Who are the foreigner's .....Waht info do you have to support this. When you go onto ancestry and find a name, the first page you bring up is a summary of what is on the census; then you look at the census; foreigners have been hired to translate these names and it is now getting to be the worst mess. They list them out of order, get names wrong, leave out names, misspell names, you name it and they do it-this makes it harder to find families if they have some totally different spelling. Some must be readers from right to left, as some of the names are being listed backwards from what they are on the list. I live near ancestry and I may go over there and tell them that they can't keep up making changes as fast as the mistakes are being made. It is getting worse each week. You can send in corrections, but I amsending in as many corrections, nearly, as I am finding records. Sue ************** Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

What does that mean ?? Ancenstry has out sourced the data for iincorporation into census records and the index to India, Pakistan, or Bangledesh. ?? these foreigners who are translating census names for ancestry When you use the non exact part it brings up every kind of spelling. This is the only person I can't find records on. Either they were not on the census, for some reason, or these foreigners who are translating census names for ancestry are making it harder to find things. I send in corrections daily. Sue ( you would be surprised at how off they can get) ************** Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Have you tried different spellings of Van Cleft or even just Cleft or Kleft, Etc, etc.? Sometimes you have to get very creative in searching. Diane Jacobs Somerset, NJ -----Original Message----- From: nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Maxwell Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 7:50 PM To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYNEWYOR] lookup I have been trying to find Charles Van Cleft 1842-1902 ( New York) and his wife Bessie Josephine Lawrence on any census record on ancestry and all I can find is his birth and death; if anyone has Heritage Quest- could you give it a try? Thanks, Sue ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The same ones you talk to when you need your computer fixed; I know people at ancestry and I know what I am talking about, Bob. Sue (discussion ended) -----Original Message----- From: nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bbokken@aol.com Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 11:01 AM To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] lookup Who are the foreigner's .....Waht info do you have to support this. When you go onto ancestry and find a name, the first page you bring up is a summary of what is on the census; then you look at the census; foreigners have been hired to translate these names and it is now getting to be the worst mess. They list them out of order, get names wrong, leave out names, misspell names, you name it and they do it-this makes it harder to find families if they have some totally different spelling. Some must be readers from right to left, as some of the names are being listed backwards from what they are on the list. I live near ancestry and I may go over there and tell them that they can't keep up making changes as fast as the mistakes are being made. It is getting worse each week. You can send in corrections, but I amsending in as many corrections, nearly, as I am finding records. Sue ************** Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When you go onto ancestry and find a name, the first page you bring up is a summary of what is on the census; then you look at the census; foreigners have been hired to translate these names and it is now getting to be the worst mess. They list them out of order, get names wrong, leave out names, misspell names, you name it and they do it-this makes it harder to find families if they have some totally different spelling. Some must be readers from right to left, as some of the names are being listed backwards from what they are on the list. I live near ancestry and I may go over there and tell them that they can't keep up making changes as fast as the mistakes are being made. It is getting worse each week. You can send in corrections, but I amsending in as many corrections, nearly, as I am finding records. Sue

When you use the non exact part it brings up every kind of spelling. This is the only person I can't find records on. Either they were not on the census, for some reason, or these foreigners who are translating census names for ancestry are making it harder to find things. I send in corrections daily. Sue ( you would be surprised at how off they can get) -----Original Message----- From: nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diane Jacobs Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 9:31 AM To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] lookup Have you tried different spellings of Van Cleft or even just Cleft or Kleft, Etc, etc.? Sometimes you have to get very creative in searching. Diane Jacobs Somerset, NJ -----Original Message----- From: nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Maxwell Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 7:50 PM To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYNEWYOR] lookup I have been trying to find Charles Van Cleft 1842-1902 ( New York) and his wife Bessie Josephine Lawrence on any census record on ancestry and all I can find is his birth and death; if anyone has Heritage Quest- could you give it a try? Thanks, Sue ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been trying to find Charles Van Cleft 1842-1902 ( New York) and his wife Bessie Josephine Lawrence on any census record on ancestry and all I can find is his birth and death; if anyone has Heritage Quest- could you give it a try? Thanks, Sue

