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    1. Re: [NYMADISO] update 10/3/05
    2. Hi Tim I am looking for any information on the following people in Madison County NY. Could you tell me if there any information in the 10,000 vital records of central NY 1815-1850 by Bowman 2nd Wife of Gideon Simmons: . +Ruth Stoddard, m: 9 Apr 1797 in Little Compton RI Father: Benjamin Stoddard Mother: Phoebe Brownell **(Gideon and Ruth are buried in the Madison Center cemetery.) Looking to verify that Brownell is the son of Gideon and Ruth Simmons ....... 2  Brownell S Simmons b: 20 Aug 1798 in Madison Co. NY d: 10 Sep 1888 in Nelson Twp Kent, MI .......... +Anna Tripp b: 1800, death certificate says born in RI m: 18 Nov 1817 in Madison, Madison, NY d: 16 Sep 1888 in Grand Rapids, Kent, MI Father: Richard Tripp Mother: Hannah (Tripp) ( ? ) ................ 3  Ruth S. Simmons b: 15 Sep 1818 in Madison Co NY Ruth may have died young or married, this is all I have ................ 3  Hannah A. Simmons b: 18 Sep 1822 in Madison Co NY d: 28 Mar 1896 in Cedar Springs, Kent, MI looking to verify this marriage to ................... +William H Tompkins b: 23 Jun 1820 m: 16 Feb 1844 in Hamilton, Madison, NY d: 12 Jul 1876 Looking to verify these birth and death dates ................ 3  Benjamin F. Simmons b: 17 Dec 1824 in Madison Co NY d: 20 Feb 1826 ................ 3  Benjamin E Simmons b: 10 Jun 1827 in Madison Co NY d: 28 Oct 1827 Thanks you Roger Barber

    10/04/2005 02:49:38
    1. Re: [NYMADISO] In Praise of William Tuttle
    2. Patty
    3. On 9/30/05, Donna Burdick <dburdick@stny.rr.com> wrote: > Hi everybody. > > Recently, my friend Doris posted some info. from Pioneers of Madison Co., by William Tuttle. Over the years, I've heard some professional-type genealogists complain about Tuttle, saying mainly that he didn't cite his sources. That's true and he often made spelling errors, especially in names, such as Cable for Caleb and adding an "e" on Benjamin. But I'd like to tell you how he just helped me. > > I had an article from an 1854 newspaper talking about someone visiting at Clarkville, within six miles of Peterboro. I knew Clarkville was an earlier name for Brookfield which is sure more than six miles from Peterboro. Then I realized that the person was staying with N. S. Cady. I went to Tuttle and found lots of info. on Nathan Stanton Cady of CLOCKVILLE. Should have realized it was Clockville! > > Guess what I'm saying is Madison Co. is lucky to have the Tuttle book. At least it's a starting point. > > Donna B. Donna, Is this book still available? Where can I purchase it. The historian in Munnsville didn't have a copy for sale. Patty

    10/04/2005 05:44:40
    1. Re: [NYMADISO] Ward--Brother's Keeper
    2. Patty
    3. On 9/29/05, dorothy baker <dedor7020@yahoo.com> wrote: > Charles, Jeff, and anyone else with a "Ward" connection. > > I have been reading your offerings for so long, and one of them finally turned on the proverbial lightbulb. Probably no cigar, but if you don't ask ----- > > My husband's g-g-g-grandparents were Harvey Baker b. 1775 in New Jersey. His wife was Hannah Ward born February 28, 1778 in New Jersey. All I know of Harvey is that he was reputed to be a farmer and cooper and of English ancestry. > > They moved from New Jersey to Fonda, N.Y. (Montgomery County/Herkimer area). > The Baker's also ended up in Madison County and in Cayuga County. I cannot track Harvey (wonder if that was really his first name) but have tracked all of his descendents. I know Hannah was in Cayuga County, Sennett in 1855--after that ???? > > Does Hannah show up anywhere in your archives? > > Thank you for any help. > > Dorothy Baker Hi Dorothy. Just got back from Munnsville. I have a Hannah, she was born April 19, 1822. It's so beautiful in Munnsville, I hated to leave. Patty

