Mr. Smith, Just to let you know that there is material up at the Owen D. Young Library at St. Lawrence University on the Clinton Liberal Institute. I found a reference to it the other day and just wanted to make you aware of it. They can be reached at: St. Lawrence University Owen D. Young Library Park St. Canton, NY 13617 www.stlawu.edu/library The archivist/curator of rare books & special collections is Mark McMurray. His number is (315) 229-5476 or can be reached at: mmcm@music.stlawu.edu Good luck! Kelly A. Yacobucci Montgomery Co. Dept. of History & Archives > Has anyone every heard of the Clinton Liberal Institute? In the mid 1880's > it existed in Fort Plain. The institute was in some way associated with the > Universalist Church. There may also have been an association with St. > Lawrence University at Canton, NY.

The town clerk's office for Northampton is located in the Village of Northville. The address is: 412 S. Main St., Northville, NY 12134 phone: (518) 863-4040. Kelly Yacobucci Montgomery Co. Dept. of History & Archives > Thanks for your email. I would like tow rite to the town clerk of > Northampton, Fulton County, but do not have a zip code number. Do you know > if the name of that town has been changed to something else. What town is it > near? Thanks for your interest and reply. Dorothy

Kathy: I live about 20 miles from conshohocken Pa. Conshie is about 20 miles north of Philadelphia, and is in Montgomery County. The county seat is Norristown about 5 miles from conshie. The best place to get a directory for there is from the historical society. I found no address for it. contact the Lansdale Historical Society 137 Jenkins Ave. Lansdale, Pa 19446 Phone 215-855-1872 they can refer you to the right people Bud Neer ---------- > From: Kathy Jost Shouse <hardy@hitter.net> > To: NYMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYMONTGO] Conshohocken > Date: Saturday, February 12, 2000 2:07 PM > > I have found a notation that a family member, Blanche HOLTON lived in > Conshohocken in the 1930's and was wondering where the best place would be > to write to get a City Directory lookup for that time period. This is my > first attempt at research in Pennsylvania and am not familiar with the area > and research there. > > Thanks for any help that you can give me. > > Kathy Jost Shouse > > > ==== NYMONTGO Mailing List ==== > UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the message UNSUBSCRIBE to: > NYMONTGO-L-request@rootsweb.com or .... > NYMONTGO-D-request@rootsweb.com for DIGEST > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > 12.8 million individuals and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >

I have found a notation that a family member, Blanche HOLTON lived in Conshohocken in the 1930's and was wondering where the best place would be to write to get a City Directory lookup for that time period. This is my first attempt at research in Pennsylvania and am not familiar with the area and research there. Thanks for any help that you can give me. Kathy Jost Shouse

Why go all the way to a post office. The U.S. Postal Service has their own website. Go to www.usps.com and then click on Zip Codes They also have a lot of other info. Enjoy ==================== RchrdHayes@aol.com wrote: > Hi Dorothy, > > Check any Post Office or library. They all have a 2 volume set of US Zip > codes. > > Richard Hayes > >From the shores of Grand Traverse Bay > RchrdHayes@aol.com > > ==== NYMONTGO Mailing List ==== > Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites: http://www.cyndislist.com/ > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/

Hi Dorothy, Check any Post Office or library. They all have a 2 volume set of US Zip codes. Richard Hayes >From the shores of Grand Traverse Bay RchrdHayes@aol.com

I'm not sure if there is a connection here or not, but my great-grandmother, Mary CROSBY FERO was born in Glen, NY in 1836. Her mother was Philena (or Philomena) CROSBY (b. 1803, d. 1841) who married Issac W. FERO. I have been looking for Philena's family for a while without much success. The only other thing I have to go on is an old family letter that says she (Philena) was first-cousin to Fanny Crosby, the blind hymn writer. That would make Philena's father brother to one of Fanny's parents. Since Fanny's parents were cousins and both surname Crosby, I have been able to get any further. Philena Crosby and Issac Fero also had a daughter Sophia b. 1833; a son Issac who married Angenora PRAMER in the Independent Calvanistical Church, Sharon, Schoharie County, New York in 1861 and daughter Ruhama who married John R. PAL MER. If any of these looks familiar to you, let me know. Kathy S. schzhanik@aol.com

