Joan, I forgot to mention in my last note--I am talking about Oneida, NY chas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Rebholz" <jurebholz@comcast.net> To: <NYMADISO@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 7:42 PM Subject: [NYMADISO] Fidell family > I'm researching some Fidell family members from Madison County. In > particular, I'd like to identify the parents of brothers Jesse (1887 - > 1967) and Fred (1891 - 1988) Fidell. Their mother's name was Frances and > she eventually married Edward Dibble. Does anybody know the father's name > or the mother's maiden name? > Many thanks > Joan R. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joan, This doesn't answer your questions, but just to throw this in---A Marion Fidell attended the old Elizabeth St. elementery school when I did. From first grade to sixth. This would be about 1926 - 1932. That's the extent of my nickle's worth. Chas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Rebholz" <jurebholz@comcast.net> To: <NYMADISO@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 7:42 PM Subject: [NYMADISO] Fidell family > I'm researching some Fidell family members from Madison County. In > particular, I'd like to identify the parents of brothers Jesse (1887 - > 1967) and Fred (1891 - 1988) Fidell. Their mother's name was Frances and > she eventually married Edward Dibble. Does anybody know the father's name > or the mother's maiden name? > Many thanks > Joan R. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joan, My friend Dick Barr saw the message on the Madison mail list and sent me a bit of FIDELL research he did for someone a while back so will forward his message that has an attachment. Let me know if the attachment does not forward and can send it separtely. Not sure it has anything to do with your people but in the same neighborhood, so might give you some ideas. Best Dick Hillenbrand On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Joan Rebholz <jurebholz@comcast.net> wrote: > Dick, > > Many thanks. I've turned fultonhistory, the census, ancestry records and > newspapers, and everything else inside out. Her name was Isabell Fyvie and > as you have in 1920, she was the wife of Jesse. > > I have an obit for a Fidell who died in 1894. leaving a wife and two young > children, none named. I can't seem to find any of the (Fidell) survivors in > 1900, but by 1910 I found Fred and Jesse in Lenox. The ages are good for > them to have been young children of someone who died in 1894. Then I found > an obit for Frances Dibble, with sons Fred and Jesse Fidell. I have a > strong feeling, but can't prove that she was the wife and they were the > children. I can't find any other Fidells who would fit the scenario, but > that doesn't mean that somebody didn't adopt them and change their name, in > which case I'll never find them. > > I appreciate your help. > Cheers, > Joan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rich Hill > To: nymadiso@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Fidell family > > > >From an obit in the Utica Observer Dispatch, Sat. July 3, 1971 > Mrs. Isabell FIDELL. 78 of 219 east Railroad Street, Oneida, a retired > domestic, died Friday [so July 2] in City of Oneida Hospital. born in > Canastotoa d/o James & Margaret [REMORA/RAMONE? FYVLIE? unreadable]. > First > Methodist Episcopal ch. > 3 sons: > Frederick of California > Roger of Indianapolis > Jess FIDELL Jr. of Oneida > 1 dau Mrs. Joseph [Marion] PERRETTA of Canastota. > (fultonhistory.com) > > > Then from 1920 census ED 125, Sheet 9A, > FIDELL Jessie head owns mortgage age 32 b. NY finisher silver ware > factory > Isabell age 28 > Frederick 10 > Rodger 7 > Wannettabell 5 > Marion 3 > Carlton 2mos. [is this Jesse