..food for thought....Scrooge's mother died when he was born, if I remember correctly,and his father sent him off to boarding school at a young age and was cold towards him, and his fiance decided she did not want a workaholic for a husband. So he immersed himself in work and money, like many Americans do today. People nowadays don't think about that. Just food for thought. Loo ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Stowell Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 8:06 PM To: NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] apology At 12:31 PM 12/6/04 -0500, you wrote: >Tim wrote: >>As apologies do the soul good, I'm offering one to Dan W. for it seems to >>me in retrospect that my note of 11/30 smack of one-upmanship - and that >>won't do. My apologies Dan - thank you for the good work you do in >>furthering Madison >>County research. Tim > >I was the one who teased with the brag about being a few pages ahead of >you, and no one need apologize for getting things accomplished!. Any extra >or unused cash that you may have laying around can be sent my way, though! > > Dan W. Well if I was independently wealthy..... My riches are not measured in dollars but in other terms some of which were expressed in the just past season but continuing in this season as well. I believe I can sincerely say that the spirit of Scrooge is not present on this list but rather the spirit of Christmas is present throughout the year. Tim ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== Search the list archives: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for the name of the list

Have you checked out the Merrillsville Brevities on the Madison Co. site? Just tonight, I was looking at it and noticed an item speaking about a "Mr. and Mrs. IRONS of St. Paul, Minnesota" visiting some relatives. Donna Burdick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty" <k2mi@frontiernet.net> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 5:55 AM Subject: [NYMADISO] Anyone researching IRONS of central New York? > > Happy holidays to all. > > I would like to contact anyone researching IRONS, especially > in Otsego, Oneida, Madison and Onondaga counties of New York. > > Marty Irons > k2mi@frontiernet.net > > All e-mail scanned by Norton 2005 anti-virus, updated online daily. > > May all your ancestors YELL at you, > telling you how and where to find them. > > PS: John F Irons (1811 - 1854 Cazenovia NY)...... > please stand up on that brick wall and yell out > the names I've sought for 11 years......louder! > Who were your parents? Where were you born? > Who were your siblings? > > > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe from this list - send email to - > nymadiso-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word - unsubscribe in the body of the email. If you are subscribed in Digest mode use the same address but change the -L- to -D-. >

TOPIC #1 Just wanted to say that I agree about ages in the census. I've always wondered if people did know their actual ages! Here's a primary source that is not perfect. TOPIC #2 Regarding the Pioneers of Madison Co. book, you definitely do have to be careful with the entries in that book. It is a guide only and you have to check and recheck other sources, as someone else said. To connect these 2 topics, "Pioneers" is a secondary source that is not perfect. To me, working on genealogy is like solving a crime - the preponderance of evidence and that kind of stuff!

Happy holidays to all. I would like to contact anyone researching IRONS, especially in Otsego, Oneida, Madison and Onondaga counties of New York. Marty Irons k2mi@frontiernet.net All e-mail scanned by Norton 2005 anti-virus, updated online daily. May all your ancestors YELL at you, telling you how and where to find them. PS: John F Irons (1811 - 1854 Cazenovia NY)...... please stand up on that brick wall and yell out the names I've sought for 11 years......louder! Who were your parents? Where were you born? Who were your siblings?

Hi Nana Yes... Madison County folks are pretty neat. Personally, this has to be one of the most sincere and helpful groups of researchers I have been acquainted with. Lots of times, somebody out there has an answer, does an uninvited lookup (with good results), or can point someone in the right direction. Over the year or so that I have been acquainted, I have gained some very nice friendships and hope to see some of them when I "come home" early next summer. John B. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

so funny Elaine- LOL- easy to say when single- but sometimes the hubby needs to put the name tag on me - funny- ----- Original Message ----- From: <ElaineDecker@cs.com> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] If Mamma's not happy, no one is > In a message dated 12/15/04 9:05:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, lpmj@juno.com > writes: > > << I second that. But will also add that it's a two way street. We need to > keep our husband's happy as well, by honoring them and loving them in > both sickness and in health till >> > > Sure am glad I am single. > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search the list archives: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for > the name of the list > >

