Pat, I would donate them to the Madison County Historical Society or a local library for safe keeping. Sounds like a wonderful find. Hopefully they will go to someone who can use them to fill in their tree as it were. Is there a Church name or Minister/Reverend or Pastor name in them? Could be identified if there is a name some where on them. Good luck Rick Porter Finger Lakes House Histories -----Original Message----- >From: Patricia Jaquay <hjaquay@twcny.rr.com> >Sent: Jul 8, 2010 2:32 PM >To: NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NYMADISO] Bibles > >Is there any one in the Eaton, Morrisville, Brookfield areas that know of families from the early 1900 era with the surnames: > >MORSE - MOSS- WOODARD - PIERSON - MOORS - MATHER > >I have some small Bibles, Psalm Book, Prayer book, New Testaments. > >These appear to have belonged to and passed down to members of the same family. Some were awarded to student of Bible classes,. > >Each book is over 100 years old. Some names are hard to decipher. I would love to give them to some one that can use the hand written info or to some one who collects old Bibles. > >I cannot bring myself to destroy them - have done genealogy far too long. > >If any one is interested please contact me. > >Pat Jaquay >hjaquay@twcny.rr.com > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry Barb - the name appears to be S. J. Pierson who was apparently the Saboth School teacher as this was presented to 12 year old George Morse. Have no idea whaty church either. Pat

Hi Pat, Thanks for offering the bibles! They will be a great find for the families of those names. Any chance the Pierson is Piersall? I know it is a shot in the dark, but I thought I would ask in case that is one of the ones that is hard to decipher. I would be very interested in that one if there is a chance it is Piersall. Thanks, Pat, have a great day! Barb (formerly on Oneida, now in Liberty, Sullivan County, NY) On Jul 8, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Patricia Jaquay wrote: > Is there any one in the Eaton, Morrisville, Brookfield areas that > know of families from the early 1900 era with the surnames: > > MORSE - MOSS- WOODARD - PIERSON - MOORS - MATHER > > I have some small Bibles, Psalm Book, Prayer book, New Testaments. > > These appear to have belonged to and passed down to members of the > same family. Some were awarded to student of Bible classes,. > > Each book is over 100 years old. Some names are hard to decipher. > I would love to give them to some one that can use the hand written > info or to some one who collects old Bibles. > > I cannot bring myself to destroy them - have done genealogy far too > long. > > If any one is interested please contact me. > > Pat Jaquay > hjaquay@twcny.rr.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Is there any one in the Eaton, Morrisville, Brookfield areas that know of families from the early 1900 era with the surnames: MORSE - MOSS- WOODARD - PIERSON - MOORS - MATHER I have some small Bibles, Psalm Book, Prayer book, New Testaments. These appear to have belonged to and passed down to members of the same family. Some were awarded to student of Bible classes,. Each book is over 100 years old. Some names are hard to decipher. I would love to give them to some one that can use the hand written info or to some one who collects old Bibles. I cannot bring myself to destroy them - have done genealogy far too long. If any one is interested please contact me. Pat Jaquay hjaquay@twcny.rr.com

Sandy Please include me in for the picture and article. What was the date it was taken? Pat

Sandy, I would also appreciate that picture. I grew up near there and still have family in that area. Sue in Ohio -----Original Message----- From: nymadiso-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nymadiso-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sandy Wilsey Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 3:40 PM To: nymadiso@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Name changes If you google "Cottons, NY" you will see a map that locates Cottons near the intersection of Bruce Rd. and C(K)lock Rd. west of Clockville. Cottons was originally in the Town of Lenox, Madison Co. until 1896 when part of Lenox became the Town of Lincoln. Cottons was once a thriving community with a school, church, post office, railroad station, and cemetery. The old Cotton's school house is still standing near the intersection of Harp Rd. and Cotton's Rd. I have a recent photo of the school and an article about it, if anyone would like that info forwarded. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Jaquay" <hjaquay@twcny.rr.com> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 11:41 AM Subject: [NYMADISO] Name changes > Was the area known as COTTONS, NY - a little north of Canastota - > combined into Lenox? At one time it had a post office as I have post > cards mailed from there. Also had relatives that lived there. This would > be back in the late 1800's/early 1900's I believe > > There is the Cottons Road that crosses Nelson Rd if I remember correctly. > > Pat J. