On 6/3/05 (7:55:23 AM MDT), in a posting to NYC-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com, Kathleen Schilling (kschilli@hotmail.com) wrote, "For any of you in the NYC area: DNA for Genealogists: How to Learn About Your Ancestry Through DNA Posted: Friday, June 03 @ 09:44:22 EDT The New York Genealogical and Biographical Society is pleased to present a fascinating day-long workshop about the revealing world of DNA testing for genealogists on Saturday, June 18, 2005 from 9:30 AM to 5:00 PM. This workshop is geared to help the newcomer to DNA testing learn the essentials, from an understanding of DNA to being tested and interpreting the results. Led by two top experts in the field, Family Tree DNA’s president Bennett Greenspan and genealogist Megan Smolenyak, this workshop offers a practical, understandable, step-by-step, journey into what the genealogist needs to know about DNA testing." Bennett Greenspan is a good "fella", but nevertheless, is not any relation to me, Walter Greenspan. We know this because I sent my DNA swabs to Bennett for DNA analysis and we did not match. I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Pritchett" <kpritchett@mkp-law.com> To: <Soyamaven@aol.com>; <NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com>; <NYNASSAU-L@rootsweb.com>; <NY-LONGISLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:42 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} RE: Borough for death certificate > Helpful AND interesting Walter. I'm lousy at geography.... This gentleman > was living with a sister-in-law and her husband in both the 1920 and 1930 > censuses. In 1930, the info on the census page is as follows: > State - NY > County - Nassau > Township - Oyster Bay Township > Incorporated Place - Farmingdale Village (Part) > ED - 30-187 > Supervisor's District - 36 > (incidentally, the enumerator was the husband of the sister-in-law) > > In your valued opinion, does this make it easier to point to a starting > place(i.e. Farmingdale Village or Oyster Bay)? > > Thanks again, Karen Pritchett > > -----Original Message----- > From: Soyamaven@aol.com [mailto:Soyamaven@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:14 PM > To: NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com; NYNASSAU-L@rootsweb.com; > NY-LONGISLAND-L@rootsweb.com > Cc: kpritchett@mkp-law.com > Subject: Borough for death certificate > > > > On 6/1/05 (3:01:09 PM MDT), in a posting to NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com, Karen > Pritchett (kpritchett@mkp-law.com) asked, > > "I have obtained several birth, marriage & death certs from the Municipal > Archives (with fabulous service, I might add). Now I have a death date for > Joseph Frederick Winkler who died June 13, 1931 in Farmingdale, Long Island, > NY. > My problem is, when I order the certificate, they want to know which borough > to > search. They offer Manhattan, Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens (also Staten Island, > but not this particular year). Which borough should I specify for this > place > of death at this time?" > > > Farmingdale is a village (municipal corporation) in the Town of Oyster Bay, > Nassau County. BUT, as the "Farmingdale, NY 11735" postal zone serves an > area > larger than the Village of Farmingdale in both the Town of Oyster Bay, > Nassau > County and the Town of Babylon, Suffolk County, then depending on in which > municipality the death took place, you would want to contact either the > Village > Clerk for the Village of Farmingdale, the Town Clerk for the Town of Oyster > Bay > or the Town Clerk for the Town of Babylon: > > Village Clerk > Village of Farmingdale > 361 Main Street > Farmingdale, NY 11735 > > Tel: 516/249-0093 > Fax: 616/????-???? > > eMail: ??????? > > http://www.farmingdalevillage.org/officials.html > > > Office of the Town Clerk > Town of Oyster Bay > Oyster Bay Town Hall > 54 Audrey Avenue > Oyster Bay, NY 11771 > > Tel: 516/624-6332 > Fax: 516/???