----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Pritchett" <kpritchett@mkp-law.com> To: <Soyamaven@aol.com>; <NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com>; <NYNASSAU-L@rootsweb.com>; <NY-LONGISLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:42 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} RE: Borough for death certificate > Helpful AND interesting Walter. I'm lousy at geography.... This gentleman > was living with a sister-in-law and her husband in both the 1920 and 1930 > censuses. In 1930, the info on the census page is as follows: > State - NY > County - Nassau > Township - Oyster Bay Township > Incorporated Place - Farmingdale Village (Part) > ED - 30-187 > Supervisor's District - 36 > (incidentally, the enumerator was the husband of the sister-in-law) > > In your valued opinion, does this make it easier to point to a starting > place(i.e. Farmingdale Village or Oyster Bay)? > > Thanks again, Karen Pritchett > > -----Original Message----- > From: Soyamaven@aol.com [mailto:Soyamaven@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:14 PM > To: NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com; NYNASSAU-L@rootsweb.com; > NY-LONGISLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Cc: kpritchett@mkp-law.com > Subject: Borough for death certificate > > > > On 6/1/05 (3:01:09 PM MDT), in a posting to NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com, Karen > Pritchett (kpritchett@mkp-law.com) asked, > > "I have obtained several birth, marriage & death certs from the Municipal > Archives (with fabulous service, I might add). Now I have a death date for > Joseph Frederick Winkler who died June 13, 1931 in Farmingdale, Long Island, > NY. > My problem is, when I order the certificate, they want to know which borough > to > search. They offer Manhattan, Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens (also Staten Island, > but not this particular year). Which borough should I specify for this > place > of death at this time?" > > > Farmingdale is a village (municipal corporation) in the Town of Oyster Bay, > Nassau County. BUT, as the "Farmingdale, NY 11735" postal zone serves an > area > larger than the Village of Farmingdale in both the Town of Oyster Bay, > Nassau > County and the Town of Babylon, Suffolk County, then depending on in which > municipality the death took place, you would want to contact either the > Village > Clerk for the Village of Farmingdale, the Town Clerk for the Town of Oyster > Bay > or the Town Clerk for the Town of Babylon: > > Village Clerk > Village of Farmingdale > 361 Main Street > Farmingdale, NY 11735 > > Tel: 516/249-0093 > Fax: 616/????-???? > > eMail: ??????? > > http://www.farmingdalevillage.org/officials.html > > > Office of the Town Clerk > Town of Oyster Bay > Oyster Bay Town Hall > 54 Audrey Avenue > Oyster Bay, NY 11771 > > Tel: 516/624-6332 > Fax: 516/???-???? > > eMail: ????? > > http://www.oysterbaytown.com/ > > > Office of the Town Clerk > Town of Babylon > Babylon Town Hall > 200 East Sunrise Highway > Lindenhurst, NY 11757 > > Tel: 631/957-3000 > Fax: 631/957-7440 > > eMail: ????? > > http://www.townofbabylon.com/contact/index.cfm > > > While the Village of Farmingdale is in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau > County, > the majority of places that have a "Farmingdale, NY" mailing address are in > the Hamlet of East Farmingdale, Town of Babylon, Suffolk County because the > "Farmingdale, NY" postal zone is a bi-county postal zone. > > The pertinent geography: > > Farmingdale is a village (incorporated in 1904) in the southeast part of the > Town of Oyster Bay, in the east part of Nassau County (along the Oyster > Bay/Babylon town line and the Nassau/Suffolk County line ). There are 18 > hamlets > (unincorporated areas) and 18 villages (municipal corporations) all or > partly > within the Town of Oyster Bay. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau > County. > (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS > definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) > > Beginning on its northern border and proceeding clockwise, the Village of > Farmingdale in the Town of Oyster Bay is bordered on the north by the Hamlet > of > Old Bethpage; on the east by the Hamlet of East Farmingdale, Town of > Babylon, > Suffolk County (the Oyster Bay/Babylon Town line and the Nassau/Suffolk > County > line); on the south by the Hamlet of South Farmingdale; and, on the west by > the Hamlets of Plainedge and Bethpage. > > And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, > 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Village of Farmingdale has a different > border > than does the "Farmingdale, NY 11735" postal zone (actually, the majority of > places with a Farmingdale mailing address are NOT in Farmingdale). > > ................................................acres > ......Village of Farmingdale...........696 > ......Farmingdale, NY 11735......2,708* > > * This is the portion in Nassau County only; the majority of the area of > the > "Farmingdale, NY 11735" postal zone is in the Town of Babylon, Suffolk > County. > > In addition to the Farmingdale addresses in the Town of Babylon, Suffolk > County, about 3 of every 4 Farmingdale addresses in Nassau County are also > not in > the Village of Farmingdale (these paces with a Farmingdale address that are > not in the Village of Farmingdale are in the Hamlet of South Farmingdale and > the > Hamlet of Plainedge). > > For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier editions of the LI > Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island > Power > Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to > access and download the report), you'll find the Village of Farmingdale > (incorporated in 1904) in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County on pages 5 & > 11 (map) and > 12 (population estimate). > > I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. > > Regards, > > Walter Greenspan > > > Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State > > New York State is divided into counties. > > County > A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to > perform state functions; a "regional" government All counties are divided > into > cities, towns and Indian reservations. > > City > A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities > are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods which are informal geographic > areas. > > Town > A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the > state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be > sub-divided into villages and hamlets. > > Village > A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by > the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with > municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those > of a > city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal > geographic areas. > > Hamlet > A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed > at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, > which > are informal geographic areas. > > Postal Zone "City" and "Town" > A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by > the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" > may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. > Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet > location. > > > Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of > non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of place > shave a > different community name in their mailing address than the community where > that > place is actually located. > > >