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sandy, Would you send me the picture and info. Thanks Chas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Wilsey" <swilsey@twcny.rr.com> To: <nymadiso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Name changes > If you google "Cottons, NY" you will see a map that locates Cottons near > the intersection of Bruce Rd. and C(K)lock Rd. west of Clockville. > Cottons > was originally in the Town of Lenox, Madison Co. until 1896 when part of > Lenox became the Town of Lincoln. Cottons was once a thriving community > with > a school, church, post office, railroad station, and cemetery. The old > Cotton's school house is still standing near the intersection of Harp Rd. > and Cotton's Rd. > I have a recent photo of the school and an article about it, if anyone > would > like that info forwarded. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia Jaquay" <hjaquay@twcny.rr.com> > To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 11:41 AM > Subject: [NYMADISO] Name changes > > >> Was the area known as COTTONS, NY - a little north of Canastota - >> combined into Lenox? At one time it had a post office as I have post >> cards mailed from there. Also had relatives that lived there. This >> would >> be back in the late 1800's/early 1900's I believe >> >> There is the Cottons Road that crosses Nelson Rd if I remember correctly. >> >> Pat J. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you google "Cottons, NY" you will see a map that locates Cottons near the intersection of Bruce Rd. and C(K)lock Rd. west of Clockville. Cottons was originally in the Town of Lenox, Madison Co. until 1896 when part of Lenox became the Town of Lincoln. Cottons was once a thriving community with a school, church, post office, railroad station, and cemetery. The old Cotton's school house is still standing near the intersection of Harp Rd. and Cotton's Rd. I have a recent photo of the school and an article about it, if anyone would like that info forwarded. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Jaquay" <hjaquay@twcny.rr.com> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 11:41 AM Subject: [NYMADISO] Name changes > Was the area known as COTTONS, NY - a little north of Canastota - > combined into Lenox? At one time it had a post office as I have post > cards mailed from there. Also had relatives that lived there. This would > be back in the late 1800's/early 1900's I believe > > There is the Cottons Road that crosses Nelson Rd if I remember correctly. > > Pat J. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Cottons was west of Canastota on Cottons Road. There is nothing there now to indicate it was a hamlet. The big manor house that seemed to be about the center of the hamlet is still there. Yes it was in Lenox, and I think, now, without checking, it is in Lincoln. Chas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Jaquay" <hjaquay@twcny.rr.com> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 11:41 AM Subject: [NYMADISO] Name changes > Was the area known as COTTONS, NY - a little north of Canastota - > combined into Lenox? At one time it had a post office as I have post > cards mailed from there. Also had relatives that lived there. This would > be back in the late 1800's/early 1900's I believe > > There is the Cottons Road that crosses Nelson Rd if I remember correctly. > > Pat J. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Was the area known as COTTONS, NY - a little north of Canastota - combined into Lenox? At one time it had a post office as I have post cards mailed from there. Also had relatives that lived there. This would be back in the late 1800's/early 1900's I believe There is the Cottons Road that crosses Nelson Rd if I remember correctly. Pat J.

Daniela I know I couldn't find anything for you on Moses Tucker, but I do have something on Nathan Champney. First of all, he probably lived in that part of Smithfield which became the Town of Stockbridge in 1836 (the town was also formed from the towns of Vernon and Augusta in Oneida Co. and a portion of Lenox in Madison Co.). There is a Nathan Champney buried at Stockbridge Cemetery. The online listing (at Anita Ingalls' Madison County, NY website http://home.comcast.net/~ingallsam/ ) says that his dates are 1787-1832 and that he is buried in Section C, Lot 57m. Problem with this is that the birth year of 1787 is AFTER the Revo. War ended. I think maybe this Nathan who is buried at Stockbridge is the SON of the Revolutionary soldier. I went to www.findagrave.com and found a picture of the stone in the Stockbridge Cem. It also said that this Nathan was the husband of Desire Vaughn and that he was the son of Nathan and Polly Meacham Champney of Augusta, NY. Since Augusta is in Oneida County, you might want to go to the Oneida County GenWeb http://oneida.nygenweb.net/ and search the entire