Liz, New York State does not maintain vital records for New York City. Because Hempstead is in Nassau County, the state is your best bet, but I don't know if the require knowing the town. Bob -------------------------------------------------- From: "Elizabeth Martinez-Gibson" <cosette.58@hotmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 3:50 PM To: <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>; <nynassau@rootsweb.com>; <nynewyor@rootsweb.com>; <nyqueens@rootsweb.com>; <nysuffol@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Does NARA have indexes for 1933 births? > Hi Everyone. > > Does anyone know if NARA'S indexes for vital records for NYS and the five > boroughs has records for 1930s? I decided to send for my uncle's birth > certificate (knowing his date of birth) to the Town of Hempstead, guessing > that he was born in West Hempstead like my mother (since they were only 3 > yrs apart) and I just got a response saying they have no record for him > (another $22 gone). Prior to this I contacted the Village of Hempstead > because there is a very nice lady there who will at least tell you whether > they have the record before you send the fee (that is if you know the > date) and I had no luck there either. The clerk at the T of H said I > should send to Albany. They would have the records for NYS and he five > boroughs. Before I spend another $22+ and wait several months, I thought I > should check the indexes first, so does anyone know if NARA would have > birth indexes for 1933? If so, does anyone do any searches at NARA? > > Thanks, > > Liz > _________________________________________________________________ > Reveal your inner athlete and share it with friends on Windows Live. > http://revealyourinnerathlete.windowslive.com?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WLYIA_whichathlete_us > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

German names beginning with SCH. are traditionally hard to find. Rather than looking for draft records which may be non exustent you may want to consider the W thing. Post what you know/have about a apecific individual and perhaps others may have better luck in identyfying them in various records. Does anyone know if non citizens were not registered for the draft. I am going crazy trying to find the brothers of my g grandfather Peter Scherrer, from Hesse Darmstadt, I can find Peter's family and all of their children's marriages, etc, but I know the names of some brothers who had a funeral business in the middle to late 1800's and I cannot find them on census records, military, all immigration dates don't fit- I am wondering, if since the Hessians were just picked off the street by the Duke, and they escaped to NYC and other places to avoid it, if they just laid low in this country. This is the most confusing family I have tried to figure out. They are in the city directory but finding them on any other record is zero. I have an Adam and a John Adam and I am not quite sure if they are different or one in the same. Sue Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- ************** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

I have a gt grandfather named Peter Scherrer, a blacksmith from Hesse Darmstadt. I can find information on him and his wife Elizabeth, and ther 9 children and grandchildren. Peter and his brothers formed a funeral business called Scherrer Brothers. It is obvious from the city directory which of his brothers were involved. All I can find is the info in the city directories. The first person to show up is John Adam Scherrer in 1847. I believe he is the Adam that can be found who was born in 1829 and died in 1894. He is there off and on and there are even some years when the city directories do not have any Scherrer's spelled any way. Then there is an Adam. He show up more often, and it is hard to tell if he is the same man or a different one. He is not the one that you can consistently find married to a Margareth, all the way up to the 1930 census. There is one time when both are listed in the directory at the same time, both listed at the business and one at the business and the house.Then there is one time when they both are listed at the business but different houses, if I remember correctly. Those two are the ones I can start off with. I think that Adam's wife's name was Mary as she is listed at the same house, one year, as a seamstress. If anyone can find John Adam on anything or Adam, let me know. I still would like to know if non citizens were registered for the draft, as there are some possibilities with naturalization records after the Civil War. Sue

See http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/nycv-lds.html Carmen RICO John W BROOKS married Queens (Bayside) 12/1/1956 Any way to get a certificate number? OR anything to show/prove the marriage? John dying and social security wants marriage proof for Carmen to get benefits! Irene in MD ************** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

I am wondering if some of these people got registered after the civil war to avoid conscription, since that is what they were escaping, as I do find a few naturalization registrations after the civil war- Sue

Does anyone know if non citizens were not registered for the draft. I am going crazy trying to find the brothers of my g grandfather Peter Scherrer, from Hesse Darmstadt, I can find Peter's family and all of their children's marriages, etc, but I know the names of some brothers who had a funeral business in the middle to late 1800's and I cannot find them on census records, military, all immigration dates don't fit- I am wondering, if since the Hessians were just picked off the street by the Duke, and they escaped to NYC and other places to avoid it, if they just laid low in this country. This is the most confusing family I have tried to figure out. They are in the city directory but finding them on any other record is zero. I have an Adam and a John Adam and I am not quite sure if they are different or one in the same. Sue

Hi Everyone. Does anyone know if NARA'S indexes for vital records for NYS and the five boroughs has records for 1930s? I decided to send for my uncle's birth certificate (knowing his date of birth) to the Town of Hempstead, guessing that he was born in West Hempstead like my mother (since they were only 3 yrs apart) and I just got a response saying they have no record for him (another $22 gone). Prior to this I contacted the Village of Hempstead because there is a very nice lady there who will at least tell you whether they have the record before you send the fee (that is if you know the date) and I had no luck there either. The clerk at the T of H said I should send to Albany. They would have the records for NYS and he five boroughs. Before I spend another $22+ and wait several months, I thought I should check the indexes first, so does anyone know if NARA would have birth indexes for 1933? If so, does anyone do any searches at NARA? Thanks, Liz _________________________________________________________________ Reveal your inner athlete and share it with friends on Windows Live. http://revealyourinnerathlete.windowslive.com?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WLYIA_whichathlete_us

