Name: Charles Clark Naturalization Date: 26 Oct 1854 Former Nationality: Queen United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland Title and Location of Court: City Court, Brooklyn, New York Witness: Patrick O'Neil ============================ 1880 United States Federal Census > New York > New York City-Greater > Kings (Brooklyn) > District 12 [2nd Ward] Date: Address: 101 Adams Street CLARK, Charles, 88, Widower, horse dealer, born IRE, IRE IRE CLARK, James, son, 45, truckman, IRE-IRE-IRE CLARK, Lizzie, dau, 32, shirtmaker, IRE IRE IRE CLARK, Maggie dau, 28, keeping house, NY-IRE-IRE FLANNIGAN, John, grandson, 24, machinist, NY-IRE-IRE FLANNIGAN Mary-Ann, granddaughter, 22, seamstress, NY-IRE-IRE FLANNIGAN, Marseille, granddaughter, 20, seamstress, NY-IRE-IRE 1870 United States Federal Census > New York > Kings > Brooklyn Ward 2 Date: 18 June 1870 Address: 340 Charles Clark 79 cartman Mary Clark 58 Hugh Clark 40 , seaman, Barnie Clark 38, machinst James Clark 35 , truckman, Kate Clark 22 , operator, Lizzie Clark 20 operator Maggie Clark 18 John Flanagan 16, Brass finisher, b NY Mary Flanagan 14 , b NY Marcelle Flanagan 10 b. NY ======================== 1860 United States Federal Census > New York > Kings > Brooklyn Ward 2 District 2 Date: 18 June 1860 Address: 209 Line 10) CLARK, Charles, 60, personal assets $100., b IRE 11) CLARK, Mary, 53, b. IRE 12) CLARK, Bernard, 25, b. IRE, boilermaker 13 CLARK, James, 23, b. IRE, cartman 14 CLARK, Ann, 20, b.IRE, 15 CLARK, Catherine, 16, b. IRE 16) CLARK, Elizabeth 14, b.IRE 17) CLARK, Margaret, 11, b NY 18, CONNELL, James, 32, cartman, personal assets $100, born IRE 19) CONNELL, Catherine, 28, wife, born IRE 20) CONNELL, Thomas, 7, born NY, in school 21) CONNELL, William, 5, born NY 22) CONNELL, Rose, 2, born NY ======================================================== 1850 United States Federal Census > New York > Kings > Brooklyn Ward Date: 10 Sept 1850 Address: 556 CLARK,Chas 53, Laborer, B. IRE, cannot read or write CLARK, Mary, 42 wife,cannot read or write CLARK, Hugh,20, laborer, CLARK, Barney,16, laborer CLARK, Ellen, 18, CLARK, James, 14, in school, b. IRE CLARK, Ann, 12, CLARK , Catherine, 6 CLARK, Elizabeth, 3 CLARK, Margaret, 1, born NY CLARK, Ann, 45, b IRE, cannot read or write FLINN, Elizabeth, 15 born NY ============== ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)
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Sorry- I thought this was a private email. Sue -----Original Message----- From: nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Maxwell Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 8:01 AM To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] John Murphey Farley Well- in what way? I am still going through a trial ( an opportunity to change) I have a new computer and I now have a crazy email called Microsoft office ( from lemom computer to lemon email) I have had Rootsmagic- several years- and now it is going crazy duplicating names, stealing names of mothers and siblings by sons with the same name as fathers, and duplicating them by five generations and other weird stuff, making a huge frustrating mess. I just found out that my dh of 30 years has Asperger's Sydrome- which explains all of the weirdness and pain of it- but I have hope, literally- he doesn't know yet. I had a very symbolic dream, once, and it helps me understand this better and who the real John is and can't be right now. I just wrote an article for a genealogy magazine called Crossroads called; The Scrapbook: How A Grandmother's Gift Changed My Life- I was so excited when I saw the first draft of it that I had a party on the ceiling with Mary Poppins I have a pushed up deadline on my contribution to the book, and all of these computer RM problems are making it difficult. Pressurrreeeeeeeeeeeee! I am fine, despite my strange life. I have my religion, and that is all I need to teach me to be happy with all of my crazy life. My whole life has been a very different path to walk, but I will walk it with His help and the best I can- maybe I just need a better sense of humor- I am reading books on the neuroplasticity of the brain- it is fascinating for lots of reasons for those of us who just are negative thinkers, or have problems or who have really serious illnesses. Miss Marple ( my code name) ( I was thinking of going onto the NYC site with a new email, so if you ever see this it is me.) I love her! Hugs and bunches of flowers to you- lavender and roses- Sue -----Original Message----- From: nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MizScarlettNY@aol.