site for the Champney name. The only other Champneys I found buried in Madison County (but this may not be complete) are buried at Clockville Cemetery in the Town of Lincoln, north of Smithfield: Ellsworth Champney, d. Mar. 27, 1929, ae. 67 Rhoda Champney, his wife, d. Oct. 14, 1920, ae. 65 William Tuttle is his "Pioneers of Madison County", p. 49, had these entries for the name: CHAMPNEY, NATHAN. Died Oct. 6, 1827. Buried at Stockbridge. Veteran of Revolution. Born in 1752. Served in Mass. Line. Pensioned $96 per year in 1818. Lived in Eaton. Son Nathan. Tuttle says that Nathan Champney who is buried at Stockbridge Cem. was born 1752, died 1827. This doesn't match the existing stone that's there??? Based on what follows, I think there might have been at least 3 generations of men named Nathan Champney. Also on page 49 of Tuttle: CHAMPNEY, NATHAN. (1827-June 3, 1891). Wife Marie, daughter of Reuben Parkill (1829-March 1, 1898). Children Frank (1857), Elmer and Ellsworth (twins) (1862). Lived in Canastota. Worked in the rake factory. Had a contract for making the wheels. Grandson of Nathan (1752-1827). [Marie may actually be Maria] Also found a notice in a Hamilton, NY paper that an Elmer Champney died at "Klockville" NY on June 6, 1886, aged 83. In the 1855 NYS Census (index only), I found a Nathan "Champaney", age 25, working as a laborer/farmer. He had lived in Smithfield for 1 yr. and was born in Madison Co. You'd have to look at the actual census to see what family he was living with. Probably some of the above is useless/confusing but decided to "throw" it all in. I can give you the complete citation for Tuttle and for the Hamilton newspaper collection if you are interested. Donna Burdick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniela Moneta" <dmoneta@cox.net> To: <NYMADISO@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 10:21 AM Subject: [NYMADISO] Champney > Hello, > > > > I posted information a few weeks ago about my Tucker family from > Smithfield. > Moses Tucker was known to have lived in Smithfield and his son Chauncey > Tucker was born there in 1805 (just before it became an organized town). > Chauncey's sister, Nancy Tucker, is my 4th Great-grandmother. Just the > other > day, I found information that Nancy claimed to have Champney ancestors. > Low-and-behold, I found a Nathan Champney living in Smithfield. He filed > his > Rev. War bounty and pension papers in 1820. These papers are digitized and > online at Ancestry.com. He was born in 1754 and his wife Polly was born in > 1766. There is information on the Internet about this Champney family. I > would like to know the names of Nathan and Polly's children. I am > wondering > if Moses Tucker married one of their girls. Nathan may also have been in > the > War of 1812 in the 23 infantry (one brief record on Ancestry.com). There > was > good information about an Ebenezer Champney who was also in the 23 U.S. > Infantry. The records say that he was born in Concord, Mass and was 40 or > 45 > when he enlisted. He was 5'8" with dark eyes and sandy hair. He enlisted > on > 21 May 1814 at Canandaigua, and R.R. [can someone tell me what that means] > at Cazenovia, NY under Capt. J. Ingersoll's Co. Discharged at Sackets > Harbor, NY on 1 July 1815 when his term expired. There was a note to "See > Pension Case." I have not found that yet. > > > > Any one know anything about the Champney family? > > > > Thank you for your assistance, > > > > Daniela Moneta > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I posted information a few weeks ago about my Tucker family from Smithfield. Moses Tucker was known to have lived in Smithfield and his son Chauncey Tucker was born there in 1805 (just before it became an organized town). Chauncey's sister, Nancy Tucker, is my 4th Great-grandmother. Just the other day, I found information that Nancy claimed to have Champney ancestors. Low-and-behold, I found a Nathan Champney living in Smithfield. He filed his Rev. War bounty and pension papers in 1820. These papers are digitized and online at Ancestry.com. He was born in 1754 and his wife Polly was born in 1766. There is information on the Internet about this Champney family. I would like to know the names of Nathan and Polly's children. I am wondering if Moses Tucker married one of their girls. Nathan may also have been in the War of 1812 in the 23 infantry (one brief record on Ancestry.com). There was good information about an Ebenezer Champney who was also in the 23 U.S. Infantry. The records say that he was born in Concord, Mass and was 40 or 45 when he enlisted. He was 5'8" with dark eyes and sandy hair. He enlisted on 21 May 1814 at Canandaigua, and R.R. [can someone tell me what that means] at Cazenovia, NY under Capt. J. Ingersoll's Co. Discharged at Sackets Harbor, NY on 1 July 1815 when his term expired. There was a note to "See Pension Case." I have not found that yet. Any one know anything about the Champney family? Thank you for your assistance, Daniela Moneta

