This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: erdajoca Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.monroe/12134/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for parentage of Barnabus Perry who came to Ontario Canada abt 1797 with young family. He came from Orange North Carolina. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: erdajoca Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.monroe/12133/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for info on Esther McMaster who died in Monroe county New York in 1822. Her son William married Elizabeth Smith and moved to Ontario Canada abt 1816. Looking for William's marriage info and his father's name. Any further info on his parents would be helpful. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LocalHistoryDivRPL Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.monroe/12132.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Following the 1930 census, it appears that Mowry and Dora (his wife) moved to where they could work at the Gowanda State Hospital in Erie County. This might be because he was listed as a "trained nurse", and as another has written, Industry/Rush was primarily a school for delinquents, awhile Gowanda is a psychiatric hospital. The former Gowanda State Hospital was turned into Collins/Gowanda Correctional Facility in the early 1990's. Others have posted that he was the grandson of Isaac Skinkle, and there is a family tree in WorldConnect for Isaac. OTOH, his draft card for WW I says that he is a school supervisor. He may have worked for the state, in which case there might be pension records for him. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Could the person who has the Episcopal Church record book examine it for any births, marriages, deaths for the children of Asa Wells and wife Nancy?  (This would be Eliza, Harriet, Nelson, Henry, Anson and Elvira Wells.) Elvira died in 1828 and Asa in 1829. Nancy supposed died in 1855, past the dates in the book. Did the Baptist Church records from early 1800s in Monroe  County survive, also?   I would be interested in examining those, too. Margie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: halsey38 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.monroe/12132.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think a better term to call the school would be a reform school. They moved from Rochester out to Rush about 1908 and it was set up with cottages that could handle somewhere between 20 to 30 boys. There is a fairly good web page at: http://www.correctionhistory.org/sheriffs/rochester/html/rochjails_theory1.html I helped deliver a pool table there in the late 1970s and there was a 8 foot fence around the whole complex. In the last 30 years they have been getting harder criminals. When I went past the complex this spring, they now have a 15 foot fence with razor wire on top. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Not the same place. He's asking about the one in Rush. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bohrer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [NYMONROE] State Agricultural & Industrial School Kay, give this a try. Basically it was a prison. http://www.rochester.lib.ny.us/rochimag/architecture/LostRochester/WesternHouse/WesternHouse.htm ----- Original Message ---- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, December 16, 2010 1:38:16 AM Subject: [NYMONROE] State Agricultural & Industrial School This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KKing1510 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.monroe/12132/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone know anything about the State Agricultural & Industrial School at Rush, NY? It shows up on the 1920 census, but google didn't turn up much. There seem to be numerous "Heads" on a lot of farms, but within the household of these farms are "Officers" (that the relation given to the Head), but then they are listed with occupations like "Teacher". I'm trying to better understand what was happening. In particular, I am looking at the household of Mowry Skinkle at this url (if it posts): http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6061&iid=4313452-00399&fn=Mowry&ln=Skinkle&st=r&ssrc=&pid=19142479. Thanks! - Kay Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The State of NY, School at Industry (rt 251 between the W. Henrietta Rd and Scottsville) began primarily as a place to corral unwanted and unemployable children. They were nearly self sustaining, producing much of the food on its self contained farm. I was there about 1953 to play an exhibition softball game. I recall small buildings as living quarters for the "inmates" Males and females were seperate, but it was quite obvious that much fraternization had been going on. Mostly white then, and obviously retards. that we know today as Downs Syndrome. I believe the place still operates and has about 100 inmates, who if teachable, can attend grades 6-12. --- On Thu, 12/16/10, Susan <[email protected]> wrote: From: Susan <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NYMONROE] State Agricultural & Industrial School To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 12:33 PM Not the same place.  He's asking about the one in Rush. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bohrer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [NYMONROE] State Agricultural & Industrial School Kay, give this a try. Basically it was a prison. http://www.rochester.lib.ny.us/rochimag/architecture/LostRochester/WesternHouse/WesternHouse.htm ----- Original Message ---- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, December 16, 2010 1:38:16 AM Subject: [NYMONROE] State Agricultural & Industrial School This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KKing1510 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.monroe/12132/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone know anything about the State Agricultural & Industrial School at Rush, NY? It shows up on the 1920 census, but google didn't turn up much. There seem to be numerous "Heads" on a lot of farms, but within the household of these farms are "Officers" (that the relation given to the Head), but then they are listed with occupations like "Teacher". I'm trying to better understand what was happening. In particular, I am looking at the household of Mowry Skinkle at this url (if it posts): http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6061&iid=4313452-00399&fn=Mowry&ln=Skinkle&st=r&ssrc=&pid=19142479. Thanks! - Kay Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kay, give this a try. Basically it was a prison. http://www.rochester.lib.ny.us/rochimag/architecture/LostRochester/WesternHouse/WesternHouse.htm ----- Original Message ---- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, December 16, 2010 1:38:16 AM Subject: [NYMONROE] State Agricultural & Industrial School This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KKing1510 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.monroe/12132/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone know anything about the State Agricultural & Industrial School at Rush, NY?  It shows up on the 1920 census, but google didn't turn up much.  There seem to be numerous "Heads" on a lot of farms, but within the household of these farms are "Officers" (that the relation given to the Head), but then they are listed with occupations like "Teacher".  I'm trying to better understand what was happening. In particular, I am looking at the household of Mowry Skinkle at this url (if it posts):  http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6061&iid=4313452-00399&fn=Mowry&ln=Skinkle&st=r&ssrc=&pid=19142479. Thanks! - Kay Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KKing1510 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.monroe/12132/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone know anything about the State Agricultural & Industrial School at Rush, NY? It shows up on the 1920 census, but google didn't turn up much. There seem to be numerous "Heads" on a lot of farms, but within the household of these farms are "Officers" (that the relation given to the Head), but then they are listed with occupations like "Teacher". I'm trying to better understand what was happening. In particular, I am looking at the household of Mowry Skinkle at this url (if it posts): http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6061&iid=4313452-00399&fn=Mowry&ln=Skinkle&st=r&ssrc=&pid=19142479. Thanks! - Kay Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LocalHistoryDivRPL Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.monroe/12127.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The only thing I can think of off the bat, it that a child married in to the McArthurs, or they knew them from Canada Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: donkeyskickasstoo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.monroe/12127.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks again for the info. However, the Lewis Green I have married to Mariah M. (Babcock), died in Frontenac, Ontario in 1890. I am just unclear as to why Mariah is buried in the plot of McArthur. I cannot find any birth record for her but on the census, she states she was born in Upper Canada. I emailed the cemetary and the info is the same. Any suggestions? Thanks, Debbie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LocalHistoryDivRPL Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.monroe/12127.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The entry for Maria Babcock Green in the West Webster cemetery reads: GREEN, Mariah M. Babcock, wife of Lewis; mother; [on McArthur lot]; 1844 - 1911 (http://mcnygenealogy.com/cem/westwebs.htm). The 1851-1897 newspaper index has: http://www.libraryweb.org/~digitized/newsindex/1851-1897/Index28GER-GRE.pdf GREEN, LOUIS, Died, UA Ag 31, 1872, 3-7 (Union and Advertiser newspaper page 3 column 7) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: donkeyskickasstoo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.monroe/12127.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the information you sent to me. I will continue looking. Thanks again, Debbie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LocalHistoryDivRPL Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.monroe/3637.2.1.3.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The 1855 census of Wheatland (Mumford, Monroe County NY) has: James Bellew, age 28, born Ireland, here 1 year Rose Bellew, age 60 , mother, born Ireland, here 1 year Richard Bellew, age 40, brother, born Ireland, here 1 year and there is a Biggers family also from Ireland, here 1 month as of June 1 1855. There are several Bellews in the 1851-1897 newspaper index: http://www.libraryweb.org/~digitized/newsindex/1851-1897/Index7BAY-BLU.pdf This MIGHT be the ship: New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about James Bellew Name: James Bellew Arrival Date: 26 Apr 1853 Birth Year: abt 1833 Age: 20 Ethnicity/Race- /Nationality: Irish Place of Origin: Ireland Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination: United States of America Port of Arrival: New York Port Arrival State: New York Port Arrival Country: United States Ship Name: Abby Blanchard Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RobertaIrving50 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.monroe/386.2731.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the information. I live near Rochester, NY and will make a trip when we get nicer weather to visit my 3rd Great Grandfather on my Grandfathers side. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LocalHistoryDivRPL Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.monroe/386.2731.