    10/04/2005 05:43:07
    1. Re: NYMADISO-D Digest V05 #170
    2. Shirley Becker
    3. Yep that is my gggrandfather and grandmother. The Roseltha ( actually Emily Roseltha) that you list married to James H Miller are my ggrandfather and mother. I have the Piersall line and am trying to get the Beebes. Eliza is my gggreat aunt so welcome cousin. Shirley From: Barbara <barb@hvc.rr.com> Date: October 3, 2005 6:33:16 PM PDT To: NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] Beebe Hi Shirley, Joan and I have discussed our Beebes a few times but haven't quite connected them to each other. However, I also have a BEEBE ancestor who married into the PIERSALL/PEARSALL line and can tell you about that line. Does this information sound like yours? John Piersall (son of Samuel Piersall) b. m. Emily _____(name not listed in book) 10 children: -Samuel -Edward -David -George -Roseltha -m. James Miller -Elizabeth -Ellen -Anna -Lavinia -Jane The Piersall/Pearsall line is a long one and if the above Roseltha is indeed your Emily Roseltha Piersall, then you can track your Piersall line WAAAAAYYYYY back. Let me know if this information sounds like what you are looking for. I have a thick three volume set on the Piersall/Pearsall line. If this is your family then your ggggrandmother would be my gggg aunt (if I have enough greats). John Piersall was the brother to my ancestor, Eliza Piersall (b 1829) who married David Beebe (b 1819). Hope this helps! Barb

    10/04/2005 04:01:48
    1. The Lake Erie Catastrophe
    2. I was just looking through the ProQuest Historical Newspapers and saw an article about the sinking of the steamer Atlantic. I noticed that there was an account of bravery on the part of "Mr. Isaac W. Snooks, of Lennox, Madison County", the article is very graphic in the description of the passengers as they tried to escape the sinking. (Do you suppose that is where Baby Snooks came from?) It was in the New York Daily Times, August 26, 1852 and was entitled "The Lake Erie Catastrophe" if you plan to look it up. It certainly points up how dangerous the steamers were at that time. Carol Boggs

    10/03/2005 04:51:20
    1. Fw: [NYMADISO] 1855 NY Census
    2. Roger Newman
    3. Thanks to everyone who answered my question. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Stowell" <tstowell@chattanooga.net> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] 1855 NY Census | At 04:01 PM 10/1/05 -0700, you wrote: | >Is there an index to the 1855 index? | | I only have connections to Cazenovia, Nelson and Fenner from Dan's old site: | | http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enyccazen/Census/ | | Tim | | | | ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== | To post to this list - send email from the address you subsribed to the list with to this address - NYMadiso-L@rootsweb.com | |

    10/03/2005 03:40:15
    1. Re: [NYMADISO] Beebe
    2. Barbara
    3. Hi Shirley, Joan and I have discussed our Beebes a few times but haven't quite connected them to each other. However, I also have a BEEBE ancestor who married into the PIERSALL/PEARSALL line and can tell you about that line. Does this information sound like yours? John Piersall (son of Samuel Piersall) b. m. Emily _____(name not listed in book) 10 children: -Samuel -Edward -David -George -Roseltha -m. James Miller -Elizabeth -Ellen -Anna -Lavinia -Jane The Piersall/Pearsall line is a long one and if the above Roseltha is indeed your Emily Roseltha Piersall, then you can track your Piersall line WAAAAAYYYYY back. Let me know if this information sounds like what you are looking for. I have a thick three volume set on the Piersall/Pearsall line. If this is your family then your ggggrandmother would be my gggg aunt (if I have enough greats). John Piersall was the brother to my ancestor, Eliza Piersall (b 1829) who married David Beebe (b 1819). Hope this helps! Barb

    10/03/2005 03:33:16
    1. Beebe
    2. Shirley Becker
    3. I saw the name Beebe in Joan Meddaugh's email and my interest was piqued. My ggggrandmother was Emily Beebe b abt 1825. she married John Piersall or Pearsall and they had a daughter named Emily Roseltha Piersall. They lived in Constantia, Oswego Co., in 1880. Do you have any Emily's in your Beebes? From: Joan Meddaugh <lpmj@juno.com> Date: September 30, 2005 5:39:01 PM PDT To: NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: William H. Tuttle Hi everybody, I also would like to make a remark about William H. Tuttle and the book Pioneers of Madison Co. From what I can tell, he has done a pretty so so job. But in the case of my 5th & 6th great grandfathers Zadoc Beebe I and II he managed to get some dates confused. I will quote" Zadoc Sr. Settled in Brookfield, NY in 1894 and died in 1825. Now if someone can explain that mystery to me I would appreciate it. His son Zadoc Jr. who was age 94 when he died in 1866 which would make him born in 1772 would have had a hard time with that one don't you think? I also couldn't find anything on my great grandmother Ellen Amelia Hills, her husband Hiram J. Beebe his father Jusdson and his wife Susan Blanding Beebe. These people would have been born from the late 1700's to the mid 1800's Hiram was born about 1847 his son Will my grandfather born 1869. Joan Beebe Meddaugh Candor, NY

