Hi Debbi! i forwarded your email to another Rootsweb list called "NY IRISH"...Have you found her in a Ship's List to see who she might have travelled with? Have you tried the LDS site where you can type in any name and find info? (that's "family search.org") As to why someone would come to the US..remember the devastation of the potato famine 1847 onward. If she were living in Manchester she probably went there to find work..domestic or in a factory. My own family story is almost the same and very common. MY grtgndfthr, born in 1854 in Ireland came to NYC/Manhattan..and never left. Came to make a life..started as a stable boy and eventually a coachman on the streets of Manhattan. And here I am still in NYC. My mother's family lived in the West 40's too...Hell's Kitchen..on West 47th St, W 49th and W 51st. It is not impossible but likely that my Griffin family knew your family up there!! Good luck! Kelly Gray Gray-Griffin-Devlin > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:54:11 +0000 > From: debbipowell@btinternet.com > To: NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Mary Ellen Sullivan nee Eaton [Advice/help needed] > > Hi, > > I am trying to find some information about my x2 great grandfather's sister and try to figure out why it came that she moved to the USA from England, as far as I can tell, with the information I have, on here own. > > Her name was Mary Ellen Eaton (Father: John Eaton, Mother: Bridget Eaton nee Corrigan). She was born c1856 in Ireland but lived in Manchester, England (found in the 1861 census). > > When in the USA she married a Timothy James Sullivan (Born: Massachusetts. Father: Jeremiah Sullivan, Mother: Elizabeth Lovett) at Nativity Church, on the 10th Nov 1878, Manhatten, New York, New York. I have also found them on the 1880 United States census on West 49th Street, Manhatten, New York. > > This is the only information I have been able to find on her and I would be extremely grateful for any help or advice anybody could give me, as I would love to know some information about her and how she came to live in the US, but I have never researched any family history in the US before. > > Thank you > > Debbi > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook – together at last.  Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033

Many vital records for NYC can be found on www.stevemorse.org Seeking marriage record for Arthur Charles Bingham, and Augusta Sylvia Larsen, about 1900-1905, and Arthur Charles Bingham and Agness ???? about 1910-1920, in either NYC or Brooklyn. Thanks. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Seeking marriage record for Arthur Charles Bingham, and Augusta Sylvia Larsen, about 1900-1905, and Arthur Charles Bingham and Agness ???? about 1910-1920, in either NYC or Brooklyn. Thanks. Dick Carter rcar37@prodigy.net

Liz Did any one find the Nass manifest? If not I found one that might be the one. Shirley ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

I am happy to tell you that the 9th ward of this census has gone online (Troy section of my website) tonight. This ward contains 4,804 dwellings, 7,106 families and 4,184 individuals. This brings the total so far for the online census at 34,877 individuals. We have completed the 10th ward and it is currently being put together and proofread and should go online sometime at the end of the week. The 11th ward is almost completely transcribed and we are currently working on the 12th and 13th wards. The goal is to complete the census and have it online by the end of the year. After that, I will combine it ( like the 1880 and 1900 censuses) to create a name index for easier searching. The people to thank for taking time out of their busy lives to transcribe the pages are: Lynn Grice, Sharon King, Bob McConihe, Joe Murnane, Marialice Mangan, Shirley Becker, Kay Brearton, Ronnie Lorentz, Gary Carver, and Chuck Casale. Without their help this would not be online. Remember this is basically an index and the census should be referred to for more information. Also, read the notes, they list the problems we encountered when transcribing the pages. If you would like to help, email me off line. All you need is a database program, like Works or Excel and a little time. After we get this census online, our next project will be the 1870 census. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

I am trying to contact the photo department at the Municipal records building in order to get a picture of the building my Grandfather had a Restaurant/Tavern. Unfortunately, I do NOT know the address and the last time I was there was in 1940. I know that Peter Styvesant or Peter Copper village has take over that whole area of the East side from about 15th to 19th Streets after WWII. Can anyone suggest how I can get a photo or the address for this place , it was on the corner of one of theses streets from 15th to 18th and 2nd Ave. I have tried looking thru Trows directories abut can find no listing for it for years 1922-34. My grandfather lived close by and walked to work, not sure but think on 19th St. Thank you.

