Sue This link might give you where to write and what orphans records are available. Some think that this link is just for Brooklyn but it has NYC and a great resource. _http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Orphan/index.html_ (http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Orphan/index.html) Shirley in Tx In a message dated 3/3/2008 6:07:26 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, suemaxwell@comcast.net writes: I have a very complicated problem I am trying to figure out. The parents James and Anna Bloomfield are listed on the 1900 census with three of their four children: Marion Colton, Helen Leffert and James Myers. Apparently another girl named Dorothy Colton was born about 1903. Dorothy was apparently put into an orphanage at age 1. No one knows what happened to the parents, as each child was adopted, and i have the names of the persons who adopted them. The only one I can track is James, who was in the New York Orphan Asylum in 1910. So I suspect that Dorothy was there, also, but was adopted inbetween census records. Dorothy married an ancestor named Phillip Vollmer. Her adopted father is Archibald Haynes. I am having the worst trouble trying to find any of these children on early census records, even with the names of the people who adopted them. I have been working all day for several days, on ancestry, trying diff. ways to figure this all out. I can't figure out what happened to the parents, either. Does anyone have any suggestions? Would the records of this former asylum be available? Sue Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

I have a very complicated problem I am trying to figure out. The parents James and Anna Bloomfield are listed on the 1900 census with three of their four children: Marion Colton, Helen Leffert and James Myers. Apparently another girl named Dorothy Colton was born about 1903. Dorothy was apparently put into an orphanage at age 1. No one knows what happened to the parents, as each child was adopted, and i have the names of the persons who adopted them. The only one I can track is James, who was in the New York Orphan Asylum in 1910. So I suspect that Dorothy was there, also, but was adopted inbetween census records. Dorothy married an ancestor named Phillip Vollmer. Her adopted father is Archibald Haynes. I am having the worst trouble trying to find any of these children on early census records, even with the names of the people who adopted them. I have been working all day for several days, on ancestry, trying diff. ways to figure this all out. I can't figure out what happened to the parents, either. Does anyone have any suggestions? Would the records of this former asylum be available? Sue