Jr.?] > (ancestry.com) > > That should get you started. > > Dick Hillenbrand > Upstate New York Genealogy > www.UNYG.com/ > www.UNYG.com/blog/ > > Another genealogy research tool: > www.GenealogyDNA.com > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dick, Many thanks. I've turned fultonhistory, the census, ancestry records and newspapers, and everything else inside out. Her name was Isabell Fyvie and as you have in 1920, she was the wife of Jesse. I have an obit for a Fidell who died in 1894. leaving a wife and two young children, none named. I can't seem to find any of the (Fidell) survivors in 1900, but by 1910 I found Fred and Jesse in Lenox. The ages are good for them to have been young children of someone who died in 1894. Then I found an obit for Frances Dibble, with sons Fred and Jesse Fidell. I have a strong feeling, but can't prove that she was the wife and they were the children. I can't find any other Fidells who would fit the scenario, but that doesn't mean that somebody didn't adopt them and change their name, in which case I'll never find them. I appreciate your help. Cheers, Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: Rich Hill To: nymadiso@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Fidell family >From an obit in the Utica Observer Dispatch, Sat. July 3, 1971 Mrs. Isabell FIDELL. 78 of 219 east Railroad Street, Oneida, a retired domestic, died Friday [so July 2] in City of Oneida Hospital. born in Canastotoa d/o James & Margaret [REMORA/RAMONE? FYVLIE? unreadable]. First Methodist Episcopal ch. 3 sons: Frederick of California Roger of Indianapolis Jess FIDELL Jr. of Oneida 1 dau Mrs. Joseph [Marion] PERRETTA of Canastota. (fultonhistory.com) Then from 1920 census ED 125, Sheet 9A, FIDELL Jessie head owns mortgage age 32 b. NY finisher silver ware factory Isabell age 28 Frederick 10 Rodger 7 Wannettabell 5 Marion 3 Carlton 2mos. [is this Jesse Jr.?] (ancestry.com) That should get you started. Dick Hillenbrand Upstate New York Genealogy www.UNYG.com/ www.UNYG.com/blog/ Another genealogy research tool: www.GenealogyDNA.com

>From an obit in the Utica Observer Dispatch, Sat. July 3, 1971 Mrs. Isabell FIDELL. 78 of 219 east Railroad Street, Oneida, a retired domestic, died Friday [so July 2] in City of Oneida Hospital. born in Canastotoa d/o James & Margaret [REMORA/RAMONE? FYVLIE? unreadable]. First Methodist Episcopal ch. 3 sons: Frederick of California Roger of Indianapolis Jess FIDELL Jr. of Oneida 1 dau Mrs. Joseph [Marion] PERRETTA of Canastota. (fultonhistory.com) Then from 1920 census ED 125, Sheet 9A, FIDELL Jessie head owns mortgage age 32 b. NY finisher silver ware factory Isabell age 28 Frederick 10 Rodger 7 Wannettabell 5 Marion 3 Carlton 2mos. [is this Jesse Jr.?] (ancestry.com) That should get you started. Dick Hillenbrand Upstate New York Genealogy www.UNYG.com/ www.UNYG.com/blog/ Another genealogy research tool: www.GenealogyDNA.com On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Joan Rebholz <jurebholz@comcast.net> wrote: > I'm researching some Fidell family members from Madison County. In > particular, I'd like to identify the parents of brothers Jesse (1887 - 1967) > and Fred (1891 - 1988) Fidell. Their mother's name was Frances and she > eventually married Edward Dibble. Does anybody know the father's name or > the mother's maiden name? > Many thanks > Joan R. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm researching some Fidell family members from Madison County. In particular, I'd like to identify the parents of brothers Jesse (1887 - 1967) and Fred (1891 - 1988) Fidell. Their mother's name was Frances and she eventually married Edward Dibble. Does anybody know the father's name or the mother's maiden name? Many thanks Joan R.

