There is a fascinating story about the potter's field on Hart Island in today's New York Times; here's a link to the story: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/nyregion/24hart.html?ref=nyregion The article says that it is estimated that 800,000 people have been buried on the island since 1869, with 1,500 added each year. Mark Lomax California

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Could sks who has Ancestry.com please lookup a Military Record of this person please? Edward L. Boyer born Dec. abt 1924 beleive he lived in Cleveland Ohio. thankyou pat

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Pat, The Source Call number is generally the microfilm number. To make sure that it is the correct number of the film you are looking to get- go back to the familysearch.org site and go to the library tab (like you would do to find a film). Go to Family History Lib. tab. Hit the film/fiche prompt about halfway down the page and then when prompted put in that source/call number. It will usually be what you want be sometimes it is not (always best to be safe). Don't worry about the page number. What SLC is looking for is the reel number of the film that the certif. is going to be on then they want the names What the event is (B,M, or D) then the date of the event and the county and country of the event Then they need the certif. number. (the page number and parish are for English/Irish researchers, generally) Put the certif. number in that page spot Send the money and your good to go-- Good Luck Joan -------------- Original message -------------- From: patie124@comcast.net > I am trying to order marriage cert. from familysearch.org. I printed off the > form, Is the Source Call # the # you put in the colum where it says > microfilm or microfiche # ?and how do you find the page #. > > On Familysearch.org I found the two marriages of Giles Poole in NJ. > They have the same batch # and the same source call# .I'm just not sure > how to do this. Any help appreciated. > > > > thanks > > pat > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I am trying to order marriage cert. from familysearch.org. I printed off the form, Is the Source Call # the # you put in the colum where it says microfilm or microfiche # ?and how do you find the page #. On Familysearch.org I found the two marriages of Giles Poole in NJ. They have the same batch # and the same source call# .I'm just not sure how to do this. Any help appreciated. thanks pat

i I see on an early map of Manhattan, strips of land with their owners which appear to run across the island. Overlayed are the street as they are now. I'm curious as to how this transition took place. Was there a massive relocation, land purchase by the Corp. or ? Bill Staples,WE (Worker Emeritus) New Jersey Researching Staples, Holmes, DeHart, Elms, Sherwood, Cosman, Morgan. Conn., Ulster, Orange,Staten Island Web Site www.wstaples.net

Can sks please lookup in the 1920 census for this person please? Mary Nolan McGill born in Ireland her husband John MCGill also born in Ireland maybe in Cleveland Ohio. thanks pat

Got it Thanks, Carol L. Heap FL

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Sue, I had basically the same problem with one of my ancestors as you have been having. In addition to the suggestions that you have already received I suggest that you get state census instead of the federal census. These were done inbetween the federal census. There is no index to them however. The trick is to find the father's name and address before the family is split. Once you have the address you will then need to find the ward/ or ED number to the nearest census you want (ie; fed census 1900/ state census 1905). You can probably get this by just calling or emailing the NYPL or the Muni Archives. Once you get the reel that has that year you go to the ED/Ward number and start searching for your family. I found my lost family this way and was quite sucessful with it using the 1865 NY state census and the 1915 census. Orphan assylums were enumerated in each of the census but the child's age might be off quite a number of years or their name altered in some way. Good Luck Joan -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Sue Maxwell" <suemaxwell@comcast.net> > I have a very complicated problem I am trying to figure out. > > The parents James and Anna Bloomfield are listed on the 1900 census with three > of their four children: Marion Colton, Helen Leffert and James Myers. Apparently > another girl named Dorothy Colton was born about 1903. Dorothy was apparently > put into an orphanage at age 1. No one knows what happened to the parents, as > each child was adopted, and i have the names of the persons who adopted them. > The only one I can track is James, who was in the New York Orphan Asylum in > 1910. So I suspect that Dorothy was there, also, but was adopted inbetween > census records. > Dorothy married an ancestor named Phillip Vollmer. Her adopted father is > Archibald Haynes. > > I am having the worst trouble trying to find any of these children on early > census records, even with the names of the people who adopted them. I have been > working all day for several days, on ancestry, trying diff. ways to figure this > all out. > > I can't figure out what happened to the parents, either. > > Does anyone have any suggestions? > > Would the records of this former asylum be available? > > Sue > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Thankyou! -------------- Original message -------------- From: "BobClancy" <clancspa@earthlink.net> > Only one hit produced by an exact Ancestry search: SSDI which you may have > seen already. Info from the Index follows. > > Name: Alice Jarvis > SSN: 247-70-1472 > Last Residence: 29150 Sumter, Sumter, South Carolina, United States of > America > Born: 24 Feb 1898 > Died: Jan 1977 > State (Year) SSN issued: South Carolina (1959 ) > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:56 PM > To: > Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Death Cert # /Alice Jarvis / > > > Can someone with Ancestry please see if there is a Death Cert # > > for this person? > > > > > > Alice Jarvis > > d- Jan 1977 > > Sumter, SC > > > > > > thankyou > > Pat > > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Can someone with Ancestry please see if there is a Death Cert # for this person? Alice Jarvis d- Jan 1977 Sumter, SC thankyou Pat

