On 1/9/03 (11:51:08 AM MST), Albert Somers ([email protected]) asked, "My G-Grandfather and family are listed in the 1900 census as living in "Westbury Station". He died on June 8, 1900 as having died in "New Cassel". Would this area be considered one and the same? or Are they seperate areas?" Not exactly. The Hamlet of New Cassel was most probably within the borders of "Westbury Station", along with other areas. Currently, New Cassel is one of those many communities on Long Island where none of the places in New Cassel have a "New Cassel, NY" mailing address. All places in the Hamlet of New Cassel are in the "Westbury, NY 11590" postal zone. What confuses many people is that the majority of places with a "Westbury, NY" mailing address are NOT in Westbury! According to my calculation, more than two out of every three places with a "Westbury, NY" mailing address are NOT in the Village of Westbury and almost half the places with a "Westbury, NY" mailing address are NOT even in the Town of North Hempstead Quickly eyeballing the map overlay of the "11590" postal zip code versus village and hamlet borders, all or parts of the following 7 communities seem to be within the borders of the Westbury postal zone and hence all or some of the places in these communities have a Westbury, NY" mailing address: ......Hamlet of Jericho, Town of Oyster Bay ......Hamlet of Hicksville, Town of Oyster Bay ......Hamlet of Carle Place, Town of North Hempstead ......Village of Westbury, Town of North Hempstead ......Hamlet of New Cassel, Town of North Hempstead ......Hamlet of Salisbury, Town of Hempstead ......Hamlet of East Garden City, Town of Hempstead The pertinent geography: New Cassel is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the extreme southeastern section of the Town of North Hempstead, where the Town of North Hempstead converges with the Towns of Oyster Bay and Hempstead. There are 30 villages (incorporated municipalities) and 17 hamlets all or partly in the Town of North Hempstead. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of New Cassel in the Town of North Hempstead is bordered on the north by the Village of Westbury, Town of North Hempstead and the Hamlet of Jericho, Town of Oyster Bay (the North Hempstead/Oyster Bay Town line); on the east by the Hamlet of Hicksville, Town of Oyster Bay (the North Hempstead/Oyster Bay Town line); on the south by the Hamlet of Salisbury, Town of Hempstead (the North Hempstead/Hempstead Town line); and, on the west by the Village of Westbury. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Hamlet of New Cassel has a different border than does the postal zone that services its area. In this case, there is no "New Cassel, NY" postal zone. .................................................acres .....Hamlet of New Cassel..............956 .....New Cassel, NY ?????............none All places within the Hamlet of New Cassel are in the "Westbury, NY 11590" postal zone. For those who have their copy of the 2001 LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of New Cassel in the Town of North Hempstead, Nassau County on pages 5 & 6 (map) and 7 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

Would SKS who is already going to the Surrogate's office in Nassau County, please check to see if there is a file (and obtain that number for me) for Effie Cruise who died in December 1975 (so her probate may not have been filed until 1976.) THANK YOU! ~Judy in AZ

My G-Grandfather and family are listed in the 1900 census as living in "Westbury Station". He died on June 8, 1900 as having died in "New Cassel". Would this area be considered one and the same? or Are they seperate areas?

The upcoming meeting for Westchester County Genealogical Society is this coming Saturday. The Program is Westchester County Archives by the Director of the Archives Patricia Dohrnwend at the Westchester County Archive.  The archive is normally close on Saturday but the Westchester County Archive will be opened for the WCGS meeting.  This is truly a Special Event for WCGS. The meeting will be held at: When: Saturday, January 11, 2003 @ 10 a.m. Where: Westchester County Archives, 2199 Saw Mill River Road Elmsford, New York 10523 For directions to Westchester County Archives, go to http://www.westchestergov.com/wcarchives/loc.html?56,23 Remember to visit WCGS home page -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/ Hope you can come on Saturday! Good Luck! Philomena Dunn [email protected] Westchester County Genealogical Society Visit our web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~nywcgs/