Chas You're the first person I'm replying to after being without my computer since Memorial Day Weekend. Layton D. and Mary Lewis were in Peterboro from early 1904 through sometime in 1915. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "cepage1" <cepage1@verizon.net> To: <nymadiso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Lewis family > Donna, > do you know the time frame< or approximate, that the Lewises were there > in > Peterboro? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Burdick" <dburdick@stny.rr.com> > To: <nymadiso@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 9:22 AM > Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Lewis family > > >> Chas >> >> Interesting that you mentioned Layton Lewis and his wife Mary. They were >> the 4th Superintendent and Matron of the Madison Co. Home for Destitute >> Children at Peterboro. This is fresh in my mind because I've been >> working >> on the program that I'll be doing on the "Home" on July 20 at the >> Peterboro >> Museum. >> >> Donna B. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "cepage1" <cepage1@verizon.net> >> To: <nymadiso@rootsweb.com> >> Cc: "Jill Tobin" <tobinsquilts@yahoo.com>; "Glenice J. Roberts" >> <glenice27@frontier.com>; "Fay S. Lackey" <owls@hughes.net>; "Donna >> Robinson" <dmzr177@yahoo.com>; "Charles E. Page,3" <cedjpage16@yahoo.com> >> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:48 AM >> Subject: [NYMADISO] Lewis family >> >> >>>I wonder if anyone is researching this Lewis family? >>> My Grandmother, Alice Page Lewis married Morton Lewis, he b. abt 1851 >>> & >>> d. in 1920's. His father was George and Mother Cornelia? Morton was >>> Alice's 2nd husband. >>> We are trying to find a connection of Morton with other Lewises, such >>> as, Laverne B., b. abt 1878-his parents Layton b. 1848 and Mary Bridge >>> Lewis b. 1851 >>> Layton's parents- John H. Lewis & Sarah Washburn b.1830 in Mass. >>> All these peole lived in the Town of Madison area.. >>> Thanks Chas >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) >>> Database version: 6.14880 >>> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ >> >> >> >> >> >> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) >> Database version: 6.14880 >> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This has been so interesting. My only suggestion would be that a furniture conservation expert could be very helpful too. I had some work done on a desk and the conservator told me a lot about the desk just based on his observations of scratches (or lack of scratches) where the drawers slid in and out, chalk marks where the sections of the pigeon holes were numbered for installation, etc. Good luck! Debbie On Jun 14, 2010, at 8:57 AM, rporter@fingerlakeshousehistories.com wrote: > I would also find a knowledgeable antique dealer in Wisconsin to see > what a professional opinion might be, as to the style and where it was > most likely be made. > > If you have John Landon's death date, I would look for his will. If he > was a cabinet maker, his will may list his tools as part of his > estate's settlement. If he died while still in business, an inventory > just might point to a cabinet maker occupation. An inventory might > list the furniture as part of his household , Particularly if it was > considered as unique item worthy of attention or value for tax > purposes on the estate. > > He might have been listed in a directory or newspaper as a business. A > search on fultonhistory,com may yield some clues. > > Good luck with your search > > Rick Porter > Finger Lakes House Histories > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYMADISO- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I would also find a knowledgeable antique dealer in Wisconsin to see what a professional opinion might be, as to the style and where it was most likely be made. If you have John Landon's death date, I would look for his will. If he was a cabinet maker, his will may list his tools as part of his estate's settlement. If he died while still in business, an inventory just might point to a cabinet maker occupation. An inventory might list the furniture as part of his household , Particularly if it was considered as unique item worthy of attention or value for tax purposes on the estate. He might have been listed in a directory or newspaper as a business. A search on fultonhistory,com may yield some clues. Good luck with your search Rick Porter Finger Lakes House Histories

Mary Messer's email is backstreetmary@yahoo.com On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 12:18 PM, cepage1 <cepage1@verizon.net> wrote: > You might try Susanne Greenhagen. She probably would know. Also, Mary > Messere--but I don't have mary's present email address. > Sue's email is greenhsh@morrisville,edu > Chas > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ted Landon" <theodore@mhtc.net> > To: <nymadiso@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] NYMADISO furniture makers > > > >A mahogany Chippendale Queen Ann style lowboy has come down in our > > family that I believe came from John Landon's > > home on Landon Rd. in Eaton. My question to listers: Was my lowboy > > probably made in Eaton area, or would it be more likely to have come > > from the previous generation. John Landon came from Salisbury CN. Was > > Chippendale style furniture made in Madison County in the 1840's? By > > chance, does anyone know what John Landon's business was? Thanks, Ted > > Landon in Wisconsin! > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Margo Frink Vice President - Managing Editor M3P Media LLC Margo@m3pmedia.com 315-363-4254 315-481-8732 www.madisoncountycourier.com www.oneidacountycourier.com www.onondagacountycourier.com www.jeffersoncourier.com www.herkimercountycourier.com www.oswegocountycourier.com Your News, Your Voice

