So what does this tell me? The John Brady I sent you was the only professional. He was a judge in 1870, a lawyer in 1880. All the rest were tradesmen. No undertakers or doctors ----- Original Message ----- From: <MizScarlettNY@aol.com> To: <NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 7:23 PM Subject: [NYNEWYOR] NYS: COUNTY CORONER > Each county in New York except the five boroughs of NYC has a County > Coroner > elected for four years (except Chautauqua County...only county with an > appointed coroner), and counties can set the number of coroners up to > four, and areas > maybe divided into coroner's districts. > > In the five boroughs of NYC, they began appointing Medical Examiner's > who are capable of performing autopsies. But, this was not the historical > precedent. > > There are no NYS required credentials for the position of County Coroner. > Often this position was a political appointment, or held by a private > undertaker. > > > [condensed from various sources] > > Barb > > > ************** > It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your > travel deal here. > > (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) > > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Also possible to be a Funeral Director. Here in Quakertown, the coroner is a local Funeral Director. Not sure if elected or appointed. Pat C.

Scottish nicknames are very different also. I have an ancestor who's given name was Alexander but his nickname was Sandy. Here in the US a nickname often sounds like our given name like Will for William or Billy or Bill. But for the Scottish the name is totally different than their given name. In the US especially in the New England States I find nicknames are a little different also. My grandmother's given name was Pearl but her nickname was Pet. Her niece's given name is Grace but her nickname is Tootsie. My husband's uncles name was Everett his nickname was Beb. Who knows where they get it from? :) Joan

BILL, YOU MENTIONED 1857, WHICH IS WHY I SEARCHED NATZ RECORDS. PLEASE EXCUSE & READ CAPS >>>>> > Barb, > This is who I'm looking for. Now the question is could he have been a > coroner? ACCORDING TO PAST PRACTICE IN NYC,YES.HE WORKED IN CITY HALL. Was it necessary for him to have been a physician? NO. RESEARCH SHOWS THAT HISTORICALLY "CORONER" WAS A POLITICAL TITLE, WHETHER APPOINTED OR ELECTED. A CORONER COULD HAVE MEDICAL EXAMINERS PERFORM "HANDS ON" WORK. SOUNDS LIKE BRADY WAS OF THE TAMMANY HALL ERA...MANY APPOINTED POSITIONS. THIS IS WHAT PROMPTED TODAY'S CIVIL SERVICE EXAMINATIONS FOR CIVIL JOBS> TO AVOID CRONYISM. BARB I found no> coroners or physicians named John Brady. > John R. Brady was born in NY so I think the nauralization is off. > Bill ************** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

Each county in New York except the five boroughs of NYC has a County Coroner elected for four years (except Chautauqua County...only county with an appointed coroner), and counties can set the number of coroners up to four, and areas maybe divided into coroner's districts. In the five boroughs of NYC, they began appointing Medical Examiner's who are capable of performing autopsies. But, this was not the historical precedent. There are no NYS required credentials for the position of County Coroner. Often this position was a political appointment, or held by a private undertaker. [condensed from various sources] Barb ************** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