10 April 2007 Michael Pflieger or gir --- not sure just where he lived.

Voting works best for me if I click on the "vote for this idea" and then when it comes up a second time, click on "vote for this idea" a second time, and the 10 will change to 9. Sometimes when I clicked on "sign in" first the 10 didn't change to 9. Chas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Burdick" <dburdick@stny.rr.com> To: <nymadiso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 10:48 AM Subject: [NYMADISO] NAHOF Voting Extended Through July > Hello all > > I believe you were previously notified that the National Abolition Hall of > Fame in Peterboro was eligible for a grant of $250,000 from Pepsi. The > contest has been extended through the month of July!!!! > > Again, we need as many people as possible to vote EACH day in July. Can > you do this and get others to vote as well? If you've forgotten how, here > are the directions: > > 1. Go to www.refresheverything.com/nahofm > > 2. On your first visit, you'll need to click on Join Refresh Everything > in the blue section at the bottom left of the screen. Then you'll supply > the information required, including your e-mail, a password, etc. You can > vote on this first day also--see below. > > 3. EACH day you'll have to Sign In (also in the blue section at the > bottom), give your e-mail, password, etc., and then click on VOTE FOR THIS > IDEA. You'll know your vote registered when the number 10 at the bottom > center of the screen turns to 9. > > Thank you SO MUCH and remember to vote EACH day! > > Donna Burdick > Smithfield Town Historian > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all I believe you were previously notified that the National Abolition Hall of Fame in Peterboro was eligible for a grant of $250,000 from Pepsi. The contest has been extended through the month of July!!!! Again, we need as many people as possible to vote EACH day in July. Can you do this and get others to vote as well? If you've forgotten how, here are the directions: 1. Go to www.refresheverything.com/nahofm 2. On your first visit, you'll need to click on Join Refresh Everything in the blue section at the bottom left of the screen. Then you'll supply the information required, including your e-mail, a password, etc. You can vote on this first day also--see below. 3. EACH day you'll have to Sign In (also in the blue section at the bottom), give your e-mail, password, etc., and then click on VOTE FOR THIS IDEA. You'll know your vote registered when the number 10 at the bottom center of the screen turns to 9. Thank you SO MUCH and remember to vote EACH day! Donna Burdick Smithfield Town Historian

Hi, I am looking for any information about Thadius C Jaquay you have. He was born 1819 in Madison county NY, might have been baptized on Petersboro Baptist church,. or possibility Stockbridge. Not sure just going on what information I have. I want to see who his parents were and if he had any siblings. thank you Margaret N Harvey --------------------------------------------------------------- This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee(s) and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that any disclosure copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please destroy all copies of the message, whether in electronic or hard copy format, as well as attachments, and immediately contact the sender by replying to this e-mail or by phoning. Thank you. Visit us on the Web at http://www.hesc.org

Tink, Thanks for the very thoughtful suggestions. The story is a little more convoluted. The obit for Frances Dibble (1867 - 1948) mentioned another son with the surname Brewer. So, unless she adopted Fred and Jesse Fidell, she was apparently married (at least) three times, and probably divorced from Brewer. I found a marriage record for the Brewer son, and this had a fourth surname for Frances, which I assumed to be her maiden name. She and Dibble are in the 1930 census, having been married since ~1921. I have done first name searches, surname searches, and in a few cases pulled the names of everybody in the towns, everything I can think of, and otherwise Frances succeeded in being very elusive, but I'm not even sure how much piecing together her subsequent history would help to confirm that she and Chris Fidell were the natural parents of Jesse and Fred. I cannot find a phone number for the cemetery where Frances was buried, but I see that the funeral home that buried Frances and Jesse Fidell is still in business, so I'll call them, although I've not had much luck with funeral homes in the past. She's in Oakwood Cemetery where Fidell and Dibble are also buried. Maybe I'll luck out and find out that she's buried with Fidell. Based on Dick H.'s suggestion, I think I'll also look into some surrogate court records. I do believe that there's a strong case here, as you pointed out, but it will be a good learning experience delving into some of these new (to me) sources. Many thanks again, Cheers, Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: Tink Miller To: nymadiso@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 4:47 AM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Fidell family Hi Joan, It looks like you are building a strong case for presumption of this Frances and her boys in the obit to be the correct family. Sometimes the absence of any other records, as documented by your research records ruling them out, is sufficient to establish the highest probability that these are the correct family members. I