I've "rescued" an old photograph which was taken at the Crispell Studio in Battle Creek, Michigan of a group of students on vacation from Olivet College. The photograph is dated April 3 1876 and includes 6 of the students who were on that trip including: Ella HAZELTON of Hartford, WI Frankie HAZELTON of Hartford, WI Belle MATHER of Detroit, MI May SMITH of Somerset, MI Frank GREEN of Olivet, MI Sherman UPTON of Big Rapids, MI On the back of the photograph the following additional information has been noted about the trip and the people in the photograph: Fred V. GASTON of Burr Oak, MI A. M. FINNIMAS of Lapeer, MI (last name very difficult to read) Members of the "Odette of the Shrug" vacation of '76 Olivet College Always to be remembered Ella HAZELTON married to Carlos W. CHILDS April 24 1878 Frankie HAZELTON married to Mr. BURKE Feb 1879 Belle MATHER married to Frank A. DEAN Nov 10 1880 Frank N. GREEN married to Millie BRELNER Oct 13 1880 Fred Y. GASTON died at his home in Adrian Mar 12 1884 Sherman UPTON died Aug 11 1891 in Lexington NE Based on limited research I was able to locate information regarding those in the photograph and have included that information below: Mary Ella HAZELTON b. 24 Apr 1857 in Richland, MI Frances Ann HAZELTON b. 4 Mar 1859 in Trowbridge Township, MI Both are the daughters of Brooks Bowman HAZELTON (b. 10 May 1829 in Byron, NY) and Sarah Ann LANE (b. 19 Jul 1826 in Ira, NY) Mary Ella married Carlos Webster CHILDS (b. 10 Jun 1856 in NY, NY) on 24 Apr 1878 in Hartford, MI and together they had two children, Edna Ella and Frances Hazelton CHILDS born between 1879 and 1881, both in Whittaker, MI. Mary Ella died 1 May 1941 in Ypsilanti, MI. Helen Belle MATHER b. 7 Jan 1856 in Detroit, MI, the daughter of Francis Parker MATHER (b. 19 Jul 1828 in Pierrepoint, NY) and Helen Maria LORD (b. 29 Nov 1829 in Dearborn, MI). Helen Belle had two siblings, Francis E. and Edward Lord MATHER also born in Detroit, MI between 1853 and 1863. Helen Belle married Frank DEAN (b. about 1855) on 10 Nov 1880 and she died 5 Jan 1942 in Los Angeles, CA. Census records provide the following clues as well: 1860 census of Lawrence, MI: John D. UPTON, age 30, a Lawyer, born NY Julia Ann UPTON, age 24, a Domestic, born NY Sarah UPTON, age 5, born NY Addie UPTON, age 3, born NY Sherman UPTON, age 2, born NY Harriet B. S. UPTON, age 2 months, born MI 1870 census of Decatur, MI: John B. UPTON, age 40, an Attorney at Law, born NY Julia A. UPTON, age 37, Keeping House, born NY Sarah M. UPTON, age 15, Attending School, born NY Addie S. UPTON, age 13, Attending School, born NY Sherman R. UPTON, age 11, Attending School, born NY Harriet B. S. UPTON, age 10, Attending School, born MI Rose M. UPTON, age 8, Attending School, born MI Daniel UPTON, age 6, Attending School, born MI Maria L. UPTON, age 2, born MI LeRoy P. UPTON, age 8 months, born MI Clay SHERMAN, age 26, a Law Student, born NY 1880 census Big Rapids, MI: John B. UPTON, age 50, born NY, a Lawyer, parents born NH/VT Julia A. UPTON, wife, age 47, born NY, Keep House, parents born NY Addie R. UPTON, dau, age 23, born NY, an Artist Sherman UPTON, son, age 22, born NY, at College Hattie B. S. UPTON, dau, age 20, born MI, at Home Rose E. UPTON, dau, age 18, born MI, at School Daniel UPTON, son, age 16, born MI, at Home Maria E. UPTON, dau, age 12, born MI, at School Leroy S. UPTON, son, age 10, born MI, at School George B. UPTON, son, age 8, born MI, at School Frank V. UPTON, son, age 5, born MI 1870 census of Detroit, MI: (living in the home of Eber & Elsie CHURCH) Bell MATHER, age 14, at School, born MI 1880 census of Walton, MI: Frank N. GREEN, age 21, born MI, a Farmer, parents born NY 1900 census of Walton Township, MI: Frank N. GREEN, age 41, born Apr 1859, married 19 years, born MI, parents born NY, an Editor Amelia M. GREEN, wife, age 41, born May 1859, married 19 years, 3 children/2 living, born MI, parents born Scotland/MI Marian B. GREEN, dau, age 15, born Apr 1885, born MI, at School Emma J. GREEN, dau, age 13, born May 1887, born MI, at School Isaac BREBRIAN, father-in-law, age 66, born Aug 1833, a widower, born Scotland, parents born Scotland, to USA 1851, a Farmer 1910 census of Walton Township, MI: Frank N. GREEN, age 51, married 29 years, born MI, parents born NY, a Port Master Amelia GREEN, wife, age 51, married 29 years, 3 children/2 living, born MI, parents born Scotland/MI Amarion GREEN, dau, age 25, born MI Emma GREEN, dau, age 22, born MI Isaac BREBIEN, Father-in-law, age 76, a widower, born Scotland, parents born Scotland, to USA 1866, a School House Janitor 1920 census of Walton Township, MI: Frank N. GREEN, age 60, a widower, born MI, parents born NY, a State Food Inspector Marion GREEN, dau, age 34, born MI Emma GREEN, dau, age 32, born MI, a High School Teacher 1880 census of Litchfield, MI: J. Sheldon SMITH, age 57, born CT, a Harness Manufacturer, parents born CT Elisa SMITH, wife, age 43, born NY, Keeping House, parents born Ireland/NY May SMITH, dau, age 19, born MI, at Home Mary O'NEIL, Mother-in-law, age 78, born NY, at Home, parents born NY I am hoping to be able to return the photograph to one of their families so that this wonderful old treasure can once again become a cherished family possession. If you are a member of one of these families, or if you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