Yes, Tink, now that you mention it those are the two. I have their book and while it's not the only one to buy, it seems a good start. For me, books a photographs only go so far, so I'd suggest a cruse around the local auction houses too. Good place to see representations of a certain period, or a certain maker from a particular area. Antique stores are pretty good too, though "your mileage may vary" greatly as to expertise. Also, look out for sharks! I know a number of well known antique dealers ( and jewelers ) here in Seattle who when they see something of real value, will gain a persons trust, and then subtly run down the piece so they can buy it at 10% of it's wholesale value. Cheers Laurence In a message dated 6/13/2010 11:55:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tmiller@pirs.org writes: Great advice for all of us to know. Thanks. I think the Keno brothers - Leigh and Leslie, who are featured on Antiques Roadshow (PBS), are the authors of that book. They specialize in New England furnishings. Book is "Hidden Treasures", ISBN-13: 9780446526920. Should be at local library or you can get it through an inter-library loan. Tink

The method of appraising, which included identification of origin, quality and so on, are very similar from discipline to discipline. Having been an appraiser for over 30 years, here are a few ideas. There are a number of quality books on antique furniture that you might look into. the names escape me for the moment but two brothers, both antique furniture experts, have written at least one if not more books on this subject. One word of caution. Experts do disagree all the time so do proper research, compile evidence to support your assumption and see where the facts lead. For a multitude of reasons, even with hallmarks, the supposed origin of your piece may or may not be genuine. Laurence Lance Certified Gemologist Appraiser In a message dated 6/13/2010 11:18:04 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tmiller@pirs.org writes: I don't know the answer to your question, but I know that there are specific nuances to the style of a piece that will reveal to a competent appraiser whether it was made in Connecticut or New York. Sometimes they can even identify the exact maker by a unique characteristic like a certain curve, the size of a leg or foot, the type of wood, etc. It would be worth having a knowledgeable appraiser look at it. You might need to insure it if it turns out to be a very valuable piece. Would love to hear the end of the story someday. Tink At 08:20 AM 6/13/10, you wrote: >A mahogany Chippendale Queen Ann style lowboy has come down in our >family that I believe came from John Landon's >home on Landon Rd. in Eaton. My question to listers: Was my lowboy >probably made in Eaton area, or would it be more likely to have come >from the previous generation. John Landon came from Salisbury CN. Was >Chippendale style furniture made in Madison County in the 1840's? By >chance, does anyone know what John Landon's business was? Thanks, Ted >Landon in Wisconsin! > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You might try Susanne Greenhagen. She probably would know. Also, Mary Messere--but I don't have mary's present email address. Sue's email is greenhsh@morrisville,edu Chas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Landon" <theodore@mhtc.net> To: <nymadiso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] NYMADISO furniture makers >A mahogany Chippendale Queen Ann style lowboy has come down in our > family that I believe came from John Landon's > home on Landon Rd. in Eaton. My question to listers: Was my lowboy > probably made in Eaton area, or would it be more likely to have come > from the previous generation. John Landon came from Salisbury CN. Was > Chippendale style furniture made in Madison County in the 1840's? By > chance, does anyone know what John Landon's business was? Thanks, Ted > Landon in Wisconsin! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Great advice for all of us to know. Thanks. I think the Keno brothers - Leigh and Leslie, who are featured on Antiques Roadshow (PBS), are the authors of that book. They specialize in New England furnishings. Book is "Hidden Treasures", ISBN-13: 9780446526920. Should be at local library or you can get it through an inter-library loan. Tink At 11:28 AM 6/13/10, you wrote: The method of appraising, which included identification of origin, quality and so on, are very similar from discipline to discipline. Having been an appraiser for over 30 years, here are a few ideas. There are a number of quality books on antique furniture that you might look into. the names escape me for the moment but two brothers, both antique furniture experts, have written at least one if not more books