know it isn't as satisfying as absolute proof. I can see you've been very thorough in your search, however a couple thoughts crossed my mind that you didn't mention trying. If the funeral home still exists that handled Frances' burial, contact them and see if they have any records that they would copy for you. You may find some new clues to renew your search. Or perhaps the cemetery has some records. Was there a marriage license issued when she married Edward Dibble, or a church record made? It might list her maiden name. Regarding the 1900 census, if you are relying on Ancestry's transcriptions, the surname may have been transcribed incorrectly. I find errors like that on Ancestry constantly. I always submit corrections for them. Since the boys are in Madison Co. in 1910, and if you haven't already done so, you might just read every page of the 1900 census for Madison County and see if you can find the family. Is it Dibble in 1900? When did Frances and Edward marry? You don't mention Frances' date ranges for birth and death. Might she ever have had a drivers license? Did she have a will or any estate that would have been probated? Have you explored who the people were that the boys were boarding with in 1910? I didn't look up Jesse but I saw that Fred, age 19, was boarding in the village of Canastota in town of Lenox, with an older widowed woman and her middle-aged daughter, who was single. Fred was a packer at a furniture factory. Perhaps these woman are actually extended family members. I hope one of these ideas will give you a direction for further research, although I realize that you may have done them already. Good luck. Tink

Joan, The Madison county marriage certificates or at least the indexes are available through LDS from 1908 to 1935. http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=422944&disp=Marriage++records%2C++1908-1920%3B++in%20%20&columns=*,0,0 Dick Hillenbrand On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Joan Rebholz <jurebholz@comcast.net>wrote: > Tink, > > Thanks for the very thoughtful suggestions. The story is a little more > convoluted. > > The obit for Frances Dibble (1867 - 1948) mentioned another son with the > surname Brewer. So, unless she adopted Fred and Jesse Fidell, she was > apparently married (at least) three times, and probably divorced from > Brewer. I found a marriage record for the Brewer son, and this had a fourth > surname for Frances, which I assumed to be her maiden name. She and Dibble > are in the 1930 census, having been married since ~1921. I have done first > name searches, surname searches, and in a few cases pulled the names of > everybody in the towns, everything I can think of, and otherwise Frances > succeeded in being very elusive, but I'm not even sure how much piecing > together her subsequent history would help to confirm that she and Chris > Fidell were the natural parents of Jesse and Fred. > > I cannot find a phone number for the cemetery where Frances was buried, but > I see that the funeral home that buried Frances and Jesse Fidell is still in > business, so I'll call them, although I've not had much luck with funeral > homes in the past. She's in Oakwood Cemetery where Fidell and Dibble are > also buried. Maybe I'll luck out and find out that she's buried with > Fidell. Based on Dick H.'s suggestion, I think I'll also look into some > surrogate court records. > > I do believe that there's a strong case here, as you pointed out, but it > will be a good learning experience delving into some of these new (to me) > sources. > > Many thanks again, > Cheers, > Joan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tink Miller > To: nymadiso@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 4:47 AM > Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Fidell family > > > > Hi Joan, > It looks like you are building a strong case for presumption of this > Frances and her boys in the obit to be the correct family. Sometimes > the absence of any other records, as documented by your research > records ruling them out, is sufficient to establish the highest > probability that these are the correct family members. I know it > isn't as satisfying as absolute proof. > > I can see you've been very thorough in your search, however a couple > thoughts crossed my mind that you didn't mention trying. If the > funeral home still exists that handled Frances' burial, contact them > and see if they have any records that they would copy for you. You > may find some new clues to renew your search. Or perhaps the > cemetery has some records. Was there a marriage license issued when > she married Edward Dibble, or a church record made? It might list > her maiden name. > > Regarding the 1900 census, if you are relying on Ancestry's > transcriptions, the surname may have been transcribed incorrectly. I > find errors like that on Ancestry constantly. I always submit > corrections for them. Since the boys are in Madison Co. in 1910, and > if you haven't already done so, you might just read every page of the > 1900 census for Madison County and see if you can find the > family. Is it Dibble in 1900? When did Frances and Edward > marry? You don't mention Frances' date ranges for birth and > death. Might she ever have had a drivers license? Did she have a > will or any estate that would have been probated? > > Have you explored who the people were that the boys were boarding > with in 1910? I didn't look up Jesse but I saw that Fred, age 19, > was boarding in the village of Canastota in town of Lenox, with an > older widowed woman and her middle-aged daughter, who was > single. Fred was a packer at a furniture factory. Perhaps these > woman are actually extended family members. > > I hope one of these ideas will give you a direction for further > research, although I realize that you may have done them already. > > Good luck. > Tink > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Joan, It looks like you are building a strong case for presumption of this Frances and her boys in the obit to be the correct family. Sometimes the absence of any other records, as documented by your research records ruling them out, is sufficient to establish the highest probability that these are the correct family members. I know it isn't as satisfying as absolute proof. I can see you've been very thorough in your search, however a couple thoughts crossed my mind that you didn't mention trying. If the funeral home still exists that handled Frances' burial, contact them and see if they have any records that they would copy for you. You may find some new clues to renew your search. Or perhaps the cemetery has some records. Was there a marriage license issued when she married Edward Dibble, or a church record made? It might list her maiden name. Regarding the 1900 census, if you are relying on Ancestry's transcriptions, the surname may have been transcribed incorrectly. I find errors like that on Ancestry constantly. I always submit corrections for them. Since the boys are in Madison Co. in 1910, and if you haven't already done so, you might just read every page of the 1900 census for Madison County and see if you can find the family. Is it Dibble in 1900? When did Frances and Edward marry? You don't mention Frances' date ranges for birth and death. Might she ever have had a drivers license? Did she have a will or any estate that would have been probated? Have you explored who the people were that the boys were boarding with in 1910? I didn't look up Jesse but I saw that Fred, age 19, was boarding in the village of Canastota in town of Lenox, with an older widowed woman and her middle-aged daughter, who was single. Fred was a packer at a furniture factory. Perhaps these woman are actually extended family members. I hope one of these ideas will give you a direction for further research, although I realize that you may have done them already. Good luck. Tink At 06:39 PM 6/28/10, you wrote: >Dick, > >Many thanks. I've turned fultonhistory, the census, ancestry >records and newspapers, and everything else inside out. Her name >was Isabell Fyvie and as you have in 1920, she was the wife of Jesse. > >I have an obit for a Fidell who died in 1894. leaving a wife and two >young children, none named. I can't seem to find any of the >(Fidell) survivors in 1900, but by 1910 I found Fred and Jesse in >Lenox. The ages are good for them to have been young children of >someone who died in 1894. Then I found an obit for Frances Dibble, >with sons Fred and Jesse Fidell. I have a strong feeling, but can't >prove that she was the wife and they were the children. I can't >find any other Fidells who would fit the scenario, but that doesn't >mean that somebody didn't adopt them and change their name, in which >case I'll never find them. > >I appreciate your help. >Cheers, >Joan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rich Hill > To: nymadiso@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Fidell family > > > >From an obit in the Utica Observer Dispatch, Sat. July 3, 1971 > Mrs. Isabell FIDELL. 78 of 219 east Railroad Street, Oneida, a retired > domestic, died Friday [so July 2] in City of Oneida Hospital. born in > Canastotoa d/o James & Margaret [REMORA/RAMONE? FYVLIE? unreadable]. First > Methodist Episcopal ch. > 3 sons: > Frederick of California > Roger of Indianapolis > Jess FIDELL Jr. of Oneida > 1 dau Mrs. Joseph [Marion] PERRETTA of Canastota. > (fultonhistory.com) > > > Then from 1920 census ED 125, Sheet 9A, > FIDELL Jessie head owns mortgage age 32 b. NY finisher silver > ware factory > Isabell age 28 > Frederick 10 > Rodger 7 > Wannettabell 5 > Marion 3 > Carlton 2mos. [is this Jesse Jr.?] > (ancestry.com) > > That should get you started. > > Dick Hillenbrand > Upstate New York Genealogy > www.UNYG.com/ > www.UNYG.com/blog/ > > Another genealogy research tool: > www.GenealogyDNA.com > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Chas, So far I haven't identified this person, but I am still compiling info. Thank you for your reply. Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: cepage1 To: nymadiso@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Fidell family Joan, This doesn't answer your questions, but just to throw this in---A Marion Fidell attended the old Elizabeth St. elementery school when I did. From first grade to sixth. This would be about 1926 - 1932. That's the extent of my nickle's worth. Chas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joan Rebholz" <jurebholz@comcast.net> To: <NYMADISO@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 7:42 PM Subject: [NYMADISO] Fidell family > I'm researching some Fidell family members from Madison County. In > particular, I'd like to identify the parents of brothers Jesse (1887 - > 1967) and Fred (1891 - 1988) Fidell. Their mother's name was Frances and > she eventually married Edward Dibble. Does anybody know the father's name > or the mother's maiden name? > Many thanks > Joan R. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYMADISO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message