Looking for August GUST and wife Louisa Augusta GUST. I believe they immigrated 1886 from Germany. Also an Albert NASS and Augusta NASS immigrated ?1884 and a Amelia SASS. Thank you. Liz

try the photo archives of the NY Public Library- Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "pat lewis" <carmodyp@bellsouth.net> To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Photos at archives >I am trying to contact the photo department at the Municipal records > building in order to get a picture of the building my Grandfather had > a Restaurant/Tavern. > Unfortunately, I do NOT know the address and the last time I was there > was in 1940. I know that Peter Styvesant or Peter Copper village has > take over that whole area of the East side from about 15th to 19th > Streets after WWII. > Can anyone suggest how I can get a photo or the address for this place > , it was on the corner of one of theses streets from 15th to 18th and > 2nd Ave. I have tried looking thru Trows directories abut can find no > listing for it for years 1922-34. > My grandfather lived close by and walked to work, not sure but think > on 19th St. > > Thank you. > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Liz I have found where he came here on a return trip in 1922 as a naturalized citizen and it gives some info that maybe helpful to you. If you contact me of list at _Richcourt@aol.com_ (mailto:Richcourt@aol.com) I can send the image to you. It does say he lives in Rochester. Shirley in Tx ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Could I have a lookup for Charles/Carl Woehrlen and his wife Augusta L. Woehrlen from Germany. They were living in Rochester by 1892. Thank you. Liz

Sorry list, meant to send it to Shelley personally! -----Original Message----- From: mkvirg@aol.com To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 1:05 pm Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] DUNN Family Photograph Hi Shelley, I just heard back from my cousin (at 85 years young it takes him awhile to get up the courage to pay for a long distance phone call!!) and he is sure that it is my great grandmother!!? I am soo thrilled!? Apparently there was a story about the tiara she was wearing that clinched it.? I would love to have the original if you have it, and would take the others that you found with it, if they are still available.? My cousin does recall the Graham surname mentioned also.? I would be more than willing to cover your cost of purchasing these photos, and also of course shipping.? Just let me know how much and I will send you a money order.? Also, my cousin was wondering the circumstances of where and when you found these pictures.? He thinks his grandmother (Lizzie Dunn) had a steamer that she brought from Ireland, and that it must have been left behind in a basement somewhere when his grandmother moved in with his mother and aunt.? I appreciate any info you can give me. Can't wait to hear from you! Sincerely, Marge Duffy Virgulak -----Original Message----- From: Shelley Cardiel <cardiels@comcast.net> To: NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:15 am Subject: [NYNEWYOR] DUNN Family Photograph I've "rescued" an old photograph of Lizzie DUNN which was taken at the Parkinson Studio in New York City, NY. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1890's with Lizzie likely in her teens or 20's at the time. The photograph was recovered with others belonging to the GRAHAM and DELEON Families, though I do not know what the connection might be I mention it just in case it is a clue. If you are a member of this family, or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

Hi Shelley, I just heard back from my cousin (at 85 years young it takes him awhile to get up the courage to pay for a long distance phone call!!) and he is sure that it is my great grandmother!!? I am soo thrilled!? Apparently there was a story about the tiara she was wearing that clinched it.? I would love to have the original if you have it, and would take the others that you found with it, if they are still available.? My cousin does recall the Graham surname mentioned also.? I would be more than willing to cover your cost of purchasing these photos, and also of course shipping.? Just let me know how much and I will send you a money order.? Also, my cousin was wondering the circumstances of where and when you found these pictures.? He thinks his grandmother (Lizzie Dunn) had a steamer that she brought from Ireland, and that it must have been left behind in a basement somewhere when his grandmother moved in with his mother and aunt.? I appreciate any info you can give me. Can't wait to hear from you! Sincerely, Marge Duffy Virgulak -----Original Message----- From: Shelley Cardiel <cardiels@comcast.net> To: NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:15 am Subject: [NYNEWYOR] DUNN Family Photograph I've "rescued" an old photograph of Lizzie DUNN which was taken at the Parkinson Studio in New York City, NY. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1890's with Lizzie likely in her teens or 20's at the time. The photograph was recovered with others belonging to the GRAHAM and DELEON Families, though I do not know what the connection might be I mention it just in case it is a clue. If you are a member of this family, or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

Hi Listers, I hope that I am on the correct List for my enquiry. I am looking for anyone who may help me with the family of Charles John BROWNING, born New York (according to family bible written in Australia) 16th May 1853. I have found in the 1860 US Federal Census an entry for New York Ward 7 District 1, New York, New York. This lists Household Members: Richd BROWNING Age 26 Hanns BROWNING Age 22 Jno BROWNING Age 6 Chas BROWNING Age 4 Willm BROWNING Age 3 Geo BROWNING Age 1 Jno BROWNING Age 38 Emma BROWNING Age 7 Eliza EGERTON Age 19 Joseph MERNICK Age 23 Given that while the family bible gives a birth year of 1853 his marriage certificate gives 1852 and his death certificate gives 1854 then this census date which gives 1856 is not altogether improbable. Does anyone know of this family? We do not know why he came to Australia (it was really after the gold rushes). He tried his hand at many, white collar activities, and is considered by later generations as something of a snake oil salesman. He was my G grandfather. What does the abbreviation "Jno" mean? Is "Hanns" a female name as well as German male name? Cheers Peter Melbourne Australia