-???? > > eMail: ????? > > http://www.oysterbaytown.com/ > > > Office of the Town Clerk > Town of Babylon > Babylon Town Hall > 200 East Sunrise Highway > Lindenhurst, NY 11757 > > Tel: 631/957-3000 > Fax: 631/957-7440 > > eMail: ????? > > http://www.townofbabylon.com/contact/index.cfm > > > While the Village of Farmingdale is in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau > County, > the majority of places that have a "Farmingdale, NY" mailing address are in > the Hamlet of East Farmingdale, Town of Babylon, Suffolk County because the > "Farmingdale, NY" postal zone is a bi-county postal zone. > > The pertinent geography: > > Farmingdale is a village (incorporated in 1904) in the southeast part of the > Town of Oyster Bay, in the east part of Nassau County (along the Oyster > Bay/Babylon town line and the Nassau/Suffolk County line ). There are 18 > hamlets > (unincorporated areas) and 18 villages (municipal corporations) all or > partly > within the Town of Oyster Bay. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau > County. > (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS > definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) > > Beginning on its northern border and proceeding clockwise, the Village of > Farmingdale in the Town of Oyster Bay is bordered on the north by the Hamlet > of > Old Bethpage; on the east by the Hamlet of East Farmingdale, Town of > Babylon, > Suffolk County (the Oyster Bay/Babylon Town line and the Nassau/Suffolk > County > line); on the south by the Hamlet of South Farmingdale; and, on the west by > the Hamlets of Plainedge and Bethpage. > > And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, > 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Village of Farmingdale has a different > border > than does the "Farmingdale, NY 11735" postal zone (actually, the majority of > places with a Farmingdale mailing address are NOT in Farmingdale). > > ................................................acres > ......Village of Farmingdale...........696 > ......Farmingdale, NY 11735......2,708* > > * This is the portion in Nassau County only; the majority of the area of > the > "Farmingdale, NY 11735" postal zone is in the Town of Babylon, Suffolk > County. > > In addition to the Farmingdale addresses in the Town of Babylon, Suffolk > County, about 3 of every 4 Farmingdale addresses in Nassau County are also > not in > the Village of Farmingdale (these paces with a Farmingdale address that are > not in the Village of Farmingdale are in the Hamlet of South Farmingdale and > the > Hamlet of Plainedge). > > For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier editions of the LI > Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island > Power > Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to > access and download the report), you'll find the Village of Farmingdale > (incorporated in 1904) in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County on pages 5 & > 11 (map) and > 12 (population estimate). > > I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. > > Regards, > > Walter Greenspan > > > Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State > > New York State is divided into counties. > > County > A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to > perform state functions; a "regional" government All counties are divided > into > cities, towns and Indian reservations. > > City > A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities > are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods which are informal geographic > areas. > > Town > A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the > state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be > sub-divided into villages and hamlets. > > Village > A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by > the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with > municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those > of a > city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal > geographic areas. > > Hamlet > A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed > at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, > which > are informal geographic areas. > > Postal Zone "City" and "Town" > A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by > the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" > may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. > Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet > location. > > > Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of > non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of place > shave a > different community name in their mailing address than the community where > that > place is actually located. > > >