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Dear Sir, I'll just bet you coined the phrase "BAH HUMBUG". As a child when I learned my prayers, I said "God Bless Everyone" I still say it, and I don't "know" you! -----Original Message----- From: nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Leonard Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 1:23 PM To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] NYNEWYOR Digest, Vol 3, Issue 140 WHAT?? Where does this drivel come from? Nothing better to do than to think about someone we don't know @ noon! On 10/1/08 12:01 AM, "nynewyor-request@rootsweb.com" <nynewyor-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. list members (MizScarlettNY@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:43:16 EDT > From: MizScarlettNY@aol.com > Subject: [NYNEWYOR] list members > To: NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com, NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cff.401259fe.36144bd4@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Dear Genie Friends, > > I have received so many emails, just in the past week or so, where list > members, their spouses, or family members are facing some medical challenges > that > are frightening to them. > > While we share this wonderful hobby researching our ancestors, at times > members find comfort expressing their living pain, to a stranger, offlist. We > need > to consider that we don't really know what someone is struggling with, when we > feel impatient. > > Please think of these folks at noon each day. Send out your strong genie > vibes, prayers, or whatever is appropriate for you. > > Barbara > > > ************** > Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips > and calculators. > (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NYNEWYOR list administrator, send an email to > NYNEWYOR-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NYNEWYOR mailing list, send an email to > NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NYNEWYOR Digest, Vol 3, Issue 140 > **************************************** ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

WHAT?? Where does this drivel come from? Nothing better to do than to think about someone we don't know @ noon! On 10/1/08 12:01 AM, "nynewyor-request@rootsweb.com" <nynewyor-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. list members (MizScarlettNY@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:43:16 EDT > From: MizScarlettNY@aol.com > Subject: [NYNEWYOR] list members > To: NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com, NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cff.401259fe.36144bd4@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Dear Genie Friends, > > I have received so many emails, just in the past week or so, where list > members, their spouses, or family members are facing some medical challenges > that > are frightening to them. > > While we share this wonderful hobby researching our ancestors, at times > members find comfort expressing their living pain, to a stranger, offlist. We > need > to consider that we don't really know what someone is struggling with, when we > feel impatient. > > Please think of these folks at noon each day. Send out your strong genie > vibes, prayers, or whatever is appropriate for you. > > Barbara > > > ************** > Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips > and calculators. > (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NYNEWYOR list administrator, send an email to > NYNEWYOR-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NYNEWYOR mailing list, send an email to > NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NYNEWYOR Digest, Vol 3, Issue 140 > ****************************************

Dear Genie Friends, I have received so many emails, just in the past week or so, where list members, their spouses, or family members are facing some medical challenges that are frightening to them. While we share this wonderful hobby researching our ancestors, at times members find comfort expressing their living pain, to a stranger, offlist. We need to consider that we don't really know what someone is struggling with, when we feel impatient. Please think of these folks at noon each day. Send out your strong genie vibes, prayers, or whatever is appropriate for you. Barbara ************** Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