I have learned from the wonderful people at the Montgomery Co. Dept. of History & Archives that my gggrandfather's name, Theodore P. Davis, appears in the City Directory for Amsterdam in the year 1886-87. With the news of the NY State Archives no longer doing death index lookups after February 15th, I no longer have time to order the city directory films from FHL to track down exactly when his name no longer appears. Is there someone who could look in the years following 1886-87 to determine when he no longer is listed? I thank you so much for your help!!! Kathy Jost Shouse

Thanks for your email. I would like tow rite to the town clerk of Northampton, Fulton County, but do not have a zip code number. Do you know if the name of that town has been changed to something else. What town is it near? Thanks for your interest and reply. Dorothy

Hi Dorothy, There is an Andrew McNUTT listed in the 1790 Montgomery County Census. He was living in Caughnawaga, now called Fonda. The only McNUTT listed in the Tryon County Malitia is James McNUTT. He was a private in the 4th Regiment. There is no listing in Maryly B. Penrose's "Compendium of Mohawk Valley Families". I would suggest that you look him up in a Rev War pension book. There are microfilm copies of the pension files available in a number of libraries. Richard Hayes >From the shores of Grand Traverse Bay RchrdHayes@aol.com

I am looking for any one research any of these names. They all are from Montgomery County, NY William CROSBY OF Glen, NY b. 1821 d. 4/13/1893 married Marie HILTZ (Myere HITLC) of Glen, NY. Their Children: Margaret married Mr. Rector Albert Alice CROSBY married John Sanpherd CODDINGTON Their Children: Jay CODDINGTON William CODDINGTON Albert CODDINGTON John Hiltz CROSBY b 1857 Randall, NY died 1891 New Haven, CT. m. Katherine Frances Veronica SMITH, of New York City. Her mother was a Corrigan from Ireland. Their children: William C. CROSBY b. July 20, 1882, New York City died January 05,1947, So. Acton,MA m. Vinnie Olmstead OLMSTEAD b. April 04,1882 d. March 23, 1963, Westford, MA. Their Ch.: John Hiltz CROSBY Mabel Storrie CROSBY Carol Leone CROSBY John CROSBY, b. January 1884, d. January 1884 Randall, Montgomery Co., NY Alonzo CROSBY, b. 1886, d. 1971, New Haven, CT. Mary CROSBY, b. 1889, New Haven, CT. Alice CROSBY, b. August 17, 1891 new Haven, CT., d. July 01,1986, Milford, CT. Thank a million Leita LBrown1812@aol.com

Any information out there re this Rev. War Veteran, wife, Esther? His children? Thanks very much, Dorothy