on this subject. One word of caution. Experts do disagree all the time so do proper research, compile evidence to support your assumption and see where the facts lead. For a multitude of reasons, even with hallmarks, the supposed origin of your piece may or may not be genuine. Laurence Lance Certified Gemologist Appraiser In a message dated 6/13/2010 11:18:04 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tmiller@pirs.org writes: I don't know the answer to your question, but I know that there are specific nuances to the style of a piece that will reveal to a competent appraiser whether it was made in Connecticut or New York. Sometimes they can even identify the exact maker by a unique characteristic like a certain curve, the size of a leg or foot, the type of wood, etc. It would be worth having a knowledgeable appraiser look at it. You might need to insure it if it turns out to be a very valuable piece. Would love to hear the end of the story someday. Tink At 08:20 AM 6/13/10, you wrote: >A mahogany Chippendale Queen Ann style lowboy has come down in our >family that I believe came from John Landon's >home on Landon Rd. in Eaton. My question to listers: Was my lowboy >probably made in Eaton area, or would it be more likely to have come >from the previous generation. John Landon came from Salisbury CN. Was >Chippendale style furniture made in Madison County in the 1840's? By >chance, does anyone know what John Landon's business was? Thanks, Ted >Landon in Wisconsin! > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Seems most likely it is a New England lowboy to me. 1860 John LANDON is listed as a farm laborer with real estate value of $500 and personal property valued at $175. If a person were a master cabinet make which is what one would be to create such a piece of furniture, then he would have a lot more value in tools and inventory, as well as would be known as a furniture maker. If it were me i would have an antique furniture expert come and look at it, pay the fee to have it inspected properly and get someone with a great amount of knowledge in 18th century New England cabinet makers. I have seen where the makers signed these things in the most unusual locations and in most unusual ways. Check all of the drawer sides, underneath, inside the secret compartment, etc. With a professional examination and evaluation you can then get valid insurance coverage. My what a treasure to have in the family! Some of these pieces depending on condition and originality with no repairs may run into astronomical values. There is quite a bit on Ancestry about this man and his family. He is always referred to as a farmer. Dick Hillenbrand Upstate New York Genealogy www.UNYG.com/ On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:18 AM, cepage1 <cepage1@verizon.net> wrote: > You might try Susanne Greenhagen. She probably would know. Also, Mary > Messere--but I don't have mary's present email address. > Sue's email is greenhsh@morrisville,edu > Chas > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ted Landon" <theodore@mhtc.net> > To: <nymadiso@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] NYMADISO furniture makers > > > >A mahogany Chippendale Queen Ann style lowboy has come down in our > > family that I believe came from John Landon's > > home on Landon Rd. in Eaton. My question to listers: Was my lowboy > > probably made in Eaton area, or would it be more likely to have come > > from the previous generation. John Landon came from Salisbury CN. Was > > Chippendale style furniture made in Madison County in the 1840's? By > > chance, does anyone know what John Landon's business was? Thanks, Ted > > Landon in Wisconsin! > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I don't know the answer to your question, but I know that there are specific nuances to the style of a piece that will reveal to a competent appraiser whether it was made in Connecticut or New York. Sometimes they can even identify the exact maker by a unique characteristic like a certain curve, the size of a leg or foot, the type of wood, etc. It would be worth having a knowledgeable appraiser look at it. You might need to insure it if it turns out to be a very valuable piece. Would love to hear the end of the story someday. Tink At 08:20 AM 6/13/10, you wrote: >A mahogany Chippendale Queen Ann style lowboy has come down in our >family that I believe came from John Landon's >home on Landon Rd. in Eaton. My question to listers: Was my lowboy >probably made in Eaton area, or would it be more likely to have come >from the previous generation. John Landon came from Salisbury CN. Was >Chippendale style furniture made in Madison County in the 1840's? By >chance, does anyone know what John Landon's business was? Thanks, Ted >Landon in Wisconsin! > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A mahogany Chippendale Queen Ann style lowboy has come down in our family that I believe came from John Landon's home on Landon Rd. in Eaton. My question to listers: Was my lowboy probably made in Eaton area, or would it be more likely to have come from the previous generation. John Landon came from Salisbury CN. Was Chippendale style furniture made in Madison County in the 1840's? By chance, does anyone know what John Landon's business was? Thanks, Ted Landon in Wisconsin!