Hi Listers, I hope that I am on the correct List for my enquiry. I am looking for anyone who may help me with the family of Charles John BROWNING, born New York (according to family bible written in Australia) 16th May 1853. I have found in the 1860 US Federal Census an entry for New York Ward 7 District 1, New York, New York. This lists Household Members: Richd BROWNING Age 26 Hanns BROWNING Age 22 Jno BROWNING Age 6 Chas BROWNING Age 4 Willm BROWNING Age 3 Geo BROWNING Age 1 Jno BROWNING Age 38 Emma BROWNING Age 7 Eliza EGERTON Age 19 Joseph MERNICK Age 23 Given that while the family bible gives a birth year of 1853 his marriage certificate gives 1852 and his death certificate gives 1854 then this census date which gives 1856 is not altogether improbable. Does anyone know of this family? We do not know why he came to Australia as he arrived C 1875 it was really after the gold rushes. He tried his hand at many, white collar activities, and is considered by later generations as something of a snake oil salesman. He was my G grandfather. What does the abbreviation "Jno" mean? Is "Hanns" a female name as well as German male name? Cheers Peter Melbourne Australia

Hello Peter - we seem to be meeting on a few LISTs. I believe that Jno is a common abbreviation for John. I don't know about Hanns for a female name but it could be a mis-transcription for Hanna. Fiona. IGP County Down Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/ -----Original Message----- From: nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Strauss Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 11:19 PM To: List-New York Subject: [NYNEWYOR] CHARLES BROWNING-1861 CENSUS Hi Listers, I hope that I am on the correct List for my enquiry. I am looking for anyone who may help me with the family of Charles John BROWNING, born New York (according to family bible written in Australia) 16th May 1853. I have found in the 1860 US Federal Census an entry for New York Ward 7 District 1, New York, New York. This lists Household Members: Richd BROWNING Age 26 Hanns BROWNING Age 22 Jno BROWNING Age 6 Chas BROWNING Age 4 Willm BROWNING Age 3 Geo BROWNING Age 1 Jno BROWNING Age 38 Emma BROWNING Age 7 Eliza EGERTON Age 19 Joseph MERNICK Age 23 Given that while the family bible gives a birth year of 1853 his marriage certificate gives 1852 and his death certificate gives 1854 then this census date which gives 1856 is not altogether improbable. Does anyone know of this family? We do not know why he came to Australia (it was really after the gold rushes). He tried his hand at many, white collar activities, and is considered by later generations as something of a snake oil salesman. He was my G grandfather. What does the abbreviation "Jno" mean? Is "Hanns" a female name as well as German male name? Cheers Peter Melbourne Australia Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Thank you all for all your suggestions. I am going to write to the Middle Collegiate Church and see if they know of any burial records from 1840. I appreciate all your help. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

I don't know if this will help answer your question or not but I sent it to you as a reference or aide to your search. Rosalie Fellows Barley in 1954 wrote a book called "Guide to Gene. and Biograph. sources in NYC". It's an old source but it can sometimes be helpful. She says that your church dissolved in 1844 and then became the New Dutch church. It was located in the years 1729-1844 at Nassau and Cedar in NYC. She goes on to state that the records (in 1954, at least for the church and maybe cemetery) were stored at the churches of the Collegiate Church at 45 John Street. I believe now that they are part of the Archives of the RC in America located in New Brunswick, NJ. If you "google" Archive of the Reformed Dutch Church you will come up with several helpful sites. As you probably know that no new burials in South Manhattan after 1851. Real Estate became so expensive that many churches sold off the cemetery property for the cash. In most cases the bodies were removed without much care in keeping track of names. Those churches that dug up the bodies buried them again in new cemetery plots. Some never dug up the bodies and old NYC is buried right on top of them. In any case the church cemetery you are looking for more than likely no longer exists. Sometime the names of the re-interred are given in the written minutes of the churches. Good luck to you, Joan -------------- Original message -------------- From: Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> > I recently found a death record for an ancestor who died in 1840 which > states he was buried in the Middle Dutch Cemetery in New York City. > Does anyone know if they keep records and if they are available to the > public? > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

ISN'T THAT Marble Collegite Church? Judy Seymour Merritt -----Original Message----- From: nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mark Lomax Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 3:11 PM To: nymets11@pacbell.net Cc: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Middle Dutch Cemetery Contact the Middle Collegiate Church, 50 E. 7th St., New York 10003-8497, telephone 212-477-0666. Mark Lomax California On 11/2/07, Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> wrote: > > I recently found a death record for an ancestor who died in 1840 which > states he was buried in the Middle Dutch Cemetery in New York City. > Does anyone know if they keep records and if they are available to the > public? > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Contact the Middle Collegiate Church, 50 E. 7th St., New York 10003-8497, telephone 212-477-0666. Mark Lomax California On 11/2/07, Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> wrote: > > I recently found a death record for an ancestor who died in 1840 which > states he was buried in the Middle Dutch Cemetery in New York City. > Does anyone know if they keep records and if they are available to the > public? > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >