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    1. Re: [NYMADISO] Indian Relics
    2. Joan Broneske
    3. Wow! Yeah...what he just said! I believe that we, who have a love of researching our family lines, understand more than anyone the importance and specialness of the continuity of our ancestors, us and our descendants. The "woven web" of our individual peoples. I also believe that this is being threatened in today's world. Just my two cents, but I would rather try to instill this in my descendants and then pass these precious family treasures on to them, and trust, hopefully, that they will share my feelings, protect them and pass them on down the line. BTW, I don't post a whole lot, mainly lurk, but I just felt compelled to respond to this. Have a good day! . /' // . // |\//7 /' " \ . . . | ( \ '._ | '._ ' '. ' / \'-'_---. ) ) . :.' | \ | . . . . ' . | | | \^ /_-': / / | | '\ .' / /| | \\ | \ \( ) // / \ | | // / L! ! // / Joan Broneske [_] L[_| unicorn@surewest.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <Breakness@aol.com> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Indian Relics > > In a message dated 4/25/2005 7:08:45 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > gmfree@juno.com writes: > > What is the definition of culturally sensitive? Is it a part of > political > correctness > > > I'm not trying to romp on anyone here but I do have a very firm opinion on > this issue. My mother's family are in part Lakota Sioux. I have yet to > prove it > but I believe my father's people had some Cherokee and possibly some > Delaware. Dad's people arrived in 1738 and my mother's about 100 years > earlier so > from just a circumstantial point there is almost certainly native > bloodlines > on both sides. > > That said I have a very dim view of AIM (American Indian Movement). I see > these people as purely political opportunists. Kenniwick Man here in > Washington > State is a perfect example. The 10,000 plus year old bones were proven not > to > be related to any tribe, and the last I read had NO American Indian > characteristics. Of course that didn't for a moment prevent AIM along with > lawyers > from demanding the bones be "returned" to a tribe - again, never mind it > was > the WRONG tribe, as the bones were Caucasian in morphology. This think > hung > up in the courts for years! > > The AIM people, and those of that political persuasion, never tire of > claiming "victim status" for the purpose of political gain. As part Indian > I'm > ashamed of them. The "White Man Stole Our Land" nonsense is at it's heart > dishonest as all the tribes competed for hunting grounds and living space. > Whichever > tribe was the stronger took what they could and held it for as long as > they > could. > > There really shouldn't be any surprise that the heart of the matter was a > culture class between an industrial society and a stone age culture. The > absolutely practicable outcome to that clash shouldn't be a surprise to > anyone > either. > > They love to tout the "Nobel Savage" ideal when it suites them. But many > of > us who study history know full well that there was never any such thing. > Different tribes conducted their affairs in different ways. More then a > few kept > slaves. Some, such as the coast tribes here in the Pacific Northwest, > kept > slaves and practiced human sacrifice. > > As for 'returning artifacts' to anyone? Forget about it. Such would in > my > opinion do nothing as the artifact would most likely end up in someone's > collection or sold to the highest bidder and you would be left with squat. > > You could donate to a museum but the ones I have been in have hundreds of > times more items then they could ever display. Most people simply have no > idea > what their storage rooms - warehouses really - look like. Now it's fine > with me that they have inventories of this size but the point is they > don't need > more stuff as it's a virtual certainty they already have 50 examples of > everything you have - and their's is of a much finer quality. > > Yes, you could seek the advice of an academic. Nothing wrong with that in > so > far as you look for the identity of the items but don't bother looking for > a > political answer from most of them. You can figure out that for yourself. > Over 90% of academia has a leftist agenda. That such is their personal > belief is > fine with me, that they teach it to the exclusion of all else is not > acceptable to me. > > These are your family artifacts. Do what you will. If they were mine, I'd > seek to identify and possibly research their value. But I while I may sell > them > I would not turn them over to a third party who would sell them for their > benefit. > > > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search the list archives: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for > the name of the list > > >

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