Karen Pritchett, From the information you posted, it seems that the gentlemen was living in the Village of Farmingdale, Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County, and if the death occurred in the Village of Farmingdale, I would contact the Village Clerk for the Village of Farmingdale. HOWEVER, the death certificate is issued by the municipality where the death occurred and that is not necessarily where the person was residing prior to death. For example, if the death occurred in a hospital in a different municipality than where the person was residing, then the death certificate would be issued by the municipality where the hospital was located. Good luck. Walter Greenspan

On 6/1/05 (3:01:09 PM MDT), in a posting to NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com, Karen Pritchett (kpritchett@mkp-law.com) asked, "I have obtained several birth, marriage & death certs from the Municipal Archives (with fabulous service, I might add). Now I have a death date for Joseph Frederick Winkler who died June 13, 1931 in Farmingdale, Long Island, NY. My problem is, when I order the certificate, they want to know which borough to search. They offer Manhattan, Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens (also Staten Island, but not this particular year). Which borough should I specify for this place of death at this time?" Farmingdale is a village (municipal corporation) in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County. BUT, as the "Farmingdale, NY 11735" postal zone serves an area larger than the Village of Farmingdale in both the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County and the Town of Babylon, Suffolk County, then depending on in which municipality the death took place, you would want to contact either the Village Clerk for the Village of Farmingdale, the Town Clerk for the Town of Oyster Bay or the Town Clerk for the Town of Babylon: Village Clerk Village of Farmingdale 361 Main Street Farmingdale, NY 11735 Tel: 516/249-0093 Fax: 616/????-???? eMail: ??????? http://www.farmingdalevillage.org/officials.html Office of the Town Clerk Town of Oyster Bay Oyster Bay Town Hall 54 Audrey Avenue Oyster Bay, NY 11771 Tel: 516/624-6332 Fax: 516/???-???? eMail: ????? http://www.oysterbaytown.com/ Office of the Town Clerk Town of Babylon Babylon Town Hall 200 East Sunrise Highway Lindenhurst, NY 11757 Tel: 631/957-3000 Fax: 631/957-7440 eMail: ????? http://www.townofbabylon.com/contact/index.cfm While the Village of Farmingdale is in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County, the majority of places that have a "Farmingdale, NY" mailing address are in the Hamlet of East Farmingdale, Town of Babylon, Suffolk County because the "Farmingdale, NY" postal zone is a bi-county postal zone. The pertinent geography: Farmingdale is a village (incorporated in 1904) in the southeast part of the Town of Oyster Bay, in the east part of Nassau County (along the Oyster Bay/Babylon town line and the Nassau/Suffolk County line ). There are 18 hamlets (unincorporated areas) and 18 villages (municipal corporations) all or partly within the Town of Oyster Bay. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on its northern border and proceeding clockwise, the Village of Farmingdale in the Town of Oyster Bay is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Old Bethpage; on the east by the Hamlet of East Farmingdale, Town of Babylon, Suffolk County (the Oyster Bay/Babylon Town line and the Nassau/Suffolk County line); on the south by the Hamlet of South Farmingdale; and, on the west by the Hamlets of Plainedge and Bethpage. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Village of Farmingdale has a different border than does the "Farmingdale, NY 11735" postal zone (actually, the majority of places with a Farmingdale mailing address are NOT in Farmingdale). ................................................acres ......Village of Farmingdale...........696 ......Farmingdale, NY 11735......2,708* * This is the portion in Nassau County only; the majority of the area of the "Farmingdale, NY 11735" postal zone is in the Town of Babylon, Suffolk County. In addition to the Farmingdale addresses in the Town of Babylon, Suffolk County, about 3 of every 4 Farmingdale addresses in Nassau County are also not in the Village of Farmingdale (these paces with a Farmingdale address that are not in the Village of Farmingdale are in the Hamlet of South Farmingdale and the Hamlet of Plainedge). For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier editions of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Village of Farmingdale (incorporated in 1904) in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County on pages 5 & 11 (map) and 12 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of place shave a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

There was no Nassau County in 1892 (created 1899) but the census for the portions of Queens County that went into Nassau have been microfilm by the LDS Family History Library. I used it to find my ancestors in Roslyn. The 1905 Nassau has also been microfilmed. None of the state censuses are indexed, nor are street addresses shown in 1892. If you know a locality, get that roll of film and start scrolling. I found my folks in 1892 and 1915, no luck in 1905. Russell On Wednesday, June 1, 2005, at 01:24 PM, dewar9839@yahoo.com wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Dewar > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lRB.2ACE/884 > > Message Board Post: > > Do census records exist for these years for county? Have they been > microfilmed or indexed? > > Thanks > > Carol

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dewar Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lRB.2ACE/884 Message Board Post: Do census records exist for these years for county? Have they been microfilmed or indexed? Thanks Carol

130 people and their ages appeared in the NY times on 3 Nov 1895. Miss Jane Cheshire is 74, Mary Homan is 73, Daniel Homan is 83 and Charles Mott is 79. Is anyone related to Charles Mott? Wish the sufffolk list was like the brooklyn list, it would be great to post all 130 names. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