Joy Rich wrote: > You absolutely do have my permission, Fiona. Thank you for letting > other people know about B-Ann's passing. > > Joy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Garrity <mailto:jimgarrity@earthlink.net> > To: Joy Rich-Earthlink <mailto:joyrichny@earthlink.net> > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 9:54 PM > Subject: [Re: [NYNEWYOR] A Friend, B-Ann Moorhouse, Has Passed Away] > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] A Friend, B-Ann Moorhouse, Has Passed Away > Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:05:01 -0500 > From: Fiona Jones <mourneminers@optonline.net> > Reply-To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com > To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com > References: <47CB43FD.60408@earthlink.net> > > > >Joy - please may I have your permission to post this to the NIR-DOWN LIST if >you have not already done so. > >Fiona. >======= >IGP Co. Down Coordinator >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/index.htm >Author of Miners of Mourne >http://www.fipacian.com/MinersofMourne.htm > >-----Original Message----- >From: nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of Jim Garrity >Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:19 PM >To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NYNEWYOR] A Friend, B-Ann Moorhouse, Has Passed Away > > >I write to you with a heavy heart about the passing of B-Ann Moorhouse. >B-Ann was a professional genealogist (and a CG) for several decades. She >was loved and respected by the enormous number of people whose lives she >touched. B-Ann was the epitome of kindness and graciousness. She >believed in people and encouraged them to fulfill their potential. She >was always eager to share - especially with the next generation of >professional genealogists and with librarians and archivists - the >astonishing amount of wisdom, knowledge, and insight she had in the >field of genealogy, particularly concerning Irish and colonial American >genealogy. Another area of great interest to B-Ann was the history of >African American families in Brooklyn. > >B-Ann was the founder in 1978 of the Ulster Historical Foundation's >Ulster Genealogical and Historical Guild, a research co-operative >established to link people worldwide who shared a common interest in >Irish genealogy. She also founded the Genealogy Workshop at the Brooklyn >Historical Society, which, at the time, was named the Long Island >Historical Society. She authored numerous articles for genealogical >publications, abstracted Kings County, New York, administration >proceedings and typed them on an extremely temperamental computer, and >created finding aids for New York City for several New York state censuses. > >She was given access to basements and storage rooms in New York City's >Municipal Archives (when it was still in the Tweed Courthouse), Brooklyn >Surrogate's Court, and the Long Island Historical Society. Left to her >own devices, she proceeded to rummage around and found hidden treasures >that she brought to light. > >B-Ann passed away on February 15, 2008, in Georgia. Her beloved niece, >Ann, who assured me that B-Ann died peacefully, moved her there last >year so that she could care for B-Ann in her last months. It will bring >a smile to your lips to know that, under Ann's care, our B-Ann of the >small frame gained sixteen pounds in six months. > >Soon before she moved to Georgia, Jim Garrity and I paid her what turned >out to be our final visit. We took her for a stroll on the promenade >in her Brooklyn Heights neighborhood and then out to dinner. We had a >wonderful time. It is just one of so many good memories of her that we >will have with us always. > >Ann has sent to The New York Times the obituary that B-Ann wrote about >herself. It will be published at >http://www.legacy.com/NYTimes/DeathNotices.asp . B-Ann will be dearly >missed by her friends and her family. > >Joy Rich >Brooklyn, NY > > >Jim Garrity, List Administrator >jimgarrity@earthlink.net >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > >Jim Garrity, List Administrator >jimgarrity@earthlink.net >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Joy - please may I have your permission to post this to the NIR-DOWN LIST if you have not already done so. Fiona. ======= IGP Co. Down Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirdow2/index.htm Author of Miners of Mourne http://www.fipacian.com/MinersofMourne.htm -----Original Message----- From: nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Garrity Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:19 PM To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYNEWYOR] A Friend, B-Ann Moorhouse, Has Passed Away I write to you with a heavy heart about the passing of B-Ann Moorhouse. B-Ann was a professional genealogist (and a CG) for several decades. She was loved and respected by the enormous number of people whose lives she touched. B-Ann was the epitome of kindness and graciousness. She believed in people and encouraged them to fulfill their potential. She was always eager to share - especially with the next generation of professional genealogists and with librarians and archivists - the astonishing amount of wisdom, knowledge, and insight she had in the field of genealogy, particularly concerning Irish and colonial American genealogy. Another area of great interest to B-Ann was the history of African American families in Brooklyn. B-Ann was the founder in 1978 of the Ulster Historical Foundation's Ulster Genealogical and Historical Guild, a research co-operative established to link people worldwide who shared a common interest in Irish genealogy. She also founded the Genealogy Workshop at the Brooklyn Historical Society, which, at the time, was named the Long Island Historical Society. She authored numerous articles for genealogical publications, abstracted Kings County, New York, administration proceedings and typed them on an extremely temperamental computer, and created finding aids for New York City for several New York state censuses. She was given access to basements and storage rooms in New York City's Municipal Archives (when it was still in the Tweed Courthouse), Brooklyn Surrogate's Court, and the Long Island Historical Society. Left to her own devices, she proceeded to rummage around and found hidden treasures that she brought to light. B-Ann passed away on February 15, 2008, in Georgia. Her beloved niece, Ann, who assured me that B-Ann died peacefully, moved her there last year so that she could care for B-Ann in her last months. It will bring a smile to your lips to know that, under Ann's care, our B-Ann of the small frame gained sixteen pounds in six months. Soon before she moved to Georgia, Jim Garrity and I paid her what turned out to be our final visit. We took her for a stroll on the promenade in her Brooklyn Heights neighborhood and then out to dinner. We had a wonderful time. It is just one of so many good memories of her that we will have with us always. Ann has sent to The New York Times the obituary that B-Ann wrote about herself. It will be published at http://www.legacy.com/NYTimes/DeathNotices.asp . B-Ann will be dearly missed by her friends and her family. Joy Rich Brooklyn, NY Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I write to you with a heavy heart about the passing of B-Ann Moorhouse. B-Ann was a professional genealogist (and a CG) for several decades. She was loved and respected by the enormous number of people whose lives she touched. B-Ann was the epitome of kindness and graciousness. She believed in people and encouraged them to fulfill their potential. She was always eager to share - especially with the next generation of professional genealogists and with librarians and archivists - the astonishing amount of wisdom, knowledge, and insight she had in the field of genealogy, particularly concerning Irish and colonial American genealogy. Another area of great interest to B-Ann was the history of African American families in Brooklyn. B-Ann was the founder in 1978 of the Ulster Historical Foundation's Ulster Genealogical and Historical Guild, a research co-operative established to link people worldwide who shared a common interest in Irish genealogy. She also founded the Genealogy Workshop at the Brooklyn Historical Society, which, at the time, was named the Long Island Historical Society. She authored numerous articles for genealogical publications, abstracted Kings County, New York, administration proceedings and typed them on an extremely temperamental computer, and created finding aids for New York City for several New York state censuses. She was given access to basements and storage rooms in New York City's Municipal Archives (when it was still in the Tweed Courthouse), Brooklyn Surrogate's Court, and the Long Island Historical Society. Left to her own devices, she proceeded to rummage around and found hidden treasures that she brought to light. B-Ann passed away on February 15, 2008, in Georgia. Her beloved niece, Ann, who assured me that B-Ann died peacefully, moved her there last year so that she could care for B-Ann in her last months. It will bring a smile to your lips to know that, under Ann's care, our B-Ann of the small frame gained sixteen pounds in six months. Soon before she moved to Georgia, Jim Garrity and I paid her what turned out to be our final visit. We took her for a stroll on the promenade in her Brooklyn Heights neighborhood and then out to dinner. We had a wonderful time. It is just one of so many good memories of her that we will have with us always. Ann has sent to The New York Times the obituary that B-Ann wrote about herself. It will be published at http://www.legacy.com/NYTimes/DeathNotices.asp . B-Ann will be dearly missed by her friends and her family. Joy Rich Brooklyn, NY