Barb, This is who I'm looking for. Now the question is could he have been a coroner? Was it necessary for him to have been a physician? I found no coroners or physicians named John Brady. John R. Brady was born in NY so I think the nauralization is off. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <MizScarlettNY@aol.com> To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] need help, eyes & opinion John Brady 1870 NYC > Is this your guy? > > Directories NY, NY > BRADY, John R. lawyer > > Naturalization= 1857* > BRADY, John > Natz Date Oct 3,1857 > HomeAddress: 13th Street, NY City > Volume 182; Copy of Record: 32 > Witness: Patrick RIELLY,10th Street, NY City > > * BRADY & RIELLY were each other's witnesses on the same day, in the Court > of > Common Pleas,NY County. > > There are others named John BRADY naturalized the same year. > > Inthe 1860s there are listings for a John R. BRADY who was simultanously a > lawyer and a judge at City Hall, at nepoint in the Ct. of Common Pleas. > > [My AOL shut off and I lost what Icut and pasted.] > > Barb > N of NYC > > > > billmellsworth@comcast.net writes: > > >> I'm searching for John Brady a NYC coroner. >> >> 1. Will someone look at John Brady abt 1837 Ward 8 District 8; I can not >> make out his occupation. >> >> 2. I found a John Brady, a judge, abt 1830 Ward 21 Dist 20; could a >> judge >> be a coroner or vice versa? >> >> Bill >> >> > > > > > > ************** > It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel > deal here. > > (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) > > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is this your guy? Directories NY, NY BRADY, John R. lawyer Naturalization= 1857* BRADY, John Natz Date Oct 3,1857 HomeAddress: 13th Street, NY City Volume 182; Copy of Record: 32 Witness: Patrick RIELLY,10th Street, NY City * BRADY & RIELLY were each other's witnesses on the same day, in the Court of Common Pleas,NY County. There are others named John BRADY naturalized the same year. Inthe 1860s there are listings for a John R. BRADY who was simultanously a lawyer and a judge at City Hall, at nepoint in the Ct. of Common Pleas. [My AOL shut off and I lost what Icut and pasted.] Barb N of NYC billmellsworth@comcast.net writes: > I'm searching for John Brady a NYC coroner. > > 1. Will someone look at John Brady abt 1837 Ward 8 District 8; I can not > make out his occupation. > > 2. I found a John Brady, a judge, abt 1830 Ward 21 Dist 20; could a judge > be a coroner or vice versa? > > Bill > > ************** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

If memory serves, I think that coroners had to be elected, like a judge, so it is probable/possible that they were one and the same person. I also think that in some areas today coroners are still elected. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <billmellsworth@comcast.net> To: "New York New York" <nynewyor@rootsweb.com>; <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com>; <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>; <nykings@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:43 PM Subject: [NYNEWYOR] need help, eyes & opinion John Brady 1870 NYC > I'm searching for John Brady a NYC coroner. > > 1. Will someone look at John Brady abt 1837 Ward 8 District 8; I can not > make out his occupation. > > 2. I found a John Brady, a judge, abt 1830 Ward 21 Dist 20; could a judge > be a coroner or vice versa? > > Bill > > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Which year census are we looking at? Gabriele ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill To: New York New York ; nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com ; nyc-roots@rootsweb.com ; nykings@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:43 PM Subject: [NYNEWYOR] need help, eyes & opinion John Brady 1870 NYC I'm searching for John Brady a NYC coroner. 1. Will someone look at John Brady abt 1837 Ward 8 District 8; I can not make out his occupation. 2. I found a John Brady, a judge, abt 1830 Ward 21 Dist 20; could a judge be a coroner or vice versa? Bill ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm searching for John Brady a NYC coroner. 1. Will someone look at John Brady abt 1837 Ward 8 District 8; I can not make out his occupation. 2. I found a John Brady, a judge, abt 1830 Ward 21 Dist 20; could a judge be a coroner or vice versa? Bill

Recently, the topic of nicknames came up around the names Hugh, Cornelius, and Bernard; all of these are commonly found in Irish records. Even in formal BMD records, nicknames were often used, causing confusion for researchers. Bernard> Barney, Bern/Bernie Cornelius > Neil/Neely,Corny/Cor, Con/Connie Hubert > Hugh/Hugo, Bert Source: http://www.tngenweb.org/franklin/frannick.htm ================ Irish Nicknames http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/6587/Irname.html Jewish Given Names http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/GivenNames/ Italian Given Names & English Equivalents http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/8783/givename.html Cyndi's List and Names http://www.cyndislist.com/names.htm ************** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

It was nicknames in one of my German line families that helped me to identify someone in a photo. My grandmother's first photo album is labeled. Her mother's parents were German and French and their family all had nicknames. Mary was May; Barbara was Tot or Etta; Ann was Annie; Evangeline was Eva; Edward Louis was Lou; and the mysterious youth, Gill, in the photo that always included May and Eva (sisters), turned out to be, by my deduction, her son William. It finally dawned on me, because Etta was never married and lived with us for most of her life; when I discovered that her real name was Barbara, and then looked at all of the nicknames in that family, and noticed the Gill was always in the photo with May and her sister ( my g grandmother), Eva, it suddenly dawned on me that that was her son William; Evangeline's father was German and mother French/German ( Alsace Lorraine). Her father, Peter, had brothers that came here about the same time. It was very confusing to see a John Adam at an address in the city directory , one year, and an Adam the next year at the same address, and when they had a business to see both of them listed together,, until I went onto the Hesse list and found out that Germans used their second name, rather than their first- so they were one in the same! And because they were escaping a revolution, they kept a low profile until after the Civil War- they are in the directories, but not on records until after that war, and wait until after the war to become citizens. Sue