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 12:02 AM To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] John Murphey Farley Thank you very much, Sue. Things any better for you? Barb ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Well- in what way? I am still going through a trial ( an opportunity to change) I have a new computer and I now have a crazy email called Microsoft office ( from lemom computer to lemon email) I have had Rootsmagic- several years- and now it is going crazy duplicating names, stealing names of mothers and siblings by sons with the same name as fathers, and duplicating them by five generations and other weird stuff, making a huge frustrating mess. I just found out that my dh of 30 years has Asperger's Sydrome- which explains all of the weirdness and pain of it- but I have hope, literally- he doesn't know yet. I had a very symbolic dream, once, and it helps me understand this better and who the real John is and can't be right now. I just wrote an article for a genealogy magazine called Crossroads called; The Scrapbook: How A Grandmother's Gift Changed My Life- I was so excited when I saw the first draft of it that I had a party on the ceiling with Mary Poppins I have a pushed up deadline on my contribution to the book, and all of these computer RM problems are making it difficult. Pressurrreeeeeeeeeeeee! I am fine, despite my strange life. I have my religion, and that is all I need to teach me to be happy with all of my crazy life. My whole life has been a very different path to walk, but I will walk it with His help and the best I can- maybe I just need a better sense of humor- I am reading books on the neuroplasticity of the brain- it is fascinating for lots of reasons for those of us who just are negative thinkers, or have problems or who have really serious illnesses. Miss Marple ( my code name) ( I was thinking of going onto the NYC site with a new email, so if you ever see this it is me.) I love her! Hugs and bunches of flowers to you- lavender and roses- Sue -----Original Message----- From: nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MizScarlettNY@aol.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 12:02 AM To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] John Murphey Farley Thank you very much, Sue. Things any better for you? Barb ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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Name: Farley, John Murphy, Cardinal Birth - Death: 1842-1918 Source Citation: * Biography Index. A cumulative index to biographical material in books and magazines. Volume 1: January, 1946-July, 1949. New York: H.W. Wilson Co., 1949. (BioIn 1) * Biography Index. A cumulative index to biographical material in books and magazines. Volume 6: September, 1961-August, 1964. New York: H.W. Wilson Co., 1965. (BioIn 6) * Biography Index. A cumulative index to biographical material in books and magazines. Volume 8: September, 1967-August, 1970. New York: H.W. Wilson Co., 1971. (BioIn 8) You can find his passport on Ancestry plus tons of info including the top information. He came to NYC. On the 1880 and 1910 census, at least.. Farley John 35 y Jun 10 1918 4398 Bronx F640 Possible death certificate from germangenealogy group Sue Maxwell- cheers
Thank you very much Joy and Gabriele for you detailed help. No wonder he was not in the iGG Death Index, he died in Mamaroneck 1918. Time for the Westchester County Archives. My g-g-g grandmother Margaret FARLEY died IRE before 1855; married Andrew CLARK. Co. Cavan. Do not know anything about Margaret, except she birthed Ann, Andrew, and James in Co. Cavan. My g-g grandmother Ann CLARK [b. 1839 Co. Cavan] died NY-NY-NY 1893; married Daniel O'CONNELL [b. Co Kildare] My g-grandmother Mary O'CONNELL [b.Sept 1869 NYC] My father kept telling me about the Cardinal, about Charlie Murphy his Godfather [Tammany Hall], and about nameless ancestors in the American Revolution. DAR here I come...being silly. Scratching surfaces N of NYC Barb ngharkey@sbcglobal.net writes: > CARDINAL A LEADER OF LOYAL AMERICANS :John Cardinal Farley. (1918, > September > 18). New York Times > > > Cardinal Farley was born April 20, 1842, at Newton Hamilton County, Armagh, > Ireland, the son of Philip and Catherine Murphy Farley. his father was an > innkeeper. Both parents died when the boy was only 7 years old and he was > left largely to make his own way in the world. > > Gabriele > =================================== > also stumbled across this post: > > Seeking info on Catherine Murphy Farley, mother of Cardinal > John Murphy Farley circa mid 1800's. Parents John and Rose > Murphy. Siblings Ann(Aniel), Patrick, John, Henry. Believe > born and died in Ireland. > > See the post at http://www.jenforum.net/ireland/armagh/messages/253.html > Maybe this researcher can help you piece things together as well? > > Gabriele > > > ================================== Joy Rich: 1918 NYT says he died in Mamaroneck. ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001)
also stumbled across this post: Seeking info on Catherine Murphy Farley, mother of Cardinal John Murphy Farley circa mid 1800's. Parents John and Rose Murphy. Siblings Ann(Aniel), Patrick, John, Henry. Believe born and died in Ireland. See the post at http://www.jenforum.net/ireland/armagh/messages/253.html Maybe this researcher can help you piece things together as well? Gabriele ----- Original Message ----- From: Gabriele Harkey To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] FARLEY: Today's contest excerpt from: CARDINAL A LEADER OF LOYAL AMERICANS :John Cardinal Farley. (1918, September 18). New York Times Cardinal Farley was born April 20, 1842, at Newton Hamilton County, Armagh, Ireland, the son of Philip and Catherine Murphy Farley. his father was an innkeeper. Both parents died when the boy was only 7 years old and he was left largely to make his own way in the world. Gabriele