Hello Would anyone know if there was a city directory for Nassau County in the 1930s? If so, Would SKS look for Matthew O'Neill for me. Wife: (Marie) Minnie, possible son Howard...Maybe living with brother in law Otto Senn. Cleveland St, Smithville So. Hempstead township... Thankyou Marie O'Neill --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

I am in search of an obit for William O. Goddard who died 28 Feb 1943 in Baldwin. He was an attorney practicing in the area. He was married to Genevieve M. Connor and had three children; Margaret, Katherine and William. I will be happy to pay for copies and postage. Janet in Baton Rouge, LA Don't cry because it is over; Smile because it happened.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lRB.2ACE/482 Message Board Post: I am researching my grandfather, Robert Arthur Haeger, b 12/27/1922, d 06/01/1978. He married around 1960 a lady named Joan. He owned the Westhampton Speedway for a while in the 1970's. Also owned Sportsman's Kennels. He went by Bob, Art, Robert, and Arthur; and the surname was spelled Hager and Haeger. I would love to find any relatives from this second marriage, his obituary, and any other information someone may have about him. Thank you!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Remisiewicz Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lRB.2ACE/58.139 Message Board Post: My name is also Remisiewicz. My father Gustav Henryk Remisiewicz was born in 1925 and was in the Polish army in the 2nd WW. He stayed in England (Yorkshire) when the war ended. Dad's parents divorced (scandal for Catholics) and he lived with his grandmother on her farm until war broke out. His father was Jan and his mother was Maria (d 1952). Jan Remisiewicz remarried and has three children from that marriage - Henryk, Marek and Elizabeth - all still living in Poland. We are in contact with Marek and Elizabeth but not Henryk. My parents also shortened their name to Remy. As we share an unusual Polish name, I wonder if we have any connection?

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 7:47 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Italian Genealogical Group Meeting > The Italian Genealogical Group will meet at the Bethpage (Long Island) Public > Library, 47 Powell Ave, Bethpage, NY, on Saturday, January 11, 2003. Italian > lessons will begin at 9:30 AM downstairs, and a Beginners Genealogy Workshop > will be held simultaneously in the upstairs reference room. The monthly > lecture will feature Mr. Albert Zani, who will speak about "Trentino Alto > Adige - Its Genealogy, History, and Culture." > The IGG meets on the second Saturday of each month. For further info, visit > our website at: http://www.italiangen.org > > Angela LaGiglia > IGG President >

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The Italian Genealogical Group announces its seventh annual seminar to be held at Molloy College (Rockville Center, Long Island, New York), on Saturday, March 22, from 8:30 AM to 4:30 PM. Featured speaker will be, John Colletta, celebrated author of They Came in Ships. The conference is co-hosted by the Sons of Italy. Advance registration for members of IGG or OSIA is $50, for non-members $55. This includes a boxed lunch. Walk-in registration will be $60. To register or find out more information about the seminar, e-mail [email protected] Angela LaGiglia IGG President

----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 4:52 PM Subject: (no subject) > The Italian Genealogy Group will hold its seventh annual seminar at Molloy > College (Rockville Centre, Long Island, New York) on Saturday, March 22, > 2003, from 8:30 to 4:30 PM. The seminar is co-hosted by the Sons of Italy. > Our featured speaker is John Colletta, celebrated author of They Came in > Ships. Cost of the seminar (including a boxed lunch) is as follows: > > To register or find out more information, e-mail [email protected] > > Angela LaGiglia > IGG President >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lRB.2ACE/163.1 Message Board Post: My birth name was George Francis Cunningham, born 7-20-46 in Brooklyn NY. I know of no living relatives!!