I received this inquiry from a Shelia Hill Lomax. I wasn't able to help her. Maybe someone on the list can. If so, you can answer her directly or to me and I will forward it to her. Chas ----- Original Message ----- From: <kingdomorgans@earthlink.net> To: <cepage1@verizon.net> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 3:21 AM Subject: Madison co., Ny > Mr Page, first i am sorry to hear of your wife passin. my husband will be > married 40 yrs. oct.30. > I am writtin you in regards of livin in madison co, ny, > My name is Shelia w. (hill) lomax. my great poppop Orsemus D. Hill was > born in fenner, ny, 1838 to william and almina(rice) hill. they had other > children too. Orsemus enlisted in the civil war, and made it through and > bought property in sussex co. de. in 1867. > I was wonderin if your parents or grandparents may have know the hills i > speak of. > Also am trin to find information on Myron h.(or just myron gibbs, born in > fenner round 1838 too, and went in teh civil war also. records show there > are 2 myron gibbs died at andersonville, ga. do you knw if there were one > or 2 myron gibbs. thinkin him and my greatpoppop may have been friends, > and went into the civil war together. there is also a myron howard, that > was in the 114th com.K (same as g.poppop) > guess you think i am crazy for writtin and askin this question, but i am a > nut on my ancestors, and findin about them. > > thank you for takin the time to read this letter, would just like to hear > from you anyway. > > take care god bless > shelia w hill lomax > townsend, de. > kingdomorgans@earthlink.net

Daniela, No doubt Donna Burdick, Smithfield Historian, will respond to you. She would know if any one does. Knew a couple of Tuckers but have no family info on them. Chas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniela Moneta" <dmoneta@cox.net> To: <NYMADISO@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:33 PM Subject: [NYMADISO] Tuckers in Smithfield > Hi Madison County researchers, > > > > I am new to this list and am researching my Tucker family from Smithfield, > Madison County. > > > > My ancestor, Moses Tucker, was in Smithfield around 1805 as his son, > Chauncey Tucker, was born there according to information on his son's > death > record and obituary. The death records and his obituary for Chauncey (he > died in LaSalle, New York and I have requested a copy of his death record, > if it exists) says that he was born in Smithport, Madison County, New York > on 10 January 1805. I know that there is no place called Smithport in > Madison County and since it is not close to the sea, there is no port. > Since > Chauncey was no longer around to correct what his family said about him > after he died, I think that the family must have misremembered his birth > place and should have said Smithfield and not Smithport. As I study more > about Smithfield, I see that it was not organized until 1807. I imagine > that > it may have existed as a place before it was "officially" organized in > 1807. > Does anyone know if this is true? > > > > Moses Tucker migrated to Chautauqua County by 1809 where he purchased land > from the Holland Land Company. Actually, he steadily purchased land in > Chautauqua from 1809 up until 1835 when he died sometime before the 1840 > census was taken as his wife, Elizabeth, appears as head-of-household. I > have him pretty well pinned down in Chautauqua. > > > > Where Moses was born and who his parents were is still a mystery to me. A > descendant of his daughter (my ancestor Nancy) says that Moses married > Elizabeth Cable and they had the following children, Nancy Tucker b. 1801, > Chauncey Tucker b. 1805, Harriet Tucker no birth info, James Tucker b. > 1814 > in Chautauqua County, NY, and Moses Tucker Jr. born in 1815 in Chautauqua. > Two of Moses' sons married into the Risley family and I know the Risleys > were in Madison County in the early days. Chauncey married Florella C. > Risley, the daughter of Elijah Risley, Jr and Abigail (Nabby) Bringham, in > about 1833 in Chautauqua and James Tucker married Emeline Risley in 1840 > in > Chautauqua. I don't know who Emeline's parents were. > > > > I have been working on this Tucker Family research for a number of years > but > haven't gotten very far. I have the summer off from my job so I have > devoted > full time to this research and started three weeks ago when I went to Salt > Lake City to work in the Family History Library and since then for the > past > three weeks I have worked full time on it from home. I live in Phoenix, > Arizona and am not able to travel to New York to do research. I am about > to > order several rolls of microfilm but wanted to introduce myself to the > list. > Is there anyone researching the Moses Tucker family in Madison County? I > know there was a James Tucker in Smithfield around the time Moses was > there > but I have not been able to tie them together. > > > > Here is what I have found so far: a Moses Tucker appeared on the 1790 > census > in Otsego, Montgomery County, NY. He was a free white male 16 years and > upward, and head of the household. According to the 1820 and 1830 censuses > in Chautauqua County (assuming they are correct), Moses was born between > 1770 and 1780. So, this could be my Moses at a very young age. In 1790 > Montgomery county encompassed a huge area including the Madison County > area. > > > > Moses Tucker was listed on the Town of Cazenovia Road Book compiled by > Daniel H. Weiskotten in 2000. In 1805 and 1807 he was listed as the path > master for the road. A Moses Tucker was listed as a Smithfield juror in > 1807according to William H. Tuttle's Names and Sketches of the Pioneer > Settlers of Madison County, New York. > > > > As I mentioned above, I will be ordering land, court, and probate records > for Madison County for the early years to see if Moses is mentioned. I > will > also order the early records of Chenango County from which Madison was > taken. > > > > I am also interested in Moses' wife's family, the Cable family. I have not > found a trace of them in anything I have read about Madison County. > > > > Any help you can give me with this research would be very much > appreciated. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Daniela Moneta > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Madison County researchers, I am new to this list and am researching my Tucker family from Smithfield, Madison County. My ancestor, Moses Tucker, was in Smithfield around 1805 as his son, Chauncey Tucker, was born there according to information on his son's death record and obituary. The death records and his obituary for Chauncey (he died in LaSalle, New York and I have requested a copy of his death record, if it exists) says that he was born in Smithport, Madison County, New York on 10 January 1805. I know that there is no place called Smithport in Madison County and since it is not close to the sea, there is no port. Since Chauncey was no longer around to correct what his family said about him after he died, I think that the family must have misremembered his birth place and should have said Smithfield and not Smithport. As I study more about Smithfield, I see that it was not organized until 1807. I imagine that it may have existed as a place before it was "officially" organized in 1807. Does anyone know if this is true? Moses Tucker migrated to Chautauqua County by 1809 where he purchased land from the Holland Land Company. Actually, he steadily purchased land in Chautauqua from 1809 up until 1835 when he died sometime before the 1840 census was taken as his wife, Elizabeth, appears as head-of-household. I have him pretty well pinned down in Chautauqua. Where Moses was born and who his parents were is still a mystery to me. A descendant of his daughter (my ancestor Nancy) says that Moses married Elizabeth Cable and they had the following children, Nancy Tucker b. 1801, Chauncey Tucker b. 1805, Harriet Tucker no birth info, James Tucker b. 1814 in Chautauqua County, NY, and Moses Tucker Jr. born in 1815 in Chautauqua. Two of Moses' sons married into the Risley family and I know the Risleys were in Madison County in the early days. Chauncey married Florella C. Risley, the daughter of Elijah Risley, Jr and Abigail (Nabby) Bringham, in about 1833 in Chautauqua and James Tucker married Emeline Risley in 1840 in Chautauqua. I don't know who Emeline's parents were. I have been working on this Tucker Family research for a number of years but haven't gotten very far. I have the summer off from my job so I have devoted full time to this research and started three weeks ago when I went to Salt Lake City to work in the Family History Library and since then for the past three weeks I have worked full time on it from home. I live in Phoenix, Arizona and am not able to travel to New York to do research. I am about to order several rolls of microfilm but wanted to introduce myself to the list. Is there anyone researching the Moses Tucker family in Madison County? I know there was a James Tucker in Smithfield around the time Moses was there but I have not been able to tie them together. Here is what I have found so far: a Moses Tucker appeared on the 1790 census in Otsego, Montgomery County, NY. He was a free white male 16 years and upward, and head of the household. According to the 1820 and 1830 censuses in Chautauqua County (assuming they are correct), Moses was born between 1770 and 1780. So, this could be my Moses at a very young age. In 1790 Montgomery county encompassed a huge area including the Madison County area. Moses Tucker was listed on the Town of Cazenovia Road Book compiled by Daniel H. Weiskotten in 2000. In 1805 and 1807 he was listed as the path master for the road. A Moses Tucker was listed as a Smithfield juror in 1807according to William H. Tuttle's Names and Sketches of the Pioneer Settlers of Madison County, New York. As I mentioned above, I will be ordering land, court, and probate records for Madison County for the early years to see if Moses is mentioned. I will also order the early records of Chenango County from which Madison was taken. I am also interested in Moses' wife's family, the Cable family. I have not found a trace of them in anything I have read about Madison County. Any help you can give me with this research would be very much appreciated. Sincerely, Daniela Moneta