I thought so too! In a message dated 8/29/2008 5:08:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ngharkey@sbcglobal.net writes: WOW, that was rude Gabriele ----- Original Message ----- From: Ilse Flick To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] SS# Lookup for Paul John Berger It's Mecklenburg not Mecklenberg. No wonder you can't find anything you can t read ! I. Flick not Fleck or Flack -------Original Message------- From: Date: 8/28/2008 7:34:02 PM To: nybronx@rootsweb.com; nyc-roots@rootsweb.com; nynewyor@rootsweb.com; nynassau@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYNEWYOR] SS# Lookup for Paul John Berger Can someone find a Social Security # for Paul John Berger born 14 Jun 1910 in Mecklenberg, VA died 16 Jun 1948. I am almost positive his last place of residence was NY,NY Any help will be greatly appreciated. I am trying to get military records and they have asked me for more information. Thanks, Liz _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

More datasets have been added. Total to date: Will Records 309,550 Probate Cases/Estates/Surrogates - 8393 records (Quick explanation about Cases/Estates/Surrogates - these are the cases including those who have NO wills but are quite detailed, including heirs as well as guardianships, incompetents, invalids.) New York: Otsego 1887-1889 (2 vols) New York 1828-1835 (1 vol) Orange 1849-1851 (1 vol) Albany 1869-1871 (1 vol) Virginia: Frederick 1752-1770 (2 vols) Michigan: Alcona 1892-1900 (completed) Chippewa 1896-1897 Oregon: Benton 1850-1887 Wisconsin Waupaca 1856-1930 - completed Pennsylvania Adams 1852-1854 Fulton 1850-1937 surnames A-Jo only see all at http://www.sampubco.com/ More datasets coming up over the weekend. W. David Samuelsen SAMPUBCO

More datasets have been added. Total to date: Will Records 309,550 Probate Cases/Estates/Surrogates - 8393 records (Quick explanation about Cases/Estates/Surrogates - these are the cases including those who have NO wills but are quite detailed, including heirs as well as guardianships, incompetents, invalids.) New York: Otsego 1887-1889 (2 vols) New York 1828-1835 (1 vol) Orange 1849-1851 (1 vol) Albany 1869-1871 (1 vol) Virginia: Frederick 1752-1770 (2 vols) Michigan: Alcona 1892-1900 (completed) Chippewa 1896-1897 Oregon: Benton 1850-1887 Wisconsin Waupaca 1856-1930 - completed Pennsylvania Adams 1852-1854 Fulton 1850-1937 surnames A-Jo only see all at http://www.sampubco.com/ More datasets coming up over the weekend. W. David Samuelsen SAMPUBCO

I didn't know this, priceless information, thank you Mark! Gabriele ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Lomax To: cosette.58@hotmail.com Cc: nyqueens@rootsweb.com ; nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com ; nynewyor@rootsweb.com ; nyc-roots@rootsweb.com ; nykings@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 11:14 PM Subject: [NYNEWYOR] World War I Service Records World War I enlistment records, which are not the same as WWI draft registration cards, are not available online. While WWI enlistment records are not available online, there is an alternative. After WWI, the War and Navy departments created service summary cards for every WWI veteran. The cards were turned over to the state adjutant general of the state where the veteran was living at the time he entered the service. New York's WWI service cards are held by the New York State Archives in Albany. You can obtain a copy of a WWI veteran's service card for $1 from the state archives. The cards contain such information as induction and discharge dates and military serial number. A description of the cards is located at this link: http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/research/res_topics_mi_wwi_military.shtml#b0808 Here's a link to the New York State Archives order form for WWI service summary cards: http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/research/res_topics_mi_warsvc_form.shtml To see a sample of the WWI service summary cards, go to the web site of the Florida State Archives, which has scanned and posted on the Internet images of its WWI service cards; here's a link: http://www.floridamemory.com/Collections/WWI/ Bear in mind cards were created only for men who actually served in WWI. Mark Lomax California

