I'm researching Jacob Mager and descendents lower Manhattan 1850-1903. Area known as little Germany. Family lived last on East Fifth St. MIKE maurmike1@verizon.net

I have started getting the 10th ward of this census online and hope to get it all online by the end of the day. Thanks goes to these good people who transcribed the ward: Lynn Grice, Sharon King, Bob McConihe, Joe Murnane, Marialice Mangan, Shirley Becker, Kay Brearton, Ronnie Lorentz, Gary Carver, and Chuck Casale. A special thanks to Lynn Grice for proofreading the census. FYI there were 598 dwellings, 1,090 families and 4,989 individuals in this ward. Please read the notes on the 10th ward webpage for the problems we encountered when transcribing. You can get to the website by going to the URL below my name than at the top of the page, under New York, click on Troy. There is a link on the Troy page for the census. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

ok, if you want let me know what you have and see what i can find out. the fellow i went to school with was from Maspeth, Queens County, NY, he would be about 53 right now. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Peter Scherrer married Elizabeth Pohle sometime after 1850. Their children, so far as i know are William, Peter, Phillip, Mary, Barbara, George, Eva, Ann, and Edward. Phillip married Annie Paul and had probably two children, but I only know one baby, Ernst, who died at 5 months, and Phillip died a few months later. they are inbetween census records so it is hard to find out- just found out that info the other day. Mary married William Kottmeier and had Barbara and William, neither of whom married, and I knew Barbara. Barbara married Alfred Tucker,and had Lillian, Albert, Edgar, William, Anna and Frederick. Edgar married Nell, and Albert married Elthel May and had Marylyn Jean. George married Mary, and had Mary, George, Peter, Phillip, and Elizabeth Eva, my g grandmother, first married Emil Eckhardt, and then Edgar Swain and had Edward and Eva ( my grandmother) Ann married John Dunn, and had Arthur and Marion Edward married Hattie and had William, Edward and Mary. This all goes from the 1850's about when Peter and Eliz married early after 1850, up into the 1900's. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <Northernrose54@aol.com> To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] scherrer family help- thanks > ok, if you want let me know what you have and see what i can find out. > > the fellow i went to school with was from Maspeth, Queens County, NY, he > would be about 53 right now. > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It gives her Mother's maiden name, if the person supplying the information for the death certificate knew it, which is the REAL prize!!! On my great-grandfather, the stupidest son was the informant and just said "don't know" to everything! But always lots of good stuff -- and very well worth the price and the wait!!! My grandmother died in those years and I found her the same way. Thanks to ItalianGen! So glad you found her! Birthplace is probably just Ireland or New York. Maureen ----- Original Message ----- From: DLCulhane@cs.com To: NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:49 AM Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Death certificate Thanks to listers for directing me to the on-line NYC death index. I've found a possibility for my Bridget Brennan who died between 1910 and 1920 and the age is off by only two years. Can anyone tell me the information I would find on a certificate from that period? Would it give her birthplace, maiden name, or parents' or husband's names? I'd need one of those to be sure I had the right Bridget Brennan. Diane Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many Irish went to Manchester first -- often to find jobs, and perhaps with their parents ..... but some like my own two greatgrandparents went to Manchester because they were sent to orphanages there by the ruling British authorities in Ireland after their parents died in the Great Famine. My greatgrandparents were also married at Nativity Church on Second Avenue, which I understand is still in existence. The common people were poor and hungry all over Europe in those days. There was no democracy. People were at the mercy of landed gentry who abused them and made great wealth off their labors. The Irish had no unions, no vote, no recourse to any enlightened civil law to help them. Remember the USA colonies rebelled from all that and set up a democracy of the highest order, although we appear now to be heading back in the old direction and giving up many of our cherished civil liberties without a second thought today. There were excellent jobs available for those English-speaking Irish girls in the USA at that time .... and they came alone and with sisters and friends when they could .... by the thousands every week! In cities like New York and Boston as housemaids, cooks, nannies, seamstresses who could live in warm and fine homes, have three meals and uniforms provided, and earn a wage besides (perhaps saving those wages to bring over their siblings and even their parents). After becoming acclimated they could move out into the shops and large stores being built in Manhattan, open their own millinery or dressmaking businesses. Find husbands. The whole world was open to them in America. Jobs for Irish women were much better and much more readily available than jobs for Irish men or other immigrants at that time. In the Boston area there were textile mills needing thousands of those bright English-speaking girls .... they built dormitories for them and recruited sisters and friends to come to America and live and work together. Go back in the US Censuses as far as you can, seeking her and possibly her parents, and then try the British Censuses for Manchester, also looking for her parents as well. All the censuses for that era in the British Isles and in the USA are readily available on Ancestry.com at a library in your area or by personal subscription. ----- Original Message ----- From: Debbi Powell To: NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:54 AM Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Mary Ellen Sullivan nee Eaton [Advice/help needed] Hi, I am trying to find some information about my x2 great grandfather's sister and try to figure out why it came that she moved to the USA from England, as far as I can tell, with the information I have, on here own. Her name was Mary Ellen Eaton (Father: John Eaton, Mother: Bridget Eaton nee Corrigan). She was born c1856 in Ireland but lived in Manchester, England (found in the 1861 census). When in the USA she married a Timothy James Sullivan (Born: Massachusetts. Father: Jeremiah Sullivan, Mother: Elizabeth Lovett) at Nativity Church, on the 10th Nov 1878, Manhatten, New York, New York. I have also found them on the 1880 United States census on West 49th Street, Manhatten, New York. This is the only information I have been able to find on her and I would be extremely grateful for any help or advice anybody could give me, as I would love to know some information about her and how she came to live in the US, but I have never researched any family history in the US before. Thank you Debbi Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to listers for directing me to the on-line NYC death index. I've found a possibility for my Bridget Brennan who died between 1910 and 1920 and the age is off by only two years. Can anyone tell me the information I would find on a certificate from that period? Would it give her birthplace, maiden name, or parents' or husband's names? I'd need one of those to be sure I had the right Bridget Brennan. Diane

