email protected]> To: mizscarlettny <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jun 29, 2016 12:43 pm Subject: John F Christy hi Barb, thanks very much yes the details( age and parents names) are correct, I would be very happy if one of the people you found listed was my John f Christy but I honestly dont know. John christy gave his address for the draft card at 341 West Street in 1918 and the address for the declaration of intent is 25 South Street in 1921. That was some sort of sailor's hostel or headquarters. I mailed them to see if they kept records, they say they moved a few blocks away but didnt keep records but it is still in existence... it seems to have been some sort of religious place, Christy said he was single on his citizenship application papers signed July 1921 we have nothing further until 1926 when he wrote to my father giving his address at a mail collection service at no 1 Broadway, the headquarters of several shipping companies and now the head office of City Bank. Would the city directories throw any light on his whereabouts do you think? Do you think if he married in the intervening years he would have had a permanent address by 1926. My grandfather and he were co owners of a small farm in Ireland where Christy was born and my family still owned this place until about 10 years ago. his father Peter Christy died 1906 at 83 Elm Street, his sister Mary died early 1890s age 4 years and both are buried in St Marys Pawtucket. but john is not listed in the grave, nor is he in his aunts Catherine McBurneys grave in the same cemetery. I think that even if he fell on hard times the Irish community would have joined together to bury him with his family. Other than that if he were a sailor he may have been lost at sea or maybe died in an unknown port. maybe he did something awful and landed in prison... I will keep checking as we never know what new sources come online. Thanks for your help...its very much appreciated. Regards Roisin

This, from Bronx County 1916 Marriage License: Page 1 Heading: "State of New York Affidavit for License to Marry." [Dated 19 Sept 1916, signed by Bride & Groom and Bronx Clerk] Page 2 Heading: "New York State Department of Health, Bureau of Vital Statistics, Certificate and Record of Marriage" [Dated 19 Sept 1916, signed by Bride, Groom and Bronx City County Clerk] Page 3 Heading: "To Clergymen and Magistrates" [Dated 19 Sept 1916; signed by Bride, Groom and Priest] Completed by Priest Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Bob Raynor <[email protected]> I haven't looked at the site; but in my research the Affidavit is for applying for a marriage license and there is also either on the same page the marriage information or there is a separate marriage license. Bob From: mizscarlettny via <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 1:28 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYQUEENS] NYC Marriage License Hi Jim, I was expecting this question since the moment that I pushed "send" as I have the same question. I do not know. Perhaps another reader knows? Yes, the header of NYC Marriage Licenses 1908-1951 says "State of New York Affidavit for License to Marry." Yes, we've learned that NYC and NYS records are kept separately. Yes, Westchester County NY has an Index to Marriage Licenses online 1908-1935. http://archives.westchestergov.com/browse-all-online-indexes-main/marriages-index Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: James Castellan <[email protected]> Dear Barb, From your post, I noticed: "The Marriage License header title says "State of New York Affidavit for License to Marry." but your header states: "NYC Marriage Procedure 1908 - 1951". Was a marriage license only required for NYC marriages during the 1908-1951 period or was this requirement state-wide? Thanks. Jim

Hi Jim, I was expecting this question since the moment that I pushed "send" as I have the same question. I do not know. Perhaps another reader knows? Yes, the header of NYC Marriage Licenses 1908-1951 says "State of New York Affidavit for License to Marry." Yes, we've learned that NYC and NYS records are kept separately. Yes, Westchester County NY has an Index to Marriage Licenses online 1908-1935. http://archives.westchestergov.com/browse-all-online-indexes-main/marriages-index Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: James Castellan <[email protected]> Dear Barb, From your post, I noticed: "The Marriage License header title says "State of New York Affidavit for License to Marry." but your header states: "NYC Marriage Procedure 1908 - 1951". Was a marriage license only required for NYC marriages during the 1908-1951 period or was this requirement state-wide? Thanks. Jim

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UGHHH NOT all years for all 5 counties have been uploaded online yet. NYC Marriage Licenses. Search by year, then county. >>> https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex/&tab=collection Please cut out email junk at the bottom before replying. Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Lauri Russell via < [email protected] I only see up to 1935-36. I'm interested in later years, anyone else having this issue? >

All years for all 5 counties have not been uploaded yet. Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Lauri Russell via <[email protected]> To: nynewyor <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Jun 28, 2016 1:56 pm Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] NYNEWYOR Digest, Vol 11, Issue 83 I only see up to 1935-36. I'm interested in later years, anyone else having this issue? On Jun 28, 2016 3:13 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. NYC NMarriage Licenses 1908 - 1951 ([email protected]) > 2. PBS TV NOW: 2 "VINTAGE" SHOWS ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 11:31:03 -0400 > From: [email protected] > Subject: [NYNEWYOR] NYC NMarriage Licenses 1908 - 1951 > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Cc: [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > Access to Marriage LICNESE Index, not Marriage CERTIFICATES, 1908-1951. > > > > This McKenna info was extracted from such a certificate. > > > > I viewed and purchased a few last week at the Archives. > Informational and truly beautiful copies. > > > I'll post the step-by-step directions of how to use this, later today.>>> > https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex/&tab=collection > > > It's a goldmine to panhandle! > > > > > Barb > > [email protected] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian J Densmore <[email protected]> > > > > Access to the NYC Marriage Licenses has a new online presence, but it is > > incomplete. > > Did you share this new online presence with us and I missed it? > What/where is this new presence? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 20:11:41 -0400 > From: [email protected] > Subject: [NYNEWYOR] PBS TV NOW: 2 "VINTAGE" SHOWS > To: [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > 8pm eastern: Antiques Roadshow: "Vintage New York" > > > 9pm eastern: Antiques Roadshow: "Vintage Secaucus" > > > > > > > Barb > > [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NYNEWYOR list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the NYNEWYOR mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NYNEWYOR Digest, Vol 11, Issue 83 > **************************************** > ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I only see up to 1935-36. I'm interested in later years, anyone else having this issue? On Jun 28, 2016 3:13 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. NYC NMarriage Licenses 1908 - 1951 ([email protected]) > 2. PBS TV NOW: 2 "VINTAGE" SHOWS ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 11:31:03 -0400 > From: [email protected] > Subject: [NYNEWYOR] NYC NMarriage Licenses 1908 - 1951 > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Cc: [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > Access to Marriage LICNESE Index, not Marriage CERTIFICATES, 1908-1951. > > > > This McKenna info was extracted from such a certificate. > > > > I viewed and purchased a few last week at the Archives. > Informational and truly beautiful copies. > > > I'll post the step-by-step directions of how to use this, later today.>>> > https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex/&tab=collection > > > It's a goldmine to panhandle! > > > > > Barb > > [email protected] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian J Densmore <[email protected]> > > > > Access to the NYC Marriage Licenses has a new online presence, but it is > > incomplete. > > Did you share this new online presence with us and I missed it? > What/where is this new presence? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 20:11:41 -0400 > From: [email protected] > Subject: [NYNEWYOR] PBS TV NOW: 2 "VINTAGE" SHOWS > To: [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > 8pm eastern: Antiques Roadshow: "Vintage New York" > > > 9pm eastern: Antiques Roadshow: "Vintage Secaucus" > > > > > > > Barb > > [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NYNEWYOR list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the NYNEWYOR mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NYNEWYOR Digest, Vol 11, Issue 83 > **************************************** >

Hi Eileen, I recall helping you identify the correct Catholic church near a specific addresses. First, let me explain the steps involved. I tend to think that any multi-step process leave it open to fumbles. The marriage "process" 1908-1951 began with the couple applying in-person for, then acquiring, a "License to Marry." [I have one in front of me now.] The header title says "State of New York Affidavit for License to Marry." Couples applied for a license in the county where the ceremony would take place, usually where the bride lived. The couple had 90 days to actually marry while the license was valid. Once the marriage ceremony was performed aka "solemnized" [the word on the civil license form], the officiant was supposed to complete and return page three of the Marriage License to the county that issued the license. According to the form in front of me, the officiant was supposed to return his confirmation of marriage "on or before the 10th day" of the next month. Since you have the marriage certificate from St. Bernard's RC Church, this tells me that: l) The officiating priest neglected to complete then return the form to NYC, or returned it to the wrong county; or 2) The marriage ceremony did not occur within the 90 day licensing window; or 3) The officiating priest was not paid for his services; or 4) The officiating priest and/or his parish felt that their "sacramental" records were not the business of civil authorities. [This was quite common within the Irish culture.] 5) The officiating priest returned his section later than the 10th of the next month. In general, when page 3 of the license was not filed by the officiant with the city, this could lead researchers to believe that a marriage ceremony did not occur. FYI For each of the 5 marriage licenses that I purchased last week, none appear in the IGG/GGG marriage certificate search. I don't know if this is common or not. Eileen, residential addresses of both bride and groom appear on the Marriage License. Please contact me offlist if you'd like me to retrieve it for you. -----Original Message----- From: Chapman, Eileen <[email protected]> Thank you for the link, Barb. I found my grandfather and grandmother both listed and at each of their names there is a "NO RETURN" stamp and no date provided for their marriage. To add to the mystery, I have a marriage certificate for their wedding at St Bernard's church but when I called the church asking if they had the bride's address on file, they were very accommodating and spent quite a bit of time on the phone with me but could find no record of the marriage. Would love your thoughts on this mystery. Eileen -----Original Message-----mizscarlettny via Access to Marriage LICENSE Index, not Marriage CERTIFICATES, 1908-1951. I viewed and purchased a few last week at the Archives. Informational and truly beautiful copies. VIEW Marriage License Index here>>>> https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex/&tab=collection It's a goldmine to panhandle!

8pm eastern: Antiques Roadshow: "Vintage New York" 9pm eastern: Antiques Roadshow: "Vintage Secaucus" Barb [email protected]

Access to Marriage LICNESE Index, not Marriage CERTIFICATES, 1908-1951. This McKenna info was extracted from such a certificate. I viewed and purchased a few last week at the Archives. Informational and truly beautiful copies. I'll post the step-by-step directions of how to use this, later today.>>> https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex/&tab=collection It's a goldmine to panhandle! Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Brian J Densmore <[email protected]> > Access to the NYC Marriage Licenses has a new online presence, but it is > incomplete. Did you share this new online presence with us and I missed it? What/where is this new presence?

Legit closure. Please pass it on. The way that LDS/Family Search has been the past year, I'm awaiting some interesting additions. Barb [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen via <[email protected]> Subject: [BKLYN] Notice from FamilySearch regarding regarding Site unavailability on June 27 due to upgrades "FamilySearch has been working hard to upgrade our website to accommodate the ongoing growth of new features, such as hinting in the Family Tree. As a part of this process, FamilySearch.org will undergo a technical upgrade on Monday, June 27, starting at 12:00 a.m. MDT (6:00 a.m. UTC). The site may be unavailable for up to 24 hours as we test the system improvements. Thank you for your patience as we make these changes. We are excited about this site upgrade and the increased capacity to help people around the world discover their ancestors. Thank You, FamilySearch.org"