Just to set the record straight, there is a Manhattan and part of the Bronx street address index for the 1905, 1915 and 1925 which I have used in the Genealogy Room of the NYPL at 5th Avenue and 42nd Street. It will give you the AD,ED, and page numbers for a specific address and from there you can easily find the correct microfilm to use to find the actual census pages. For the 1915 NYS census for Kings County I have seen a looseleaf book in the FHL Mormon Center in Plainview, NY (Long Island) which gives you the AD , ED number and you can go through all the pages of that specific microfilm to find the address you want. Diane Jacobs Somerset, NJ Sue, I had basically the same problem with one of my ancestors as you have been having. In addition to the suggestions that you have already received I suggest that you get state census instead of the federal census. These were done inbetween the federal census. There is no index to them however. The trick is to find the father's name and address before the family is split. Once you have the address you will then need to find the ward/ or ED number to the nearest census you want (ie; fed census 1900/ state census 1905). You can probably get this by just calling or emailing the NYPL or the Muni Archives. Once you get the reel that has that year you go to the ED/Ward number and start searching for your family. I found my lost family this way and was quite sucessful with it using the 1865 NY state census and the 1915 census. Orphan assylums were enumerated in each of the census but the child's age might be off quite a number of years or their name altered in some way. Good Luck Joan

actually, I have been working on the sly with Marilyn, because it is so mysterious; we have been finding things; James had a first wife that he divorsed- that marriage produced the first two girls; he then remarried and lived in Vermont; they had a son and later a daughter- but I think the last daughter was born in NYC, according to my cousin. I have all of the names of who adopted whom. I found out that James got murdered but I can't figure out what happened to his second wife. I just went over to the library and printed out tons of articles, so slowly we are figuring out the situation. I have been doing this privately, as it takes so long to get an email to the site. Thanks for your thoughts- I am going to go up to SL and look at state census records and city directories, etc. I have found alot of references on the net also. It really helps to have someone help with a tough problem, and I appreciate everyone's assistance. I am so involved with researching for several books I am co-authoring, that I can't help others at the moment, but when that and my MS is done, then I will be more free to be a helper, also. The problem has us both very intrigued- a real mystery. Sue Maxwell ----- Original Message ----- From: <sadiegirl06@comcast.net> To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] New York Orphan Asylum > Sue, > I had basically the same problem with one of my ancestors as you have been > having. In addition to the suggestions that you have already received I > suggest that you get state census instead of the federal census. These > were done inbetween the federal census. There is no index to them > however. The trick is to find the father's name and address before the > family is split. Once you have the address you will then need to find the > ward/ or ED number to the nearest census you want (ie; fed census 1900/ > state census 1905). You can probably get this by just calling or emailing > the NYPL or the Muni Archives. Once you get the reel that has that year > you go to the ED/Ward number and start searching for your family. > I found my lost family this way and was quite sucessful with it using the > 1865 NY state census and the 1915 census. > Orphan assylums were enumerated in each of the census but the child's age > might be off quite a number of years or their name altered in some way. > Good Luck > Joan > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Sue Maxwell" <suemaxwell@comcast.net> > >> I have a very complicated problem I am trying to figure out. >> >> The parents James and Anna Bloomfield are listed on the 1900 census with >> three >> of their four children: Marion Colton, Helen Leffert and James Myers. >> Apparently >> another girl named Dorothy Colton was born about 1903. Dorothy was >> apparently >> put into an orphanage at age 1. No one knows what happened to the >> parents, as >> each child was adopted, and i have the names of the persons who adopted >> them. >> The only one I can track is James, who was in the New York Orphan Asylum >> in >> 1910. So I suspect that Dorothy was there, also, but was adopted >> inbetween >> census records. >> Dorothy married an ancestor named Phillip Vollmer. Her adopted father is >> Archibald Haynes. >> >> I am having the worst trouble trying to find any of these children on >> early >> census records, even with the names of the people who adopted them. I >> have been >> working all day for several days, on ancestry, trying diff. ways to >> figure this >> all out. >> >> I can't figure out what happened to the parents, either. >> >> Does anyone have any suggestions? >> >> Would the records of this former asylum be available? >> >> Sue >> Jim Garrity, List Administrator >> jimgarrity@earthlink.net >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Only one hit produced by an exact Ancestry search: SSDI which you may have seen already. Info from the Index follows. Name: Alice Jarvis SSN: 247-70-1472 Last Residence: 29150 Sumter, Sumter, South Carolina, United States of America Born: 24 Feb 1898 Died: Jan 1977 State (Year) SSN issued: South Carolina (1959 ) -------------------------------------------------- From: <patie124@comcast.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 3:56 PM To: <nynewyor-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Death Cert # /Alice Jarvis / > Can someone with Ancestry please see if there is a Death Cert # > for this person? > > > Alice Jarvis > d- Jan 1977 > Sumter, SC > > > thankyou > Pat > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>I am having the worst trouble trying to find any of these children on early census records, even with >the names of the people who adopted them. I have been working all day for several days, on ancestry, >trying diff. ways to figure this all out. >I can't figure out what happened to the parents, either. Sue - Have you tried the Italian Gene website? They have a great index for death certificates that covers that time period, you may be able to find the parents there. Also a index of marriages is there, you may be able to find the parents marriage. Check for the witnesses to the wedding if you order the certificate, often these are family. A sister or brother may have taken in one of the children. The father may not have been able to care the children if something happened to their mother, or they both have died. Thanks, Carol L. Heap Florida