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Pittsford Cemetery records (for the large cemetery on East Ave. in Pittsford) shows that Morgan Dunham died and was buried there on March 20, 1879, aged 75 years, 7 months, and 19 days. His wife Maria V. was buried there on July 18, 1849, aged 42 years, 6 months, 10 days. The 1855 census of Monroe County (not yet online) shows: Morgan Dunham, aged 51, born in SAS [not legible!], here 4 years Sarah Dunham, wife, aged 51, born in Dutchess County NY, here 4 years Mary Ann aged 25, born in [nothing given], here 4 years Charles E, aged 19, born in Ontario County NY, here 4 years John W, aged 16, born in Ontario County, here 4 years James A, aged 12, born in Ontario County, here 4 years. The 1865 census of Monroe County is available for free on the LDS web site, www.familysearch.org 1855 and 1865 given the county of birth of people. 1865 is not yet indexed (we got the 1855 info from the card index in the division.) You might also want to try the newspaper index: http://www3.libraryweb.org/lh.aspx?id=963&ekmensel=c57dfa7b_12_38_963_9 It has, among other things, DUNHAM, MORGAN (Pittsford), Died. UA Mr 20, 1879 3-9 The Union and Advertiser was a newspaper of the time. Perhaps tracing their movement with in NY state would provide more answers. Some other postings in WorldConnect shows him being born in Saratoga County, which is a pretty close approximation of the SAS in the 1855 census. (see: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=delcy3&id=I18475)That has links going back to 1599 in England. There are also some seemingly inaccurate contributions in there! David Dunhma is one of the contributors, and he also mentions James T. Dunham, Gratia Dunham Mahoney, Patricia Junkin, Marine Damvelt, and Audrey Shields Hancock in his post. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LocalHistoryDivRPL Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.monroe/386.2731.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Pittsford Cemetery records (for the large cemetery on East Ave. in Pittsford) shows that Morgan Dunham died and was buried there on March 20, 1879, aged 75 years, 7 months, and 19 days. His wife Maria V. was buried there on July 18, 1849, aged 42 years, 6 months, 10 days. The 1855 census of Monroe County (not yet online) shows: Morgan Dunham, aged 51, born in SAS [not legible!], here 4 years Sarah Dunham, wife, aged 51, born in Dutchess County NY, here 4 years Mary Ann aged 25, born in [nothing given], here 4 years Charles E, aged 19, born in Ontario County NY, here 4 years John W, aged 16, born in Ontario County, here 4 years James A, aged 12, born in Ontario County, here 4 years. The 1865 census of Monroe County is available for free on the LDS web site, www.familysearch.org 1855 and 1865 given the county of birth of people. 1865 is not yet indexed (we got the 1855 info from the card index in the division.) You might also want to try the newspaper index: http://www3.libraryweb.org/lh.aspx?id=963&ekmensel=c57dfa7b_12_38_963_9 It has, among other things, DUNHAM, MORGAN (Pittsford), Died. UA Mr 20, 1879 3-9 The Union and Advertiser was a newspaper of the time. Perhaps tracing their movement with in NY state would provide more answers. Some other postings in WorldConnect shows him being born in Saratoga County, which is a pretty close approximation of the SAS in the 1855 census. (see: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=delcy3&id=I18475)That has links going back to 1599 in England. There are also some seemingly inaccurate contributions in there! David Dunhma is one of the contributors, and he also mentions James T. Dunham, Gratia Dunham Mahoney, Patricia Junkin, Marine Damvelt, and Audrey Shields Hancock in his post. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RobertaIrving50 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.monroe/386.2731.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Mom is a daughter of Lorenzo John Ames, married to Elsie they lived in Conquest and I am looking for information regarding Morgan Dunham and Maria Vincent. I can't seem to find their parents names in any of the information that I have located. Can you help? Thanks, Roberta Ausburn-Irving Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LocalHistoryDivRPL Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.monroe/12131.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Go to your local public library and ask them to request a copy of that page. Here's the bibliographic record that they might use: Author Hatcher, Patricia Law. Title Abstract of graves of revolutionary patriots by Patricia Law Hatcher. Publisher Dallas, Tex. : Pioneer Heritage Press, c1987-c1988. Paging 4 v. ; 24 cm. Notes Spine title: Graves of revolutionary patriots. "The material in this book is an abstract of, and index to, information reported by the National Society Daughters of the American Revolution, and published in their annual reports to the Smithsonian Institute [sic], printed as Senate documents (1900-1974), published by the Society in a separate volume (1975-1977) and published annually in the DAR magazine (1978-1987)"--T.p. verso. Contents v. 1. A-D -- v. 2. E-K -- v. 3. L-R -- v. 4. S-Z. Also: "The material in this book is an abstract of, and index to, information reported by the National Society Daughters of the American Revolution and published in their Annual Reports to the Smithsonian Institute, printed as Senate Documents (1900-1974), published by the Society in a separate volume (1975-1977) and published annually in the DAR magazine (1978-1987)"--Verso page. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LocalHistoryDivRPL Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.monroe/4682.2.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In addition, one can check the free web site www.worldcat.org for locations of libraries that own a tile. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.