    10/03/2005 08:12:32
    1. Loisa/Louisa NASH - 1855 census
    2. searching for data
    3. Can any lister identify this woman found in the 1855 Madison County Census for Cazenovia? Nash, Louisa, (Nash, Loisa), District #3, Dwelling #200.3, Family #227, Page 128, Line 27 (does not own dwelling), Age 28, Resident 2 Years, 2 in Household, Occupied as Tailoress. Was she related to the Sylvester Nash also listed therein? If so, how? Any information about her will be appreciated. Thanks. --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

    10/03/2005 01:52:50
    1. update 10/3/05
    2. Tim Stowell
    3. Since my last report of 9/6/05: Chenango County: First half of the book - Historical Sketches of New Berlin - http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychenan/nberlin.htm A few more bios from the 1898 biography book - http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychenan/1898bios.htm 8 more pages of the 1860 Bainbridge census: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychenan/census/1860/bainbridge/1860bnbr.htm ============================================================================ Cortland County: Death records as reported in Cortland Democrat for 1840-1845: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycortla/crtdvlle.htm OR http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/cortland/crtdvlle.htm more years of this in progress, about the same as already exist for marriages ============================================================================ Madison County: Offer to do lookups in: "Pioneers of Madison County" and "10,000 Vital Records of Central New York 1813-1850" by Bowman, which includes 833 records from the Chittenango Herald over the period 1831-1844 http://www.rootsweb.com/~nymadiso/lookups.htm Tim

    10/02/2005 06:35:32
    1. Re: [NYMADISO] WOODWORTH, found some too
    2. hi, i have the book called Pioneers of Madison county, new york, and there are at least 30 different ones listed, don't know if any belong to you, have a nice day. doris

    10/02/2005 08:05:51
    1. Re: [NYMADISO] 1855 NY Census
    2. Dick Hillenbrand
    3. > > > | At 04:01 PM 10/1/05 -0700, you wrote: > | >Is there an index to the 1855 index? > | > > The Onondaga County Public Library in Syracuse, and no doubt other places, have the card file index on microfilm of the 1855 census for Madison County. If you can not get there I would check with the State Library or LDS to see if you can borrow the film if they have it. It would be a great project for someone to transcribe and put on the internet. -- Best regards. Dick Hillenbrand Please visit and bookmark my webpage for Upstate New York genealogical research. www.ny-genes.com <http://www.ny-genes.com> P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=5841tni

    10/02/2005 04:05:25
    1. WOODWORTH
    2. nredell
    3. I have WOODWORTH Rev. Charles A. and Mary WOODWORTH, the parents of Sarah Baker WOODWORTH who married Walter Norton RENWICK. He was located in Belmont, Allegany County. Sarah and Walter were married 1898. I don't have anything more about Woodworth, but thought it might be a connection to yours. Thank you, Nana Redell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Newman" <rhnewman@hctc.com> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] 1855 NY Census > Thanks, looking for Woodworth in probably Fenner. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Stowell" <tstowell@chattanooga.net> > To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:26 PM > Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] 1855 NY Census > > > | At 04:01 PM 10/1/05 -0700, you wrote: > | >Is there an index to the 1855 index? > | > | I only have connections to Cazenovia, Nelson and Fenner from Dan's old > site: > | > | http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enyccazen/Census/ > | > | Tim > | > | > | > | ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > | To post to this list - send email from the address you subsribed to the > list with to this address - NYMadiso-L@rootsweb.com > | > | > > > > ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== > Search the list archives: > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl - put NYMADISO for > the name of the list >

    10/02/2005 01:33:57
    1. Re: [NYMADISO] 1855 NY Census
    2. Tim Stowell
    3. At 04:01 PM 10/1/05 -0700, you wrote: >Is there an index to the 1855 index? I only have connections to Cazenovia, Nelson and Fenner from Dan's old site: http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enyccazen/Census/ Tim

    10/01/2005 06:26:10
    1. Re: [NYMADISO] 1855 NY Census
    2. Roger Newman
    3. Thanks, looking for Woodworth in probably Fenner. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Stowell" <tstowell@chattanooga.net> To: <NYMADISO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [NYMADISO] 1855 NY Census | At 04:01 PM 10/1/05 -0700, you wrote: | >Is there an index to the 1855 index? | | I only have connections to Cazenovia, Nelson and Fenner from Dan's old site: | | http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Enyccazen/Census/ | | Tim | | | | ==== NYMADISO Mailing List ==== | To post to this list - send email from the address you subsribed to the list with to this address - NYMadiso-L@rootsweb.com | |

    10/01/2005 05:10:51
    1. 1855 NY Census
    2. Roger Newman
    3. Is there an index to the 1855 index?