Thankyou William!

Thankyou Bill ! someone sent it to me already ! pat -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Bill" <billmellsworth@comcast.net> > Ah! found it > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:48 PM > Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Census lookup > > > > Can someone with ancestry please lookup in the 1930 census for > > Eduard and Alice Mastrella living in Queens. I would very much appreciate > > a copy. > > > > > > thankyou > > Pat > > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Can someone with ancestry please lookup in the 1930 census for Eduard and Alice Mastrella living in Queens. I would very much appreciate a copy. thankyou Pat

Ah! found it Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <patie124@comcast.net> To: <nynewyor-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:48 PM Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Census lookup > Can someone with ancestry please lookup in the 1930 census for > Eduard and Alice Mastrella living in Queens. I would very much appreciate > a copy. > > > thankyou > Pat > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Where do you want the inage sent? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <patie124@comcast.net> To: <nynewyor-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:48 PM Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Census lookup > Can someone with ancestry please lookup in the 1930 census for > Eduard and Alice Mastrella living in Queens. I would very much appreciate > a copy. > > > thankyou > Pat > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Carol, It is possible, I haven't done much on the Morgan Line. My GrGrandfather married Charlotte L Morgan in Ulster County. Her father was Gideon B Morgan. They lived on the Ulster-Orange border. I will look when I get home to see if I have any other ancestry on them. In Bradenton FL at present. ----- Original Message ----- From: cheap@simon.com To: W.STAPLES ; nynewyor@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] 1870 CENSUS Bill Staples,WE (Worker Emeritus) New Jersey Researching Staples, Holmes, DeHart, Elms, Sherwood, Cosman, Morgan. Conn., Ulster, Orange,Staten Island Bill, Are you related to the Westchester MORGANs? My husband comes from Caleb MORGAN & Levinia HATFIELD. White Plains area 1770 forward. Thanks, Carol L. Heap Florida

Bill Staples,WE (Worker Emeritus) New Jersey Researching Staples, Holmes, DeHart, Elms, Sherwood, Cosman, Morgan. Conn., Ulster, Orange,Staten Island Bill, Are you related to the Westchester MORGANs? My husband comes from Caleb MORGAN & Levinia HATFIELD. White Plains area 1770 forward. Thanks, Carol L. Heap Florida

Thanks, I got the answer, legal challange by ny on the accuracy of the 1st enum. ----- Original Message ----- From: Maureen To: W.STAPLES ; nynewyor@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] 1870 CENSUS Second enumeration would mean it was redone for some reason which affected the accuracy of the first enumeration. If your own family is the same in both enumerations then it doesn't matter. If they are different, accept the second one because it will have been conducted by a better-qualified enumerator. ----- Original Message ----- From: W.STAPLES To: MANHATTAN LIST Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 4:12 PM Subject: [NYNEWYOR] 1870 CENSUS I Have two listing in the 1870 census for the same family. (15th ward ) One references ' 2nd enumeration' Anyone know why this might have happened ? Bill Staples,WE (Worker Emeritus) New Jersey Researching Staples, Holmes, DeHart, Elms, Sherwood, Cosman, Morgan. Conn., Ulster, Orange,Staten Island Web Site www.wstaples.net Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been pointed out what do I wish for to get on these families.? I am looking for the Name Wilmarth family that was married the Lovatt family. Below is what I have. I have spent over $ 300.00 to a great group of genealogist, and have gotten alot. Thanks so much Diane!!But that one question still lurks is there any one out there that still remembers these to families together? It is like finding a needle in a haystack. I have the census newspaper articles, coroners inquest, but you as other genealogist's we are always looking for more and more. Margert StGeorge was married to a Wilmarth and Margret was my great grandmothers sister. That is my link ! So as I ask if anything can come up from this I am great full , if not I will ask again in a few months. Thanks all Linda Lovatt-Mayenschein