excerpt from: CARDINAL A LEADER OF LOYAL AMERICANS :John Cardinal Farley. (1918, September 18). New York Times Cardinal Farley was born April 20, 1842, at Newton Hamilton County, Armagh, Ireland, the son of Philip and Catherine Murphy Farley. his father was an innkeeper. Both parents died when the boy was only 7 years old and he was left largely to make his own way in the world. Gabriele ----- Original Message ----- From: MizScarlettNY@aol.com To: NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com ; NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com ; NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 6:09 PM Subject: [NYNEWYOR] FARLEY: Today's contest Can anyone find the actual death certificate of this NYC Cardinal in the Roman Catholic Church? According to Wikipedia, he was born in Newtown-Hamilton, Co. Armagh, Ireland on 20 April 1842. He died on 17 September 1918. Full Name: John Murphy FARLEY Two generations tell that he was related to my g-g grandmother, but can't quite figure out how. I need his parents names from the DC. Prize to be announced offlist, based upon the first correct answer! Barb N of NYC ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Can anyone find the actual death certificate of this NYC Cardinal in the Roman Catholic Church? According to Wikipedia, he was born in Newtown-Hamilton, Co. Armagh, Ireland on 20 April 1842. He died on 17 September 1918. Full Name: John Murphy FARLEY Two generations tell that he was related to my g-g grandmother, but can't quite figure out how. I need his parents names from the DC. Prize to be announced offlist, based upon the first correct answer! Barb N of NYC ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)
To keep it simple here, Folks: All index records for NYS and NYC vital record at *governmental* repositories are "secure" facilities [meaning police presence & lockable], where a current photo ID, and metal detector scanning of "your person" and belongings is required. Although LDS branches and NYPL on Fifth Ave, NYC were not alluded to as secure, or as insecure, I guarantee that you may read the index records at either facility without bodily threat. Anyone may google for satellite locations. Barb N of NYC ================= Nancycurran@prodigy.net writes: "> The indexes for the vital records of the NYS Dept of Health, which do not > include New York City boroughs, are available only at a few sites and must be > read in person in a secure facility...State" > > ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001)
I believe the fhc has them- Sue -----Original Message----- From: nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Pfeifer Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 12:38 PM To: MizScarlettNY@aol.com; NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com; NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com; NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYNEWYOR] [BKLYN] Ancestors MIA in NYC? Would the NY State Index be available at the Philadelphia NARA? How about an LDS Family History Center? I'm a little far from NYC. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <MizScarlettNY@aol.com> To: <NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com>; <NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com>; <NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: [BKLYN] Ancestors MIA in NYC? > If you are stumped finding an Ancestor's birth, marriage, and death > certificates in NYC, you may want to research them on the NY State Index > available at > NARA and NYPL. I chose NARA because it is a smaller and usually quieter > facility. > > On my trip to NYC NARA on Saturday (yes, they are open one Saturday per > month), I searched just the Death Index. Fortunatley, these are typed so > data is > clear. These are divided into three time frames: 1881-1919, 1919-1945, > and > 1946- > 1958. Each time frame holds a couple of thousand alphabetized microfiche, > so > you may need to search 2 - 3 for each year. > > Examples: > In one instance, I had an actual death date to work with, so viewed two > microfiche and VOILA! our NYC guy was found in Rockland County. The data > frm the > index included: the name, death date, city/town of death, and certificate > number of the deceased. > > In another ase, I was searching a Katy/Catherine/Katherine MAUL/MAULE/ > MAILE/MALL/MELL etc, without a known death year, seeking 1900-1904. For > each of the > five years, I had to review two microfiche, due to the number of deceased > included on just one film. > > If anyone has searched Births and Marriages on the NYS Index, > I'd appreciate it if you'd share onlist, what years are covered for each > of > these vital records. > > It is a relief to know that you have alternatives to brickwall New > Yorkers! > > Barb > N of NYC > > > > ************** > New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! > > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) > ___________________________________ > > The Bklyn Info Pages Website: > www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ > > List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com > > Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > ___________________________________ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The indexes for the vital records of