Re; William Lott of Montgomery and Orleans Co. N.Y. Thanks for the input Ray, I have an Abraham Lott in the Montgomery Co. Census of 1790 with 3 males 0-16, 3 males 16+ and 4 females. No other Lott's listed until 1810 then Peter is listed also. "Father" William Lott is buried at Lynhaven Cemetary with birth and death dated listed on his tombstone, and I have a copy of his obit. How would I go about getting something on this Abraham???? It was so early that I can't seem to find any records on him! Two sources tell me that Amraham Lott was buried at what was call Lott Cemetary and Angling Rd. Cemetary in Orleans Co. Orleans Co. GENWEB has him listed under another name. I also know that he was an alcoholic and used "profane swearing" and was dismissed on May 4, 1808 from the First Baptist Church of Charleston, Montgomery Co. N.Y. (Oh, well there's one in every family). Please advise, Can use all the help I can get! Thanks again! Sandi NYMONTGO-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > NYMONTGO-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 13 > > Today's Topics: > #1 William Lott [Sandra Burns <t1960@gte.net>] > #2 Re: [NYMONTGO] Clinton Liberal Ins [History & Archives <histarch@super] > #3 [NYMONTGO] Lott ["Raymond Kuehne" <raykue@sginet.co] > #4 Re: [NYMONTGO] Gardinier, Rachel [MMayn93990@aol.com] > #5 Re: [NYMONTGO] Gardinier, Rachel ["Nancy Curran" <NANCYCURRAN@prodig] > #6 Re: [NYMONTGO] Fonda look-up ["Joanne Garland" <jogar@javanet.co] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from NYMONTGO-D, send a message to > > NYMONTGO-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To contact the list administrator, send mail to > NYMONTGO-admin@rootsweb.com. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: William Lott > Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 09:16:49 -0500 > From: Sandra Burns <t1960@gte.net> > To: NYMONTGO-D@rootsweb.com > > Need help, looking for the parents of William Lott born July 27, 1797 in > Montgomery Co. N.Y. Where do I look for such information? I have been > looking for 2 years without any luck. William went on to become a well > loved Minister and pioneer in Orleans Co. N.Y. He died Jan. 11, 1883 in > Orleans County. I would really appreciate any advice. > Thanks! Sandi Lott-Burns > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [NYMONTGO] Clinton Liberal Institute > Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 09:06:05 -0800 > From: History & Archives <histarch@superior.net> > To: NYMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > When the Universalist Church closed in 1997, we received a great deal of > their records. However, all of those pertaining to the Clinton Liberal > Institute, we deaccessioned to the Fort Plain Museum as they have a good > collection on the CLI. I believe that the Fort Plain Library may also > have some material on that institution. > > In the very near future, our department will be coming out with a > booklet on the History of the all Minden Churches including those that > were in the Village of Fort Plain. This booklet, price yet to be > determined, will have photos and will contain a brief history of the > churches, a list of ministers and the dates they served, as well as a > present location of records for each church (to the best of our > determination). > > The Fort Plain Museum is closed for the season but they can still be > contacted at: 324 CAnal St., Fort Plain, NY 13339; (518)993-2527 leave > a message on the machine and someone will get back to you. (If you have > any difficulty let me know because I am on the Board of Trustees there) > Good luck! > > Kelly A. Yacobucci > Assistant County HIstorian > Montgomery Co. Dept. of History & Archives > histarch@superior.net > > > Has anyone every heard of the Clinton Liberal Institute? In the mid 1880's > > it existed in Fort Plain. The institute was in some way associated with the > > Universalist Church. There may also have been an association with St. > > Lawrence University at Canton, NY. > > > > Thanks much, > > > > Roger Smith <ERDFEST@worldnet.att.net> > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [NYMONTGO] Lott > Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:15:41 -0700 > From: "Raymond Kuehne" <raykue@sginet.com> > To: NYMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > Sandi: > > Regarding your "William Lott born July 27, 1797 in Montgomery Co. > N.Y." > > Unless you are lucky to find someone with that information, you would > need to do some research. I would begin my research with one of > the following approaches. > > First, how do you know his exact birth date? What other clues are in > that source? We are usually told to start with what we know, and > proceed from there. If you have an exact birth date, look closely at > that source for additional clues. > > Second, you could look for Lott families in the 1800 census. How many > Lott families in Montgomery County have a male child under age five? > Knowing that could narrow your search. > > If you have a couple of candidate parents, look for wills and probate > records on them. They would usually list surviving children. > > Those are just a few examples of how you could proceed with research, > if you aren't handed the information on a silver platter. > > Good luck, > > Ray > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [NYMONTGO] Gardinier, Rachel > Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 18:58:08 EST > From: MMayn93990@aol.com > To: NYMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > In a message dated 02/08/2000 9:43:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, > clifflamere@global2000.net writes: > > << Things are complicated by the fact that an 1808 bp. occurred at > Caughnawaga RDC, the parents being Rachel Van Derbergh and Nicholas F. > Gardineer. Sounds like the same couple to me, but was the woman really > having children for 24 years? >> > Cliff, it's a distinct possibility that she was. My great grandmother had > her first child in 1879 (she was 16) and her last child in 1908. > > Mary Slack Maynard > Researching Slack, Gregory, Hopper, Bigelow/Bigalow, Nichols, Dunning, Mead, > Fish in NY and New England, Nash, Maginn/McGinn, Donahue, Vokes in NY and > Ireland, Aird and Crombie in NY and Scotland > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [NYMONTGO] Gardinier, Rachel > Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:03:33 -0500 > From: "Nancy Curran" <NANCYCURRAN@prodigy.net> > To: NYMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > Without birth control, a woman's reproductive years may span from 13 to 50. > (Shudder). > By the time her last child is born, she could well be a grandmother, if her > children are young parents. > Nancy > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [NYMONTGO] Fonda look-up > Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:26:55 -0500 > From: "Joanne Garland" <jogar@javanet.com> > To: NYMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi Kelly, > > Thanks so much for checking this, and saving me from a fruitless all-day > trip to Fonda. I have double-checked my source for this reference. It is > possible that a typo in my own source, or a transcription error in my > notetaking, led me to believe that this primary source was shelved in the > archive at Fonda. > > My source is the following reference book: "Guide to historical resources in > Mongtomery County, New York, repositories," published by New York Historical > Resources Center, Olin Library Cornell University, 1983. This book is call > #CD3407.M7 G8 in the library of the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, > Mass., http://umlibr.library.umass.edu , and the ISBN/ISSN is 13956935. > > This reference lists "Papers of a Fort Plain Physician" and gives the > location of this volume by referring to an alphanumeric code that is written > in my notes as MT 292-520-002, for which MT 292 #520 refers, in the volume's > key, to the Montgomery County Dept. of History and Archives. It is possible > that I made an error in copying this information into my notebook, and that > this material is actually shelved elsewhere in Montgomery County. Perhaps > you have a copy of the book "Guide to historical resources in Montgomery > County...," and a quick check of it might clear up such an error. > > The obstetrical record book of Ft. Plain Dr. Douglas Ayres 1868-80, if it is > indeed available, could provide valuable primary evidence for birth dates > during a time when birth certificates had not yet become commonplace. Thank > you again for your interest in this resource. > > Joanne Garland > > -----Original Message----- > From: History & Archives <histarch@superior.net> > To: NYMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com <NYMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 12:30 PM > Subject: Re: [NYMONTGO] Fonda look-up > > >Joanne, > > > >Our staff, here at the Dept. of History & Archives in Fonda, has checked > >our archival index and files on the shelf for "Papers of a Fort Plain > >Physician" and we are unable to locate this material. Can you tell me > >the source from where you got your information that we have that data > >here? I have checked around with the Fort Plain Museum, the Fort Plain > >Library, and our former historian here and no one seems to be familiar > >with this. > > > >I was told that someone out in Red Wing, Michigan may have gotten hold > >of some of the Ayres family papers as Mrs. Ayres was from there > >originally before marrying Dr. Ayres. Let me know, and I will try to > >help more if I am able. > > > >Kelly A. Yacobucci > >Asst. County Historian > >Montgomery Co. Dept. of History & Archives > > > >> If anyone is stopping in at the archives in Fonda and would be willing to > do > >> a look-up, I would sincerely appreciate it! > >> > >> They have a work called "Papers of a Fort Plain Physician," including > >> obstetrical record book, 1868-80, Dr. Douglas Ayres papers 1868-1915. > >> > >> I am seeking page numbers of any mention of a female child born to Mrs. > >> Richard Harrison (nee Alvira Van Etta) in Ft. Plain on 23 April, 1873. I > >> believe that this family lived on the Erie Canal towpath in Ft. Plain. > >> > >> Many thanks! > >> > >> Joanne Garland > >> (Massachusetts) > > > >______________________________