I've "rescued" two old photographs which I believe both belong to the CHRISTIANSEN Family of New York. The first is a photograph of John CHRISTIANSEN which was taken at the W. Fricke Studio in New York City. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1880's with John likely in his 20's at the time it was taken. In addition to his name, someone has also written "Nis CHRISTIANSEN'S youngest brother" on the back of the photograph. I am guessing that "Nis" might be a nickname or shortened version of something else. The second photograph is unidentified, however, the resemblance to John is obvious. This second photograph was taken at the Mora Studio in New York City, also probably taken in the 1880's with the man in the photograph appearing to be in his 20's or 30's at the time. I am hoping to see both of these wonderful old photographs returned to the family. If you are a member of this family, or if you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

Where did your Scherrer family originate. My great great grandmother was a Scherrer from Bavaria. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

Thanks, Kate. I found that site after posting my query and have a couple of candidates. Diane

I'm trying to learn what happened to a cousin of my grandfather's who emigrated from Ireland to New York in 1901. Bridget/Delia Kelly married Thomas Brennan around 1906 and gave birth to a daughter, Helen, in the spring of 1910, when they lived in Manhattan. The parents aren't shown in the 1920 census, but an 8-year-old Helen Brennan is listed with her adoptive parents, David and Nellie Lowrey, in Brooklyn. I'd like to find out what happened to Bridget and Thomas. Does New York City or state have a death index for that period? Thanks for any advice. Diane

I havn't figured out which part of Germany he came from. There is an immigration card for a Peter Scherrer from Bavaria, but I don't think it is him. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth V Cardinal" <evc1369@comcast.net> To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] scherrer family help- thanks > Where did your Scherrer family originate. > > My great great grandmother was a Scherrer from Bavaria. > > Elizabeth V. Cardinal > evc1369@comcast.net > > > > > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

where did you scherrer family lived i went to school with guy of the same name. Jerry ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Do you know what year Brisget and Thomas were born? I'm finding 2 pages of Thomas Brennans and a few Bridget Brennans that died in Mahattan between 1910 and 1920 on the Italian Gen site: http://www.italiangen.org/NYCDeathSearch.asp Kate DLCulhane@cs.com wrote: I'm trying to learn what happened to a cousin of my grandfather's who emigrated from Ireland to New York in 1901. Bridget/Delia Kelly married Thomas Brennan around 1906 and gave birth to a daughter, Helen, in the spring of 1910, when they lived in Manhattan. The parents aren't shown in the 1920 census, but an 8-year-old Helen Brennan is listed with her adoptive parents, David and Nellie Lowrey, in Brooklyn. I'd like to find out what happened to Bridget and Thomas. Does New York City or state have a death index for that period? Thanks for any advice. Diane Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

new york city ----- Original Message ----- From: <Northernrose54@aol.com> To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] scherrer family help- thanks > where did you scherrer family lived i went to school with guy of the same > name. > > Jerry > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I want to thank T Torre and others who helped me with indentifying people from the italian genealogy site; I took the Lutheran Cemetery info for my Scherrer family, as well as the possible marriage for Phillip Scherrer, and I found a bunch of death certificates as well as the marraige certificate. Reading what he died of is a bit of a mystery, although i may have figured it out. But, since the SL Family History library closes at 5 on MOnday, I literally raced around getting index numbers and death certificates for almost everyone buried there. I tried finding the same marriage record for Phillip Scherrer, on the italian site, and couldn't find it. I guess I need to learn better how to use it. It was so helpful to have a number to go straight to. Now I know his wife's full name, and other valuable things. Sue

I am trying to get a number for INS in lower Manhattan, they have my file. No one answers or the number is not valid HELP!!! Gabriele

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Early Manhattan Experts: Death Notices and Wills, early 1800's mentioning Greenwich, some with NY after it. The first ones I saw (without NY) I assumed were referencing Greenwich,CT. Could it refer to a community in Manhattan ? Bill

Hi, I am trying to find some information about my x2 great grandfather's sister and try to figure out why it came that she moved to the USA from England, as far as I can tell, with the information I have, on here own. Her name was Mary Ellen Eaton (Father: John Eaton, Mother: Bridget Eaton nee Corrigan). She was born c1856 in Ireland but lived in Manchester, England (found in the 1861 census). When in the USA she married a Timothy James Sullivan (Born: Massachusetts. Father: Jeremiah Sullivan, Mother: Elizabeth Lovett) at Nativity Church, on the 10th Nov 1878, Manhatten, New York, New York. I have also found them on the 1880 United States census on West 49th Street, Manhatten, New York. This is the only information I have been able to find on her and I would be extremely grateful for any help or advice anybody could give me, as I would love to know some information about her and how she came to live in the US, but I have never researched any family history in the US before. Thank you Debbi