On 5/31/05 (9:11:18 AM MDT), in a posting to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Terri (taire@webtv.net) wrote, "Thanks UncleFred, for sending that. It is very interesting. I've wondered for quite a while about the amounts of land being used for cemeteries and how much longer we have before there's no more room?? Are future generations gonna have to resort to catacombs? I've decided to be cremated. And while my 5'3'', 110 lb body will only be a drop in the bucket -- it'll be my contribution to more space. :))" For those who might have missed the original posting, "UncleFred", the administrator of both NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com and NYNASSAU-L@rootsweb.com, posted: http://www.forgotten-ny.com/CEMETERIES/mtzion/mtzion.htm Secondly, it is the Biblical Jewish custom, based on Avraham (Abraham) purchasing a cave to bury Sarai (Sarah), to bury in caves (catacombs). The catacombs in Rome were originally Jewish burial caves. Jews, unlike most Christian denominations, are not required by their faith to have a building such as a "Church" (the Jewish house of worship is referred to as a shul, temple or synagogue), but are required to have an owned and consecrated cemetery property. That's why there will be a Jewish cemetery before a Jewish house of worship. The reason for this is that Jewish religious services only require the presence of a minimum of 10 Jewish adults (usually males only) and these religious services can be held almost anywhere and do not require the presence of a cleric (rabbi or cantor). On the other hand, Jews must be buried in a Jewish cemetery and, because of what Avraham did by purposely purchasing the burial cave, the cemetery must be legally purchased before being consecrated. While Jewish belief differs from both Christianity (there are some Christian groups that no longer hold this belief) and Islam (Christians and Moslems believe that only those who accept Christian or Islam beliefs can go to Heaven) in that non-Jews who live a good life will go to Heaven, regardless of their beliefs, Jewish law requires that Jews only be buried with other Jews. Hence, only Jews are buried in a Jewish cemetery, and in the case of a married couple, one who is and one who isn't Jewish, then there is a great likelihood that they will be buried in separate cemeteries (as was the case for Houdini (Eric Weiss), who was a Jew, and his wife (Wilhelmina Rahner), who was a Roman Catholic, who are buried in separate cemeteries: Houdini in Machpelah Cemetery in the Ridgewood section of Queens and his wife in Gate of Heaven Cemetery in Hawthorne, NY). For more information on Jewish burial practices, please see: http://www.jewish-funerals.org/ I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan

http://www.forgotten-ny.com/CEMETERIES/mtzion/mtzion.html http://www.danasoft.com/sig/OnclePhred.jpg Regards, Fred www.provoncha.com www.rootsweb.com/~nyessex

DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME GOING TO TOWN HALL. I'm serious, if you go they will give you the form and take your money and then MAIL you the certificate. They will not let you research and they will not do the research for you while you wait. been there done that many many times, Kristina In a message dated 5/26/2005 3:12:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, gigagirl@comcast.net writes: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lRB.2ACE/882 Message Board Post: If I go to Hempstead Town Hall in person, is there an archives room/library that I can access indexes, etc. as to who they have birth/death/marriage certificates for? Does anyone have experience with doing research at Hempstead Town Hall? I would like to be able to get copies of many ancestors certificates, but I do not want to go there just to be told I have to fill out a form and pay money before I know if they have records of my person. Does Hempstead Town have a similar set up to NYC where I can access indexes to get dates and certificate #'s before I pay money for a copy request. Unfortunatley for whatever reason, the LDS did not microfilm records from Long Island (anyone know why?), so I can't access microfilm. I know I can call Hempstead, but I'm at work during business hours monday-friday and I can't make long distance phone calls from work. So, I'm hoping that someone has some more details about how procuring records from Hempstead Town works. Thanks, janet