Without birth control, a woman's reproductive years may span from 13 to 50. (Shudder). By the time her last child is born, she could well be a grandmother, if her children are young parents. Nancy

Hi Kelly, Thanks so much for checking this, and saving me from a fruitless all-day trip to Fonda. I have double-checked my source for this reference. It is possible that a typo in my own source, or a transcription error in my notetaking, led me to believe that this primary source was shelved in the archive at Fonda. My source is the following reference book: "Guide to historical resources in Mongtomery County, New York, repositories," published by New York Historical Resources Center, Olin Library Cornell University, 1983. This book is call #CD3407.M7 G8 in the library of the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, Mass., http://umlibr.library.umass.edu , and the ISBN/ISSN is 13956935. This reference lists "Papers of a Fort Plain Physician" and gives the location of this volume by referring to an alphanumeric code that is written in my notes as MT 292-520-002, for which MT 292 #520 refers, in the volume's key, to the Montgomery County Dept. of History and Archives. It is possible that I made an error in copying this information into my notebook, and that this material is actually shelved elsewhere in Montgomery County. Perhaps you have a copy of the book "Guide to historical resources in Montgomery County...," and a quick check of it might clear up such an error. The obstetrical record book of Ft. Plain Dr. Douglas Ayres 1868-80, if it is indeed available, could provide valuable primary evidence for birth dates during a time when birth certificates had not yet become commonplace. Thank you again for your interest in this resource. Joanne Garland -----Original Message----- From: History & Archives <histarch@superior.net> To: NYMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com <NYMONTGO-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [NYMONTGO] Fonda look-up >Joanne, > >Our staff, here at the Dept. of History & Archives in Fonda, has checked >our archival index and files on the shelf for "Papers of a Fort Plain >Physician" and we are unable to locate this material. Can you tell me >the source from where you got your information that we have that data >here? I have checked around with the Fort Plain Museum, the Fort Plain >Library, and our former historian here and no one seems to be familiar >with this. > >I was told that someone out in Red Wing, Michigan may have gotten hold >of some of the Ayres family papers as Mrs. Ayres was from there >originally before marrying Dr. Ayres. Let me know, and I will try to >help more if I am able. > >Kelly A. Yacobucci >Asst. County Historian >Montgomery Co. Dept. of History & Archives > >> If anyone is stopping in at the archives in Fonda and would be willing to do >> a look-up, I would sincerely appreciate it! >> >> They have a work called "Papers of a Fort Plain Physician," including >> obstetrical record book, 1868-80, Dr. Douglas Ayres papers 1868-1915. >> >> I am seeking page numbers of any mention of a female child born to Mrs. >> Richard Harrison (nee Alvira Van Etta) in Ft. Plain on 23 April, 1873. I >> believe that this family lived on the Erie Canal towpath in Ft. Plain. >> >> Many thanks! >> >> Joanne Garland >> (Massachusetts) > >______________________________