the NYS Dept of Health, which do not include New York City boroughs, are available only at a few sites and must be read in person in a secure facility. I read them at the NYS Archives in Albany. Cliff Lamere's website about research will doubtless have the complete list of locations. Be ready with a photo ID the first time to you go to the location. If you are far from any of these repositories and you prefer not to visit the locations in person, your best bet may be to hire a professional for the search. The index listing will tell the name, for which you will read for variant spellings as well, the date of the event, the place of the event and the all-important NYS registration number. Reading the index is free. If all you want is the exact date and place, say for searching for a newspaper obituary listing survivors, that might be all you want. For a death record, if you want the decedent's date and place of birth, residence address, date and place of death, marital status, length of time in the community of residence, occupation, names and places of birth of parents, cause of death, length of illness, contributing causes of death, name of physician, name of funeral home, place of burial and name of the informant, then you will want to order the certificate, which is a photocopy of the original from the NYS files. From a birth record you will learn the full name of the infant, unless it is identified as only m for male or f for female, the date and place of birth, the names, addresseds and occupations of the parents, and the number of children the mother has already had. From a marriage record you will learn for each party the full name, address, age, place of birth, occupation and names of parents. If you decide to order, the cost of each record is $22. The wait may be six months. There is a speedier way. New York State began its reporting of vital records in 1880. Birth records are public up to 75 years ago, marriages and deaths up to 50 years ago. Albany, Buffalo and Yonkers declined to participate until 1914, so those records would be in those cities. I have been told that the indexes, like the records, will never be posted on line or made available in any manner except that I've described above. Feel free to contact me off list for more explanation. Nancy Johnsen Curran http://pages.prodigy.net/nancycurran Genealogy research and photography in the capital region of New York State
Thank you for the correct facts, Princess. Please excuse my misinformation. Now, I am really glad that I chose to research state records at NARA! OK, here's the scoop: NARA has New York STATE Index for birth, marriage, death NYPL has New York CITY Index for birth, marriage, death LDS has ____________________________ (fill in the blank) Barb N of NYC ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001)
Thanks so much for sharing this!! Kelly Gray Gray-Devlin_Griffin All in NYC/NY State > From: MizScarlettNY@aol.com > Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 13:49:39 -0400 > To: NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com; NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com; NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYNEWYOR] Ancestors MIA in NYC? > > If you are stumped finding an Ancestor's birth, marriage, and death > certificates in NYC, you may want to research them on the NY State Index available at > NARA and NYPL. I chose NARA because it is a smaller and usually quieter > facility. > > On my trip to NYC NARA on Saturday (yes, they are open one Saturday per > month), I searched just the Death Index. Fortunatley, these are typed so data is > clear. These are divided into three time frames: 1881-1919, 1919-1945, and > 1946- > 1958. Each time frame holds a couple of thousand alphabetized microfiche, so > you may need to search 2 - 3 for each year. > > Examples: > In one instance, I had an actual death date to work with, so viewed two > microfiche and VOILA! our NYC guy was found in Rockland County. The data frm the > index included: the name, death date, city/town of death, and certificate > number of the deceased. > > In another ase, I was searching a Katy/Catherine/Katherine MAUL/MAULE/ > MAILE/MALL/MELL etc, without a known death year, seeking 1900-1904. For each of the > five years, I had to review two microfiche, due to the number of deceased > included on just one film. > > If anyone has searched Births and Marriages on the NYS Index, > I'd appreciate it if you'd share onlist, what years are covered for each of > these vital records. > > It is a relief to know that you have alternatives to brickwall New Yorkers! > > Barb > N of NYC > > > > ************** > New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! > > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) > > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life together—at home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/