Carmen RICO John W BROOKS married Queens (Bayside) 12/1/1956 Any way to get a certificate number? OR anything to show/prove the marriage? John dying and social security wants marriage proof for Carmen to get benefits! Irene in MD

Go to google and type in ""New York Genealogical and Biographical society" and your answer await\s you. From: suemaxwell@comcast.net Reply-to: nynewyor@rootsweb.com To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) Do they still have an online site, after just selling their building and giving all of their books to the NYPL? They used to have HQ, NYTimes, Early American Newspapers, a message board, etc. But They lost the first two and I quit. Sue ************** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

>From time to time I have considered joining the NYGB&S but have not been able to determine what they have on line and if it will help me. Can anyone enlighten me. My interest is Manhattan, Brooklyn and Staten Island. If a subscription will benefit me I will subscribe. I understand that there were some early newspapers. I'm interested in Andrew or William Mackie a shoe manufacturer on B'way or Duane, NYC 1850-1860. I'm also interested in his wife Pamelia/Pamela who died in 1881, Brooklyn Thanks, Bill

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Do they still have an online site, after just selling their building and giving all of their books to the NYPL? They used to have HQ, NYTimes, Early American Newspapers, a message board, etc. But They lost the first two and I quit. Sue -----Original Message----- From: nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:37 AM To: New York New York Subject: [NYNEWYOR] NYGB&S >From time to time I have considered joining the NYGB&S but have not been able to determine what they have on line and if it will help me. Can anyone enlighten me. My interest is Manhattan, Brooklyn and Staten Island. If a subscription will benefit me I will subscribe. I understand that there were some early newspapers. I'm interested in Andrew or William Mackie a shoe manufacturer on B'way or Duane, NYC 1850-1860. I'm also interested in his wife Pamelia/Pamela who died in 1881, Brooklyn Thanks, Bill Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My message came through this time. Sorry Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <billmellsworth@comcast.net> To: <NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com>; <MizScarlettNY@aol.com>

Help. I can't get anyone to pay attention. My messages such as this one don't seem to be getting back to the list. The adimistrator is ignoring me. I am not having trouble with any other list. Help Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <MizScarlettNY@aol.com> To: <NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:44 AM Subject: [NYNEWYOR] WALLACE-PARK-BAXTER 1878 > Interesting to Ex-Minister Schenck > > New York, March 3. In the United States Circuit Court yesterday, Judge > WALLACE denied the motion for a new trial in the action of the Emma Silver > Mining > Company against Trenor W. PARK and J. Henry BAXTER to recover $5,000,000. > The > jury gave a verdict for the two defendants. > > Washington Post > Source: > http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?action=detail&id=51692 > > > > ************** > Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? > Read reviews on AOL Autos. > > (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 > ) > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Interesting to Ex-Minister Schenck New York, March 3. In the United States Circuit Court yesterday, Judge WALLACE denied the motion for a new trial in the action of the Emma Silver Mining Company against Trenor W. PARK and J. Henry BAXTER to recover $5,000,000. The jury gave a verdict for the two defendants. Washington Post Source: http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?action=detail&id=51692 ************** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Marriages -- In the city of New York, on Thursday morning, May 31, by the Rev. Peter WILLIAMS, Jr., Mr. Philip Alexander BELL to Miss Rebecca Elizabeth FENWICK, late of Charleston, South Carolina. -- In New York City, by the Rev. Mr. WILLIAMS, Mr. Joseph TEN EYCK to Miss Catharine JONES, all of New York. -- On the 3d ult. by the Rev. Mr. WILLIAMS, Mr. Abraham CARPENTER of New York to Miss Emeline ELLIAR of Philadelphia. -- On the 8th ult. by the Rev. Mr. HEYBURN, Mr. Martin M. GALCIER of South America, to Miss Susan EDWARDS of New York. from The Liberator Source: http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?action=detail&id=56677 ************** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

William DURREM runaway Irish servant from: The New York Weekly Journal http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?action=detail&id=56703 ************** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

New York. June 8. Capt. William LEACRAFT of this city of New York, being in perfect health (to all appearance) yesterday about sun set, sitting along with two or three of his friends, dropt from his seat, and died without speaking a word, to the great grief and loss of his wife and children, and surprize of all his neighbours, among whom he had a good report. >From New England http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?action=detail&id=56730 ************** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

Butler-Baldwin. On Monday, Oct 10, by the Rev. William P. CORBIT, James BUTLER, Esq., to Mrs. Emma L. BALDWIN, all of this city. Doughty-Sherman. On Tuesday, October 4, by the Rev. Dr. William S. HALL, John DOUGHTY to Miss Cornelia SHERMAN, both of Williamsburg, L.I. Ingraham-Coleman. On Friday evening, October 7th at the residence of the bride's father, by the Rev. Mr. HAVEN, Dr. T. M. INGRAHAM of Brooklyn to Anna E. COLEMAN, daughter of George COLEMAN of this city. At the same time and place, according to the order of the Society of Friends, Charles S. BUNKER, of Brooklyn to Ann Eliza COLEMAN, daughter of Abraham B. COLEMAN of Cincinnati. Source: http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?action=detail&id=56823 ************** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )

List of Surnames from Oct 11 1859 ATKINSON BOWNE CAMPBELL ETIENE EGINTON GAMBLE GORDON GRACE MAGUIRE MOSEMAN McGOVRIN HANDSCHUCH HAWES HOGAN HUNTER KRUFFEN KUHLMANN LIVINGSTON MORRIS McCARTIN MULLEN TEN EYCK TRUJILLO VAN VORST VERPLANCK WILKENS WICKES Source: http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?action=detail&id=56826 ************** Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )