Ok, well not the real end of the road, but almost. We're less than 10 miles from the North Dakota border, so nearly at the end of Minnesota. It was -8 when we got here last night about 630. Not that much ice on the roads and not much snow either. The car issue - well the folks at the dealership said not to worry about it, for had it been a major problem it would have croaked long ago. It was -12 last night, this evening the last I looked, when we came in from supper it was -14, a number I've not seen since I was in Chenango / Otsego counties, New York for Christmas of '68, when it was -18 at night, -14 when we got out and double bundled up, walked down the river road on the Otsego side of the Unadilla River to South New Berlin, and the local grocery store, about 3 miles away. (Hey, young and foolish). Gathering historical data while I'm here, as I host a site for Wilkin county, MN (where my wife is from), and from other places as well as material presents itself. Trusting you all have a happy and blessed holiday season. ------------------------------------------------------via webmail---- Tim Stowell tstowell@chattanooga.net