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lRB.2ACE/881.1 Message Board Post: On 5/26/05 (12:52:28 PM MDT), in a posting to the Nassau County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYNASSAU-L@rootsweb.com, Jillaine Smith (jillainedc@yahoo.com) asked, "I am seeking some kind soul to conduct a lookup for me of the following: William G. Betz who died 03 Sep 2001 with a birth date of Dec 1921 (but he may have been born in Buffalo; in fact, I'm hoping he was...) Please respond to me via the message board or through my email address; I am not subscribed to the mailing list." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Baldwin Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Baldwin Public Library 2385 Grand Avenue Baldwin, NY 11510-3289 Tel: 516/223-6228 Fax: 516/623-7991 eMail: bapl3@lilrc.org http://www.nassaulibrary.org/baldwin/ The pertinent geography: Originally called Hick's His Neck, Hick's Neck, Bethel, Milburn Corners, Milburn, Baldwin Corners, Baldwinsville, Baldwins, and, for second time: Milburn, followed by Baldwins, and then today's Baldwin, Baldwin is a hamlet (an unincorporated community) in the southern section of the Town of Hempstead, in the south-central part of Nassau County. There are 36 hamlets and 22 villages (municipal corporations) all or partly within the Town of Hempstead. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on its northern border and proceeding clockwise, the Hamlet of Baldwin in the Town of Hempstead is bordered on the north by the Village of Hempstead and the Hamlet of Uniondale; on the east by the Hamlet of Roosevelt and the Village of Freeport; on the south by the Hamlet of Baldwin Harbor; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Oceanside, the Village of Rockville Centre and the Hamlet of South Hempstead. Please note: In 1990, the area south of Atlantic Avenue was separated from the Hamlet of Baldwin and was formed into the Hamlet of Baldwin Harbor. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Hamlet of Baldwin has a different border than does the "Baldwin, NY 11510" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Baldwin mailing address and not be in Baldwin and a place can be in Baldwin and have other than a Baldwin mailing address). ....................................acres ..Hamlet of Baldwin........1,785 ..Baldwin, NY 11510......2,725 A bit more than one-third of the places with a "Baldwin, NY" mailing address are not in the Hamlet of Baldwin. These places that have a "Baldwin, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Baldwin are in the Hamlet of Oceanside, the Hamlet of Baldwin Harbor and the Hamlet of Roosevelt; and, at the same time, there are places in the Hamlet of Baldwin that have an "Oceanside, NY 11572", a "Rockville Centre, NY 11870" or a "Roosevelt, NY 11575" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Baldwin in the Town of Hempstead, Nassau County on pages 5 & 8 (map) and 9 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lRB.2ACE/882 Message Board Post: If I go to Hempstead Town Hall in person, is there an archives room/library that I can access indexes, etc. as to who they have birth/death/marriage certificates for? Does anyone have experience with doing research at Hempstead Town Hall? I would like to be able to get copies of many ancestors certificates, but I do not want to go there just to be told I have to fill out a form and pay money before I know if they have records of my person. Does Hempstead Town have a similar set up to NYC where I can access indexes to get dates and certificate #'s before I pay money for a copy request. Unfortunatley for whatever reason, the LDS did not microfilm records from Long Island (anyone know why?), so I can't access microfilm. I know I can call Hempstead, but I'm at work during business hours monday-friday and I can't make long distance phone calls from work. So, I'm hoping that someone has some more details about how procuring records from Hempstead Town works. Thanks, janet

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Betz Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lRB.2ACE/881 Message Board Post: I am seeking some kind soul to conduct a lookup for me of the following: William G. Betz who died 03 Sep 2001 with a birth date of Dec 1921 (but he may have been born in Buffalo; in fact, I'm hoping he was...) Please respond to me via the message board or through my email address; I am not subscribed to the mailing list. Many thanks! -- Jillaine Smith http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jillaine

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Abrams, Hendrickson, Watts, Rogan, Moquin, Porretto, Barnes Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lRB.2ACE/880.3 Message Board Post: If you go to google.com and put in the comic strip name or the cartoonist, you will come up with a bunch. There are books out there with his strips. On amazon.com there is a book that seems to have all his comic strips (not sure by description). You can see if your local library has any of his books also.

http://www.toonopedia.com/pollypal.htm If you google you will find a lot more. This one says it was published in the Hearst chain of newspapers. You may want to reference http://www.kenpiercebooks.com/polly.htm which is a compilation (over a short period though in the 30's). The book may give more information for you. There's another compilation of 1912/13 at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0883556642/103-7456171-6527019?v=glance Try google and you'll find lots more. Best regards. Nancy. NLColeman@worldnet.att.net Nassau NYGenExchange www.genexchange.org/county.php?state=ny&county=Nassau www.genealogypro.com/ncoleman.html

On 5/22/05 (8:23:49 PM MDT), in a posting to NYNASSAU-L@rootsweb.com, Shannon (shstover@earthlink.net) asked, "I am researching the Hindra family that settled in Little Neck. Matus Hindra arrived in the US in 1909 and on the ship manifest he stated that he would be staying with a friend, Yacob Karovick. I've had trouble finding Mr. Karovick in the 1910 and no luck finding Matus either. Anyone have any suggestions? Anyone familiar with these names? Would appreciate any help offered." Little Neck is a neighborhood in the northeast part of the NYC Borough of Queens (coterminous with Queens County), adjacent to the Nassau County line, but not in Nassau County. (I'm cross-posting to the Queens County RootsWeb mailing list.) For a neighborhood map of Queens, please go to: http://www.queenslibrary.org/gallery/past_exhibits/burgh/map.htm I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan

Hello Everyone, I am researching the Hindra family that settled in Little Neck. Matus Hindra arrived in the US in 1909 and on the ship manifest he stated that he would be staying with a friend, Yacob Karovick. I've had trouble finding Mr. Karovick in the 1910 and no luck finding Matus either. Anyone have any suggestions? Anyone familiar with these names? Would appreciate any help offered. Shannon

Genealogy Workshop of the Huntington Historical Society presents "Ellis Island and Beyond: Immigration to the United States" Speaker: Prof. Angela Danzi 7:00 pm Wednesday, May 25, 2005 at the Huntington Public Library, 338 Main St., Huntington, NY Free admission For directions, visit our website at: www.rootsweb.com/~nygwhhs/ Bill Chamberlain Newsletter Editor Genealogy Workshop of The Huntington Historical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygwhhs/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lRB.2ACE/880.2 Message Board Post: On 5/22/05 (6:52:23 PM MDT), in a posting to the Nassau County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYNASSAU-L@rootsweb.com, Dennis Siegmann (dasiegmann@charter.net) asked, "I am trying to find out information on William L. Siegmann, he lived in the Town of Hempstead on Botsford, St.. He was born approx. 1891 and died in 1952. He was a Postman for 38 years approx. 1914-1952. His mail route was the St. Giles area in Garden City, New York. A famous cartoonist of the era named Clifford Sterrett, creator of "Polly and her Pals" lived on his route. Mr. Sterrett did a strip on my grandfather in his honor. Any information on the strip, what newspaper it appeared in and any information on Mr. Clifford Sterrett would be great." As the Village of Hempstead and the Village of Garden City are separate municipalities in the Town of Hempstead and each is served by a different library, I will be replying with 2 separate eMails. This eMail is on the Garden City. The previous eMail was about the Hempstead Library. For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Garden City Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Garden City Public Library 60 Seventh Street Garden City, NY 11530 Tel: 516/742-8405 Fax: 516/???-???? eMail: gcpljra@lilrc.org http://www.nassaulibrary.org/gardenc/ Garden City is one of those communities on Long Island where many of the places with a Garden City mailing address are not in Garden City. The pertinent geography: Garden City is a village (incorporated in 1919) in the north-center section of the Town of Hempstead, in the center of Nassau County, along the Hempstead/North Hempstead town line. There are 22 villages (municipal corporations) and 36 hamlets (unincorporated areas) all or partly within the Town of Hempstead. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on its northern border and proceeding clockwise, the Village of Garden City in the Town of Hempstead is bordered on the north by the North Hempstead/Hempstead town line (the Village of New Hyde Park, the Hamlet of North New Hyde Park, the Village of Mineola and the Hamlet of Carle Place, all in the Town of North Hempstead); on the east by the Hamlet of East Garden City; on the south by the Village of Hempstead, the Hamlet of West Hempstead, the Hamlet of Hamlet of Garden City South and the Hamlet of Franklin Square; and, on the west by the Village of Stewart Manor and the Village of New Hyde Park. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Village of Garden City has a different border than does the "Garden City, NY 11530" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Garden City mailing address and not be in the Village of Garden City and a place can be in the Village of Garden City and have other than a Garden City mailing address). ...........................................acres ....Village of Garden City.......3,414* ....Garden City, NY 11530.....4,859 * Includes 1 acre of the Village of Garden City that's in the Town of Hempstead. As you can see from the above, about 30% of the places that have a "Garden City" mailing address are not in the Village of Garden City. Most of these places that have a "Garden City" address that are not in the Village of Garden City are in the Hamlet of East Garden City, the Hamlet of Garden City South, the Hamlet of Franklin Square and in the Village of Stewart Manor. Simultaneously, there are places in the Village of Garden City that have a "Mineola, NY" mailing address. (The Nassau County county seat is in that part of the Village of Garden City that has a "Mineola, NY" mailing address.) For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Village of Garden City (incorporated in 1919) in the Town of Hempstead, Nassau County on pages 5 & 8 (map) and 9 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lRB.2ACE/880.1 Message Board Post: On 5/22/05 (6:52:23 PM MDT), in a posting to the Nassau County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYNASSAU-L@rootsweb.com, Dennis Siegmann (dasiegmann@charter.net) asked, "I am trying to find out information on William L. Siegmann, he lived in the Town of Hempstead on Botsford, St.. He was born approx. 1891 and died in 1952. He was a Postman for 38 years approx. 1914-1952. His mail route was the St. Giles area in Garden City, New York. A famous cartoonist of the era named Clifford Sterrett, creator of "Polly and her Pals" lived on his route. Mr. Sterrett did a strip on my grandfather in his honor. Any information on the strip, what newspaper it appeared in and any information on Mr. Clifford Sterrett would be great." As the Village of Hempstead and the Village of Garden City are separate municipalities in the Town of Hempstead and each is served by a different library, I will be replying with 2 separate eMails. This eMail is on the Hempstead Library. The following eMail will be on the Garden City Library. For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Hempstead Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Hempstead Public Library 115 Nichols Court Hempstead, NY 11550 Tel: 516/481-6990 Fax: 516/481-6719 eMail: hempstead@nassaulibrary.org http://www.nassaulibrary.org/hempstd/ It is important to know that there are 3 "Hempsteads" (from smallest to largest, in order of acreage): 1. There is the Village of Hempstead = 2,327 acres 2. There is the Hempstead, NY 11550 postal zone = 2,652 acres 3. There is the Town of Hempstead = 22,621 acres The pertinent geography: Hempstead is a village (incorporated in 1853) in the north-center section of the Town of Hempstead, in the central part of Nassau County. There are 22 villages (municipal corporations) and 36 hamlets (unincorporated areas) all or partly within the Town of Hempstead. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on its northern border and proceeding clockwise, the Village of Hempstead in the Town of Hempstead is bordered on the north by the Village of Garden City and the Hamlet of East Garden City; on the east by the Hamlets of East Garden City and Uniondale; on the south by the Hamlets of Baldwin and South Hempstead; and, on the west by the Hamlet of West Hempstead. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Village of Hempstead has a different border than does the "Hempstead, NY 11550" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Hempstead mailing address and not be in the Village of Hempstead). .........................................acres ....Village of Hempstead.......2,327 ....Hempstead, NY 11550.....2,652 The Town of Hempstead is 22,621 acres. As you can see from the above, about 12.5% of the places that have a "Hempstead" mailing address are not in the Village of Hempstead. (Portions of the Hamlets of East Garden City and South Hempstead have Hempstead, NY mailing addresses.) For those who have their copy of the 2004 or earlier editions of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Village of Hempstead (incorporated in 1853) in the Town of Hempstead, Nassau County on pages 5 & 8 (map) and 9 (population estimate). One final statistic: the Town of Hempstead is the most populous town (or township) in the U.S. The January 1, 2004 population is 760,675 (LIPA estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.