In a message dated 04/17/2000 11:59:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DCreely103@aol.com writes: << Andrew McNutt/McNitt did orchestrate a compelling and dramatic case for himself, to apply for a pension. However, he did participate in many battles--hard to reconcile that with family members being loyalists. Anything is possible. >> Have been following Andrew with interest, although he doesn't connect with my Montgomery Co lines. Two points, one being the dramatic case of poverty. One of my Clinton Co, NY ancestors lists his possessions in his pension application as an "old" this, and a "broken" that, and states he has a "weakly" wife, yet he was living with his son who had migrated to IL and the family apparently owned property. The second point, on another line, and this was the line that moved into Montgomery Co, one son served in the NY Militia from Dutchess Co, while another (who hasn't been proven to be a son but evidence points to it) was a loyalist from Albany Co who went to Canada in the 1790s. So yes, anything is possible. Mary Mary Slack Maynard Researching Slack, Gregory, Hopper, Bigelow/Bigalow, Nichols, Dunning, Mead, Fish in NY and New England, Nash, Maginn/McGinn, Donahue, Vokes in NY and Ireland, Aird and Crombie in NY and Scotland People will accept your ideas much more readily if you tell them that Benjamin Franklin said it first.