Thankyou everyone for the help!! pat

Seems like you are seeking the passing of someone born 17 Sep 1901/2.... If this is the case there are many data bases available for NYC to search. If you have the person's maiden name perhaps u might be able to find a marriage rexcord. See www.stevemorse.org which contains vital records fopr NYC... Edna Gladys Gaither 12 Mar 1985 Duval 82 Black 17 Sep 1902 Edna Rothstein Rosen 26 Feb 1978 Sarasota 76 White 17 Sep 1901 Exact death dates for others not available. Abv records can be orderded from FL for five dollars each. Would sks that has ancestry please lookup these people for a death day. I found them on SSDeath index ,but does not have the day of death. I would like to have a volunteer lookup obituaries for them but need a day of death first. Edna Coles d--Jan 1980 in Paterson, NJ Edna Rosen d--Feb. 1978 Florida also need a county Edna Labes d--Jan 1982 Buffalo Erie, NY Edna Donahue d--Jul. 1976 Merrick, Nassau, NY Edna Gaither d--March 1985 Jacksonville, Duval, FL George Cone d--Jan. 1973 Suffolk, NY ************** Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

Edna Gladys Gaither 12 Mar 1985 Duval 82 Black 17 Sep 1902 Edna Rothstein Rosen 26 Feb 1978 Sarasota 76 White 17 Sep 1901 Exact death dates for others not available. Abv records can be orderded from FL for five dollars each. Would sks that has ancestry please lookup these people for a death day. I found them on SSDeath index ,but does not have the day of death. I would like to have a volunteer lookup obituaries for them but need a day of death first. Edna Coles d--Jan 1980 in Paterson, NJ Edna Rosen d--Feb. 1978 Florida also need a county Edna Labes d--Jan 1982 Buffalo Erie, NY Edna Donahue d--Jul. 1976 Merrick, Nassau, NY Edna Gaither d--March 1985 Jacksonville, Duval, FL George Cone d--Jan. 1973 Suffolk, NY thankyou pat ************** Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)