In a message dated 02/08/2000 9:43:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, clifflamere@global2000.net writes: << Things are complicated by the fact that an 1808 bp. occurred at Caughnawaga RDC, the parents being Rachel Van Derbergh and Nicholas F. Gardineer. Sounds like the same couple to me, but was the woman really having children for 24 years? >> Cliff, it's a distinct possibility that she was. My great grandmother had her first child in 1879 (she was 16) and her last child in 1908. Mary Slack Maynard Researching Slack, Gregory, Hopper, Bigelow/Bigalow, Nichols, Dunning, Mead, Fish in NY and New England, Nash, Maginn/McGinn, Donahue, Vokes in NY and Ireland, Aird and Crombie in NY and Scotland

When the Universalist Church closed in 1997, we received a great deal of their records. However, all of those pertaining to the Clinton Liberal Institute, we deaccessioned to the Fort Plain Museum as they have a good collection on the CLI. I believe that the Fort Plain Library may also have some material on that institution. In the very near future, our department will be coming out with a booklet on the History of the all Minden Churches including those that were in the Village of Fort Plain. This booklet, price yet to be determined, will have photos and will contain a brief history of the churches, a list of ministers and the dates they served, as well as a present location of records for each church (to the best of our determination). The Fort Plain Museum is closed for the season but they can still be contacted at: 324 CAnal St., Fort Plain, NY 13339; (518)993-2527 leave a message on the machine and someone will get back to you. (If you have any difficulty let me know because I am on the Board of Trustees there) Good luck! Kelly A. Yacobucci Assistant County HIstorian Montgomery Co. Dept. of History & Archives histarch@superior.net > Has anyone every heard of the Clinton Liberal Institute? In the mid 1880's > it existed in Fort Plain. The institute was in some way associated with the > Universalist Church. There may also have been an association with St. > Lawrence University at Canton, NY. > > Thanks much, > > Roger Smith <ERDFEST@worldnet.att.net>

Sandi: Regarding your "William Lott born July 27, 1797 in Montgomery Co. N.Y." Unless you are lucky to find someone with that information, you would need to do some research. I would begin my research with one of the following approaches. First, how do you know his exact birth date? What other clues are in that source? We are usually told to start with what we know, and proceed from there. If you have an exact birth date, look closely at that source for additional clues. Second, you could look for Lott families in the 1800 census. How many Lott families in Montgomery County have a male child under age five? Knowing that could narrow your search. If you have a couple of candidate parents, look for wills and probate records on them. They would usually list surviving children. Those are just a few examples of how you could proceed with research, if you aren't handed the information on a silver platter. Good luck, Ray

Need help, looking for the parents of William Lott born July 27, 1797 in Montgomery Co. N.Y. Where do I look for such information? I have been looking for 2 years without any luck. William went on to become a well loved Minister and pioneer in Orleans Co. N.Y. He died Jan. 11, 1883 in Orleans County. I would really appreciate any advice. Thanks! Sandi Lott-Burns