Hi Nana Glad to help you. My husband is doing fairly well, but we are still recovering and repairing Hurricane Damage. I might be heading North to Lewis County again as my brother is not doing well. Just remember I will check anything on SDB that I can, but it does take me time as I do not have much time lately and I am doing 3 Genealogy Lectures in January. So I do have to get them together. But always willing to help an SDB Researcher in the Brookfield Area. . Regards Pat

Hello In 1797 William Franklin was a member of the First Brookfield Church in Leonardsville, Madison Co NY. Also a member in 1797 was Sarah Franklin. In 1823 William Franklin was a member of the 2nd Brookfield Church in Brookfield NY and that church is still in existence. It is possible that there is a connection to your Franklin that married Miller here. I would write to the SDB Archives in Janesville WI and see if they have a marriage in their Brookfield Church Records for your Franklin/Miller Connection. Seventh-Day Baptist Archives. PO Box 1678. 3120 North Kennedy Road. Janesville , WI 53547. Regards Pat R

I have been subscribed to this list off and on. Tonight I came to the site again for Madison county usgenweb with a new name. Harriet Franklin who married ? Saunders. Tom, what wonderful news for me when I spotted a bio of the very person I was looking for. This is a great place to research and the list always is more than helpful. Thank you all,. Nana Redell

Pat,Thank you. You have helped me before. How is your husband doing? Nana ----- Original Message ----- From: <PNUTREG@cs.com> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Betsey Miller b 1787 in NY > Hello > > In 1797 William Franklin was a member of the First Brookfield Church in > Leonardsville, Madison Co NY. Also a member in 1797 was Sarah Franklin. > In 1823 > William Franklin was a member of the 2nd Brookfield Church in Brookfield > NY and > that church is still in existence. > > It is possible that there is a connection to your Franklin that married > Miller here. I would write to the SDB Archives in Janesville WI and see > if they > have a marriage in their Brookfield Church Records for your > Franklin/Miller > Connection. > > Seventh-Day Baptist Archives. PO Box 1678. 3120 North Kennedy Road. > Janesville > , > WI 53547. > > Regards > Pat R > > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > To post to this list - send email from the address you subsribed to the > list with to this address - NYMadiso-L@rootsweb.com > >

Betsey MILLER was born 1787 in NY. She married John Franklin November 2, 1814 in Brookfield, Madison , NY I am hoping someone is researching MILLER and has this connection. I have plenty of FRANKLIN information to share. After the marriage they couple came to Allegany County NY with other family members.Betsey and John were the parents of 11 children. Thank you, Nana (NAY-na) RUTHERFORD Redell

In a message dated 12/15/04 9:05:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, lpmj@juno.com writes: << I second that. But will also add that it's a two way street. We need to keep our husband's happy as well, by honoring them and loving them in both sickness and in health till >> Sure am glad I am single.

I second that. But will also add that it's a two way street. We need to keep our husband's happy as well, by honoring them and loving them in both sickness and in health till one of us croaks. At least that is what I agreed to in my marriage vows. Joan in Candor, NY and wife to Larry, mother to Ami and Jim and Saucci the dog

Have my kids & husband memorize it. Then put it on my gravestone! >Simple maxim - if Momma's happy, I'm happy. If Momma's not happy, no one is. > Terri Rene wife to Brian, mother to Michael & Matthew

Thanks Tim for all your good work. Jean Glave

At 07:07 PM 12/14/04 -0500, Bill Moon wrote: > >>Simple maxim - if Momma's happy, I'm happy. If Momma's not happy, no one is. > >TIM, >Well put. Seems you are a LOT smarter than some others. I too have learned the same. After 31 yrs of marriage, one tends to learn a lot. It's a two way street, and it takes two to tango.... as well as a lot of give and take. > >Have a great happy holiday season, and stay warm. BTW, low in the morning 20... > > >Bill Moon >www.moongenealogy.org I laugh at your 20 and lower you to 7. That's what the temp was at my m-i-l's town a day or so ago. She lives on the prairies near where the Dakotas and Minnesota meet and where I hope to be Christmas day. The bad thing is no snow as of yet. :( I so look forward to visiting there and going out with cross country skis as we walk / ski down the middle of the river after Christmas dinner. I hope at least that the river is frozen nicely. Glad to see you back online for your site disappeared last month (because I had a couple of broken links). Tim