Would sks that has ancestry please lookup these people for a death day. I found them on SSDeath index ,but does not have the day of death. I would like to have a volunteer lookup obituaries for them but need a day of death first. Edna Coles d--Jan 1980 in Paterson, NJ Edna Rosen d--Feb. 1978 Florida also need a county Edna Labes d--Jan 1982 Buffalo Erie, NY Edna Donahue d--Jul. 1976 Merrick, Nassau, NY Edna Gaither d--March 1985 Jacksonville, Duval, FL George Cone d--Jan. 1973 Suffolk, NY thankyou pat

Pat, the SSDI at ancestry displays only the month and year of death for deaths prior to 1988. patie124@comcast.net wrote: Would sks that has ancestry please lookup these people for a death day. I found them on SSDeath index ,but does not have the day of death. I would like to have a volunteer lookup obituaries for them but need a day of death first. Edna Coles d--Jan 1980 in Paterson, NJ Edna Rosen d--Feb. 1978 Florida also need a county Edna Labes d--Jan 1982 Buffalo Erie, NY Edna Donahue d--Jul. 1976 Merrick, Nassau, NY Edna Gaither d--March 1985 Jacksonville, Duval, FL George Cone d--Jan. 1973 Suffolk, NY thankyou pat Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Mary Thiele Fobian Genealogical & Historical Research Pacific Grove, California

I've "rescued" an old photograph identified as James STEWART which was taken at the Weller Studio in Palmyra, Wisconsin. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1870's with James likely in his 20's at the time it was taken. Based on limited research I believe that this is a photograph of James A. STEWART b. 28 May 1845 in Elizabeth, New Jersey to parents George STEWART (b. 1817 in Sligo, Ireland) and Roxana Abigail BEACH (b. 1817 from the Bahamas). James married Julia A. CAREY (b. 2 Feb 1849 in New York, NY) on 1 Nov 1866 in Jefferson, WI and together they had 8 children including, Ella Mabel "Belle"; Hattie M.; George Mark; Irvin Lewis; Lenore B.; Elmer J.; Chester R.; and Harry C. STEWART all born between 1869 and 1886 in Jefferson City and River Falls, WI. James died 10 May 1918 in River Falls, WI. Census records provide the following information: 1870 census of Farmington, WI: James STEWART, age 25, a Farmer, born NJ Julia STEWART, age 21, Keeps House, born NY Belle STEWART, age 2, born WI Hattie STEWART, age 1 month, born WI Mary MELCHEN, age 16, a Domestic Servant, born WI Jerry WILLIAMS, age 36, a Farm Laborer, born NY Charles STEWART, age 17, a Farm Laborer, born NJ 1880 census of River Falls, WI: James STEWART, age 35, a Farmer, born NJ, parents born Ireland/West Indies Julia STEWART, wife, age 32, Keeping House, born NY, parents born Ireland Ella Mabell STEWART, dau, age 12, at School, born WI Hattie Maud STEWART, dau, age 9, at School, born WI George Mark STEWART, son, age 7, at School, born WI Louis Irvin STEWART, son, age 4, at Home, born WI Lenore Blanche STEWART, dau, age 2, at Home, born WI 1900 census of River Falls, WI: James STEWART, age 57, born May 1843, married 33 years, born NJ, parents born Ireland/Hawi, a Farmer Julia STEWART, wife, age 51, born Mar 1849, married 33 years, 8 children/8 living, born NY, parents born Ireland Irving STEWART, son, age 24, born July 1876, born WI, a Logger Nora B. STEWART, dau, age 22, born Dec 1877, born WI, at School Elmer J. STEWART, son, age 19, born Nov 1880, born WI, at School Chester R. STEWART, son, age 17, born Jan 1883, born WI, at School Harry C. STEWART, son, age 13, born Aug 1886, born WI, at School 1910 census of River Falls Township, WI: James A. STEWART, age 65, married 43 years, born NJ, parents born Ireland/England, a Farmer Julia A. STEWART, wife, age 61, married 43 years, 9 children/8 living, born NY, parents born Ireland Chester STEWART, son, age 27, born WI, a Home Farm Laborer I am hoping to locate someone from this family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to the care of the family. If you are a member of this family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

Maybe this will help with the dates and the fact that these were removed from this cemetery and gives a couple of names of cemeteries they were moved too. _http://www.marblecemetery.org/intframes4.htm_ (http://www.marblecemetery.org/intframes4.htm) Shirley in Tx In a message dated 4/3/2008 1:30:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, sheilamarcel@smbeer.fsnet.co.uk writes: I have Henry Banker married to Sarah Burkhill (this might be a variation on Van Brackle). Henry died before 1849 and Sarah died 1849 and was buried in vault 36 marble cemetery and then removed to ?? (maybe Green Wood). When Sarah died her obituary mentioned sons Edward Banker and William Everdell. Everdell is my interest and I wondered if anyone knows anything about William. I'd always had him as William Everdell Banker but now I'm wondering if Sarah was married before Henry Banker. I don't have any dates for these people but Sarah was 82 when she died so maybe born c1766 Edward Banker bought vault 36 in Marble cemetery in 1831 and I know that he had 2 sons, James Hopson Banker and Edward Banker jr - no dates for these either Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)

I've "rescued" a group of photographs belonging to the RIEMANN Family of New York City, New York. The first photograph is one of Augusta RIEMANN which was taken at the DeYoung's Studio in New York City. The photograph is dated 1886-1887 and notes that Augusta is about five years old at the time it was taken. The second photograph is one of Fritz RIEMANN and was also taken at the DeYoung's Studio in New York City, this one dated 1885 with Fritz appearing to be in his 40's or 50's at the time it was taken. The third and fourth photographs are the same, photographs identified as Annie RIEMANN which were taken at the Jesse J. Groom Studio in New York City. The photographs appear to have been taken in the 1880's with Annie noted as "born 1883", she would appear to be about 2-3 years old at the time the photograph was taken. Based on limited research I was able to locate the following information regarding this family: Augusta RIEMANN b. 7 Nov 1882 in Manhattan, NY to parents Charles RIEMANN and Lena SCHLEER 1900 census of Manhattan Boro, NY: Kate RIEMANN, age 58, born May 1842, married 31 years, 8 children/5 living, born NY, parents born Germany, a Storekeeper Louisa RIEMANN, dau, born NY ? RIEMANN, son, born NY, a Miner Frank RIEMANN, son, born NY, a Sailor Annie RIEMANN, dau, born NY Tillie RIEMANN, dau, age 16, born Jan 1884, born NY, a Stockgirl Joseph RIEMANN, step-son, age 21, born Feb 1879, born Germany, parents born Germany, to USA 1885, a Conductor Fred RIEMANN, step-son, age 18, born Jun 1882, born Germany, parents born Germany, to USA 1885, a Laborer I am hoping to be able to return these photographs to a member of the family and would appreciate your contacting me if you are a member of this family, or you know someone who might be. Thank you, Shelley

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I've "rescued" two old photograph, both I believe belong to the SEEGER Family of New York City. The first is identified as Gussie SEEGER and was taken at the Fredrick's Studio on Broadway in New York City. The photograph is dated 1890 with Gussie likely in her teens are the time it was taken. The second photograph is not identified, however, it is either of the same girl or a sister as the resemblance is obvious. The second photograph was taken at the Bostwick Studio in New York City with the subject likely in her teens at the time. This photograph was likely taken in the 1880's or 1890's as well. I am hoping to locate someone from this SEEGER Family so that these wonderful old photographs can be returned to their rightful place with family. If you are a member of this family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