Marsha, I am very interested in Gardenier information from ANYWHERE. The earliest Gardeniers lived in the areas that would be today's Albany Co., southern Rensselaer Co., and Columbia Co Many families then moved to the Mohawk Valley. Some went to Canada, some to the US mid-west. The ones that I have from Montgomery Co. seem to have had only one, two or three children, then they are absent from the bp. record. They may have moved elsewhere to find work and raise their family comfortably. I would like to know where they went. Any information that you or anybody have about Gardeniers would be welcome. Thank you for the information on Gardeniers that you already sent. Part of the Quackenbush information was new for me. My comments below may be of some small help to you. Concerning your #1 Rachel Gardenier, here are her parents. 1 Johannes QUACKENBOS ... +Rachel GARDENIER bp. 2 Jan 1726 at Albany Reformed Dutch Church, Albany Co., NY m: c. 1745 Father: Nicolaes (Claes) GARDENIER Mother: Rachel WINNE Concerning your #2 Rachel Gardenier, this is a difficult case. She was not a Gardenier except by marriage. That name appears in her marriage record because, as it says, she was a widow of Nicholas J. Gardenier. I believe Rachel's maiden name was either Barhydt or Van Denbergh. The same man may have married both Rachels, the first marriage, to Rachel Van Denbergh, taking place in 1784. His middle initial was listed as J. in that marriage record. I have no date for a marriage to Rachel Barhydt. Things are complicated by the fact that an 1808 bp. occurred at Caughnawaga RDC, the parents being Rachel Van Derbergh and Nicholas F. Gardineer. Sounds like the same couple to me, but was the woman really having children for 24 years? And was his middle initial really F. or J.? Another confirming record is needed. I have a promising Nicholas Gardenier (son of Jacob, so middle initial J. is reasonable) who was married to Rachel Barhydt. He died in Dec 1813. This also sounds promising. Your Rachel, widow of Nicholas J. Gardinier, remarried (to David Quackenbush) in 1816, so I believe that I have the correct man. I do not have birth dates or a marriage date for Nicholas and Rachel, which would be helpful. Your estimated date of birth for Rachel should be pushed back to about 1785-1790 in order to give her time for a first marriage (unless you are certain your estimated date is very close to correct). I could not find a bp. record for Rachel Barhydt at Reformed Churches at Caughnawaga (Fonda), Glen, Middletown (now Mapletown), Schenectady, Albany, Kinderhook, or Kingston. I mention these only to encourage confidence in the one bp. record of a Rachel that I did find, which was at the Schodack RDC at Muitzeskill, Rensselaer Co., NY. This Rachel is the likely Rachel to be the one in this marriage to Nicholas J. Gardenier and David Quackenbush. Of course, other church records should also be checked. Here is that one record: Born 6 Dec 1790, bp. 9 Jan 1791. Rachel, of Wouter Barheyd and Cathrina Hugenaar. [no wit.] Cliff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ C M Strong wrote: > Hello Cliff, Jeanne, Phyllis, Pat, and other interested listers: > > I have Gardiniers marrying into my Quackenbush line -- > as Pat noted, I have seen the name also spelled with > an "o" -- in one of the Caughnawaga DRC records it > was quite clearly written as "Gordineer" -- I hadn't > thought to check indices for that speeling until I > saw that record. > > Anyway, here's who I have -- > > (1) Rachel Gardinier, born about 1720, d/o Nicholas > and Rachel, married Johannes QUACKENBOSCH, b. 1718, > s/o Peter and Neeltje Marinus Quackenbosch. > > (2) Rachel Gardinier, born about 1796, d/o ?? (sister > of Jacob, following-?) married David Quackenbush (s/o > Isaac and Dirckje (Van Alstyne) on 27 Jan 1816; DRC of > Caughnawaga, Montgomery Co. > > [obviously "Rachel" was a *very* popular name in this > family - yours was Rachel too wasn't it, Jeanne?] > > (3) Jacob Gordineer, born abt 1790, s/o ??, married > Rachel Quackenbush, d/o Abraham and Catrina (Huff) > on 17 Oct 1813; DRC of Caughnawaga, Montgomery Co. > > I think I also have some Gardiniers marrying into > either my Westfall or Countryman branches -- these > three were right fresh in my memory as I am doing > some work right now on this branch. Is this the > kind of info you are looking for, Cliff? Also, do > you want these marriages if they are *other than* > Montgomery County?? > > Marsha Strong > Gainesville, FL