Did you forget to take your nice pill today? This is extremely rude and uncalled for!!!! If you don't want to help DON"T,but don't be rude! > Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:07:28 -0500> From: IFlick@swbell.net> To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] SS# Lookup for Paul John Berger> > It's Mecklenburg not Mecklenberg. No wonder you can't find anything you can> t read ! > > I. Flick not Fleck or Flack > > -------Original Message-------> > From: > Date: 8/28/2008 7:34:02 PM> To: nybronx@rootsweb.com; nyc-roots@rootsweb.com; nynewyor@rootsweb.com; > nynassau@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NYNEWYOR] SS# Lookup for Paul John Berger> > Can someone find a Social Security # for Paul John Berger born 14 Jun 1910> in Mecklenberg, VA> died 16 Jun 1948. I am almost positive his last place of residence was NY,NY> > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. I am trying to get military records> and they have asked me for more information.> > Thanks,> > Liz> _________________________________________________________________> Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with> Windows®.> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/> > > *************************************> Jim Garrity, List Administrator> jimgarrity@earthlink.net> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > *************************************> Jim Garrity, List Administrator> jimgarrity@earthlink.net> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/

>Would some kind soul lookup John Frederick Heine's military > enlistment. He served during WWI enlisted 1917. He was born Mar 25 > 1900in Rocky Point,NY and died in Mar 1971 in Franklin Sq,NY. He's > buried in L.I. National Cem. I sent for military records, but they > want more info: Service #, date released, place of enlistment, type > of assignment. > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Liz Liz: World War I enlistment records, which are not the same as WWI draft registration cards, are not available online. While WWI enlistment records are not available online, there is an alternative. After WWI, the War and Navy departments created service summary cards for every WWI veteran. The cards were turned over to the state adjutant general of the state where the veteran was living at the time he entered the service. New York's WWI service cards are held by the New York State Archives in Albany. You can obtain a copy of a WWI veteran's service card for $1 from the state archives. The cards contain such information as induction and discharge dates and military serial number. A description of the cards is located at this link: http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/research/res_topics_mi_wwi_military.shtml#b0808 Here's a link to the New York State Archives order form for WWI service summary cards: http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/research/res_topics_mi_warsvc_form.shtml To see a sample of the WWI service summary cards, go to the web site of the Florida State Archives, which has scanned and posted on the Internet images of its WWI service cards; here's a link: http://www.floridamemory.com/Collections/WWI/ Bear in mind cards were created only for men who actually served in WWI. Mark Lomax California

WOW, that was rude Gabriele ----- Original Message ----- From: Ilse Flick To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] SS# Lookup for Paul John Berger It's Mecklenburg not Mecklenberg. No wonder you can't find anything you can t read ! I. Flick not Fleck or Flack -------Original Message------- From: Date: 8/28/2008 7:34:02 PM To: nybronx@rootsweb.com; nyc-roots@rootsweb.com; nynewyor@rootsweb.com; nynassau@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYNEWYOR] SS# Lookup for Paul John Berger Can someone find a Social Security # for Paul John Berger born 14 Jun 1910 in Mecklenberg, VA died 16 Jun 1948. I am almost positive his last place of residence was NY,NY Any help will be greatly appreciated. I am trying to get military records and they have asked me for more information. Thanks, Liz _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's Mecklenburg not Mecklenberg. No wonder you can't find anything you can t read ! I. Flick not Fleck or Flack -------Original Message------- From: Date: 8/28/2008 7:34:02 PM To: nybronx@rootsweb.com; nyc-roots@rootsweb.com; nynewyor@rootsweb.com; nynassau@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYNEWYOR] SS# Lookup for Paul John Berger Can someone find a Social Security # for Paul John Berger born 14 Jun 1910 in Mecklenberg, VA died 16 Jun 1948. I am almost positive his last place of residence was NY,NY Any help will be greatly appreciated. I am trying to get military records and they have asked me for more information. Thanks, Liz _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message