Yes, I have also found Mckee, Mack and Makie for this family Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roisin Lafferty" <laffertyd@eircom.net> To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: [NYNEWYOR] spelling > could be Mackey?? > > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Tom, I did say that I would like the articles on Lemuel Beebe. Have you forgotten to send it on? Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kemp" <thomas.j.kemp@gmail.com> To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Census lookup 1850 perhaps NYC > It's a great day for genealogy isn't it!! > > > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Janet Truncali > <truncali@warwick.net>wrote: > >> Tom, >> Thanks so much, so much, for giving the group the web page address for >> family search. >> I have knocked down several brick walls in the last few days. I really >> cannot believe it. >> Again, Thank you, >> Janet >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tom Kemp" <thomas.j.kemp@gmail.com> >> To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:44 PM >> Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Census lookup 1850 perhaps NYC >> >> >> > HeritageQuest Online doesn't have an index to the 1850 Census. >> > >> > But, you can also look up the 1850 census free at FamilySearchLabs.org >> > They have 1850, 1860, 1870, 1880, 1900 and a lot more. >> > See: http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=4 >> > >> > There are two Lemuel BEEBE's listed. >> > 1850. CT Fairfield County. Danbury - page 88A >> > Lemuel Beebe: age 57 - farmer - born: CT >> > Johanna " " : age 58 - born CT >> > Hannah Seeley - age 48 born CT >> > Wm. Sherman - age 28 born CT >> > Richard Turkington - age 23 born CT >> > >> > 1850. PA. Susquehanna County. Bridgewater: No occupation given. >> > Lemuel Beebe, age: blank; born NY >> > Affarina " " age: blank; born: Mass >> > >> > I also found several articles on Lemuel Beebe of Danbury, CT in >> > www.GenealogyBank.com <http://www.genealogybank.com/> < >> http://www.genealogybank.com/> >> > Let me know if you'd like those. >> > >> > Tom >> > >> > Thomas Jay Kemp >> > Thomas.J.Kemp@gmail.com >> > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Bill <billmellsworth@comcast.net> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Could someone who has access to HQ do two 1850 census lookups for me? >> >> >> >> I'm looking for Lemuel Beebe a silversmith and William or Andrew or AW >> >> Mackie a shoe manufacturer. They should be in Manhattan but not >> >> necessarily >> >> so. I can not locate them with Ancestry. >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Bill >> >> >> > > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's a great day for genealogy isn't it!! On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:16 PM, Janet Truncali <truncali@warwick.net>wrote: > Tom, > Thanks so much, so much, for giving the group the web page address for > family search. > I have knocked down several brick walls in the last few days. I really > cannot believe it. > Again, Thank you, > Janet > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Kemp" <thomas.j.kemp@gmail.com> > To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:44 PM > Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Census lookup 1850 perhaps NYC > > > > HeritageQuest Online doesn't have an index to the 1850 Census. > > > > But, you can also look up the 1850 census free at FamilySearchLabs.org > > They have 1850, 1860, 1870, 1880, 1900 and a lot more. > > See: http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=4 > > > > There are two Lemuel BEEBE's listed. > > 1850. CT Fairfield County. Danbury - page 88A > > Lemuel Beebe: age 57 - farmer - born: CT > > Johanna " " : age 58 - born CT > > Hannah Seeley - age 48 born CT > > Wm. Sherman - age 28 born CT > > Richard Turkington - age 23 born CT > > > > 1850. PA. Susquehanna County. Bridgewater: No occupation given. > > Lemuel Beebe, age: blank; born NY > > Affarina " " age: blank; born: Mass > > > > I also found several articles on Lemuel Beebe of Danbury, CT in > > www.GenealogyBank.com <http://www.genealogybank.com/> < > http://www.genealogybank.com/> > > Let me know if you'd like those. > > > > Tom > > > > Thomas Jay Kemp > > Thomas.J.Kemp@gmail.com > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Bill <billmellsworth@comcast.net> > wrote: > > > >> Could someone who has access to HQ do two 1850 census lookups for me? > >> > >> I'm looking for Lemuel Beebe a silversmith and William or Andrew or AW > >> Mackie a shoe manufacturer. They should be in Manhattan but not > >> necessarily > >> so. I can not locate them with Ancestry. > >> > >> Thanks in advance, > >> Bill > >> >

Tom, Thanks so much, so much, for giving the group the web page address for family search. I have knocked down several brick walls in the last few days. I really cannot believe it. Again, Thank you, Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kemp" <thomas.j.kemp@gmail.com> To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] Census lookup 1850 perhaps NYC > HeritageQuest Online doesn't have an index to the 1850 Census. > > But, you can also look up the 1850 census free at FamilySearchLabs.org > They have 1850, 1860, 1870, 1880, 1900 and a lot more. > See: http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=4 > > There are two Lemuel BEEBE's listed. > 1850. CT Fairfield County. Danbury - page 88A > Lemuel Beebe: age 57 - farmer - born: CT > Johanna " " : age 58 - born CT > Hannah Seeley - age 48 born CT > Wm. Sherman - age 28 born CT > Richard Turkington - age 23 born CT > > 1850. PA. Susquehanna County. Bridgewater: No occupation given. > Lemuel Beebe, age: blank; born NY > Affarina " " age: blank; born: Mass > > I also found several articles on Lemuel Beebe of Danbury, CT in > www.GenealogyBank.com <http://www.genealogybank.com/> > Let me know if you'd like those. > > Tom > > Thomas Jay Kemp > Thomas.J.Kemp@gmail.com > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Bill <billmellsworth@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Could someone who has access to HQ do two 1850 census lookups for me? >> >> I'm looking for Lemuel Beebe a silversmith and William or Andrew or AW >> Mackie a shoe manufacturer. They should be in Manhattan but not >> necessarily >> so. I can not locate them with Ancestry. >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Bill >> >> >> ************************************* >> Jim Garrity, List Administrator >> jimgarrity@earthlink.net >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

could be Mackey??