Hi folks, if you haven't already, it's time to update your virus checkers...:-( Regards, Unc http://home.att.net/~unclefred www.rootsweb.com/~nyessex

Hi folks, Happy new year! And For our newer list members, if someone sends you a warning about ANYTHING, and asks you to send it to everyone you know, or everyone in your address book, DONT! Please don't...Send it to me if you like, and I'll research it, and probably point you to a Hoax URL...:-) Having said that, I hope 2003 is your best year ever, God Bless.... and Regards, Listuncle http://home.att.net/~unclefred www.rootsweb.com/~nyessex

For your information.... Also wishing you a very Happy New Year, ListUncle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Unclefred" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 1:04 PM Subject: [Q-R] Fw: Massachusetts Vital Records Closed with H5158 bill passage! > > > Often we are in a position to study History, > from time to time, we are in a position to observe History, > more rarely, we are in a position to participate in the making of > History.. > > Study it out in your mind, then act as your conscience dictates... > > ListUncle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gordon A. Watts" <[email protected]> > To: "Canada Census Campaign" <[email protected]> > Cc: "Sharon Sergeant" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 12:38 PM > Subject: Massachusetts Vital Records Closed with H5158 bill passage! > > > > Greetings All. > > > > It appears that legislators in Massachusetts are once again attacking > > the free access to records vital to all who seek information on their > > ancestors. I pass the following message on for the benefit of our > many > > listers residing in the US and urge you to read this message carefully > > and act accordingly. Massachusetts is not the only State eyeing the > > closure of vital records and genealogists must be vigilant in advising > > misguided legislators that they do not wish this to happen. > > > > Sharon Sergeant and people she represents have been strong supporters > of > > our efforts to regain public access to our Post-1901 Census records in > > Canada. I urge all to show her the support that she has shown us. > > Forward her message to all you know that may be in a position to voice > > their opposition to this action. > > > > Happy New Year to all, and Happy Hunting. > > > > Gordon A. Watts [email protected] > > Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee > > Port Coquitlam, BC > > > > http://globalgenealogy.com/Census > > en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm > > ======================================= > > > > Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 19:54:11 -0800 (PST) > > From: Sharon Sergeant <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Subject: Massachusetts Vital Records Closed with H5158 bill passage! > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > > MASSACHUSETTS HOUSE BILL H5158 - OPEN RECORDS CLOSED! > > > > The Massachusetts Department of Public Health (MDPH) initiative to > > RESTRICT the current and historically OPEN vital records of the > > Commonwealth with House Bill H5158 HAS PASSED THE MA HOUSE TODAY > > December 30, 2002! > > > > All that remains is the Massachusetts Senate and Exiting Governor's > > rubber stamp & Did YOU have the opportunity to review the text and > give > > your testimony in HEARINGS? NO! > > > > Do you even have ACCESS to the H5158 text? NO! > > > > Behind closed doors and in the hallways of the legislature, taking > > advantage of the informal sessions, Lame Duck status and holidays, a > > handful of people have take away YOUR RIGHTS to YOUR HERITAGE! > > > > CONTACT YOUR MASSACHUSETTS SENATOR NOW! Tell them who the SILENT > > MAJORITY VOTERS are in their district who RELY ON OPEN MASSACHUSETTS > > VITAL RECORDS > > > > http://www.state.ma.us/legis/memmenus.htm > > > > CONTACT YOUR SENATORS! See > > > > http://www.state.ma.us/legis/sendis01.htm for 2001-2002 > > > > Just in case this ELEVENTH HOUR tactic actually passes to CLOSE > > MASSACHUSETTS VITAL RECORDS alert the 2003 legislators about YOUR > > CONCERNS on this matter! > > > > http://www.state.ma.us/legis/repdis03.htm > > and > > http://www.state.ma.us/legis/sendis03.htm > > > > IF YOUR LEGISLATORS DO NOT RESPOND OR ARE NOT AVAILABLE, CONTACT THE > > LEGISLATORS WHO HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE INFORMAL SESSIONS! > > > > O'Brien, Thomas J. Rep.ThomasO'[email protected] > > http://www.state.ma.us/legis/member/tjo1.htm > > > > Susan C. Fargo [email protected] > > http://www.state.ma.us/legis/member/scf0.htm > > > > SUMMARY: > > > > The Massachusetts Genealogical Council (MGC) initiative to STOP H5158 > > from passage at the tail end of the July 2002 formal sessions was > > successful - thanks to the response of all CONCERNED citizens in the > > genealogical community. Although the response of many legislators > > indicated that they had clearly not READ or did not UNDERSTAND the > > IMPLICATIONS of H5158, they did understand that large numbers of > > CONSTITUENTS are AGAINST RESTRICTIONS to the PUBLIC GOOD in the form > of > > POORLY DRAFTED legislation that has had NO PUBLIC HEARINGS! > > > > However, the Massachusetts Department of Public Health (MDPH) has > > CONTINUED their efforts! > > > > Specifically: December 2002 H5158 language changes have been chosen > for > > the purposes of OTHER BILLS that are not filed yet - Modernization and > > Fraud Control bills that ALSO have had NO PUBLIC HEARINGS! The MGC > > continues to be EXCLUDED from the permanent special vital records and > > statistics committee to oversee the overall improvement including > > preservation and automation of the vital records and statistics system > > in the commonwealth! > > > > Even though the MDPH has repeatedly said the MGC omission was "an > > oversight", this ERROR PERSISTS in the revisions! > > > > NO VERSION of H5158 has been made available to the public via the > > legislative web site since it's FIRST ELEVENTH HOUR introduction in > the > > July formal sessions > > > > http://www.state.ma.us/scripts/legis/ltsh.idq?HouseNumber=5158 > > > > The most recently reported MDPH H5158 wording changes appear as > attempts > > to clarify the previous problems, but introduce the UNKNOWN impact of > > the unfiled legislation PROPOSAL DEPENDENCIES! > > > > CONTACT YOUR SENATORS! See > > > > http://www.state.ma.us/legis/sendis01.htm for 2001-2002 > > > > NO CONTROVERSIAL BILL can be passed in informal sessions IF THE > > CONTROVERSY IS KNOWN! MAKE SURE YOUR SENATOR KNOWS THAT YOU DO NOT > > APPRECIATE BEING EXCLUDED FROM THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS! > > > > YOUR RIGHTS TO RECORDS TO RECORDS ACCESS DESERVE A PUBLIC HEARING! > > > > H5158 SHOULD NOT BE PASSED on DECEMBER 31, 2002! > > > > Sharon Sergeant > > Program Director, Massachusetts Genealogical Council > > > > http://massgencouncil.home.attbi.com/index.htm > > > > ===== > > Sharon Sergeant > > Ancestors and Ephemera http://GenealogyFair.com > > Bring Your Ancestors Home! > > > > > > > ==== QUEBEC-RESEARCH Mailing List ==== > Thanks to/Merci a Norman Cazavan for all his wonderful help. > Visit our Quebec list web page. la page Web Quebec: > Http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~unclefred/main.htm > and Read submission requests from 'Best Bill" > et lis les demandes pour poster de "Best Bill" > For the 1901 census campain visit:http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~downhome/committee.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lRB.2ACE/481 Message Board Post: I am looking for the Zipperian family of Sea Cliff. I am trying to find info on the Mrs. portion of this family as well as looking for living relatives. There was an obituary in my Peterson family reunion book that had the name of Mrs. Howard Zipperian of Sea Cliff, N.Y. I do know that she grew up in Bradford, Pa. I have her mothers name as Emily (Peterson) Swanson. I only have names of 1 sister, Dorthy (Cloud), brother Art & sister- Mrs. Ernest Palmer. ANY information would be greatly appreciated. This family was listed many times in the reunion book. There hasn't been one since 1973...until this next summer (2003). We want ALL family members to attend! I have LOTS of family history info to share! Thank you! Donna

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kershaw, Fox, Larkin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lRB.2ACE/478.1.1 Message Board Post: The breakdown of the towns, villages and hamlets was very interesting. I do believe, seeing the name that you wrote, the three children of Edwin Kershaw were born in the Town of Hempstead. But I didn't know of the Hamlet of East Garden City, so many thanks for the data.

I am seeking that address of a law firm in the Brooklyn area. I am seeking "Tanner, Sillcocks & Friend" which was in business in 1930. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Don't cry because it is over; Smile because it happened.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/rw/lRB.2ACE/80.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I can be contacted at [email protected] I would be really pleased to talk to you.