    10/01/2005 10:01:58
    1. Re: [NYMADISO] 1855 NY Census
    2. Tim Stowell
    3. At 07:24 AM 9/26/05 -0700, you wrote: >Does anyone have access to the 1855 NY census? If so, would mind doing >a lookup for the following: >Edward Talbot - Cazenovia >Betsy Talbot - Cazenovia, wife of Edward Only Talbot in Cazenovia in 1855 - Hiram Talbot with 7 in his household. Hiram was 52 and had lived in Madison county 50 years. In the 1868-69 directory for Cazenovia, Hiram again is the only Talbot in Cazenovia, a farmer of 75 acres. >James Reynolds - Lenox >Phebe Reynolds - Lenox, wife of James >I would like to know where each of the above was born and how long they >lived in Madison. > >Thanks a million. > >Karl MacEachron >Fresno CA Tim

    10/01/2005 09:13:46
    1. William H. Tuttle
    2. Joan Meddaugh
    3. Hi everybody, I also would like to make a remark about William H. Tuttle and the book Pioneers of Madison Co. From what I can tell, he has done a pretty so so job. But in the case of my 5th & 6th great grandfathers Zadoc Beebe I and II he managed to get some dates confused. I will quote" Zadoc Sr. Settled in Brookfield, NY in 1894 and died in 1825. Now if someone can explain that mystery to me I would appreciate it. His son Zadoc Jr. who was age 94 when he died in 1866 which would make him born in 1772 would have had a hard time with that one don't you think? I also couldn't find anything on my great grandmother Ellen Amelia Hills, her husband Hiram J. Beebe his father Jusdson and his wife Susan Blanding Beebe. These people would have been born from the late 1700's to the mid 1800's Hiram was born about 1847 his son Will my grandfather born 1869. Ellen was the daughter of Chloe Clarke Hills and James Hills of Brookfield, NY they had 5 daughters and none of them were mentioned either nor their husbands. Lucy was married to George White son of a Daniel White of Whitesmills not from Brookfield. Francie was married to Hank/Henry Spooner and had only one son Frank Spooner Sarah was married to a George Woodworth and had two children a boy and a girl. The girl died at age 7 during a out break of Diphtheria. Phoebe married 3 times, once to a Mr. Tuttle. He was murdered for his payroll. She was pregnant with her only child and lost it. Phoebe later married a George K. Knapp a widower with two children George and Frances. George died in 1910 She later married James Fordyance Hickox he died before her and she died shortly in the poor house. Ellen Amelia Hills married Hiram J. Beebe son of Judson L. And Susan Blanding Beebe both of Brookfield. Can't find any thing on them either. Joan Beebe Meddaugh Candor, NY

    09/30/2005 02:39:01
    1. In Praise of William Tuttle
    2. Donna Burdick
    3. Hi everybody. Recently, my friend Doris posted some info. from Pioneers of Madison Co., by William Tuttle. Over the years, I've heard some professional-type genealogists complain about Tuttle, saying mainly that he didn't cite his sources. That's true and he often made spelling errors, especially in names, such as Cable for Caleb and adding an "e" on Benjamin. But I'd like to tell you how he just helped me. I had an article from an 1854 newspaper talking about someone visiting at Clarkville, within six miles of Peterboro. I knew Clarkville was an earlier name for Brookfield which is sure more than six miles from Peterboro. Then I realized that the person was staying with N. S. Cady. I went to Tuttle and found lots of info. on Nathan Stanton Cady of CLOCKVILLE. Should have realized it was Clockville! Guess what I'm saying is Madison Co. is lucky to have the Tuttle book. At least it's a starting point. Donna B.

    09/30/2005 01:53:05
    1. Re: [NYMADISO] Ward--Brother's Keeper
    2. dorothy baker
    3. Thank you for your time Charles. I appreciate it. Dorothy Baker

    09/30/2005 10:57:03