Hi Laura, I have all the other census records, city directories, bcs, dcs and all information AFTER 1859 on this family. I know of his 27 Aug1833 immigration from Scotland and about the g parents, parents and siblings he left behind in Scotland. I do not have his naturalization record but suspect it may be: 8 Nov 1842 naturalization record for William Magee ( NY Co. Common Pleas 39-1) witness: Lemuel D. Beebe. Unfortunately Lemuel D. Beebe is also unavailable in 1850. I could not find a Mackie will at the Brooklyn courthouse. I do not have the 1844 or 1853 bcs for his sons Licurgis Mackie and William Hall Mackie I need to make a connection to the Beebe family which is why I have looked so hard for the 1850 census. Pamela Beebe's parents remain a mystery after 5 + years of searching I know they were in Brooklyn after 1859 because this is where the family settled around Sumner Ave. The Mackie family is in a 16 member plot at the Evergreens cemetery. Thanks for replying. I promise to keep all replies on list so that those that can help me will know where it stands; unfortunately I have not done this in the past. Bill

Bill, Why don't you tell the list where you have already found this family (ie, in 1840, 1860, 1870, etc.); where you've looked that you haven't found them; and why you think they were in NYC/Brooklyn in 1850? Also, do you have any immigration and/or naturalization info for the father? Laura > From: Bill <billmellsworth@comcast.net> > Reply-To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> > Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 00:50:39 -0400 > To: New York New York <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [NYNEWYOR] help on 1850 census > > I have searched for William or Andrew Mackie on the 1850 census for years and > would appreciate any help. You would think this family would be easy to find > but that hasn't been the case. I assumed that they would be in Manhattan or > Brooklyn but that might not be so. > > William/Andrew Mackie b. 1810 Scotland, a shoemaker > Pamela, Amelia b. 1804 Vermont/Connecticut > Liscurgis/Sicurgis b. 1844 New York > > Thanks, > Bill

Hi Gabriel The NYC 1837 marriage you found is correct. 1838 NYC William Mackie bootmaker 236 Canal, NYC 1839/1840 William Mackie shoemaker, 236 Canal, NYC home 349 Hudson, NYC 1839/1840 & 1840/1841 Andrew M'Kee, shoemaker, 138 Laurens, NYC (I believe this one is incorrect) I found both William Mackie and Andrew M'kee on the 1840 NYC census The next time he turns up is 1850 Mackie, William (no occupation) 304 Grand, Brooklyn (not found on census) 1859/1860 Mackie, Wm, shoemanuf. 19 Flushing, Brooklyn 1860 census Brooklyn AW Mackie, 49,shoe manufacturer, Scotland, Brooklyn WD 9 Dist 1 1861/1862 Mackie, AW 10 Flushing, Brooklyn 1864/1865 Mackie, Andrew clerk, Flushing and B'way, Brooklyn 1865/1866 Mackie, Andrew W. Manuf. B'way NY, h Flushing Ave. n B'way Brooklyn 1966/ Mackey, AW, shoes, B'way c. Reed (sp Reade), NY, h 19 Flushing, brooklyn and so on My object is to tie Andrew/ William Mackie's wife to a Beebe family ( also found as,Bebee,Beebee, Bube) Thanks for replying Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriele Harkey" <ngharkey@sbcglobal.net> To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] help on 1850 census > Hi Bill, > > What years have you located them in records and where? > > I see a marriage in 1837 in NYC, Pamela Beebe and William Mackie, I am > guessing that is them? > > 1857 there is an Andrew Mackey in the NYC directories as a merchant, on > 64 > Pearl, home in Brooklyn but that's way too vague to assume anything yet. > > Gabriele > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill > To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 9:25 AM > Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] help on 1850 census > > > Diane, > > BTW Actually, I located that address (304 Grand) on the 1850 census > and checked the whole area a few city blocks in each direction page by > page. > No Luck > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill" <billmellsworth@comcast.net> > To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 9:15 AM > Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] help on 1850 census > > > > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bill, What years have you located them in records and where? I see a marriage in 1837 in NYC, Pamela Beebe and William Mackie, I am guessing that is them? 1857 there is an Andrew Mackey in the NYC directories as a merchant, on 64 Pearl, home in Brooklyn but that's way too vague to assume anything yet. Gabriele ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] help on 1850 census Diane, BTW Actually, I located that address (304 Grand) on the 1850 census and checked the whole area a few city blocks in each direction page by page. No Luck Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <billmellsworth@comcast.net> To: <nynewyor@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] help on 1850 census ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message