I have Henry Banker married to Sarah Burkhill (this might be a variation on Van Brackle). Henry died before 1849 and Sarah died 1849 and was buried in vault 36 marble cemetery and then removed to ?? (maybe Green Wood). When Sarah died her obituary mentioned sons Edward Banker and William Everdell. Everdell is my interest and I wondered if anyone knows anything about William. I'd always had him as William Everdell Banker but now I'm wondering if Sarah was married before Henry Banker. I don't have any dates for these people but Sarah was 82 when she died so maybe born c1766 Edward Banker bought vault 36 in Marble cemetery in 1831 and I know that he had 2 sons, James Hopson Banker and Edward Banker jr - no dates for these either

My response was based on New Jersey experience. My birth certificate has only my name and date of birth and city. There is no reference to my parents. In order to get that I would have go to Trenton for a birth record MIKE maurmike1@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth V Cardinal Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 6:19 PM To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Advice on finding family members 11/21/59? Is this the date of your birth? Does the certificate you have list parents names or anything about them? Does the certificate give an address where the birth took place? What religion did your adoptive parents follow? It might be a clue as to what agency may have handled the adoption. Example, New York Foundling Hospital and so on. I am not sure what a birth cert from the late 50's would show. Ones in the late 60's from Queens County show the mother and fathers name, ages, whether a first child and so on and on. Obviously, a new certificate was issued when the adoption took place. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

11/21/59? Is this the date of your birth? Does the certificate you have list parents names or anything about them? Does the certificate give an address where the birth took place? What religion did your adoptive parents follow? It might be a clue as to what agency may have handled the adoption. Example, New York Foundling Hospital and so on. I am not sure what a birth cert from the late 50's would show. Ones in the late 60's from Queens County show the mother and fathers name, ages, whether a first child and so on and on. Obviously, a new certificate was issued when the adoption took place. Elizabeth V. Cardinal evc1369@comcast.net

I would suggest the NYC dept of health http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/vr/vr.shtml They should have both parents names including maiden name of your mother on record. MIKE -----Original Message----- From: nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of pamela abram Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 4:09 PM To: NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Advice on finding family members Hi All, I am in need of some advice. My mother passed a few years ago and recently my father passed. In going through papers in order to get everything settled I discovered papers stating that I was adopted. I found my real name at birth which is different from my current name. I also have my birth certificate which states that I was born in NYC but it does not list the name of the hospital. Would I be able to find my mother using my original name? Does anyone know how I could do this? Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Pamela NYC, 11/21/59 ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Special deal for Yahoo! users & friends - No Cost. Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text3.com Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, I am in need of some advice. My mother passed a few years ago and recently my father passed. In going through papers in order to get everything settled I discovered papers stating that I was adopted. I found my real name at birth which is different from my current name. I also have my birth certificate which states that I was born in NYC but it does not list the name of the hospital. Would I be able to find my mother using my original name? Does anyone know how I could do this? Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. Pamela NYC, 11/21/59 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Special deal for Yahoo! users & friends - No Cost. Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text3.com

Looking for information about this couple, most specifically any children of this couple. One of their children was EDWARD A. Trying to find out if there was a JULIA as a sibling of Edward. JULIA married JAMES WALKER HAY. Time frame mid to late 1850's or so. Mostly in Manhattan, but some of the family may have lived in Brooklyn then, or later on. Looking back on my notes, all I can find are 'teaser notes." Thank you, Heidi **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

Potters field records may have been destroyed by fire but a death record should still be available from NYC. Thank you for the "heads up on this article." I too searched for a close relative who was buried in 1962 on Hart island. When I called I was told about the fire and loss of records. It is a pity the records were not recorded elsewhere. ************** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15& ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

In a message dated 3/24/2008 11:48:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mlomax1074@gmail.com writes: _http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/nyregion/24hart.html?ref=nyregion_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/nyregion/24hart.html?ref=nyregion) Thank you for the "heads up on this article." I too searched for a close relative who was buried in 1962 on Hart island. When I called I was told about the fire and loss of records. It is a pity the records were not recorded elsewhere. Susan H. **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001)