There's nothing like humble pie. A slice or two of it every so often keeps one in perspective. Previously I reported the addition to Chenango County of: Fairview Cemetery - Town of New Berlin - New Berlin Riverside Cemetery - Town of New Berlin - South New Berlin http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychenan/cemetery.htm =================================================== To my surprise / dismay? I found out that what was reported as Fairview Cemetery was in fact Greenwood Cemetery, located in the northern end of the Village of New Berlin. Fairview is more centrally located and is situated beside St. Andrews Cemetery. There is a listing of Fairview (really) in the works. While there is a listing of Greenwood on-line already, I believe that it was from a DAR listing a number of years ago. This new list is from village records. ==================================================== Additionally, this morning I've uploaded several more pages of the Sherburne Centennial booklet - bringing the on-line total to 61 pages of the 111 page total. This new section entitled Historical address is chock full of names giving many family names origins to this and other areas. It along with the beginning of the book provide a lot more depth than any other work previously added to the site for the Sherburne area. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychenan/shr100t.htm From what I've seen of the remainder of the booklet, it too is chock full of history and names. While I doubt I'll get the remainder on this year, I do hope to get another section or two done. ===================================================== As for Cortland and Madison counties I plan to continue in 2005 providing more records, book accounts of the history and peoples of those regions. I have at hand many contributions from many a fine visitor, which I am working through. Additionally in 2005 I will be working to develop a site for a couple of more central New York counties based on requests to do so by visitors to these three sites. While I have much on my plate, I do enjoy the variety so much as I offer comment, lend a hand to others as they seek their family history. Thank you all for that privilege. Tim Stowell tstowell@chattanooga.net Chattanooga, TN

You guys are way to funny- maybe I should try the name tag thingy- LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: "indi opie" <indianopening@yahoo.com> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] 1860 Census question again > Mine pins a note to my shirt with my name on it. > > > than my age (besides it changes all the time!). My > > wife keeps track of my > > age for me! > > > > Dan W. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search the list archives: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for > the name of the list > >

>Simple maxim - if Momma's happy, I'm happy. If Momma's not happy, no one is. TIM, Well put. Seems you are a LOT smarter than some others. I too have learned the same. After 31 yrs of marriage, one tends to learn a lot. It's a two way street, and it takes two to tango.... as well as a lot of give and take. Have a great happy holiday season, and stay warm. BTW, low in the morning 20... Bill Moon www.moongenealogy.org --- On Tue 12/14, Tim Stowell < tstowell@chattanooga.net > wrote: From: Tim Stowell [mailto: tstowell@chattanooga.net] To: NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 00:20:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] apology At 03:01 AM 12/13/04 EST, you wrote:<br>>In a message dated 12/12/04 10:02:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, <br>>tstowell@chattanooga.net writes:<br>><br>><< My riches are not measured in dollars but in other terms some of which<br>were<br>> expressed >><br>><br>>Tim, If you hadn't chopped down all those beautiful trees around your house <br>>and stuck up that ugly addition you might be rich!<br><br>Perhaps. Had I not, I might be single today. I'd rather not be, I've<br>become comfortable being married. :)<br><br>Simple maxim - if Momma's happy, I'm happy. If Momma's not happy, no one is.<br><br>Tim<br><br><br>==== NYMADISO Mailing List ====<br>Search the list archives:<br>http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for<br>the name of the list<br><br> _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com

St. Mary's is the Catholic Church in Hamilton. Maybe they would have a burial record if the family was Catholic. Their phone # is 315-824-2164 and they have an e-mail address listed on their home page: stmarys@usadatanet.net . Hope this helps. Pat Stone, Rochester, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "mkmullen" <mkmullen@ticon.net> > Hi Listers, > I just received 2 death certificates from NY. Margaret Leonard > O'Melia and her husband Michael O'Melia were buried in Hamilton. > Margaret in 1894 and Michael in 1901. I am quite sure that these people > were Catholic. They were living in West Eaton when they died. Can > anyone advise me as to how I can find their graves? > TIA, Mary Kay