Would the NY State Index be available at the Philadelphia NARA? How about an LDS Family History Center? I'm a little far from NYC. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <MizScarlettNY@aol.com> To: <NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com>; <NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com>; <NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: [BKLYN] Ancestors MIA in NYC? > If you are stumped finding an Ancestor's birth, marriage, and death > certificates in NYC, you may want to research them on the NY State Index > available at > NARA and NYPL. I chose NARA because it is a smaller and usually quieter > facility. > > On my trip to NYC NARA on Saturday (yes, they are open one Saturday per > month), I searched just the Death Index. Fortunatley, these are typed so > data is > clear. These are divided into three time frames: 1881-1919, 1919-1945, > and > 1946- > 1958. Each time frame holds a couple of thousand alphabetized microfiche, > so > you may need to search 2 - 3 for each year. > > Examples: > In one instance, I had an actual death date to work with, so viewed two > microfiche and VOILA! our NYC guy was found in Rockland County. The data > frm the > index included: the name, death date, city/town of death, and certificate > number of the deceased. > > In another ase, I was searching a Katy/Catherine/Katherine MAUL/MAULE/ > MAILE/MALL/MELL etc, without a known death year, seeking 1900-1904. For > each of the > five years, I had to review two microfiche, due to the number of deceased > included on just one film. > > If anyone has searched Births and Marriages on the NYS Index, > I'd appreciate it if you'd share onlist, what years are covered for each > of > these vital records. > > It is a relief to know that you have alternatives to brickwall New > Yorkers! > > Barb > N of NYC > > > > ************** > New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! > > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) > ___________________________________ > > The Bklyn Info Pages Website: > www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ > > List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com > > Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > ___________________________________ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
When I went to the now dissolved NYGBS I remember looking at a death list; I found a clue to my ggg grandfather's wife ( but still don't know where she is buried), but found none for him- they said if he wasn't on the list he didn't die there- big surprise at that time. But later, I found out, in a rather miraculous way, that he must have gone to live with his other son in Ohio and is buried there. I am just wondering if these lists went to the NYPL with all of the other stuff they had in that magnificent building- very sad! Sue
-----Original Message----- From: nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nynewyor-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MizScarlettNY@aol.com Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 12:51 PM To: MizScarlettNY@aol.com; NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com; NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com; NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYNEWYOR] ammended Re: Ancestors MIA in NYC? Thank you for the correct facts, Princess. Please excuse my misinformation. Now, I am really glad that I chose to research state records at NARA! OK, here's the scoop: NARA has New York STATE Index for birth, marriage, death NYPL has New York CITY Index for birth, marriage, death LDS has _we have lots of contradictory information!!!!!!!!___________________________ (fill in the blank) Barb N of NYC ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) ************************************* Jim Garrity, List Administrator jimgarrity@earthlink.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
If you are stumped finding an Ancestor's birth, marriage, and death certificates in NYC, you may want to research them on the NY State Index available at NARA and NYPL. I chose NARA because it is a smaller and usually quieter facility. On my trip to NYC NARA on Saturday (yes, they are open one Saturday per month), I searched just the Death Index. Fortunatley, these are typed so data is clear. These are divided into three time frames: 1881-1919, 1919-1945, and 1946- 1958. Each time frame holds a couple of thousand alphabetized microfiche, so you may need to search 2 - 3 for each year. Examples: In one instance, I had an actual death date to work with, so viewed two microfiche and VOILA! our NYC guy was found in Rockland County. The data frm the index included: the name, death date, city/town of death, and certificate number of the deceased. In another ase, I was searching a Katy/Catherine/Katherine MAUL/MAULE/ MAILE/MALL/MELL etc, without a known death year, seeking 1900-1904. For each of the five years, I had to review two microfiche, due to the number of deceased included on just one film. If anyone has searched Births and Marriages on the NYS Index, I'd appreciate it if you'd share onlist, what years are covered for each of these vital records. It is a relief to know that you have alternatives to brickwall New Yorkers! Barb N of NYC ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001)
Barb said- "If you are stumped finding an Ancestor's birth, marriage, and death certificates in NYC, you may want to research them on the NY State Index available at NARA and NYPL. I chose NARA because it is a smaller and usually quieter facility." Since they used to have one at the NYGBS, would it now be at the NYPL also? Sue