Rdpiet@aol.com wrote: > I could be wrong, but without dates, places, offspring, > names, and yadda yadda I don't think you will get to the > nitty gritty without more details. Ur posrting is about the > same as saying "I am looking for John Smith". To get > anyplace you should do the Who, what, where, and when thing > ....... > > Looking for any information on these families. I am a great great > granddaughter to Galen Lovatt and Philipians ST George. I am looking for > any documents pictures relations, and perhaps > the wear abouts of my grandfather William Lovatt ashes are. Were they > buried with his mother since he died before her and the funeral home > stated that the ashes were given to her Philipina St George-Lovatt. The > cemetery has no record of the ashes being in the coffin with her but > also cant say that they were put there but unknown person(s). > I believe it all be in Manhattan areas. Diane Jacobs has help extremely > alot and want to thank her again but I I wish to dig down to the nitty > gritty. > Thanks > > > > > ************** > Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Second enumeration would mean it was redone for some reason which affected the accuracy of the first enumeration. If your own family is the same in both enumerations then it doesn't matter. If they are different, accept the second one because it will have been conducted by a better-qualified enumerator. ----- Original Message ----- From: W.STAPLES To: MANHATTAN LIST Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 4:12 PM Subject: [NYNEWYOR] 1870 CENSUS I Have two listing in the 1870 census for the same family. (15th ward ) One references ' 2nd enumeration' Anyone know why this might have happened ? Bill Staples,WE (Worker Emeritus) New Jersey Researching Staples, Holmes, DeHart, Elms, Sherwood, Cosman, Morgan. Conn., Ulster, Orange,Staten Island Web Site www.wstaples.net Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This link explains why there was a 2nd enumeration. http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Census/1870/1870.CS.NYC.html -------------------------------------------------- From: "W.STAPLES" <WS-GENEAL@comcast.net> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:12 PM To: "MANHATTAN LIST" <NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NYNEWYOR] 1870 CENSUS > I Have two listing in the 1870 census for the same family. (15th ward ) One references ' 2nd enumeration' Anyone know why this might have happened ? > > Bill Staples,WE (Worker Emeritus) > New Jersey > Researching Staples, Holmes, DeHart, Elms, Sherwood, Cosman, Morgan. Conn., Ulster, Orange,Staten Island > > Web Site www.wstaples.net > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for any information on these families. I am a great great granddaughter to Galen Lovatt and Philipians ST George. I am looking for any documents pictures relations, and perhaps the wear abouts of my grandfather William Lovatt ashes are. Were they buried with his mother since he died before her and the funeral home stated that the ashes were given to her Philipina St George-Lovatt. The cemetery has no record of the ashes being in the coffin with her but also cant say that they were put there but unknown person(s). I believe it all be in Manhattan areas. Diane Jacobs has help extremely alot and want to thank her again but I I wish to dig down to the nitty gritty. Thanks Linda Lovatt-Mayenschein

I Have two listing in the 1870 census for the same family. (15th ward ) One references ' 2nd enumeration' Anyone know why this might have happened ? Bill Staples,WE (Worker Emeritus) New Jersey Researching Staples, Holmes, DeHart, Elms, Sherwood, Cosman, Morgan. Conn., Ulster, Orange,Staten Island Web Site www.wstaples.net

I am a little confused. Were you able to find 1885 birthdates? The web site you list only goes back to 1891. I, too, am looking for birth certificates for 1885, 1886 and 1888. Where did you find the info? -----Original Message----- From: nybrooklyn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nybrooklyn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of 'pic' Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 10:45 AM To: NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com; NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com Subject: [BKLYN] Thank you all - Sorry for misunderstanding When you click on the following http://stevemorse.org/vital/nybirth.html It brings you to a search page. put in last name only, hit search and the search is done by Ancestry. Irene L. Corney date info source View Full Context Florence A Corney date info Went tp NY City site http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vitalrecords/birth.shtml They charge $15.00 for first one, if they do another year $2.00 Charge. A cousin disputes a birth date, as she says that the person told family all her records were burned in a church fire, and that she was born in Miami FL in 1887. I know for a fact NO Children were born in the 1800's in Florida as the parents only started going to florida in the early 1900's. They want proof. Margaret A. Corney was born 24 Sep 1885 along with Florence A. was born 24 Sep 1885 - d. 17 Apr 1885 Also Mabel A Corney 24 Sep 1885. Children were born: Surrey, Eng 1875; Isle of Wight Eng 1881 to 1883; Canada 1884, 1886 1887, 1888; New York, 1885 1892 and 1896. My Grandfather 15 Jan 1892, the last male born. Thank you all for your replies. Pat Corney ___________________________________ The Bklyn Info Pages Website: www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com ___________________________________ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message